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oneldef

2B - Chuck Knoblauch *
OF - David Justice *
OF - Glenallen Hill *
DH - Jose Canseco *
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268 Hits, 47 HRs, 198 RBI (and Justice won the ALCS MVP)

SP - Andy Pettite *
SP - Roger Clemens *
SP - Denny Neagle *
RP - Jason Grimsley *
RP - Mike Stanton *
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212 Games Pitched, 664 Innings Pitched, 44 Wins, 499 Ks

Do you think Artie will keep bragging to Gary about how the yankees beat the Mets in the 2000 W.S.?

Wonka23

Yeah, and when Clemens through the bat at Piazza was a classic example of Roid Rage

Maximus06

Mets 2000 Champs :)

Blue Virus

Quote: Originally posted by Wonka23
Yeah, and when Clemens through the bat at Piazza was a classic example of Roid Rage

:bl:

jasondylan

Canseco did shit that season and series for the Yanks. I think he had 1 at bat in the WS.. Chuck and Justice were clutch.

scotsalemfan

This report didn't name every player who was using drugs. Nor did it claim to.
There's not going to be any $750,000 fine and loss of a player.

yambag

Quote: Originally posted by oneldef
2B - Chuck Knoblauch *
OF - David Justice *
OF - Glenallen Hill *
DH - Jose Canseco *
---------------------
268 Hits, 47 HRs, 198 RBI (and Justice won the ALCS MVP)

SP - Andy Pettite *
SP - Roger Clemens *
SP - Denny Neagle *
RP - Jason Grimsley *
RP - Mike Stanton *
---------------------
212 Games Pitched, 664 Innings Pitched, 44 Wins, 499 Ks

Do you think Artie will keep bragging to Gary about how the yankees beat the Mets in the 2000 W.S.?

Petey Arms

chuck could not throw to 1st base so the roids were not helping :cool:

Pussah2

more fans caught balls from knoblauch than the first baseman

yambag

Quote: Originally posted by Petey Arms
chuck could not throw to 1st base so the roids were not helping :cool:

That is a side effect. :D

Case a Beer

Quote: Originally posted by yambag
That is a side effect. :D

:clap:

DestroVega

Hopefully you Red Sox fans can sleep easier tonight with all this, still changes nothing.

oneldef

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
Hopefully you Red Sox fans can sleep easier tonight with all this, still changes nothing.

Thanks for caring about us. I'm sorry your championships are tainted by a BUNCH of documented cheats. Sleep well too my friend.

DestroVega

They aren't in any way tainted when every other team had players who were using the same stuff... Mitchell clearly stated every team had players using... it was all even keel as far as I'm concerned.

LennyD23

i like the leak list of red sox cheaters.

nuge67

The Yanks didn't SMOKE the MEts in the 2000 World Series? What did I miss?

oneldef

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
They aren't in any way tainted when every other team had players who were using the same stuff... Mitchell clearly stated every team had players using... it was all even keel as far as I'm concerned.

We THINK other players cheated. We KNOW the yankees did ;)

mbrin_61

Quote: Originally posted by Maximus06
Mets 2000 Champs :)

Maybe if you're high on crack......

DestroVega

Quote: Originally posted by oneldef
We THINK other players cheated. We KNOW the yankees did ;)

But Mitchell said EVERY team had users... the playing field is fair then.

oneldef

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
But Mitchell said EVERY team had users... the playing field is fair then.

Whatever makes you sleep better. Your team is forever tainted in a major way. :D

nuge67

Quote: Originally posted by oneldef
Whatever makes you sleep better. Your team is forever tainted in a major way. :D

I agree,just like the Pats and Red Sox, no difference

oneldef

Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
I agree,just like the Pats and Red Sox, no difference

The yankee fans are really losing it tonight. It is a riot...you clowns have no clue what to say. You make me laugh little nugie.

Are you going to put an * on your wheelchair or on your cash register? :jj:

elroyjonz

Can't count 2000 anymore. Give the trophy to the Mets!!!

Fla-Flah-Foohi

:jj:

StumpMerrill

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...travesty-1.html

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
But Mitchell said EVERY team had users... the playing field is fair then.

:lol:

Destroy, you sound ridicilous. I can not believe this is actually coming from you.

Find me any other team in 2000 that had even close to as many players that were found to be playing on juice/HGH.

I am not saying the Mets deserve the WS but your championship run is clearly tainted at the minimum.

You can say every team had cheaters, but no other playoff team had 2/4 starting pitchers cheating. As we know, nothing is more important in October then pitching. Half your pitchers were cheating. Not to mention guys like Knoblauch, Justice and the others.

Its tainted man, its tainted. Deep down, I think you agree. Maybe reluctantly but part of you must agree.

DestroVega

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
:lol:

Destroy, you sound ridicilous. I can not believe this is actually coming from you.

Find me any other team in 2000 that had even close to as many players that were found to be playing on juice/HGH.

I am not saying the Mets deserve the WS but your championship run is clearly tainted at the minimum.

You can say every team had cheaters, but no other playoff team had 2/4 starting pitchers cheating. As we know, nothing is more important in October then pitching. Half your pitchers were cheating. Not to mention guys like Knoblauch, Justice and the others.

Its tainted man, its tainted. Deep down, I think you agree. Maybe reluctantly but part of you must agree.

No other team we know about... a team the Yankees beat that year in the playoffs could have had more... I'm not saying there definitely was, but how would we ever know? We won't.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
No other team we know about... a team the Yankees beat that year in the playoffs could have had more... I'm not saying there definitely was, but how would we ever know? We won't.

You are right, we wont. But we do know about the Yankees!

Unless of course they sue, if not, they are guilty.

DestroVega

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You are right, we wont. But we do know about the Yankees!

Unless of course they sue, if not, they are guilty.

Well, even if Pettite and Clemens sue, I still think they are guilty.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
Well, even if Pettite and Clemens sue, I still think they are guilty.

Get outta here...Nobody will be dumb enough to sue if they know they are guilty.

I am sure if everything comes out in the public forum aka courtroom, these guys would look 100x worse.

oneldef

Fine, here is what we do KNOW...

In the 2000 World Series, between Clemens, Pettite, Neagle, and Stanton...

Those 4 guys combined for 29.2 IP and they were credited with 3 Wins in the 5 game World Series. It is a big deal yankee fans...sorry.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by oneldef

In the 2000 World Series, between Clemens, Pettite, Neagle, and Stanton...

Those 4 guys combined for 29.2 IP and they were credited with 3 Wins in the 5 game World Series. It is a big deal yankee fans...sorry.

I sware to god this is not coming from the Yankee hater deep inside of me.

How the fuck can anybody argue with what your saying? I really just dont get it!!

oneldef

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I sware to god this is not coming from the Yankee hater deep inside of me.

How the fuck can anybody argue with what your saying? I really just dont get it!!

It's true. I do hate the yankees and I'm getting a kick out of all of this. But I'm sure there were tons of other players on PEDs and the yankees clearly didn't own the market on cheating. They look the worst becuase Mitchell's group caught a dealer and a trainer from New York. But when you look at the numbers for that season and that World Series...it's pretty damning. I don't know how you can justify it as a yankee fan.

scotsalemfan

They argue because the list is random, based on who would talk with them.
Canseco said he can't believe A-Rod is not on the list.
There are a lot of guys who were supplied by people who didn't give up their names.
Or weren't known to be suppliers by the commision.

LennyD23

you don't know who was using and when.

prove it. this report can't prove it.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
you don't know who was using and when.

prove it. this report can't prove it.

As I said in the other thread. If this report can not prove what they are claiming, many of these players are going to be even richer after they sue the shirts off of MLB!!

Time will tell. If they dont sue, it sorts of speaks for itself.

LennyD23

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
As I said in the other thread. If this report can not prove what they are claiming, many of these players are going to be even richer after they sue the shirts off of MLB!!

Time will tell. If they dont sue, it sorts of speaks for itself.

not true. many of these guys don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to clear their names and live a comfortable life. why risk losing their modest fortunes on clearing their name? most of these guys aren't even considered for HOF, it's not worth it for Lenny Dykstra to clear his name.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
not true. many of these guys don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to clear their names and live a comfortable life. why risk losing their modest fortunes on clearing their name? most of these guys aren't even considered for HOF, it's not worth it for Lenny Dykstra to clear his name.

You do not need any money to clear your name. If you have a case, the lawyer will take the case for free and then just take a percentage of the verdict. Forget about the publicity the lawyer would get from the case.

If Larry Birkhead can get a free lawyer, any player in the Mitchell report can get a free lawyer. There is not enough $$ in the world to pay these lawyers for the publicity they will get.

LennyD23

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You do not need any money to clear your name. If you have a case, the lawyer will take the case for free and then just take a percentage of the verdict. Forget about the publicity the lawyer would get from the case.

If Larry Birkhead can get a free lawyer, any player in the Mitchell report can get a free lawyer. There is not enough $$ in the world to pay these lawyers for the publicity they will get.

do you live in a dream world? you don't just get ANY lawyer for this to sue the MLB. this is not an opportunity to make money for those who are innocent, whites.

roger clemens is the first mention of players fighting it, b/c he can afford it.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
do you live in a dream world? you don't just get ANY lawyer for this to sue the MLB. this is not an opportunity to make money for those who are innocent, whites.

roger clemens is the first mention of players fighting it, b/c he can afford it.

Dude, you do not need any lawyer. You will get a top notch lawyer. Just like Larry Birkhead had a top notch lawyer, for free. That was also a legal fight IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. I think he can find 1000 GREAT laywers who would take the case for free.

Well to prove your case anyway, lets see if Roger sues. If he wins, then maybe you are right. If he does not sue or sue's and loses, then I guess you are wrong.

LennyD23

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Dude, you do not need any lawyer. You will get a top notch lawyer. Just like Larry Birkhead had a top notch lawyer, for free. That was also a legal fight IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. I think he can find 1000 GREAT laywers who would take the case for free.

Well to prove your case anyway, lets see if Roger sues. If he wins, then maybe you are right. If he does not sue or sue's and loses, then I guess you are wrong.

why is the onus on the players, whites? this is america, innocent until PROVEN guilty.

i don't care to watch this shit and how it unfolds. i'll be watching games instead.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
why is the onus on the players, whites? this is america, innocent until PROVEN guilty.

i don't care to watch this shit and how it unfolds. i'll be watching games instead.

I think we know come April, this will all die down and we will all be watching games. If people are not breaking records, this talk is going to die down big time once pitchers and catchers report. However, I think last year was a special circumstance because Bonds was breaking the record and nobody is more attached to steroids then him.

otto02

Quote: Originally posted by oneldef
The yankee fans are really losing it tonight. It is a riot...you clowns have no clue what to say. You make me laugh little nugie.

Are you going to put an * on your wheelchair or on your cash register? :jj:

Did'nt see any important Red Sox on that list. I know you were hoping for Papi. Too fuckin' bad, huh?

StumpMerrill

First off, we all know many more playes did. I am sure more Yankees and more Mets. Secondly, if we are using the Mitchell report as gospel then it's easy to argue w/ wha the oher poster has written since only Clemens and Neagle were reported to have used during the 2000 season and Neagle was useless so just one of our important players used. We won 2 WS the previous 4 years w/o Clemens, we would have won in 2000 w/o him.

The only thing the Mitchell report tells us for sure is the Mets can't even win a Championship when they cheat.

Hendry

I love this shit. Like no members or the 04 or 07 Sox did anything. :jj:

Keep talking, cunt.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
First off, we all know many more playes did. I am sure more Yankees and more Mets. Secondly, if we are using the Mitchell report as gospel then it's easy to argue w/ wha the oher poster has written since only Clemens and Neagle were reported to have used during the 2000 season and Neagle was useless so just one of our important players used. We won 2 WS the previous 4 years w/o Clemens, we would have won in 2000 w/o him.

The only thing the Mitchell report tells us for sure is the Mets can't even win a Championship when they cheat.

Thanks again dude. I really appreciate you backing me up and showing EVEYRBODY how clueless you are. I could not have asked for a better job. I do not even think my mother can make me look as good as you. For that, I say thanks!!

Here are the players from the 2000 season: (From a previos post, source:oneldef)
2B - Chuck Knoblauch *
OF - David Justice *
OF - Glenallen Hill *
DH - Jose Canseco *
---------------------
268 Hits, 47 HRs, 198 RBI (and Justice won the ALCS MVP)

SP - Andy Pettite *
SP - Roger Clemens *
SP - Denny Neagle *
RP - Jason Grimsley *
RP - Mike Stanton *
---------------------
212 Games Pitched, 664 Innings Pitched, 44 Wins, 499 Ks

I also love how you say the Mitchell report is not the bible. But then you say how Stanton never used juice beofre the 2003 season. Even though it is a known fact he asked about it years before. Isnt there a chance he was getting from somebody else? Oh yeah, of course not. The Mitchell report is the bible when you want it to speak favorably for you, it is bullshit when it rats out 9 players who played on a championship team.

Again, thanks. You make me look like a genius(like normal) :D

StumpMerrill

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Thanks again dude. I really appreciate you backing me up and showing EVEYRBODY how clueless you are. I could not have asked for a better job. I do not even think my mother can make me look as good as you. For that, I say thanks!!

Here are the players from the 2000 season: (From a previos post, source:oneldef)
2B - Chuck Knoblauch *
OF - David Justice *
OF - Glenallen Hill *
DH - Jose Canseco *
---------------------
268 Hits, 47 HRs, 198 RBI (and Justice won the ALCS MVP)

SP - Andy Pettite *
SP - Roger Clemens *
SP - Denny Neagle *
RP - Jason Grimsley *
RP - Mike Stanton *
---------------------
212 Games Pitched, 664 Innings Pitched, 44 Wins, 499 Ks

I also love how you say the Mitchell report is not the bible. But then you say how Stanton never used juice beofre the 2003 season. Even though it is a known fact he asked about it years before. Isnt there a chance he was getting from somebody else? Oh yeah, of course not. The Mitchell report is the bible when you want it to speak favorably for you, it is bullshit when it rats out 9 players who played on a championship team.

Again, thanks. You make me look like a genius(like normal) :D

Quote: Knoblauch, the report said, first bought human growth hormone in 2001, after the Yanks' last title. Justice reportedly didn't meet Kirk Radomski until after the 2000 Subway Series. Pettitte used HGH in 2002, the report says. Stanton, the report states, bought HGH from Radomski in 2003, when he was a member of the Mets.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...travesty-1.html

keep ranting, it's entertaining reading clueless posts.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...travesty-1.html

keep ranting, it's entertaining reading clueless posts.

Clueless posts?

Werent you just saying how the Mitchell report is not a "gospel".

But now you have to quote it....Which is it?

See how easy this is for me!!

KingOfAllWhites

Hey Stump. Thanks for the article. This is my favorite part.

I guess you agree since you posted the article.

StumpMerrill

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Clueless posts?

Werent you just saying how the Mitchell report is not a "gospel".

But now you have to quote it....Which is it?

See how easy this is for me!!

I think the Mitchell report is a joke only exposing 80 or do players BUT you anti-yankee guys believe it's the ruth b/c somehow you believe it taints our Championships. using the Mitchell report it only shows 1 key guy using at the time we were winning and that guy, Clemens, stunk in '99 so only 2000 was affected and we won w/o Roger in '96 an '98 I'm sure we would have won w/o him in '99 and '00.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by StumpMerrill
I think the Mitchell report is a joke only exposing 80 or do players BUT you anti-yankee guys believe it's the ruth b/c somehow you believe it taints our Championships. using the Mitchell report it only shows 1 key guy using at the time we were winning and that guy, Clemens, stunk in '99 so only 2000 was affected and we won w/o Roger in '96 an '98 I'm sure we would have won w/o him in '99 and '00.

How are you so sure?

Only a Yankee fan can assume that.

Thats why to everybody else, you guys have a *

:rofl:

How do you like those cookies buddy!

HAHAHAHA

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