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| artiel |
Why CBS Fired Dan Rather For His Piece On Bush: "I don't want to denigrate Kerry," said the CEO "but from a Viacom standpoint, the election of a Republican administration is a better deal. Because the Republican administration has stood for many things we believe in, deregulation and so on." (salon.com)
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| Reverend Tyler |
| The idea that the media is liberally biased is a giant myth not at all based in fact |
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| curleydan |
| liberals tend to not see the bias in the media because to them its not a bias. its the same reason they cannot stand fnc because there is a total lack of liberal bias. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
liberals tend to not see the bias in the media because to them its not a bias. its the same reason they cannot stand fnc because there is a total lack of liberal bias. |
Have you ever noticed that the Sunday round-table shows are ALWAYS dominated by the right wing? ALWAYS |
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| curleydan |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Have you ever noticed that the Sunday round-table shows are ALWAYS dominated by the right wing? ALWAYS |
other than george will and the republican guest of the day i cant think of too many right wings on sunday mornings. |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
liberals tend to not see the bias in the media because to them its not a bias. its the same reason they cannot stand fnc because there is a total lack of liberal bias. |
Did you even read the quote from CBS I posted above? How would that possibly indicate a "liberal bias"? (ugh, I am so tired of having to defend something so obvious) |
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| curleydan |
Quote: Originally posted by artiel
Did you even read the quote from CBS I posted above? How would that possibly indicate a "liberal bias"? (ugh, I am so tired of having to defend something so obvious) |
i did read the quote. from a business standpoint the company, viacom, supports the republican business ideals more so than the democrats. that in no way translates into what the news reporters are going to say and do. if what you were saying was true you would hate cbs as much as you hate fnc. |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
i did read the quote. from a business standpoint the company, viacom, supports the republican business ideals more so than the democrats. that in no way translates into what the news reporters are going to say and do. if what you were saying was true you would hate cbs as much as you hate fnc. |
Who said I don't despise all the misinformation networks equally? Fox News is the same as all the other news agencies, except it is just more sensational. They push their agenda through "infotainment" and fear, just like all the others. It isn't conservatism that I hate, far from it. I hate the concealed pushing of a sinister agenda, which all the networks do in spades. They are all just talking heads for the government, when they are supposed to be part of the checking and balancing of the government. People have come to expect bias in their news. I understand the argument against the equal time doctrine, but I believe that to not have it has resulted in a severe invalidation of the information provided in the media. |
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| curleydan |
Quote: Originally posted by artiel
Who said I don't despise all the misinformation networks equally? Fox News is the same as all the other news agencies, except it is just more sensational. They push their agenda through "infotainment" and fear, just like all the others. It isn't conservatism that I hate, far from it. I hate the concealed pushing of a sinister agenda, which all the networks do in spades. They are all just talking heads for the government, when they are supposed to be part of the checking and balancing of the government. People have come to expect bias in their news. I understand the argument against the equal time doctrine, but I believe that to not have it has resulted in a severe invalidation of the information provided in the media. |
well i solidly disagree with you in regards to the equal time doctrine. if you dont like what someone is saying on the radio or tv, dont tune in. the equal time doctrine is the governments way of telling broadcasters what they can broadcast and the very idea of that makes me sick. i dont see how imposing the governments will on broadcasters will in any way improve the quality of information passed on to the general public. at its worst, it could seriously erode the freedom of the press and at best just work to calm down some of the talk radio hosts, which is not worth the potential disaster imho. i will agree with you that the major media outlets all have an agenda that they are trying to impose on the public, its just that the vast majority of those outlets are pushing a liberal agenda. for people that consider themselves liberal, they wont see that as a bias, because to them its not biased. however, when fnc is pushing an agenda that is not liberally slanted it seems stunningly rightwinged because so much of the rest of the news is left leaning. im not saying fnc is neutral, they are obviously more right than left, but follow me on this. if all your news was from left leaning sources and you watched a news broadcast for a few days that was actually very neutral, they would seem right wing because they dont lean to the left. its all a matter of perspective. i dont fear the liberal media and i dont think they are the cause of our demise, but i also think its silly to say that the vast majority is not liberally biased. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
liberals tend to not see the bias in the media because to them its not a bias. its the same reason they cannot stand fnc because there is a total lack of liberal bias. |
:rolleyes: |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
i did read the quote. from a business standpoint the company, viacom, supports the republican business ideals more so than the democrats. that in no way translates into what the news reporters are going to say and do. if what you were saying was true you would hate cbs as much as you hate fnc. |
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
well i solidly disagree with you in regards to the equal time doctrine. if you dont like what someone is saying on the radio or tv, dont tune in. the equal time doctrine is the governments way of telling broadcasters what they can broadcast and the very idea of that makes me sick. i dont see how imposing the governments will on broadcasters will in any way improve the quality of information passed on to the general public. at its worst, it could seriously erode the freedom of the press and at best just work to calm down some of the talk radio hosts, which is not worth the potential disaster imho. i will agree with you that the major media outlets all have an agenda that they are trying to impose on the public, its just that the vast majority of those outlets are pushing a liberal agenda. for people that consider themselves liberal, they wont see that as a bias, because to them its not biased. however, when fnc is pushing an agenda that is not liberally slanted it seems stunningly rightwinged because so much of the rest of the news is left leaning. im not saying fnc is neutral, they are obviously more right than left, but follow me on this. if all your news was from left leaning sources and you watched a news broadcast for a few days that was actually very neutral, they would seem right wing because they dont lean to the left. its all a matter of perspective. i dont fear the liberal media and i dont think they are the cause of our demise, but i also think its silly to say that the vast majority is not liberally biased. |
Facts, Truth, and Reality have a "liberal bias"...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
well i solidly disagree with you in regards to the equal time doctrine. if you dont like what someone is saying on the radio or tv, dont tune in. the equal time doctrine is the governments way of telling broadcasters what they can broadcast and the very idea of that makes me sick. i dont see how imposing the governments will on broadcasters will in any way improve the quality of information passed on to the general public. at its worst, it could seriously erode the freedom of the press and at best just work to calm down some of the talk radio hosts, which is not worth the potential disaster imho. i will agree with you that the major media outlets all have an agenda that they are trying to impose on the public, its just that the vast majority of those outlets are pushing a liberal agenda. for people that consider themselves liberal, they wont see that as a bias, because to them its not biased. however, when fnc is pushing an agenda that is not liberally slanted it seems stunningly rightwinged because so much of the rest of the news is left leaning. im not saying fnc is neutral, they are obviously more right than left, but follow me on this. if all your news was from left leaning sources and you watched a news broadcast for a few days that was actually very neutral, they would seem right wing because they dont lean to the left. its all a matter of perspective. i dont fear the liberal media and i dont think they are the cause of our demise, but i also think its silly to say that the vast majority is not liberally biased. |
I understand what you're saying, and liberalism/conservatism of the media is unfortunately an issue that is not easily quantifiable so as to study in any definitive way. And I also understand what you are saying about equal time, because I wouldn't want to quell what someone is trying to say. In fact, in theory the removal of equal time seems like a very good idea to me, but unfortunately in practice it seems to have eroded any real and legitimate debate for in-depth issues that deserve to be addressed. |
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| curleydan |
Quote: Originally posted by artiel
I understand what you're saying, and liberalism/conservatism of the media is unfortunately an issue that is not easily quantifiable so as to study in any definitive way. And I also understand what you are saying about equal time, because I wouldn't want to quell what someone is trying to say. In fact, in theory the removal of equal time seems like a very good idea to me, but unfortunately in practice it seems to have eroded any real and legitimate debate for in-depth issues that deserve to be addressed. |
i think was eroded was most americans desire to debate those issues. there are very few people on tv or radio that are moderate. for the time being, thats what america wants. i would rather have discussion and debate on issues, but thats not what selling advertising these days. |
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| Jackie's Career |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
The idea that the media is liberally biased is a giant myth not at all based in fact |
Is that what Kieth Olbermann told you? |
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