| zimmie |
Poor poor confused, disenfranchised persons.....most usually have no spiritual live.....
Don't like Guliani, Clinton, Romney, Obama, Thompson, Edwards, poor fuckers are chasing their tails pipe dreaming about Ron Paul (who if they recognized his views beyong Iraq would hate his views), must suck to be living as a fringe element in American society..... |
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| Rike |
| I think they love to lose and walk around feeling victimized. They have much to look forward to in 2008. |
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| zimmie |
| Forget 2008, time to move on to 2012............lmao |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Forget 2008, time to move on to 2012............lmao |
Do you really think any of the Bush chapter 3 republicans have a snowballs chance in hell in 08 ?
Your a fucking idiot...unless the clown starts a war with Iran, then you 26% can visit the recruiting office. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
There are very few liberals on this board that support Ron Paul...I certainly wouldnt call Moster-Zero or Luther liberals in any way whatsoever.
And I am a very big supporter of Barack Obama...not as a lesser of two evils, but as the best possible candidate |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
There are very few liberals on this board that support Ron Paul...I certainly wouldnt call Moster-Zero or Luther liberals in any way whatsoever.
And I am a very big supporter of Barack Obama...not as a lesser of two evils, but as the best possible candidate |
I hope you get your wish |
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| curleydan |
| wow, i cant believe you guys let zimmie draw you offsides like that. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Poor poor confused, disenfranchised persons.....most usually have no spiritual live.....
Don't like Guliani, Clinton, Romney, Obama, Thompson, Edwards, poor fuckers are chasing their tails pipe dreaming about Ron Paul (who if they recognized his views beyong Iraq would hate his views), must suck to be living as a fringe element in American society..... |
The people who like Ron Paul are not "libs", you fucking twat, they are libertarians and REAL conservatives.... Not fake conservative nazis like you and your male cheerleader hero/ fake cowboy. |
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| zimmie |
| so what are you guys gonna do on election day....you see what you have to choose from? |
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| Tomofnnh |
Every republican (except Ron Paul) vs. any democrat in 08 = Democratic win
Ron Paul vs. any democrat in 08 = republican win... well, a win for everyone :) |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Obama = will not be elected due to color
Hillary = will not be elected due to sex
I hope they have a few more in mind if they really want to help "us". |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Tomofnnh
Every republican (except Ron Paul) vs. any democrat in 08 = Democratic win
Ron Paul vs. any democrat in 08 = republican win... well, a win for everyone :) |
Beyond Paul's isolationism, which is very popular with the left, do you really think people would actually be willing to forfeit the entitlements they currently receive? |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
so what are you guys gonna do on election day....you see what you have to choose from? |
I will be voting for the Democratic nominee because even the evil Hillary is better than any member of the freak show presented as "candidates" from the Republican side.
So which of the Repuke candidates below will you be choosing, zimmie the retarded pinhead?
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
There are very few liberals on this board that support Ron Paul...I certainly wouldnt call Moster-Zero or Luther liberals in any way whatsoever.
And I am a very big supporter of Barack Obama...not as a lesser of two evils, but as the best possible candidate |
:rock: |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Poor poor confused, disenfranchised persons.....most usually have no spiritual live.....
Don't like Guliani, Clinton, Romney, Obama, Thompson, Edwards, poor fuckers are chasing their tails pipe dreaming about Ron Paul (who if they recognized his views beyong Iraq would hate his views), must suck to be living as a fringe element in American society..... |
Speaking as a Libertarian who has crossed lines to support Obama this year:
The best thing about being a Libertarian is knowing that we are the people who support the Constitution....unlike the current batch of war-mongering chicken-hawk republicunts who currently are holding the Executive Branch of government hostage. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Rike
I think they love to lose and walk around feeling victimized. They have much to look forward to in 2008. |
Look at the last two elections.
EVERYBODY lost!
By the way, the Libertarians are not the victims. All you poor, stupid fucktards who got duped into voting for Bush are the victims. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
Obama = will not be elected due to color
Hillary = will not be elected due to sex
I hope they have a few more in mind if they really want to help "us". |
Sex and race wouldn't be an issue if good people voted. Basically, the polls are filled with fringe-element neo-cons who think they're doing God's work by electing a President who is trying his best to start Armageddon. |
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| JTProcess |
I consider myself rather liberal and a supporter of Ron Paul. If he were to win the GOP nomination I would vote for him over any of the Dems.
That said, If Hillary wins the democratic nomination I would vote for Giuliani (or any other republican candidate) out of spite for the democratic party being a bunch of idiotic tools who just voted to continue Bush's failed policies anyway....
Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and all of them just authorized war with Iran by branding the Iranian Guard as a "terrorist organization" ... that give's heir bush full reign to do as he pleases.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM...-YkDhrHSOjBfhrA
Way to go Dems! Zimmie is right... this is a one party system. We officially live in a corporatocracy and someone like Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul is probably the only thing that can save us from our inevitable self destruction... Man I hope I'm wrong... but it's looking real bleak. |
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| Bronks Breasts |
| General Gerber Patton.. I am sure you are getting aroused waiting to vote for a guy who will be bombarded by the fact that the 9/11 rescue workers do not even support him. |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
I will be voting for the Democratic nominee because even the evil Hillary is better than any member of the freak show presented as "candidates" from the Republican side.
So which of the Repuke candidates below will you be choosing, zimmie the retarded pinhead?
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Congratulations AB the retaaad........out in front with Hilliary...your not deluding yourself into thinking one of the others has a chance anyway....I haven't decided yet myself....I think it's a tougher decision when you don't summarily dismiss all the Republicans..... |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by Bronks Breasts
General Gerber Patton.. I am sure you are getting aroused waiting to vote for a guy who will be bombarded by the fact that the 9/11 rescue workers do not even support him. |
Sorry BB, I won't base my decision on the opinions of a greedy, corrupt NYC union......but your welcome to. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Sex and race wouldn't be an issue if good people voted. Basically, the polls are filled with fringe-element neo-cons who think they're doing God's work by electing a President who is trying his best to start Armageddon. |
This is your problem....you throw out the word neo-con and that automatically makes me think you are one sided and vote for who the DNC picks. No one called them tree huggers or liberals. I was clearly making a point. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
I consider myself rather liberal and a supporter of Ron Paul. If he were to win the GOP nomination I would vote for him over any of the Dems.
That said, If Hillary wins the democratic nomination I would vote for Giuliani (or any other republican candidate) out of spite for the democratic party being a bunch of idiotic tools who just voted to continue Bush's failed policies anyway....
Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and all of them just authorized war with Iran by branding the Iranian Guard as a "terrorist organization" ... that give's heir bush full reign to do as he pleases.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM...-YkDhrHSOjBfhrA
Way to go Dems! Zimmie is right... this is a one party system. We officially live in a corporatocracy and someone like Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul is probably the only thing that can save us from our inevitable self destruction... Man I hope I'm wrong... but it's looking real bleak. |
They did not "authorize war" with Iran. It was a stupid vote on their part, but it is a non-binding resolution.
And I hope you are smarter than to actually cast your vote for an incompetent idiot like Guiliani, JT.... I understand your dislike of Hillary, I am certainly no fan of hers, but the WORST Dem is still better than the BEST Republican in this election. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Sorry BB, I won't base my decision on the opinions of a greedy, corrupt NYC union......but your welcome to. |
So you won't base your opinion of a GREEDY, CORRUPT, failure of a former NYC Mayor on the opinions of a greedy, corrupt NYC union?
LOL!!!
Is the union more corrupt than Guiliani? |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
If Hillary wins the democratic nomination I would vote for Giuliani (or any other republican candidate) |
Good man. |
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| artie84 |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
This is your problem....you throw out the word neo-con and that automatically makes me think you are one sided and vote for who the DNC picks. No one called them tree huggers or liberals. I was clearly making a point. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocon...ition_and_views |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
They did not "authorize war" with Iran . It was a stupid vote on their part, but it is a non-binding resolution.
And I hope you are smarter than to actually cast your vote for an incompetent idiot like Guiliani, JT.... I understand your dislike of Hillary, I am certainly no fan of hers, but the WORST Dem is still better than the BEST Republican in this election. |
doubletalk.....retaaad....when are you gonna come to grips with the doubletalk......
Hilliary
- won't admit she made a mistake voting for the war
- continues to support funding it
- won't commit to bringing home the troops by 2013
- yet tells every crowd she speaks before that she opposes the war.....
your on here hours upon hours everyday complaining about Iraq, yet your ready to support her?.......... |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
So you won't base your opinion of a GREEDY, CORRUPT, failure of a former NYC Mayor on the opinions of a greedy, corrupt NYC union?
LOL!!!
Is the union more corrupt than Guiliani? |
Well, the criticism coming from 9/11 rescue workers, for the most part, do not have a union...I could be wrong, but I've never heard of the "9/11 rescue worker union." Of course Rudy was out of office a few months after 9/11...so the idea that whatever that went wrong in the year after 9/11 is laughable.
That being said, go to youtube and check out the firefighters union video about Rudy. It's a pack of lies about radios that didn't work and such. Not to mention that said union supported John Kerry and Al Gore - conflict of interest??
Nevertheless, please explain how Rudy Giuliani was a "greedy, corrupt, failure" as mayor.
Please be specific. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
doubletalk.....retaaad....when are you gonna come to grips with the doubletalk......
Hilliary
- won't admit she made a mistake voting for the war
- continues to support funding it
- won't commit to bringing home the troops by 2013
- yet tells every crowd she speaks before that she opposes the war.....
your on here hours upon hours everyday complaining about Iraq, yet your ready to support her?.......... |
This brings up an interesting point.
To those here who have Iraq as their number one issue (getting out entirely, that is) - why would you vote for either Clinton, Edwards or Obama?
Why aren't people like Ass Boil stumping for Kucinich or Dodd or Richardson? They asserted that there would be a complete pullout. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
This is your problem....you throw out the word neo-con and that automatically makes me think you are one sided and vote for who the DNC picks. No one called them tree huggers or liberals. I was clearly making a point. |
Well, junior, I'm not even a Democrat. Actually, I'm a Libertarian who has jumped party lines this year to support Obama.
And, I too, was making a point but you got hung up on one word.
My point is that most potential voters don't care enough to vote. That leaves the polls filled with radicals. Some are right-wing radicals (like the ones in Office now) and others are left-wing radicals.
I drifted away from the Democratic Party several years ago because, for the most part, the party was getting overloaded with left-wing radicals.
The reason I attacked the "neo-cons" is because they, obviously, showed up in high enough numbers to elect a neo-con.
And, if you think Bush is anything but a neo-con, you need to take a good long look at the life you've wasted up to this point. |
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| zimmie |
| Share with us why Obama appeals to you? How is he different from all those mainstream candidates you don't like? |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Share with us why Obama appeals to you? How is he different from all those mainstream candidates you don't like? |
Obama is (so far) the only candidate who has not demonstrated a knee-jerk attitude when suggesting legislation. He speaks calmly and carefully. He understands that the war needs to be fought in Afghanistan and (depending on the circumstances) Pakistan. In other words: NOT in Iraq.
I'm not fond of his views on gun control but I refuse to be a single issue voter.
In another year, I don't know that I would get so strongly behind a candidate like Obama. But, when you line him up with all the other candidates (of either party), he seems to be the best of the bunch.
I could almost get behind Ron Paul but, frankly, his age scares me. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
| The US is not ready for a black president Republican or Democrat. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
The US is not ready for a black president Republican or Democrat. |
More accurately, racist rednecks in the US are not ready for a black President.
I'm not black, by the way. But, I am realistic and pragmatic enough to know that if we keep eliminating candidates based on race, we're screwing ourselves out of being able to draw from an immeasurably larger pool.
The first non-white President, however, will have to be careful about displaying reverse discrimination or he will make it harder for future candidates "of color" to be elected. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Rike
I think they love to lose and walk around feeling victimized. They have much to look forward to in 2008. |
And you do? BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Poor poor confused, disenfranchised persons.....most usually have no spiritual live.....
Don't like Guliani, Clinton, Romney, Obama, Thompson, Edwards, poor fuckers are chasing their tails pipe dreaming about Ron Paul (who if they recognized his views beyong Iraq would hate his views), must suck to be living as a fringe element in American society..... |
who you voting for, DOPE? |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Sorry BB, I won't base my decision on the opinions of a greedy, corrupt NYC union......but your welcome to. |
no you'll base it on LIES told by that fool guiliani.
or better yet, you'll base it on who the republinazi's TELL you to vote for.
SEIG HEIL! |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
no you'll base it on LIES told by that fool guiliani.
or better yet, you'll base it on who the republinazi's TELL you to vote for.
SEIG HEIL! |
I'll be voting for a Republican in the Presidential election. Who are you supporting Adolf? |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
I'll be voting for a Republican in the Presidential election. Who are you supporting Adolf? |
Shocking. Just like a good little sheep.
The only republican candidate who isn't nazi-like is Paul.
Unlike most of this backwards ass country, I am not afraid to vote for a black man. So if it's any of der furhrer's minion's and Obama, it will be Obama. if it's Paul-Obama, then I have a tougher decision to make. |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
I'll be voting for a Republican in the Presidential election. Who are you supporting Adolf? |
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| Thorswhore |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Speaking as a Libertarian who has crossed lines to support Obama this year:
The best thing about being a Libertarian is knowing that we are the people who support the Constitution....unlike the current batch of war-mongering chicken-hawk republicunts who currently are holding the Executive Branch of government hostage. |
half of your democrats voted on that 'back door to war with Iran' bill. |
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| salafibrigades |
| obama is a tool of the cfr. invade nuclear pakistan? good idea ya twit. |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Beyond Paul's isolationism, which is very popular with the left, do you really think people would actually be willing to forfeit the entitlements they currently receive? |
Well, considering that he plans to abolish the IRS, it seems that he is going to be removing GOVERNMENT entitlements to OUR money in order for them to send it to another country. That seems like a good thing to me.
I make no bones about it, I am a libertarian with a heart that is a little too big to be a purist. I believe that most things (people, business) are better off if left alone. That being said, I fully disagree with the whole idea that a corporation is the same as an individual. Corporations need to be kept from becoming too powerful or it is the same as having a bloated government. |
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| Abba |
I'm leaning towards Edwards. I've liked what I've seen so far. The guy came from humble beginnings and made himself what he is today.
He's not claiming to have done it on his own, but through the help of America, who has been there for him and all of us.
He's so far been the only candidate to make a conscious effort to directly answer questions. |
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| salafibrigades |
| Edwards is Bilderberg |
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| Abba |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
Edwards is Bilderberg |
Which means that he's a pretty smart man. :D
The only power-broker club Bush is eligable for is the NASCAR society, where they discuss power steering in race cars. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Abba
I'm leaning towards Edwards. I've liked what I've seen so far. The guy came from humble beginnings and made himself what he is today.
He's not claiming to have done it on his own, but through the help of America, who has been there for him and all of us.
He's so far been the only candidate to make a conscious effort to directly answer questions. |
None of them are perfect by any means, but Edwards and Kucinich are the only ones I have given money to so far. |
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| salafibrigades |
Quote: Originally posted by Abba
Which means that he's a pretty smart man. :D
The only power-broker club Bush is eligable for is the NASCAR society, where they discuss power steering in race cars. |
Yeah its just a social club thats all. Nothing odd or sinister there. Just Kings and Queens Politicians and heads of major corporations getting together to discuss policy. Edwards is a puppet. |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
I consider myself rather liberal and a supporter of Ron Paul. If he were to win the GOP nomination I would vote for him over any of the Dems.
That said, If Hillary wins the democratic nomination I would vote for Giuliani (or any other republican candidate) out of spite for the democratic party being a bunch of idiotic tools who just voted to continue Bush's failed policies anyway....
Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and all of them just authorized war with Iran by branding the Iranian Guard as a "terrorist organization" ... that give's heir bush full reign to do as he pleases.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM...-YkDhrHSOjBfhrA
Way to go Dems! Zimmie is right... this is a one party system. We officially live in a corporatocracy and someone like Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul is probably the only thing that can save us from our inevitable self destruction... Man I hope I'm wrong... but it's looking real bleak. |
That's right :yesshake:
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
- Claire Wolfe, 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution |
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Bilderberg Social Club Attendees
Heads of government, heads of state and royalty
Gordon Brown, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Tony Blair (1993)[3], former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
John Major, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Margaret Thatcher (1975)[4], former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
James Callaghan, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Edward Heath, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Harold Wilson, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Otto von Habsburg, Archduke and Crown Prince of Austria
Alfred Gusenbauer, current Chancellor of Austria
Franz Vranitzky, former Austrian Chancellor
Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, former President of the French Republic
Georges Pompidou, former President of the French Republic
Dominique de Villepin (2003), former Prime Minister of France
Laurent Fabius, former Prime Minister of France
Michel Rocard, former Prime Minister of France
Pierre Bérégovoy, former Prime Minister of France
Süleyman Demirel, former Prime Minister of Turkey
Bülent Ecevit, former Prime Minister of Turkey
Adnan Menderes, former Prime Minister of Turkey
António Guterres, former Prime Minister of Portugal
Garret FitzGerald, former Prime Minister of Ireland
John Bruton, former Prime Minister of Ireland
Felipe Gonzalez, former Prime Minister of Spain
Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Queen Sofia of Spain, wife of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands[5]
Bill Clinton (1991)[3], former US President, 1993 - 2001
Infanta Cristina, Duchess of Palma de Mallorca, younger daughter of Juan Carlos I, King of Spain
Kostas Karamanlis (1998), current Prime Minister of Greece
Constantine Mitsotakis, former Prime Minister of Greece
Angela Merkel (2005), current Chancellor of Germany
Romano Prodi (Steering Committee Member of Bilderberg in the 1980s), current Italian Prime Minister and former President of the European Commission
Lester B. Pearson, former Prime Minister of Canada
Pierre Trudeau, former Prime Minister of Canada
Jean Chrétien, Canadian Prime Minister, 1993 - 2003
Paul Martin, Canadian Prime Minister, 2003 - 2006
Stephen Harper (2003), Canadian Prime Minister, 2006 - Present
Francisco Pinto Balsemao, former Prime Minister of Portugal, 1981 - 1983 and CEO of Impresa media group
Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, King of Sweden
Fredrik Reinfeldt, elected Prime Minister of Sweden, 2006 - Present
Carl Bildt[5], former Swedish Prime Minister and current Minister for Foreign Affairs
Olof Palme, former Prime Minister of Sweden
DavÃ_ð Oddsson, former Prime Minister of Iceland, 1991-2004
Philippe, Duke of Brabant, Crown Prince of Belgium
Dan Quayle (1990,1991), former US Vice President
Walter F. Mondale, former US Vice President
Nelson A. Rockefeller, former US Vice President, former Governor of New York
Gerald R. Ford (1964,1966), former US President
Gerhard Schröder, former Chancellor of Germany
Helmut Kohl, former Chancellor of Germany
Helmut Schmidt, former Chancellor of Germany
Gro Harlem Brundtland, former Prime Minister of Norway
Jens Stoltenberg, current Prime Minister of Norway
KÃ¥re Willoch, former Prime Minister of Norway
Anders Fogh Rasmussen, current Prime Minister of Denmark
Prince Philip (1965,1966,1967), Duke of Edinburgh
Prince Charles (1986), Prince of Wales
[edit] Members of United States administrations
Christian Herter (1961, 63, 64)[6], former Secretary of State
Henry Kissinger (2004[7],2005,2006), Secretary of State, 1973 - 1977
Richard Perle (2003), assistant Secretary of Defense, 1981 - 1987
Donald Rumsfeld (1975,2002), Secretary of Defense, 2001 - 2006
David L. Aaron, Deputy National Security Advisor
Colin L. Powell (1997), former United States Secretary of State
William J. Perry (1996), former United States Secretary of Defense
Lloyd Bentsen (1989,1995,1996,1997), former United States Secretary of the Treasury
Brent Scowcroft (1994), former National Security Advisor
Nicholas F. Brady (1991), former United States Secretary of the Treasury
Robert Zoellick (1991,2003,2006), former Deputy Secretary of State and proposed President of the World Bank
Richard Holbrooke (1995,1996,1997,1998,1999,2004,2005,2006), former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
James A. Baker, former United States Secretary of State, former United States Secretary of the Treasury
Lawrence Summers (1998,2002), former United States Secretary of the Treasury
C. Douglas Dillon, former United States Secretary of the Treasury
[edit] Heads of major corporations
H. J. Heinz II (1954)[8], CEO of H. J. Heinz Company
Josef Ackermann (2005), CEO of Deutsche Bank
Lord Browne of Madingley (1997[5], 2004), Chief Executive BP
Jorma Ollila (1997[5], 2005), Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell and Nokia Corporation
Jürgen E. Schrempp (1997[5], 2005), former CEO of DaimlerChrysler
Peter Sutherland (1997[5], 2005), former Chairman of BP
Martin Taylor (1997)[5], former CEO, Barclays
Daniel Vasella (2005), Chairman and CEO of Novartis
Percy Barnevik (1997[5], 2001), former CEO of ASEA
Anders Björgerd (1973, 1982), former deputy CEO of Sydkraft AB
Harald Norvik (2006), former CEO of Statoil
Eivind Reiten , former CEO of Norsk Hydro
Andrew Knight - Director of News Corporation, 1991-present, CEO of News International, 1900-1994, CEO and Editor-in-Chief The Daily Telegraph Group, Editor of The Economist, 1974-1984
[edit] UK cabinet ministers
Kenneth Clarke, former Chancellor of the Exchequer, 1993-1997; member of the Opposition 1998-1999, 2003-2004
Denis Healey, former Secretary of State for Defence 1963-1970, former Chancellor of the Exchequer 1974-1979 (founder member of Bilderberg)
Ed Balls, Economic Secretary to the Treasury 2006 - 2007
[edit] Journalists
Alexandre Adler, French conservative journalist (2003)
Paul Gigot - Editor of the Editorial Page of The Wall Street Journal; 2003- Present
Martin Wolf - Financial Times columnist
Juan Luis Cebrián - Ex-director of El PaÃ_s Spanish journal, and delegated advisor of PRISA Group
Will Hutton (1997)[3]
Peter Jennings
George Will (1981)
Charlie Rose (2002)
Fareed Zakaria (2002, 2005)
Andrea Mitchell (2002)
Lesley Stahl (1997)
Thomas L. Friedman (1995, 2003)
Bill D. Moyers (1971)
Jim Hoagland (1993, 1998, 1999, 2002)
Vendeline A. H. von Bredow (2006, 2007) - Business Correspondent for The Economist
Adrian D. Wooldridge (2004-2007) - Foreign Correspondent for The Economist
[edit] EU Commissioners
European Union Commissioners who have attended include:
Ritt Bjerregaard (1995)
Frederik Bolkestein (2003)[9]
Hans van den Broek (1995)
Emma Bonino (1998)
Leon Brittan (1998)
Pascal Lamy (2003)[9]
Mario Monti (1996,2003[9]) - former or present member of the Steering Committee
Erkki Liikanen
Pedro Solbes
Günter Verheugen
António Vitorino
Romano Prodi - Steering Committee Member of Bilderberg in the 1980s
Wim Duisenberg
Lord Patten of Barnes
Peter Mandelson (1999)
Étienne Davignon, conference chairman in 2005
Neelie Kroes (2005 - 2007) - present Commissioner for Competition
[edit] UK civil servants
Eric Roll (Steering committee)[10], Department of Economic Affairs, 1964
[edit] Military
Terence Airey, Military Governor of Trieste
[edit] Other attendees
Joseph E. Johnson (1954)[8], President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
David Rockefeller, An original U.S. founding member, life member, and member of the Steering Committee (1954-);
Zbigniew Brzezinski (Guest, 1972), President Carter's National Security Advisor;
Gordon Richardson (1975)[11], former Governor of the Bank of England
George W. Ball (1954-1992)[12], U.S. diplomat
Lord Black of Crossharbour (1997)[5], Telegraph Chairman;
William J McDonough (1997)[5], President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York;
Sauli Niinistö (1997)[5], former Minister of Finance (Finland) , Speaker of eduskunta
C. Fred Bergsten (1997)[5], President, Peterson Institute;
Leif Pagrotsky (2001), Swedish Minister for Education, Research and Culture [1];
Björn Bjarnason, in 1988 and 1991 as vice editor of Morgunblaðið, and in 1993 and 1995 as Icelandic minister of education;
Guest at the 2003 Bilderberg Meeting included Carlos M. Collazo;
Richard N. Haass (2004)[7], president, Council on Foreign Relations;
Guests at the 2004 Bilderberg Meeting included John Edwards, James Wolfensohn, Melinda Gates, and Mario Draghi;
Guests at the 2005 Bilderberg Meeting included Vernon Jordan and Mark Warner and may also have included, according to the Financial Times of May 2, Natan Sharansky and Bernard Kouchner;
Guests at the 2006 Bilderberg Meeting included Vernon Jordan, George Pataki, Richard Perle, Dennis Ross, and prominent Canadians Paul Desmarais, Frank McKenna, Heather Reisman and Globe and Mail publisher Philip Crawley, Mahmood Sariolghalam (Iran National University), Siv Jensen, leader of Norwegian political party Fremskrittspartiet, Johann Olav Koss, and chairman of Scandinavian Airlines Egil Myklebust;
Heather Munroe-Blum, Principal and Vice-Chancellor, McGill University, Montreal, Canada.
George Osborne(2006)[13]- Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer 2004-Present; member of the opposition 2001-Present
Bill Bradley (1985), former US Senator
Jay Rockefeller (1971), current US Senator
L. Douglas Wilder (1991), former Governor of Virginia, current Mayor of Richmond, Virginia
Bill Richardson (1999,2000), current Governor of New Mexico
Christopher Dodd (1999,2000,2001), current US Senator
Chuck Hagel (1999,2000,2001), current US Senator
Evan Bayh (1999), current US Senator
Kay Bailey Hutchison (2000,2002), current US Senator
Hillary Clinton (1997), current US Senator
Dianne Feinstein (1991), current US Senator
Jon Corzine (1995,1996,1997[5],1999,2003,2004), current Governor of New Jersey
James Florio (1994), former Governor of New Jersey
Christine Todd Whitman (1998), former Governor of New Jersey
Sam Nunn (1996,1997[5]), former US Senator
Tom Foley (1995,2002), former Speaker of the US House of Representatives
Lee H. Hamilton (1997)[5], former US Congressman
George Stephanopoulos (1996,1997[5])
William Kristol (1995)
David Gergen (1995)
William F. Buckley, Jr. (1975,1996)
Mortimer Zuckerman (1994)
James Kimsey (2006)
George Soros (1994,1996,2000,2002)
Dora Bakoyannis (2003), current Minister for Foreign Affairs (Greece), former Mayor of Athens
Rupert Murdoch
Javier Solana
Paul Volcker (1997)[5], former Chairman of the Federal Reserve
Alan Greenspan (2002), former Chairman of the Federal Reserve
Siv Jensen (2006), Chairman Fremskrittspartiet, Norwegian neo-conservative party
John G. Bernander , former head of the Norwegian national broadcaster NRK
Paddy Ashdown (1989), former leader of the UK Liberal Democrats
David Owen, former British Foreign Secretary
Marcus Wallenberg, current Chairman of Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken, former CEO of Investor AB
Jacob Wallenberg, current Chairman of Investor AB, former Chairman of Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken
Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild
Guy de Rothschild
Sir Evelyn de Rothschild (1998)
Emma Rothschild (1995)
Lynn Forester de Rothschild (1998)
José Manuel Barroso, current President of the European Commission
Alexander Haig, former United States Secretary of State
Daniel Janssen
Winston Lord, former United States Ambassador to China
Donald E. Graham, Chairman of the Board of The Washington Post Company
Dwayne Andreas, Chairman and CEO of Archer Daniels Midland
Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, current Secretary General of NATO
George Robertson, Baron Robertson of Port Ellen, former Secretary General of NATO
Kurt Waldheim, former Secretary-General of the United Nations
Siegmund Warburg, founder of S.G. Warburg & Co.
Eric Warburg, founder of Warburg Pincus
Robert S. McNamara, former US Secretary of Defense, former President of the World Bank
Franz Josef Strauß, former Defense Minister of Germany
Robert Rubin, former US Secretary of the Treasury
Rahmi Koç, Turkish business tycoon
Louis V. Gerstner, former Chairman of IBM, current Chairman of The Carlyle Group
Maurice R. Greenberg, former Chairman and CEO of American International Group
Rodrigo de Rato, current IMF Managing Director
Graham Allison
Jacques Attali
Jozias van Aartsen, former Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs
Maxime Verhagen, current Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs
Michael Dukakis (1988), former Governor of Massachusetts
Michael Boskin (1991)
Jacques Parizeau, former Premier of Quebec
Robert Bourassa, former Premier of Quebec
Jean Lesage, former Premier of Quebec
Mike Harris, former Premier of Ontario
Ralph Klein, former Premier of Alberta
Bernard Lord, former Premier of New Brunswick
Robert L. Stanfield, former Premier of Nova Scotia
Lionel Jospin, former Prime Minister of France
Dominique Strauss-Kahn
E. Gerald Corrigan, former President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, current Goldman Sachs Managing Director
George J. Mitchell, former US Senator
Norman Lamont, former Chancellor of the Exchequer
William Hague, former leader of the Conservative Party (UK), current Shadow Foreign Secretary
Sir Malcolm Rifkind, former British Foreign Secretary
Douglas Hurd, former British Foreign Secretary
Cecil Parkinson, former Chairman of the Conservative Party
Roy Jenkins, former President of the European Commission
Reginald Maudling, former Chancellor of the Exchequer
Hugh Gaitskell, former leader of the Labour Party (UK)
William Waldegrave, Baron Waldegrave of North Hill
John Smith (UK politician) , former leader of the British Labour Party
William Rodgers, Baron Rodgers of Quarry Bank
Clement Davies, former leader of the Liberal Party (UK)
Jo Grimond, former leader of the Liberal Party (UK)
Jeremy Thorpe, former leader of the Liberal Party (UK)
David Steel, former leader of the Liberal Party (UK)
David Hannay, Baron Hannay of Chiswick
Geoffrey Rippon
David Ormsby-Gore, 5th Baron Harlech, former British Ambassador to the United States
Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma
Christopher Price (UK politician) , former Labour Party (UK) Member of Parliament, former member of the European Parliament
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 7th Marquess of Salisbury
Michael Stewart, Baron Stewart of Fulham
George Thomson, Baron Thomson of Monifieth
Quintin Hogg, Baron Hailsham of St Marylebone
George Brown, Baron George-Brown
Enoch Powell
Kenneth Younger
John Horam
Hans Speidel
Stavros Niarchos, Greek shipping tycoon
Claus von Amsberg
Marshall McLuhan
Anatoly Chubais
Alfred Herrhausen, German banker, former Chairman of Deutsche Bank
Jürgen Ponto, German banker, former Chairman of Dresdner Bank
Preston Manning
JoaquÃ_n Almunia
Jean-Claude Trichet, current President of the European Central Bank
Alexandre Lamfalussy
Mervyn A. King, current Governor of the Bank Of England
Jacques de Larosière, former Governor of the Banque de France
Kemal DerviÅŸ, current UNDP Administrator
Ad Melkert, current UNDP Associate Administrator
William J. Luti
Timothy F. Geithner, current President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Rick Perry (2007), current Governor of Texas
Jyrki Katainen (2007), current Minister of Finance (Finland)
Michael Barone (pundit) (2007)
Lloyd Blankfein (2007), CEO of Goldman Sachs
Eric E. Schmidt (2007), Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Google
Kathleen Sebelius (2007), current Governor of Kansas
Sidney Taurel (2007), Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Eli Lilly
Vin Weber (2007)
Josette Sheeran (2007), Executive Director of United Nations World Food Programme
Kristen Silverberg (2007)
Peter A. Thiel (2007), Co-Founder, PayPal
Ross Wilson (ambassador) (2007), current United States Ambassador to Turkey
Philip D. Zelikow (2007)
Marc Grossman (2007)
Esther Dyson (2007)
Craig Mundie
Tim Collins (financier)
John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard
Richard Dearlove (2007), former head of MI6
Jason Kenney (2007)
Guido Westerwelle (2007), Leader of the Free Democratic Party of Germany
Anders Borg (2007), current Minister for Finance of Sweden
Frank Heemskerk (2007)
Dermot Gleeson, Chairman of Allied Irish Banks
Michael McDowell (2007)
Michel Barnier (2007), former French Foreign Minister
Paul Hermelin (2007), CEO of Capgemini
Laurence Parisot (2007), Head of French MEDEF
Christine Ockrent (2007)
John Elkann
Klaus Schwab
Anna Diamantopoulou
Georgios Alogoskoufis, current Minister for Economy and Finance (Greece)
Mogens Lykketoft
Idar Kreutzer (2007), CEO of Storebrand
Klaus Kleinfeld, CEO of Siemens AG
Hikmet Çetin (2007)
Emre Gönensay (2007)
Ali Babacan (2007) |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
obama is a tool of the cfr. invade nuclear pakistan? good idea ya twit. |
Please post his exact quote where he said he'd INVADE pakistan.
Can't wait for this.
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
obama is a tool of the cfr. invade nuclear pakistan? good idea ya twit. |
First - never said to invade Pakistan, but said tactical strikes taking out Osama Bin Laden would be pursued if Musharraff failed to act
Secondly - Since you dont believe that there are such things as terrorists, of course going after anybody in the middle east would be worthless to you. |
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| rod_jammer |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Nevertheless, please explain how Rudy Giuliani was a "greedy, corrupt, failure" as mayor.
Please be specific. |
On May 24, 2006, five weeks after accepting appointment to the Iraq Study Group, and after missing all of the group's meetings, Giuliani resigned, citing his "previous time commitments". It later was discovered that it was Giuliani's fundraising schedule which had kept him from participating in the panel, a schedule which raised $11.4 million in speaking fees over fourteen months, and that Giuliani had been forced to resign after being given "an ultimatum to either show up for meetings or leave the group."
From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Guilani |
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| zimmie |
| You have to admire someone who chooses not to participate in something that cannot devote their full time and attention to. |
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| ChaseDC |
| more excuses toddler GI? |
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| HotShotMagic |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Poor poor confused, disenfranchised persons.....most usually have no spiritual live.....
Don't like Guliani, Clinton, Romney, Obama, Thompson, Edwards, poor fuckers are chasing their tails pipe dreaming about Ron Paul (who if they recognized his views beyong Iraq would hate his views), must suck to be living as a fringe element in American society..... |
I enjoy the "fringe" as much as you enjoy the warm feeling of Bush's balls on your face. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
obama is a tool of the cfr. invade nuclear pakistan? good idea ya twit. |
Ah, the call of a chickenhawk: chase terrorists anywhere there aren't nukes. |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
They did not "authorize war" with Iran. It was a stupid vote on their part, but it is a non-binding resolution.
And I hope you are smarter than to actually cast your vote for an incompetent idiot like Guiliani, JT.... I understand your dislike of Hillary, I am certainly no fan of hers, but the WORST Dem is still better than the BEST Republican in this election. |
Yeah it was non-binding... but with that many of them going for it the 'binding" one will be soon to follow.
I would just be really frustrated with the Democrats if they nominate Hillary because she's another john kerry.
A candidate who's just crappy enough to lose to even the worst republican... The only thing she has going for her is that she is Bill Clintons wife and he was impeached! Albeit for borderline retarded reasons you can bet that will be on the table if she wins the primary... I honestly can't say I will vote Democrat in 08 if she wins... she's just as bad as Giuliani would be...
besides his only strong point being 911 he's at least progressive on social issues... |
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| salafibrigades |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Ah, the call of a chickenhawk: chase terrorists anywhere there aren't nukes. |
So you would like more war? I don't understand. Obama is no hero, he is a war monger and Al Qaeda is not real. Would you be willing to fight in Pakistan or send your children over there to fight for "democracy"? |
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| Halcyon |
What an awesome thread. All of you have just thoroughly convinced me that my vote is worth less than nothing.
I won't be voting this coming election. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
So you would like more war? I don't understand. Obama is no hero, he is a war monger and Al Qaeda is not real. Would you be willing to fight in Pakistan or send your children over there to fight for "democracy"? |
Nobody wants more war. The point is: OBL is in Pakistan, not Iraq. There is NOBODY in Iraq responsible for 9/11. If we're going to defend 9/11, we have to go after the people responsible. We wouldn't be in Pakistan to fight for democracy. We would be there to get OBL and his henchmen.
And to say we will not chase anyone in Pakistan because the govt has nukes is just cowardly. We should follow Bush's plan and take over a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11??? |
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| JTProcess |
Obama was making a good point that I agree strongly with...
If you're going to wage war do it effectively and actually hit your enemies.
This is contrary to "the Bush doctrine": fabricate some links to "terrorism" then randomly attack whoever you feel like and start funneling American tax dollars into your friends pockets... |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2004/11/sheep.jpg |
You say sheep.....are you any different? If you could explain I would appreciate it. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
i disagree with this ..dems have 2 strong cans..hillary and obama. who do repubs have
romney - who seems liek he would suck the cock of any corp guy quicker than bush ever could
guileani - gets pay checks from the mexican goverment
mccain - maybe but he can't keep his mouth shut
ron paul - ha
brownback - bigger HA
the one repub who has no chance who i like is tommy thompson. he has a bad rug though |
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| jtheweirdo |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
- Claire Wolfe, 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution |
It was a quote from someone else, but you finally said something that I agree with NC-Stern-Mark! |
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