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| dave24s |
Courtesy of the LoHud Yankees Blog and Peter Abraham http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ :
Pettitte declines option for 2008
November
5
Andy Pettitte has declined his option for 2008. But that doesn’t mean he’s retiring.
Here’s what his agent, Randy Hendricks, said in an e-mail I received earlier tonight:
“I have spoken with Brian Cashman, who has reiterated what Hank Steinbrenner said about the Yankees wanting to give Andy all the time he needs to decide about next season. Accordingly, we are declining to exercise the option for 2008 and Andy will declare free agency in order to free up a roster spot for the Yankees.
“If Andy decides to play, I am confident we can reach an agreement with the Yankees within 24 hours. The only options, as Andy has stated, are the Yankees or retirement. He appreciates the Yankees’ willingness to give him the time he feels he needs. I do not expect him to make a decision for quite some time.”
Quite some time is not good for the Yankees, who need to be able to settle their rotation for next season. Losing Pettitte would be a huge blow.
God dammit god dammit god dammit. |
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| guayuque |
| Rats from a sinking ship. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Yankees decline continues. No way he comes back now. Decline a 16 million dollar option which nobody else will give him besides the Yankees means he wants to go somewhere else. |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Yankees decline continues. No way he comes back now. Decline a 16 million dollar option which nobody else will give him besides the Yankees means he wants to go somewhere else. |
No it doesn't. he just needed more tim to figure out of he wants to play, if he does he'll be a Yankee at that salary. |
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| dave24s |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Yankees decline continues. No way he comes back now. Decline a 16 million dollar option which nobody else will give him besides the Yankees means he wants to go somewhere else. |
He has stated repeatedly that its the Yankees or retirement.
After reading a bit more, last year, he said basically the same thing about wanting to play or not and a month later he signed with the Yankees.
There's hope, however little there is. But it's there. |
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| meetthemets |
| Let the mass exodus continue. |
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| angryashell |
| how the fuck can you turn down that much money, it makes me sick. |
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| KingOfAllMedia |
| He wants to play for a team that has a chance for a World Series trophy. The Yankees obviously are in transition and have no chance of winning anything in the time that Pettitte has left. The demise of the Empire continues!!! :D |
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| otherone4life |
| it's gonna be a loooooooooooong year Yankee fans |
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| Rammstein Musik |
| will the last one to leave the yanks please turn off the lights. |
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| Apoc13 |
Without Pettitte, new Yankees manager Joe Girardi would have a projected starting rotation that includes 19-game winner Chien-Ming Wang, who lost twice to Cleveland in the playoffs; Mike Mussina, who will be 39 next month; and youngsters Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy.
i'm really not tryin to be a dick when i say, obviously it's very early but if i were a yankee fan i'd be very concerned |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Pettitte will follow wherever Clemens goes. They are like Richard and Sal closet fags. |
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| dave24s |
Pettitte will pitch for the Yanks or retire. He's no Arod. Pettitte called Cash personally and talked to him for 20 minutes, then Hendricks released the news.
Pettitte needs more time to think it over, he's a family guy. We'll know for sure by christmas. It's not over, but the lights aren't that bright.
I think he comes back for one last run. But we'll know that in January.
BTW, rumors are that the Yanks may be announcing a new 3 year, 40 millions dollar contract for Mo by Friday. |
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| jasondylan |
| 16 million.. There's nothing to think about. All these athletes can never make up their mind. |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
Without Pettitte, new Yankees manager Joe Girardi would have a projected starting rotation that includes 19-game winner Chien-Ming Wang, who lost twice to Cleveland in the playoffs; Mike Mussina, who will be 39 next month; and youngsters Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy.
i'm really not tryin to be a dick when i say, obviously it's very early but if i were a yankee fan i'd be very concerned |
I still expect Andy to come back but if he dosn't that projected staff is as good as any we have had in recent years. |
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| Harleyb0y |
| he might come back |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
I still expect Andy to come back but if he dosn't that projected staff is as good as any we have had in recent years. |
:lol:
and that has worked out well for you.
Gotta love a staff where half the guys have not even pitched a full major league season, yet you call them as good as any pitching staff in prior years.
Either your a complete moron or you are psychic. I know your not psychic, because I have never seen worse predictions in my life made by one person(see the Jets thread). I guess it is the first choice:rofl: |
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| jasondylan |
| That opens a roster spot for Pavano..haha |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
:lol:
and that has worked out well for you.
Gotta love a staff where half the guys have not even pitched a full major league season, yet you call them as good as any pitching staff in prior years.
Either your a complete moron or you are psychic. I know your not psychic, because I have never seen worse predictions in my life made by one person(see the Jets thread). I guess it is the first choice:rofl: |
Have you seen our staffs the last few years? Did you see Hughes, Kenney and Joba pitch?
Go look back at your mets predictions before you critique others, most of my predictions have come true You dwell on the few that haven't but at least I offer original opinions and I BACK MY TEAMS rather than just hop on and off the bandwagon. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
Have you seen our staffs the last few years? Did you see Hughes, Kenney and Joba pitch?
Go look back at your mets predictions before you critique others, most of my predictions have come true You dwell on the few that haven't but at least I offer original opinions and I BACK MY TEAMS rather than just hop on and off the bandwagon. |
I do admit that your not a bandwagon fan, that I will give you.
Did I see Hughes pitch? Yeah, he had some great outings but also had some poor outings as well. He pitched well in the playoffs but he is far from a guaranteed 15 game winner.
Kennedy pitched what 3 times this year? Only a Yankee fan is ready to talk about how good this guy is when he pitched THREE TIMES THIS SEASON. THink about it..
Joba was great in the bullpen, if he stays there, then your set. However if he moves to the front line rotation, you have no guarantees. Who the hell knows how he will pitch every 5th day. Especially now when hitters will get to see him at least 2 or 3 times per day.
So again between Kennedy, Hughes and Chamberlain those guys started a grand total of 16 games in the majors in 2006. Now you are saying they are your best starting rotation in years? How the fuck would you know. They certainly have not showed they can do ANYTHING consistantly over the course of a full season.
Most of your predictions come true? Where are those predictions? All I did was find all of your DEAD WRONG Jets predictions. Why dont you show me some of these predictions you were right with. I did my part and showed how dead wrong you were about the Jets, so lets see your right on predictions.
Ill be waiting :rofl: |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I do admit that your not a bandwagon fan, that I will give you.
Did I see Hughes pitch? Yeah, he had some great outings but also had some poor outings as well. He pitched well in the playoffs but he is far from a guaranteed 15 game winner.
Kennedy pitched what 3 times this year? Only a Yankee fan is ready to talk about how good this guy is when he pitched THREE TIMES THIS SEASON. THink about it..
Joba was great in the bullpen, if he stays there, then your set. However if he moves to the front line rotation, you have no guarantees. Who the hell knows how he will pitch every 5th day. Especially now when hitters will get to see him at least 2 or 3 times per day.
So again between Kennedy, Hughes and Chamberlain those guys started a grand total of 16 games in the majors in 2006. Now you are saying they are your best starting rotation in years? How the fuck would you know. They certainly have not showed they can do ANYTHING consistantly over the course of a full season.
Most of your predictions come true? Where are those predictions? All I did was find all of your DEAD WRONG Jets predictions. Why dont you show me some of these predictions you were right with. I did my part and showed how dead wrong you were about the Jets, so lets see your right on predictions.
Ill be waiting :rofl: |
I don't have the time that you do to go back and find all these posts but I was right on the Pats winning the div, I was right on beinf scrae dof randy Moss, i was right the Pats overpaid for welker and Thomas. I was wrong on the jets predictions but so was everyone else, not a person alive expected the Jets to be 1-8.
as far as the Yanks go, sure the young guys have question marks but all 3 showed promise and it's not like they are taking over for the '98 staff, our staffs have't been really good in a while and even if these guys struggle a bit I'd rather watch them develo than watch the old, broken down pitchers pitch us to a 1st rd exit although i do expect all 3 to be better than good and all 3 may not be back if they deal for a big time pitcher. regardless of whether Andy decides to come back(and obviously I hope he does) we will have a good pitching staff. |
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| dave24s |
King, about Joba:
He was a starter for most of his one year minor league career (they converted him to a relief guy before being called up) and he was a beast. 9-2 with a 2.45 in 18 games. That's with Tampa, Trenton, and SWB. His K/9 was 13.79. In a smaller sample size with the Yanks, his K/9 was 12.75.
In 88.1 innings in the minors he had 135 K's! With the Yanks in 24 innings he had 34 K's.
Now, I know the minors aren't the majors, but the kid has got something special. Four quality pitches with plenty of strike out ability. As long as he trains to be a starter, I believe he will be just fine. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Joba has proven NOTHING as a starter...To think the guy can win 15+ games is nuts.
You have NOTHING to base it on. Plenty of guys have had good minor league numbers and then failed. He needs to prove it in the majors.
Again, what I am saying is not overboard. Lets see him pitch every 5th day and batters get 3 AB's against him every game..it changes things |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
I don't have the time that you do to go back and find all these posts but I was right on the Pats winning the div, I was right on beinf scrae dof randy Moss, i was right the Pats overpaid for welker and Thomas. I was wrong on the jets predictions but so was everyone else, not a person alive expected the Jets to be 1-8.
as far as the Yanks go, sure the young guys have question marks but all 3 showed promise and it's not like they are taking over for the '98 staff, our staffs have't been really good in a while and even if these guys struggle a bit I'd rather watch them develo than watch the old, broken down pitchers pitch us to a 1st rd exit although i do expect all 3 to be better than good and all 3 may not be back if they deal for a big time pitcher. regardless of whether Andy decides to come back(and obviously I hope he does) we will have a good pitching staff. |
I think you are now officially the dumbest "fan" on the board. I think you now take over for Pussy. Either that or your just too dumb to realize all you do is drink the kool aid. ALWAYS!
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| dave24s |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Joba has proven NOTHING as a starter...To think the guy can win 15+ games is nuts.
You have NOTHING to base it on. Plenty of guys have had good minor league numbers and then failed. He needs to prove it in the majors.
Again, what I am saying is not overboard. Lets see him pitch every 5th day and batters get 3 AB's against him every game..it changes things |
Well, that's because he didn't start in the majors. If you do the math that all the prospect guys do, then the guy is pretty good.
Yes, you're right. But I think I'd rather take my chances with him than an old and broken FA pitcher that we always seem to throw our money away on.
Why is it that when the Tigers started a few young pitchers no one said a thing but when the Yanks do it it's the end of the world? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Because the tigers dont come out and say we had a disappointing season unless we win the world series. As long as old man Stein is still walking this earth, we all know that is the Yankees mindset.
I dont disagree that I would rather take my chances with a young kid then an overpaid FA. I dont disagree with you, but to say this will be the best staff in years is crazy. As starting pitchers, these 3 guys certainly have potential but they have proven jack shit so far. thats my only point, they are far from guaranteed 15 game winners. |
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| dave24s |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Because the tigers dont come out and say we had a disappointing season unless we win the world series. As long as old man Stein is still walking this earth, we all know that is the Yankees mindset.
I dont disagree that I would rather take my chances with a young kid then an overpaid FA. I dont disagree with you, but to say this will be the best staff in years is crazy. As starting pitchers, these 3 guys certainly have potential but they have proven jack shit so far. thats my only point, they are far from guaranteed 15 game winners. |
I'm not saying this is the best staff in years, especially if Pettitte doesn't come back. I am saying that I have a lot more hope for this staff than I have had in recent years. The combo of youth, veterans, and Girardi can, in my opinion, do much more good than bad.
And that mindset has changed. Big Stein is staring at the wall and Hank has said that basically they're lowering the expectation. Not that the goal isn't to win the world series, which should be the goal of all teams, it's that they won't be too disappointed if it doesn't happen. Does that make sense?
Basically, they've become realists.
I hope. |
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| nuge67 |
| Hope Andy comes back, but first things first, GET SANTANA |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by dave24s
I'm not saying this is the best staff in years, especially if Pettitte doesn't come back. |
Sorry did not mean to make you think that you said that. I was referring to Stump who said this staff will be the best in years. That is what I was referring to.
I think we both agree that in November 07, this is not the best Yankees pitching staff in years. Will it be come July? Maybe but it certainly is not in November.
I just love guys like Stump, they do nothing but drink that kool aid. :D |
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| DestroVega |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
Without Pettitte, new Yankees manager Joe Girardi would have a projected starting rotation that includes 19-game winner Chien-Ming Wang, who lost twice to Cleveland in the playoffs; Mike Mussina, who will be 39 next month; and youngsters Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy.
i'm really not tryin to be a dick when i say, obviously it's very early but if i were a yankee fan i'd be very concerned |
I'm a Yankee fan and that rotation would not concern me at all... I hope I see as much of Jaba, Hughes and Kennedy as possible next year. There were games where all three of them were unhittable.
Wang is good, he lost two playoff games, what can you do? And Mussina, after being awful, pulled it somewhat together and he is not a bad #4 or 5.
Pettite justs wants time to decide... retire or play for $16 million... I still think he'll end up coming back. |
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| nuge67 |
| I would love it to be, Santana, Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Joba, Huges and Kennedy.........Not a bad 6 to pick 5 from eh? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
I would love it to be, Santana, Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Joba, Huges and Kennedy.........Not a bad 6 to pick 5 from eh? |
Then you woke up.
If you get Santana either Joba, Hughes or Kennedy will be gone, possibly 2 of them.
Do you think you are getting him for a bag of balls? |
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| dave24s |
Nuge, get over Santana. The price is way too high for a pitcher who is just starting past his prime. I'm not saying he ain't good; he's a great pitcher but the price is just too damn high. First a bunch of high caliber guys and then a 100 mill contract extension? No. We've done that way too many times in the past with disastrous results.'
I do not want to give up Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Cano, or Melky for him. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Then you woke up.
If you get Santana either Joba, Hughes or Kennedy will be gone, possibly 2 of them.
Do you think you are getting him for a bag of balls? |
NO, I think Hughes and Milky would go in that package, WOULD YOU PULL THAT TRIGGER? |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
I would love it to be, Santana, Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Joba, Huges and Kennedy.........Not a bad 6 to pick 5 from eh? |
Keep dreaming, asshole. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
Keep dreaming, asshole. |
you scared there pussy, jump off that sox bandwagon kid, the rides over |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
you scared there pussy, jump off that sox bandwagon kid, the rides over |
Scared of the Yankees? With Hank in charge? Sox again next year, asshole. The Yankees are yesterdays news. |
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| sir1us |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I do admit that your not a bandwagon fan, that I will give you.
Did I see Hughes pitch? Yeah, he had some great outings but also had some poor outings as well. He pitched well in the playoffs but he is far from a guaranteed 15 game winner.
Kennedy pitched what 3 times this year? Only a Yankee fan is ready to talk about how good this guy is when he pitched THREE TIMES THIS SEASON. THink about it..
Joba was great in the bullpen, if he stays there, then your set. However if he moves to the front line rotation, you have no guarantees. Who the hell knows how he will pitch every 5th day. Especially now when hitters will get to see him at least 2 or 3 times per day.
So again between Kennedy, Hughes and Chamberlain those guys started a grand total of 16 games in the majors in 2006. Now you are saying they are your best starting rotation in years? How the fuck would you know. They certainly have not showed they can do ANYTHING consistantly over the course of a full season.
Most of your predictions come true? Where are those predictions? All I did was find all of your DEAD WRONG Jets predictions. Why dont you show me some of these predictions you were right with. I did my part and showed how dead wrong you were about the Jets, so lets see your right on predictions.
Ill be waiting :rofl: |
gotta agree, Joba could turn out to be another Eric Gagne except starting |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
NO, I think Hughes and Milky would go in that package, WOULD YOU PULL THAT TRIGGER? |
Minnesota wont pull that trigger. There are at least 3 other teams who would be willing to give up more. |
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| DestroVega |
| Why would any team deal for Santana? Just wait a year and bid... plus, have you seen his playoff numbers? not good. |
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