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| Maximus06 |
Every Yankee in 2000 was on the juice :rolleyes:
Do the right thing MLB! :p |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by Maximus06
Every Yankee in 2000 was on the juice :rolleyes:
Do the right thing MLB! :p |
I bet you anything Piazza was on the juice. |
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| scotsalemfan |
| They should have drug tested Clemens when he threw that piece of wood at Piazza. |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
| The Mets were supplying the Yanks with roids, what retards...Why would they help us win??? |
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| Maximus06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
The Mets were supplying the Yanks with roids, what retards...Why would they help us win??? |
We fired that bum before 2000 :hhh: |
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| Maximus06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
I bet you anything Piazza was on the juice. |
I don't think so. but you never know |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by Maximus06
We fired that bum before 2000 :hhh: |
The Mets were dishing out the performance enhancing drugs while tehy should have been using them themselves, God knows they needed them... :D |
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| Apoc13 |
| that report is only a small fraction of those that were using...hundreds of players let out a collective sigh of relief when they saw that their name wasn't listed |
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| Maximus06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
The Mets were dishing out the performance enhancing drugs while tehy should have been using them themselves, God knows they needed them... :D |
We should've put Ventura, Timo, Zeille etc on the juice...Pettite, Clemens, Knoblauch, Justice had an unfair advantage! :mad: |
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| scotsalemfan |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
that report is only a small fraction of those that were using...hundreds of players let out a collective sigh of relief when they saw that their name wasn't listed |
You're right. But some of the players who were outed might talk and implicate more. |
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| Bpalm541 |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
that report is only a small fraction of those that were using...hundreds of players let out a collective sigh of relief when they saw that their name wasn't listed |
shhhhhh, dont rain on the Yankee hating parade. |
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| meetthemets |
| This is just sales from one guy. God knows how many more players were buying juice from other sources. |
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| Pussah2 |
| knoblauch could only throw the ball in the stands. how did he help them win |
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| Maximus06 |
| Neagle pitched game 4 on the juice...stanton came out of the pen on it .... |
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| sorabji_66 |
We have photocopies of Radomski's chequing account activity and his testimony, which I hope is true.
I guess that covers the whole problem in baseball... |
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| Wonka23 |
I'll help ya oneldef...
2000 Yankees (post #1)
2B - Chuck Knoblauch *
OF - David Justice *
OF - Glenallen Hill *
DH - Jose Canseco *
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268 Hits, 47 HRs, 198 RBI (and Justice won the ALCS MVP)
SP - Andy Pettite *
SP - Roger Clemens *
SP - Denny Neagle *
RP - Jason Grimsley *
RP - Mike Stanton *
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212 Games Pitched, 664 Innings Pitched, 44 Wins, 499 Ks
Do you think Artie will keep bragging to Gary about how the yankees beat the Mets in the 2000 W.S.?
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| scotsalemfan |
Quote: Originally posted by meetthemets
This is just sales from one guy. God knows how many more players were buying juice from other sources. |
A lot more players had the opportunity to get those drugs.
It was a very random way to show how tainted the sport had become.
Maybe this will take some heat off Bonds, who was doing what almost every power hitter of this era was doing. |
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| DestroVega |
yeah give them the title :rolleyes:
then give the Jets the first game this year and we can kill the Pats unbeaten season :rolleyes: |
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| nuge67 |
| The list proves nothing. Does he have any failed tests? |
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| scotsalemfan |
Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
yeah give them the title :rolleyes:
then give the Jets the first game this year and we can kill the Pats unbeaten season :rolleyes: |
Tim Brown just said that on SNY. He also wanted Beli-cheat suspended. He thought the penalty was too lenient. |
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| johnni44 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
The list proves nothing. Does he have any failed tests? |
Actually it proves a lot. It proves that no matter what you show people as proof of cheating if they have blinders on they won't believe hard and fast evidence. Yes, there should be MANY more on that list from all teams but it doesn't negate the fact that those on it BELONG. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by johnni44
Actually it proves a lot. It proves that no matter what you show people as proof of cheating if they have blinders on they won't believe hard and fast evidence. Yes, there should be MANY more on that list from all teams but it doesn't negate the fact that those on it BELONG. |
What is the evidence? A drug dealer saying he did it? And even if say Clemens did buy roids off this guy,who can prove he actually USED it?Only way to confirm is a urine or blood test, anyone have one? |
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| meetthemets |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
What is the evidence? A drug dealer saying he did it? And even if say Clemens did buy roids off this guy,who can prove he actually USED it?Only way to confirm is a urine or blood test, anyone have one? |
So they all wrote checks for thousands of dollars of roids and didn't use them? You just get dumber every day. |
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| DestroVega |
Quote: Originally posted by meetthemets
So they all wrote checks for thousands of dollars of roids and didn't use them? You just get dumber every day. |
I think Clemens and Pettite are guilty, but they are I think the only two new players accused with no paper trail at all. No checks. |
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| mbrin_61 |
Quote: Originally posted by johnni44
Actually it proves a lot. It proves that no matter what you show people as proof of cheating if they have blinders on they won't believe hard and fast evidence. Yes, there should be MANY more on that list from all teams but it doesn't negate the fact that those on it BELONG. |
Gotta give it to ya.....excellent points. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by meetthemets
So they all wrote checks for thousands of dollars of roids and didn't use them? You just get dumber every day. |
Again,can you prove LEGALLY, in the court of law that Clemens injected them? |
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| meetthemets |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Again,can you prove LEGALLY, in the court of law that Clemens injected them? |
I'm sure there is plenty of evidence showing that Clemens did roids. Maybe not in this report but elsewhere. Do you really believe that Clemens has been drug free his entire career? Keep living in denial. |
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| Pussah2 |
| Michael kay brought ths up on his show. He used jack clark as an example who actually gave an attendant 100 bucks to get him mcdonalds and told him to keep the change. His point was do these checks prove he was getting steroids. Does it prove they took steroids |
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| johnni44 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Again,can you prove LEGALLY, in the court of law that Clemens injected them? |
Can you prove the Easter bunny is NOT real? For that Matter, how bout Santa? |
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| meetthemets |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Michael kay brought ths up on his show. He used jack clark as an example who actually gave an attendant 100 bucks to get him mcdonalds and told him to keep the change. His point was do these checks prove he was getting steroids. Does it prove they took steroids |
Giving a parking attendant $100 for McDonalds and writing multiple $2000 checks to a federally indicted steroid dealer are two very different things. |
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| Case a Beer |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Michael kay brought ths up on his show. He used jack clark as an example who actually gave an attendant 100 bucks to get him mcdonalds and told him to keep the change. His point was do these checks prove he was getting steroids. Does it prove they took steroids |
You have got to be kidding me with that? |
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| Bpalm541 |
Clemens and Pettitte are guilty, but these fucking Mets and Sox fans with their new holier than thou bullshit, give me a break. Talk about being fucking clueless. :rolleyes: (apoc not included)
Now back to the regularly scheduled Yankee hating :cool: |
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| oneldef |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Michael kay brought ths up on his show. He used jack clark as an example who actually gave an attendant 100 bucks to get him mcdonalds and told him to keep the change. His point was do these checks prove he was getting steroids. Does it prove they took steroids |
That's an excellent point. I know one time Andy put a needle into Clemens' ass before a workout. The needle was bought off a guy who was selling HGH and steroids, but it was probably just liquid Big Macs and Fries. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Michael kay brought ths up on his show. He used jack clark as an example who actually gave an attendant 100 bucks to get him mcdonalds and told him to keep the change. His point was do these checks prove he was getting steroids. Does it prove they took steroids |
Yeah they just bought steroids to look cool right? You gotta be fucking joking with this one.
I know these aren't the only guys that did steroids and the whole league is tainted, but right now they have good evidence on Clemens and Pettite. I'm sure Red Sox players took steroids, but right now you have no proof so you can't bring it up. |
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| DestroVega |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Michael kay brought ths up on his show. He used jack clark as an example who actually gave an attendant 100 bucks to get him mcdonalds and told him to keep the change. His point was do these checks prove he was getting steroids. Does it prove they took steroids |
If they have checks for those high amounts, they bought and used in my opinion |
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| EMFBoss |
Quote: Originally posted by Maximus06
Every Yankee in 2000 was on the juice :rolleyes:
Do the right thing MLB! :p |
FUCK the mets. Your team had the biggest snitch in the Report...
Snitches die!! |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
that report is only a small fraction of those that were using...hundreds of players let out a collective sigh of relief when they saw that their name wasn't listed |
Absolutely and according to his report only Clemens and neagle were using in 2000. The other Yanks named reportedly began after 2000 but I think we can all agree there were more Yankees, mets, red Sox, cardinals,... whatever team you want to mention there were alot more players(and key players) from each team that were not "exposed" in this report. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Michael kay brought ths up on his show. He used jack clark as an example who actually gave an attendant 100 bucks to get him mcdonalds and told him to keep the change. His point was do these checks prove he was getting steroids. Does it prove they took steroids |
So Michael Kay is trying to defend his cheating Yankees?
I would have never guessed!
So if it wasnt for steroids lets see the Yankee players sue MLB's ass!! |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
whatever team you want to mention there were alot more players(and key players) from each team that were not "exposed" in this report. |
Have any proof to back that up?
I am not saying your wrong, but there is no evidence that "alot more key players" were not exposed.
You have nothing to back up your statement! (as usual) |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
So Michael Kay is trying to defend his cheating Yankees?
I would have never guessed!
So if it wasnt for steroids lets see the Yankee players sue MLB's ass!! |
he was not defending the yankees. He was saying the evidence on everyone was weak. Not shipping statements, no receipts, just canceled checks |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
he was not defending the yankees. He was saying the evidence on everyone was weak. Not shipping statements, no receipts, just canceled checks |
If they evidence is weak and they are innocent then they will sue.
Mitchell is a former federal prosecutor, I highly doubt he is going to out a guy without ample evidence.
Obviously Michael Kay is not very bright. When you buy something illegal, you rarely get a receipt!! :rolleyes:
Again, lets see the lawsuit! |
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| DestroVega |
| ^ Looks like Clemens might sue... which I wouldn't be shocked, there is no paper trail to him, just his word against another. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
^ Looks like Clemens might sue... which I wouldn't be shocked, there is no paper trail to him, just his word against another. |
I never saw the lawyer mention lawsuit once...Did I miss it? |
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| DestroVega |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I never saw the lawyer mention lawsuit once...Did I miss it? |
Why else do you get a lawyer then? He's not gonna face criminal charges... I think he is guilty, don't get me wrong, but since he is one of the guys with no real paper trail, he is one of the only that might be able to sue. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
Why else do you get a lawyer then? He's not gonna face criminal charges... I think he is guilty, don't get me wrong, but since he is one of the guys with no real paper trail, he is one of the only that might be able to sue. |
You get a lawyer to speak for you. So you do not say anything dumb.
Many people have lawyers, that does not mean you are going to sue. You know this man! |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Have any proof to back that up?
I am not saying your wrong, but there is no evidence that "alot more key players" were not exposed.
You have nothing to back up your statement! (as usual) |
The King of not backing up his arguments points fingers at another? :rolleyes:
eal know this is only a smal fraction of the guys that used. There were more yankees and Mets b/c the Yankees and Mets clubhouse guys were the ones that talked. There are so many more players involved w/ this and you know it but you are a jealous Yankee ater so you take any opportunity to bash b/c it's the only way you can try and make the Mets look better(even though numerous Mets were announced including Stanton who according to the report used as a Met and NOT as a Yankee). |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
The King of not backing up his arguments points fingers at another? :rolleyes:
eal know this is only a smal fraction of the guys that used. There were more yankees and Mets b/c the Yankees and Mets clubhouse guys were the ones that talked. There are so many more players involved w/ this and you know it but you are a jealous Yankee ater so you take any opportunity to bash b/c it's the only way you can try and make the Mets look better(even though numerous Mets were announced including Stanton who according to the report used as a Met and NOT as a Yankee). |
Well I am very glad we did not win a WS with Stanton on our team, then our shit would be tained JUST LIKE YOURS IS!!!
Why dont you show me one time I did not back up an argument with FACTS! Find it once. I guarantee you can not find it or just ingore this all together.
I bash the Yankees because they won World Series titles with a large percentage of their team CHEATING. Not one other team so far has had as many meaningful players WINNING TITLES AND CHEATING.
I know you want to pretend it never happened but according to everybody, your shit is tained and always will be.
How does that feel buddy!!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :cool: |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Well I am very glad we did not win a WS with Stanton on our team, then our shit would be tained JUST LIKE YOURS IS!!!
Why dont you show me one time I did not back up an argument with FACTS! Find it once. I guarantee you can not find it or just ingore this all together.
I bash the Yankees because they won World Series titles with a large percentage of their team CHEATING. Not one other team so far has had as many meaningful players WINNING TITLES AND CHEATING.
I know you want to pretend it never happened but according to everybody, your shit is tained and always will be.
How does that feel buddy!!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :cool: |
One time? it happens in every post, the latest is te 2000 Yankees info you are posting. Right before that was when you said that I wrote that Clemens was the real deal. It's in every post, you don't like to bring facts into discussions. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
One time? it happens in every post, the latest is te 2000 Yankees info you are posting. Right before that was when you said that I wrote that Clemens was the real deal. It's in every post, you don't like to bring facts into discussions. |
You did call Kellen Clemens "the real deal". And you know you said it. I even know when you said it, after the 2nd or 3rd preseason games, when he played a bunch. Your exact quote was that he "looked like the real deal".
Remember also saying how great of a season Thomas Jones was going to have and how the Jets were going to win 10 games,,,
Let me guess, you never said any of that also! :rofl:
P.S Keep deflecting. I know you did not want to face the FACTS that I said in my last post. So keep deflecting :D
P.P.S If it happens so many times, why dont you show me some examples....You cant bullshit a bullshitter buddy!! |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Hey Stump, one more thing.
I could not help but notice out of your last 16 posts, at least 14 of them are responding to me.
Are you a queer that wants to suck my dick or something? Why the hard on for me buddy? |
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| Bpalm541 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Not one other team so far has had as many meaningful players WINNING TITLES AND CHEATING.
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I knew this was gonna happen, the only people that use steroids are Bonds and the Yankees :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Any logical sports fan outside of the Boston area knows that it wasn't just the Yankees. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Bpalm541
I knew this was gonna happen, the only people that use steroids are Bonds and the Yankees :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Any logical sports fan outside of the Boston area knows that it wasn't just the Yankees. |
Who said it was just the Yankees?
However, what other team has had as many championships and cheaters?
I do not think I am making a giant leap.... |
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| Bpalm541 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Who said it was just the Yankees?
However, what other team has had as many championships and cheaters?
I do not think I am making a giant leap.... |
The report was very careless with the amount of sources it used, find me one analyst that says otherwise.
There were many players having a nice glass of champagne that night, but it gives all the haters another fruitless reason to break Yankee fans' balls. So, knock yourself out King, this is your big day. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Bpalm541
The report was very careless with the amount of sources it used, find me one analyst that says otherwise.
There were many players having a nice glass of champagne that night, but it gives all the haters another fruitless reason to break Yankee fans' balls. So, knock yourself out King, this is your big day. |
Dude, the facts are the facts. Find me any other team that won as many championships and has as many users then the Yankees?
I never claimed they busted everybody. But they busted the Yankees and those titles are clearly tainted. I do not even think you would argue that. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Bpalm, just curious, how do you think we should proceed?
Should we just pretend we did not see approximately 20 Yankee names on the list and assume every title they won was on the up and up..
Again, I am not saying they are the only people who are guilty. But they are the only people we are positive are guilty, right now. So how should we proceed?
Continue to give them props, even though 1/2 of their 2000 WS Starting Staff was cheating? |
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| Bpalm541 |
King, I don't think the Yankee championships are tainted. I think that they won four championships in an era of baseball that is tainted. This report hasn't changed my opinion of anything. In fact, I think that there are guys currently on the Yankees roster that are on steroids, that were NOT named in the report.
Did the Yankees have users on their championship teams? Absolutely.
During those championship years, did they beat teams that had users? Without a doubt.
The playing field is level, as much as might not want to admit it. There are millions of people in this country taking steroids illegally, 99.9% of them still haven't accomplished anything in their life. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Bpalm541
King, I don't think the Yankee championships are tainted. I think that they won four championships in an era of baseball that is tainted. This report hasn't changed my opinion of anything. In fact, I think that there are guys currently on the Yankees roster that are on steroids, that were NOT named in the report.
Did the Yankees have users on their championship teams? Absolutely.
During those championship years, did they beat teams that had users? Without a doubt.
The playing field is level, as much as might not want to admit it. There are millions of people in this country taking steroids illegally, 99.9% of them still haven't accomplished anything in their life. |
Nobody is arguing the fact that there are people on EVERY TEAM that are active players right now and using either HGH and/or steroids.
But those other teams did not win championships with cheaters, at least of as of now, that is confirmed. If later on we find out guys on the 03 Marlins, 04 Sox and 01 D-Backs were on the juice, then they should be tainted as well, just like the Yankees. However, that is not the case AS OF NOW. As of NOW, we know for a fact that the Yankees won World Series titles with guys who cheated.
I find it VERY hary to believe that your love for the Yankees does not cloud your mindset on this issue. Almost every journalist has claimed that YOU CAN ARGUE that the Yankees championships are tainted, especially the one in 2000. When half of their starting staff, and approx 9 players on the team cheated at some point in their career. You have a right to question some things. If they later prove to be falsely accused, then I will stand corrected. However, if they do not sue or do not prove the claims false then I think I have 2 legs to stand on. |
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| mbrin_61 |
| There were more Yankees on the list than anybody. That's factual. To state all 26 Championships are tainted is a big, big, leap. |
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| KeithHernandez |
| I could play a game drunk and hit better than most of these chumps today :rolleyes: |
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| oneldef |
Anybody can THINK that every championship team had cheates on it. But we KNOW that the yankees were cheating. 3 of the 4 Wins came from guys juicing in the 2000 W.S.
*Tainted...no question about it*. |
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| mbrin_61 |
Quote: Originally posted by KeithHernandez
I could play a game drunk and hit better than most of these chumps today :rolleyes: |
Keith,
Love your hair club for men commercial or whatever the fuck it is with Walt Frazier.....P.S. Glad you got off the coke, too. :) |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by mbrin_61
There were more Yankees on the list than anybody. That's factual. To state all 26 Championships are tainted is a big, big, leap. |
I agree, nobody can possibly say 26 championships are tainted.
But to say you can not argue 2000 is ludicrious. Again, I am only saying you can argue the fact. Not that one side is right or wrong. |
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| KeithHernandez |
Quote: Originally posted by mbrin_61
Keith,
Love your hair club for men commercial or whatever the fuck it is with Walt Frazier.....P.S. Glad you got off the coke, too. :) |
"Cocaine's a helluva drug" ;) |
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| Disco_stu73 |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
knoblauch could only throw the ball in the stands. how did he help them win |
Knoblauch had an RBI in game one. Guess how many runs the Yankees won that game by? |
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| J Mets |
Here are some stats from the 2000 series
all 4 games won by the yankees were started by a roid head;
3 of the 4 victories recorded by the yankee pitchers were by cheaters;
Yankees outscored the mets 19-16
Knoblauch and justice had a combined 4 rbis and 2 runs scored (31.5% of
the yankees runs that series)
Roided pitchers pitched 65% of the innings yet only gave up 55% of the
hits and 55% of the runs
roid Yankees 3 wins, 0 losses 30.67 IP, 22 hits; 5 runs; 28 strikeouts; 1.47 era;
this includes clemens, stanton, pettite, neagle
Non roid yankess 16.33 IP; 18 hits;9 runs; 20 strikeouts; 4.96 era;
In game 1 which the yankees won 4-3 Justice had 2 rbis, knoblauch scored
a run and hit the game tying sac fly in the ninth
After his injection in the last 2 games of 2000 (LCS, World Series) Clemens stats were as follows:
17 shutout innings, 24 strikeouts, 1 thrown bat
the fact pettite getting caught in a subsequent year is little excuse, kinda like saying a person who got a dwi only drove drunk once.
Real World Champions, the 2000 New York Mets
hotdog =5 bucks
ticket =70 bucks
The fact that Roger Clemens will have to pay admission to Cooperstown
and will be sitting at home watching Mike Piazza get inducted on the
first ballot (assuming Clemens's heart doesn't explode in the next 5
years)
PRICELESS |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by J Mets
Here are some stats from the 2000 series
all 4 games won by the yankees were started by a roid head;
3 of the 4 victories recorded by the yankee pitchers were by cheaters;
Yankees outscored the mets 19-16
Knoblauch and justice had a combined 4 rbis and 2 runs scored (31.5% of
the yankees runs that series)
Roided pitchers pitched 65% of the innings yet only gave up 55% of the
hits and 55% of the runs
roid Yankees 3 wins, 0 losses 30.67 IP, 22 hits; 5 runs; 28 strikeouts; 1.47 era;
this includes clemens, stanton, pettite, neagle
Non roid yankess 16.33 IP; 18 hits;9 runs; 20 strikeouts; 4.96 era;
In game 1 which the yankees won 4-3 Justice had 2 rbis, knoblauch scored
a run and hit the game tying sac fly in the ninth
After his injection in the last 2 games of 2000 (LCS, World Series) Clemens stats were as follows:
17 shutout innings, 24 strikeouts, 1 thrown bat
the fact pettite getting caught in a subsequent year is little excuse, kinda like saying a person who got a dwi only drove drunk once.
Real World Champions, the 2000 New York Mets
hotdog =5 bucks
ticket =70 bucks
The fact that Roger Clemens will have to pay admission to Cooperstown
and will be sitting at home watching Mike Piazza get inducted on the
first ballot (assuming Clemens's heart doesn't explode in the next 5
years)
PRICELESS |
That is the best post in the history of SFN!!
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| J Mets |
a few quick corrections from my last post
roided yankees gave up 43% of the runs (7/16) and 35.7% (5/14) of the earned runs while pitching 65% of the innings so their cheating is even worse than first thought |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by J Mets
a few quick corrections from my last post
roided yankees gave up 43% of the runs (7/16) and 35.7% (5/14) of the earned runs while pitching 65% of the innings so their cheating is even worse than first thought |
Glad to see we have another Mets fan around here. Hope you stick around man. There are only about 4-5 of us, so we need all the help we can get. :cool: |
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| J Mets |
| I'll be around, We can't let this issue die, somehow we have to get this info to gary so he can bring it up on the show |
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| LonghornsNo1 |
| Clearly, Nolan Ryan was a juicer and half the '86 team was flying high on the powder which undoubtedly gave them a little "juice" for their performances (not to mention Nails being now a confirmed 'roid head). I guess you guys can have a consolation series since your only legitimate two should be taken away. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by LonghornsNo1
Clearly, Nolan Ryan was a juicer and half the '86 team was flying high on the powder which undoubtedly gave them a little "juice" for their performances (not to mention Nails being now a confirmed 'roid head). I guess you guys can have a consolation series since your only legitimate two should be taken away. |
Longhorn, I thought you were my boy! :D |
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| LonghornsNo1 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Longhorn, I thought you were my boy! :D |
I am. Just giving you a ration of shit. :D |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by LonghornsNo1
I am. Just giving you a ration of shit. :D |
Ahh, well I can not argue with that shit part :cool: |
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| Bpalm541 |
Quote: Originally posted by mbrin_61
There were more Yankees on the list than anybody. That's factual. To state all 26 Championships are tainted is a big, big, leap. |
There were more Yankees on the list, because the list only had one source... A TRAINER FROM NY!!!! If they had busted a trainer from Boston, you guys would be singing a different tune right now. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Bpalm541
There were more Yankees on the list, because the list only had one source... A TRAINER FROM NY!!!! If they had busted a trainer from Boston, you guys would be singing a different tune right now. |
You are very out of character on this issue. I would never think I agree more with Pussy on this subject then yourself. :cool: |
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| Bpalm541 |
| I dunno King, I guess I've just been burnt out on the steroid talk long before the whole Mitchell report started. I spent all my high school and college years working in a gym. I've seen people take them on numerous occasions and I guess I've just been desensitzed to the whole thing. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by J Mets
Here are some stats from the 2000 series
all 4 games won by the yankees were started by a roid head;
3 of the 4 victories recorded by the yankee pitchers were by cheaters;
Yankees outscored the mets 19-16
Knoblauch and justice had a combined 4 rbis and 2 runs scored (31.5% of
the yankees runs that series)
Roided pitchers pitched 65% of the innings yet only gave up 55% of the
hits and 55% of the runs
roid Yankees 3 wins, 0 losses 30.67 IP, 22 hits; 5 runs; 28 strikeouts; 1.47 era;
this includes clemens, stanton, pettite, neagle
Non roid yankess 16.33 IP; 18 hits;9 runs; 20 strikeouts; 4.96 era;
In game 1 which the yankees won 4-3 Justice had 2 rbis, knoblauch scored
a run and hit the game tying sac fly in the ninth
After his injection in the last 2 games of 2000 (LCS, World Series) Clemens stats were as follows:
17 shutout innings, 24 strikeouts, 1 thrown bat
the fact pettite getting caught in a subsequent year is little excuse, kinda like saying a person who got a dwi only drove drunk once.
Real World Champions, the 2000 New York Mets
hotdog =5 bucks
ticket =70 bucks
The fact that Roger Clemens will have to pay admission to Cooperstown
and will be sitting at home watching Mike Piazza get inducted on the
first ballot (assuming Clemens's heart doesn't explode in the next 5
years)
PRICELESS |
Can't believe I agree with a Mets fan. Give this guy an award. |
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| KMSDEMON |
Quote: Originally posted by Maximus06
Every Yankee in 2000 was on the juice :rolleyes:
Do the right thing MLB! :p |
:D |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by J Mets
Here are some stats from the 2000 series
all 4 games won by the yankees were started by a roid head;
3 of the 4 victories recorded by the yankee pitchers were by cheaters;
Yankees outscored the mets 19-16
Knoblauch and justice had a combined 4 rbis and 2 runs scored (31.5% of
the yankees runs that series)
Roided pitchers pitched 65% of the innings yet only gave up 55% of the
hits and 55% of the runs
roid Yankees 3 wins, 0 losses 30.67 IP, 22 hits; 5 runs; 28 strikeouts; 1.47 era;
this includes clemens, stanton, pettite, neagle
Non roid yankess 16.33 IP; 18 hits;9 runs; 20 strikeouts; 4.96 era;
In game 1 which the yankees won 4-3 Justice had 2 rbis, knoblauch scored
a run and hit the game tying sac fly in the ninth
After his injection in the last 2 games of 2000 (LCS, World Series) Clemens stats were as follows:
17 shutout innings, 24 strikeouts, 1 thrown bat
the fact pettite getting caught in a subsequent year is little excuse, kinda like saying a person who got a dwi only drove drunk once.
Real World Champions, the 2000 New York Mets
hotdog =5 bucks
ticket =70 bucks
The fact that Roger Clemens will have to pay admission to Cooperstown
and will be sitting at home watching Mike Piazza get inducted on the
first ballot (assuming Clemens's heart doesn't explode in the next 5
years)
PRICELESS |
well mets fans suck dick :( |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
well mets fans suck dick :( |
:lol:
ahhhh gotta love it! Priceless!! :rofl: :D |
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| Maximus06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
well mets fans suck dick :( |
Your whole "dynasty" was built on a foundation of lies and cheating. YES Network should change their tag line to the HOME OF CHEATERS |
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| scotsalemfan |
The dynasty was founded a long time before performance enhancers.
New England is the HOME OF CHEATERS.
The Yankees would have to eat a big fine before they rank with the Beli-cheats. |
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| oneldef |
Quote: Originally posted by J Mets
Here are some stats from the 2000 series
all 4 games won by the yankees were started by a roid head;
3 of the 4 victories recorded by the yankee pitchers were by cheaters;
Yankees outscored the mets 19-16
Knoblauch and justice had a combined 4 rbis and 2 runs scored (31.5% of
the yankees runs that series)
Roided pitchers pitched 65% of the innings yet only gave up 55% of the
hits and 55% of the runs
roid Yankees 3 wins, 0 losses 30.67 IP, 22 hits; 5 runs; 28 strikeouts; 1.47 era;
this includes clemens, stanton, pettite, neagle
Non roid yankess 16.33 IP; 18 hits;9 runs; 20 strikeouts; 4.96 era;
In game 1 which the yankees won 4-3 Justice had 2 rbis, knoblauch scored
a run and hit the game tying sac fly in the ninth
After his injection in the last 2 games of 2000 (LCS, World Series) Clemens stats were as follows:
17 shutout innings, 24 strikeouts, 1 thrown bat
the fact pettite getting caught in a subsequent year is little excuse, kinda like saying a person who got a dwi only drove drunk once.
Real World Champions, the 2000 New York Mets
hotdog =5 bucks
ticket =70 bucks
The fact that Roger Clemens will have to pay admission to Cooperstown
and will be sitting at home watching Mike Piazza get inducted on the
first ballot (assuming Clemens's heart doesn't explode in the next 5
years)
PRICELESS |
Wow. I'd be incredibly embarrassed to be a yankee fan. |
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| Bpalm541 |
Quote: Originally posted by scotsalemfan
The dynasty was founded a long time before performance enhancers.
New England is the HOME OF CHEATERS.
The Yankees would have to eat a big fine before they rank with the Beli-cheats. |
Its not worth your time, this is Christmas morning for Yankee-haters. |
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| scotsalemfan |
| But this means nothing to Yankee fans, so who cares. I can still have fun with it. |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by Bpalm541
Its not worth your time, this is Christmas morning for Yankee-haters. |
birthday, christmas, easter, hanukah, martin luther king day all rolled up into one. Dont you know by know the red sox are the cleanest team in baseball. Thats why Theo Epstein knew and asked about Gagnes steroid use and still got him anyway |
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| nuge67 |
| Fact is, they are still CHAMPIONS baby!! fucking yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Fact is, they are still CHAMPIONS baby!! fucking yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
Champion with an *
Congrats buddy :rofl: |
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| scotsalemfan |
Nah, all the Yankee championships are the same. The big bad Yankees stepping on anyone in their way.
It's been 7 years. I want more of those good ol' days. |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You did call Kellen Clemens "the real deal". And you know you said it. I even know when you said it, after the 2nd or 3rd preseason games, when he played a bunch. Your exact quote was that he "looked like the real deal".
Remember also saying how great of a season Thomas Jones was going to have and how the Jets were going to win 10 games,,,
Let me guess, you never said any of that also! :rofl:
P.S Keep deflecting. I know you did not want to face the FACTS that I said in my last post. So keep deflecting :D
P.P.S If it happens so many times, why dont you show me some examples....You cant bullshit a bullshitter buddy!! |
I said he looked good and that I'd have confidence in him if Chad went down w/ an injury.
When did I say Thomas Jones was going to have a grat season? I said I expected about 1,200 yards out of him and guess what? he's on pace for 1200 yards.
I don't need to show you examples, all we need to do is read your posts and it's funny you are complaining about not showing evidence(een though it is in every post) yet you never show me evidence?
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Hey Stump, one more thing.
I could not help but notice out of your last 16 posts, at least 14 of them are responding to me.
Are you a queer that wants to suck my dick or something? Why the hard on for me buddy? |
I honestly don't know why I reply to your posts, I guess I have soft spot in my heart for the mentally challenged an Iwant to do all I can tohelp them. |
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| johnni44 |
Quote: Originally posted by scotsalemfan
The dynasty was founded a long time before performance enhancers.
New England is the HOME OF CHEATERS.
The Yankees would have to eat a big fine before they rank with the Beli-cheats. |
Hey asshat. You can add the Yanks to that Mantle. While we're on the subject show me ANY evidence whatsoever that the Pats cheated during ANY superbowl year........I'm waiting.
Meanwhile, there is PLENTY of evidence to show the Yanks cheated for their Championship season.
Like you, I am a Giants fan but unlike you when it comes to talking football unfortunately you talk out of your ass quite often. Add baseball to that list. |
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| scotsalemfan |
The NFL fined the coach half a million, the owner 250,000 and a first round pick, then destroyed all the tapes the Pats gave them.
No one but Jay Glazer has any proof of any specifics because the NFL didn't release any info. |
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