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| Badhandhaney |
| Will The Mets or Yankees make any big trades or signings before the season starts? Can the Yankees really rely on guys like Giambi and Mussina? Can the Mets really rely on Alou and El Duque? |
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| timdawg6 |
| Will you stop making shit threads? |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by timdawg6
Will you stop making shit threads? |
You shouldn't answer a question with a question. If you don't like a thread I start, guess what: YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT! And I have more news : YOU DON'T HAVE TO POST EITHER! |
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| timdawg6 |
| Less Threads more school work |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by timdawg6
Less Threads more school work |
Okay, Okay, I post to take my mind of academics this is true. I also OBSESS over baseball, and can't stop thinking about it. You seem pretty damn sports smart, so why don't you just answer the thread? I would actually like to hear what you think. |
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| timdawg6 |
Just busting your chops its too early to talk about baseball wait til the bowl season and nfl is over.
obviously the yanks will get more pitching |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by timdawg6
Just busting your chops its too early to talk about baseball wait til the bowl season and nfl is over.
obviously the yanks will get more pitching |
You mean like Latroy Hawkins? Who'd they pick up last year, Igawa? Yankees blow. |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
You mean like Latroy Hawkins? Who'd they pick up last year, Igawa? Yankees blow. |
Hey look, another bandwagon Red Sox fan. Oh, yes I'm sure you will write back telling us all about how you were a Sox fan your entire life, but nobody cares. Theo Epstien is the best thing to ever happen to that team, they have finally woke up and learned to put the revenue back on the field, just like you Sox fans bashed the Yanks for doing for years. Welcome to the club, and thanks for the competition and making the AL East fun. You can probably expect to win another division before The Yankees get rid of Brian Cashman and start signing some veteran pitching. |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
Hey look, another bandwagon Red Sox fan. Oh, yes I'm sure you will write back telling us all about how you were a Sox fan you're entire life, but nobody cares. Theo Epstien is the best thing to ever happen to that team, they have finally woke up and learned to put the revenue back on the field, just like you Sox fans bashed the Yanks for doing for years. Welcome to the club, and thanks for the competition and making the AL East fun. You can probably expect to win another division before The Yankees get rid of Brian Cashman and start signing some veteran pitching. |
Go suck another cock, you Yankee fag. |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
Go suck another cock, you Yankee fag. |
What a thoughtful and witty response. You must have majored in literature in college. You have impressed me with that statement, and won me over. I am going to stop rooting for the Yankees now because you disapprove.
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
What a thoughtful and witty response. You must have majored in literature in college. You have impressed me with that statement, and won me over. I am going to stop rooting for the Yankees now because you disapprove.
Don't worry your little brain, I have already worked for the Mets front office, and I treated my position with great respect regardless of my love for the NY Yankees. I will be graduating from law school in 2011, and I'm sure I won't see you when I am working for a team or even the Commissioner's office. Happy New Year. |
Just what the world needs, another lawyer. You elitist fuck. |
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| otto02 |
| I've seen your myspace page. Beautiful? You really are an asshole. Just for the record, I've been a Redsox fan long before you were an itch in your Daddy's pants, loser. |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
I've seen your myspace page. Beautiful? You really are an asshole. Just for the record, I've been a Redsox fan long before you were an itch in your Daddy's pants, loser. |
I'm glad you liked my Myspace page. As far as being an elitist, I have never met an elitist who enlisted in the Navy at 18 years old. I also never met one who worked for the Sheriff's Dept for 2 years. Nice try. I have been a Yankees fan since roughly 2001, although I identified with the team since I was serving in Japan. I have never watched a Championship besides on DVD, so I am still waiting to witness one. Hopefully 2008 will be the year. I envy the Boston Championships I had to sit through, and I attribute it to Epstein. Hopefully the Yanks will get a new GM soon, because Red Sox fans are getting a little too arrogant. Happy New Year. |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
I'm glad you liked my Myspace page. As far as being an elitist, I have never met an elitist who enlisted in the Navy at 18 years old. I also never met one who worked for the Sheriff's Dept for 2 years. Nice try. I have been a Yankees fan since roughly 2001, although I identified with the team since I was serving in Japan. I have never watched a Championship besides on DVD, so I am still waiting to witness one. Hopefully 2008 will be the year. I envy the Boston Championships I had to sit through, and I attribute it to Epstein. Hopefully the Yanks will get a new GM soon, because Red Sox fans are getting a little too arrogant. Happy New Year. |
A Yankee fan for a whole 7 years? You should'nt say anyone is a johnny come lately, pal. You define it. |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
I'm glad you liked my Myspace page. As far as being an elitist, I have never met an elitist who enlisted in the Navy at 18 years old. I also never met one who worked for the Sheriff's Dept for 2 years. Nice try. I have been a Yankees fan since roughly 2001, although I identified with the team since I was serving in Japan. I have never watched a Championship besides on DVD, so I am still waiting to witness one. Hopefully 2008 will be the year. I envy the Boston Championships I had to sit through, and I attribute it to Epstein. Hopefully the Yanks will get a new GM soon, because Red Sox fans are getting a little too arrogant. Happy New Year. |
You're so noble, dude. |
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| welkdude |
| Maybe this is the year the Yankees will go back to relying on their farm system |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by welkdude
Maybe this is the year the Yankees will go back to relying on their farm system |
Finally someone OTHER than Otto. I hate when these threads become pissing contests. |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
You're so noble, dude. |
Okay, I don't know what you want from me. I should have never served. I should have just worked at the local movie theater AND been a Yanks fan my whole life. I have sat through 7 seasons with no Championships, yes. I enjoy the games at Yankee stadium, and I consider myself a true fan. I wish I could be as cool as you. P.S. I'm moving to Boston, and I will NOT wear Yankee gear to Fenway unless the Yanks are playing, but I WILL wear it out and about. I suppose guys like you will try to start shit with me, but luckily I can defend myself. Go hide behind your computer. |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
Okay, I don't know what you want from me. I should have never served. I should have just worked at the local movie theater AND been a Yanks fan my whole life. I have sat through 7 seasons with no Championships, yes. I enjoy the games at Yankee stadium, and I consider myself a true fan. I wish I could be as cool as you. P.S. I'm moving to Boston, and I will NOT wear Yankee gear to Fenway unless the Yanks are playing, but I WILL wear it out and about. I suppose guys like you will try to start shit with me, but luckily I can defend myself. Go hide behind your computer. |
Ooooh, tough guy. Watch out Beantown, Brian is coming. |
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| otto02 |
| Hey asshole, you started this shit when YOU accused ME of jumping on the bandwagon. Don't play the martyr now, you stupid fuckin' loser. |
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| oneldef |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
Hey asshole, you started this shit when YOU accused ME of jumping on the bandwagon. Don't play the martyr now, you stupid fuckin' loser. |
You're right Otto...this guy is clearly a fucking clown. Go back to the sherrif's department and get a gun...then go shoot yourself.
"A yankee fan since 2001" :rofl:. Please stop posting jerkoff. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
Hopefully the Yanks will get a new GM soon, because Red Sox fans are getting a little too arrogant. Happy New Year. |
Yeah...Cashman is the lone problem :rolleyes: |
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| woogayo |
| thread of the year so far |
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| Badhandhaney |
Okay, I love all the tough guy ePosturing, but seriously I started this thread in Ferrall because I want to hear thoughtful comments about NY pitching, not "Yankees Suck", "Mets Suck", "Boston Rules" etc. We all know that the Red Sox are currently world champions. Congratulations, I believe I respectfully acknowledged that fact more than once. That being said, I would prefer Ferrall fans make some comments pertaining to the thread.
Yes, I believe Cashman is a HUGE problem when you look at the pitching he has wasted roster spots on... for example:
Carl Pavano
Esteban Loaiza
Kyle Farnsworth
JAret Wright
Javier Vasquez
Kevin Brown
Kei Igawa
And countless others.
The guy is great at bringing up solid position players, and signing terrific guys to play every day, but when it comes to pitching, he fails miserably. |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by oneldef
You're right Otto...this guy is clearly a fucking clown. Go back to the sherrif's department and get a gun...then go shoot yourself.
"A yankee fan since 2001" :rofl:. Please stop posting jerkoff. |
Wow, thanks for the hateful remark. I guess you Red Sox fans are ganging up on me to show how classy you are. What did I ever do to you? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
The guy is a Penn State fan...Isnt that enough suffering for one person?
I mean he had another whole year of Joe Pa in front of him! :D |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
The guy is a Penn State fan...Isnt that enough suffering for one person?
I mean he had another whole year of Joe Pa in front of him! :D |
I'm a Penn State Senior, and I'm glad the football season is over. I am NOT a fan of football at all, but I do enjoy the basketball games. I go there for the education, NOT the football. Unfortunately for my classmates Penn State football SUCKS, and they have a joke for a quarterback, I feel sorry for the fans. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
I'm a Penn State Senior, and I'm glad the football season is over. I am NOT a fan of football at all, but I do enjoy the basketball games. I go there for the education, NOT the football. Unfortunately for my classmates Penn State football SUCKS, and they have a joke for a quarterback, I feel sorry for the fans. |
You should worry more about that freshman pussy and less about your education :D |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You should worry more about that freshman pussy and less about your education :D |
Hahah, I like how you think King.
Any thoughts about the Mets or Yankees needs in the starting rotations or bullpens? |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
Hey asshole, you started this shit when YOU accused ME of jumping on the bandwagon. Don't play the martyr now, you stupid fuckin' loser. |
So we can stop the pissing contest now? I believe I have been as respectful as any Yankee fan can be of your Red Sox, GM, and latest 2 championships. We can agree to disagree. I would actually like to hear constructive ideas about starting pitching if you would like to contribute to the thread I will happily read your posts. Lets make this thing a NY pitching thread instead of calling each other names? I apologize for the original "bandwagon" comment, cut me some slack it was New Years Eve. Truce? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
Hahah, I like how you think King.
Any thoughts about the Mets or Yankees needs in the starting rotations or bullpens? |
I am a Mets fan so I will comment on them. Does not take a genius to know what they need. At least one front line starter(just like the need of 90% of MLB), they also need a descent 4th starter who can EAT INNINGS. He does not need to win 15 games, but he needs to be able to keep his team in the game and EAT INNINGS. I also think the Mets need some bullpen help. However again, 90% of the league needs a reliable bullpen guy. I think with guys like Sanchez and Padilla coming back. Along with guys like Feliciano and Smith. There is a chance they can have a better bullpen just from within the team.
However they are not winning anything with their current group of starters. Something needs to change or there will be more of the same. Again though, 90% of baseball is in the same situation :rolleyes: |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I am a Mets fan so I will comment on them. Does not take a genius to know what they need. At least one front line starter(just like the need of 90% of MLB), they also need a descent 4th starter who can EAT INNINGS. He does not need to win 15 games, but he needs to be able to keep his team in the game and EAT INNINGS. I also think the Mets need some bullpen help. However again, 90% of the league needs a reliable bullpen guy. I think with guys like Sanchez and Padilla coming back. Along with guys like Feliciano and Smith. There is a chance they can have a better bullpen just from within the team.
However they are not winning anything with their current group of starters. Something needs to change or there will be more of the same. Again though, 90% of baseball is in the same situation :rolleyes: |
I agree, I see striking similarities between the 06-07 Mets and 06-07 Tigers. Let me explain:
06 Mets and Tigers saw success for the first time in a few years, built on strong starting pitching, adequate offense and great bullpen. Both teams went deep in the post season, yet in 07 they had similar issues:
Loss of Ace: Kenny Rogers and Pedro Martinez both missed most of the season
Loss of intimidating bullpen staff member: Joel Zumaya and Duaner Sanchez have been plagued with injuries
Signed injury prone outfielder: Sheffield and Alou both got hurt and missed time
Even though Magglio Ordenez and David Wright put their respective teams on their backs, they failed to make the post-season.
Can you think of other similarities? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
I agree, I see striking similarities between the 06-07 Mets and 06-07 Tigers. Let me explain:
06 Mets and Tigers saw success for the first time in a few years, built on strong starting pitching, adequate offense and great bullpen. Both teams went deep in the post season, yet in 07 they had similar issues:
Loss of Ace: Kenny Rogers and Pedro Martinez both missed most of the season
Loss of intimidating bullpen staff member: Joel Zumaya and Duaner Sanchez have been plagued with injuries
Signed injury prone outfielder: Sheffield and Alou both got hurt and missed time
Even though Magglio Ordenez and David Wright put their respective teams on their backs, they failed to make the post-season.
Can you think of other similarities? |
Unfortunately I think the biggest difference is managing.
Detroit has a proven winner in Leyland who has always gotten the very best from his players. Randolph has now showin he can do 1/10 the job that Leyland can.
That is what worries me.. |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Unfortunately I think the biggest difference is managing.
Detroit has a proven winner in Leyland who has always gotten the very best from his players. Randolph has now showin he can do 1/10 the job that Leyland can.
That is what worries me.. |
I like Randolph, and I think he is a great leader. Leyland had AS BAD a season as Wilie in 07.
What worries me about the Mets is the lack of a blockbuster like the Cabrera/Willis deal in Detroit, and lets not forget Renteria signed to play short.
When will Omar make some big moves like this? Church, Schnieder and the addition by subtraction of Loduca, Milledge and Estrada(who never even lace up his spikes) doesn't cut it. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| There is no question the Mets can not win a WS as currently constructed. I do not think any true fan or person in the Mets front office would contest that, when asked that question in private. |
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| Badhandhaney |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
There is no question the Mets can not win a WS as currently constructed. I do not think any true fan or person in the Mets front office would contest that, when asked that question in private. |
So what moves do you suggest? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
So what moves do you suggest? |
Pitching, pitching and........MORE PITCHING!
You can never have enough!! |
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| mbrin_61 |
| Mike Pelfrey is the answer. No need to get any additional pitching...... :) |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by Badhandhaney
So we can stop the pissing contest now? I believe I have been as respectful as any Yankee fan can be of your Red Sox, GM, and latest 2 championships. We can agree to disagree. I would actually like to hear constructive ideas about starting pitching if you would like to contribute to the thread I will happily read your posts. Lets make this thing a NY pitching thread instead of calling each other names? I apologize for the original "bandwagon" comment, cut me some slack it was New Years Eve. Truce? |
Ok, Chief, here a major problem as I see it. Hank is in charge. What has this clown ever done to suggest that he can run a ballclub? He is the second choice behind his brother in law who shit the bed & blew a great gig. So now Hank is the man? The Yankees will live to regret Steve Swindell fuckin' around on Steinbrenner's daughter. All I've seen from the second choice is a lot of bluster. The Yankees are playing catch up to the Sox now because the Sox have developed pitching & players that they can deal for established pitching. They have built on orginization that, top to bottom, covers all of the bases, so to speak. The Yankees need to stop trying to put an all star at every position & put in place guys who can do the little things that win ball games. Johnny Damon, you can have him. Abreu, the most overrated outfielder in baseball. Have you ever seen a player take the warning track so seriously? They've tied up alot of money in players who, by the time their contracts are up, will be a major albatross around their collective necks. While they have developed some young talent they are still making some of the same mistakes they've made over the last several seasons. Meanwhile most of what the Redsox have done seems to work. That starts at the top with John Henry & Lucchino & Theo on down. Like David Ortiz said during the playoffs again'st Cleveland " Look at your chest, that says Redsox. We're bad motherfuckers!" |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by welkdude
Maybe this is the year the Yankees will go back to relying on their farm system |
I think that the Yanks should stick with the young arms instaed of trading...Im in the minority when I say Id rather not have Santana if it meant trading away Hughes and another youngster like Melky... |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Unfortunately I think the biggest difference is managing.
Detroit has a proven winner in Leyland who has always gotten the very best from his players. Randolph has now showin he can do 1/10 the job that Leyland can.
That is what worries me.. |
If anything WIllie will have learned from last years historic down fall. |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
Ok, Chief, here a major problem as I see it. Hank is in charge. What has this clown ever done to suggest that he can run a ballclub? He is the second choice behind his brother in law who shit the bed & blew a great gig. So now Hank is the man? The Yankees will live to regret Steve Swindell fuckin' around on Steinbrenner's daughter. All I've seen from the second choice is a lot of bluster. The Yankees are playing catch up to the Sox now because the Sox have developed pitching & players that they can deal for established pitching. They have built on orginization that, top to bottom, covers all of the bases, so to speak. The Yankees need to stop trying to put an all star at every position & put in place guys who can do the little things that win ball games. Johnny Damon, you can have him. Abreu, the most overrated outfielder in baseball. Have you ever seen a player take the warning track so seriously? They've tied up alot of money in players who, by the time their contracts are up, will be a major albatross around their collective necks. While they have developed some young talent they are still making some of the same mistakes they've made over the last several seasons. Meanwhile most of what the Redsox have done seems to work. That starts at the top with John Henry & Lucchino & Theo on down. Like David Ortiz said during the playoffs again'st Cleveland " Look at your chest, that says Redsox. We're bad motherfuckers!" |
The Yankees have proven that buying all stars isnt how you win a championship...It has worked in winning pennants but once it gets to the most important time which is the post season these super stars under perform and its my opinion that its because they have the pressure of being expected to perform, they get the big money, they are paid so much because they are so good, the yankee philosophy is you dont win you fail, so they put so much stress on themselves that they choke...Like you said, they need players who do the little things that win ball games well...A winning team doesn't need a bunch or big egos... |
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| nuge67 |
The Yanks will make several moves before the trade deadline, thats a fact
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| Nuge cant wait for them to sign Clemens again... |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
The Yanks will make several moves before the trade deadline, thats a fact
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Yeah? Who's gonna' make them? Hank? You're fucked. |
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