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| nedmark61 |
Floyd Mayweather Jr., the world's No. 1 boxer, is strongly considering a revolutionary jump to mixed martial arts under a deal being discussed with Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban.
Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser and best friend, told ESPN.com Friday night that the five-division world champion, who generated 3.25 million pay-per-view buys and more than $200 million in revenue in two mega fights in 2007, came away from a Thursday meeting with Cuban giving serious thought to taking his game and considerable drawing power to MMA.
"It's definitely something he is interested in, and when Floyd makes his move, obviously it's going to be a mega event," Ellerbe said. "We don't have a timetable. Floyd is taking some time off, but Floyd understands what is involved. You have to take time to go out and understand what you're getting involved in, and he's ready to do that. But it's something he's definitely interested in doing.
"Mark Cuban is a very successful business man and has some very, very successful business ventures that we've discussed. We're looking to do a lot of business with Mark. He's a great guy, and we had a great meeting. Doing an MMA event with him is most definitely something we are looking at, among many things we are looking at doing with Mark Cuban."
Mayweather's interest in participating in an MMA event was sparked after he struck up a friendship with Cuban during their participation this season as contestants on the ABC reality series "Dancing with the Stars."
Cuban was Mayweather's guest at the fight and even carried two of his championship belts into the ring before he knocked out England's Ricky Hatton to retain the welterweight world championship Dec. 8 in Las Vegas.
Mayweather and Cuban were together again Thursday in Las Vegas, where they met to discuss various business ventures, including Mayweather participating in an MMA event.
A few boxers, such as former heavyweight contenders Ray Mercer and Frans Botha, have attempted to compete in mixed martial arts with little success. Mayweather's entrance would bring it to another level, especially at a time when the sports have been pitted against each other by fans and media -- MMA as the hotshot newcomer trying to overtake the century-old, more traditional sweet science.
One of Cuban's many business interests is ownership of HDNet Fights, a fledgling mixed martial arts promotional company whose bouts are aired on Cuban's HDNet. Cuban promoted his second event Dec. 15 in Dallas.
"Floyd is considering fighting with HDNet Fights," Cuban told ESPN.com. "We are going to let him visit some gyms to talk to some folks about what it would take to learn. He knows it won't be easy. But he is getting involved with MMA and HDNet Fights one way or another. He is pumped about it. He wants to go on to the next big thing. Floyd is a brilliant marketer. He follows the money."
Indeed, Mayweather, like Cuban, knows how to make money. Mayweather, 30, won the year's two biggest fights, a decision against Oscar De La Hoya in May in a fight that shattered all boxing revenue records and a 10th-round knockout of Hatton that did 850,000 buys and $47 million in television revenue on HBO PPV.
Mayweather-De La Hoya, with 2.4 million buys, set the all-time PPV record. Mayweather-Hatton was the biggest PPV fight in history not involving De La Hoya or heavyweights Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield.
Mayweather earned about $50 million for the two fights.
"If I said there's a guaranteed $30 million payday, Floyd would be lacing them up," Cuban said, optimistic that Mayweather would eventually participate in an MMA match. "If not, I could see him working to train and develop and invest in MMA fighters, knowing the upside. He can teach them how to be a better boxer and add to their other skills."
After each of his last three fights, Mayweather has talked about retirement or, at least, an extended break. Ellerbe said Mayweather is on vacation now but that when he returns, they'll discuss the prospect of an MMA bout in more detail.
"Floyd is about taking on challenges," Ellerbe said. "This ain't some kind of prank. That is one of many things we've talked about with Mark. Floyd would have to take time to really understand it, but it is most definitely something he is interested in."
Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer. Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com.
WOW!!!!!!! thoughts on this little tid bit??? |
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| Mynd4life |
| He would get whipped under MMA Rules, he would get smoked. |
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| Vernon Dozier |
Quote: Originally posted by Mynd4life
He would get whipped under MMA Rules, he would get smoked. |
I know , wouldn't it be great?!?! |
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| Apoc13 |
| mayweather has nothing to gain....maybe money, but he's already got money...i'd be shocked if he did this but it certainly would be a huge event |
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| yamoron |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
mayweather has nothing to gain....maybe money, but he's already got money...i'd be shocked if he did this but it certainly would be a huge event |
I agree. Most boxers don't fare well in MMA. Maybe his ego is bigger than his brain, and he wants to break the stereotype of boxers failing at MMA. |
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| yourbuddymitch |
| you think he would get whipped? He is fast as fuck, but those rings are so much smaller. |
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| oneldef |
| It will NEVER happen. It would be great if it did...but it won't happen. |
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| Mynd4life |
Quote: Originally posted by yourbuddymitch
you think he would get whipped? He is fast as fuck, but those rings are so much smaller. |
Who gives a shit if he is fast, he has no takedown skills and is not well versed in anything other than Boxing, once one of those guys takes his little ass down they will ground and pound and submit his ass in no time. |
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| Apoc13 |
they were just talking about it on espn radio...saying he shouldn't do it...he'd get his ass kicked
maybe if everybody tells him he'll get his ass kicked his ego will take over and he'll do it |
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| slayerized |
| i would love to see danzig kill him haha |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| I agree, WILL NEVER HAPPEN!! |
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| Mynd4life |
| This little Nig Nog was the one who opened up his trap about a year ago saying UFC Fighters were nothing and that he could go into UFC and dominate but that UFC Guys couldn't come into Boxing circles and do anything. He wouldn't even last a round with a decent UFC Guy. |
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| nedmark61 |
| I wouldn't want that mother fucker hitting me with 4 oz. gloves on..... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Mynd4life
This little Nig Nog was the one who opened up his trap about a year ago saying UFC Fighters were nothing and that he could go into UFC and dominate but that UFC Guys couldn't come into Boxing circles and do anything. He wouldn't even last a round with a decent UFC Guy. |
How dumb would you feel if Mayweather actually wins? :rolleyes: |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by yamoron
I agree. Most boxers don't fare well in MMA. Maybe his ego is bigger than his brain, and he wants to break the stereotype of boxers failing at MMA. |
He would need a minimum of about a year and a half training at a really good camp, mostly on grappling and jiu-jitsu defense, and THEN he would be able to compete in MMA ... Not against somebody the caliber of BJ Penn or Sean Sherk...but a lower level guy absolutely.
Either way, if this actually happens it will be the death knell for Boxing |
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| mobsmith |
| MMA is for red necks :kkk: |
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| Mawnster |
| Boxing used to be a great sport.....now its come down to this. :( |
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| sirartemuslange |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
I wouldn't want that mother fucker hitting me with 4 oz. gloves on..... |
Mayweather has issues with the bones in his hands. His hands could never take the abuse with those small gloves on. |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by sirartemuslange
Mayweather has issues with the bones in his hands. His hands could never take the abuse with those small gloves on. |
fuck that... it wouldn't take too many hits to knock a guy out.... the minute he starts MMA he is already the best striker with his hands bar none... no one in boxing is in his league.... there is no one in MMA that could keep up with his hands, especially at that weight he would be fighting at... |
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| sirartemuslange |
| Sure, he could absolutely knock a guy out with one punch. Then break his hand AGAIN. Did you watch the HBO shows? He is the first to admit that the bones in his hands are tweaked. |
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| OliveBlackok |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
He would need a minimum of about a year and a half training at a really good camp, mostly on grappling and jiu-jitsu defense, and THEN he would be able to compete in MMA ... Not against somebody the caliber of BJ Penn or Sean Sherk...but a lower level guy absolutely.
Either way, if this actually happens it will be the death knell for Boxing |
KImbo didn't need a year at a good camp to succeed.ranted hes only had two mma fights but he dominated both. |
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| sirartemuslange |
Quote: Originally posted by OliveBlackok
KImbo didn't need a year at a good camp to succeed.ranted hes only had two mma fights but he dominated both. |
He fought 2 clowns. Kimbo needs more training b4 he fights a real pro. He might be great, who knows, but he has got to fight a real talent if he wants to get the big $$. |
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| AcquiringSignal |
First off I think this is a GREAT Idea.. Floyd has some balls, but he will make a TON of money doing this.. Floyd is the Poster Boy of rippin on MMA! Great Promotion :)
Ok with his weight it would have to be someone more in the WEC (probably)
One thing I have notice with MMA fighters, their basic boxing is something lacking! Simple jabs could set up allot of stuff... so I think Floyd see's this too! Speed and hoping with no gloves his balance and power will stun the MMA guy so he can quick finish him.
I dont think that will happen... because the gloves are to different, the dirty boxing, Floyd is fast but he isnt going to stay on his feet for 5 minutes of every round. Leg kicks, getting elbowed, then if it hits the ground he is done!
Heres the Fighter in his Weight Class...
Urijah Faber
Floyd Mayweather
Fuck that would sell 4 Million PPV Buys!!! Floyd promoting how much he hates MMA, EVERY MMA Fan would buy this PPV to see Floyd get his ass kicked - plus Boxing Fans would be interested in seeing the BEST Boxer try to beat MMA's Best.
Best vs Best!
Urijah Faber
VS
Floyd Mayweather
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| beavisoncrack |
| He always struck me as a "down low" brother who is looking for some frot action. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by OliveBlackok
KImbo didn't need a year at a good camp to succeed.ranted hes only had two mma fights but he dominated both. |
Yeah but the first fight was against a guy with NO mma training at all, whereas the 2nd was against a D-Level fighter...Kimbo isnt looking to contend for the UFC heavyweight belt in a month or so. I highly doubt Mayweather is going to want to start out fighting some Rage In The Cage fighter who is 1-3
At this point, Urijah Faber or Kid Yamamoto would absolutely destroy Mayweather.
He would also have to completely change his footwork, a big part of boxing, as it wont work in mma....He will be taken down at fucking will
A good fight to start him with would be Malaipet. Another great striker (Muay Thai world champ - from Thailand) who has very, very little ground skills. I think the leg kicks will drop Mayweather almost instantly, but it would be interesting to watch. |
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| baghead |
| i hope somebody beats him to death in the octagon.:mm: |
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| nedmark61 |
| let's face it... he's gonna go in there with a scrub with no ground game... he's not gonna fight penn or faber or anyone else that can take it to the ground worth a fuck.... they'll stick him with the liddel or jardine of lightweights..... |
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| AcquiringSignal |
I think Floyd has to do a One Shot fight.. no tune ups, because he will loose before they can scam the public with a fun/great ppv!
No amount of fights are going to help him. This is a PPV gimmick.
Brock Lesnor is actually trying to be MMA. Floyd is just pushing buttons and trying to get allot of money for it.
Marko Cro Cop has been exposed, their is no buzz now, because he was exposed and they cant make money off him. But if they had him come in and just fight for the title, maybe one tune up because he knows the sport and quickly try to make money..... I think Rampage Jackson was pushed like this because Dana White assumed Ice Man would kill him. Thats why they put him in there sooooo fast!
I'd go after Champion vs Champion gimmick with Floyd, no amount of training isnt going to help. Its more the circus of it all, the old school don king style of buzz freak show of it all. |
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| Monty Burns |
Quote: Originally posted by AcquiringSignal
Marko Cro Cop has been exposed, their is no buzz now, because he was exposed and they cant make money off him. But if they had him come in and just fight for the title, maybe one tune up because he knows the sport and quickly try to make money..... I think Rampage Jackson was pushed like this because Dana White assumed Ice Man would kill him. Thats why they put him in there sooooo fast! |
Its Mirko not Marko :D Cro Cop is still a top ten HW and I hardly think he has been exposed. In MMA anyone can get caught. Cro Cop admitted that he didnt take into account training in an octagon versus a ring. He also had fucked up nose that hampered his breathing. Lets see how he does in his next fight before you write him off.
Rampage was pushed because it was the last loss that Lidell had to avenge and it made sense for that fight to headline their biggest card of the year. I dont think Dana assumed Chuck was going to kill Rampage. If anything Rampage exposed Chuck's weaknesses. Rampage was far from a can going into that fight and he has since proven that he may very well be the best LHW in MMA |
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| AcquiringSignal |
Quote: Originally posted by Monty Burns
Its Mirko not Marko :D Cro Cop is still a top ten HW and I hardly think he has been exposed. In MMA anyone can get caught. Cro Cop admitted that he didnt take into account training in an octagon versus a ring. He also had fucked up nose that hampered his breathing. Lets see how he does in his next fight before you write him off.
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He hasnt won yet in UFC! He lost again and he had a octagon to train in. The guy old and has been exposed. |
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| Player 1 |
Quote: Originally posted by mobsmith
MMA is for red necks :kkk: |
AND FAGGOTS :rs: |
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| Monty Burns |
Quote: Originally posted by AcquiringSignal
He hasnt won yet in UFC! He lost again and he had a octagon to train in. The guy old and has been exposed. |
I'm going to guess that you are new to watching MMA?? |
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| tedeso |
| a boxer on his back is funny but like tim sylivia he has a punchers chance |
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| Matt Serra |
| Frankly, at 30 years old, I seriously doubt Mayweather can pick up the necessary grappling skills to compete in straight up mma. He's certainly a draw. Maybe he could compete in some kind of modified mma, e.g., no striking on the ground and quick stand up. Like the rules Pride allowed Crocop to compete under when he first joined the organization. |
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