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| Bist Meshugeh |
| Could 60 min get a fucking reporter that did not vote for FDR in his first election? |
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| EMFBoss |
Quote: Originally posted by Bist Meshugeh
Could 60 min get a fucking reporter that did not vote for FDR in his first election? |
Or a person that doesnt goes to every other Yankees home game ;) |
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| steve7968 |
Quote: Originally posted by Bist Meshugeh
Could 60 min get a fucking reporter that did not vote for FDR in his first election? |
he looks old as dirt. |
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| nuge67 |
| Clemens NAILED it, America believes the Rocket!! Sweet, nice going Roger!!!! |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| You believe him not America. Last time I checked I'm apart of America and I believe he is lying his ass off. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
You believe him not America. Last time I checked I'm apart of America and I believe he is lying his ass off. |
Well, you fall below the poverty line, you don't count. Come on, don't be so hateful, I know after watching tonight you feel he might be telling the truth........ |
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| Rev10 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Clemens NAILED it, America believes the Rocket!! Sweet, nice going Roger!!!! |
I had it DVR'd and just watched it. He did not come off well at all. Looked like a guy not doing a very good job of damage control. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
He looked like a guy who did not follow any PR advice whatsoever.
He should have a 3rd ear? Does he think everybody else is retarded? |
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| nuge67 |
| How can you not believe Clemens over a convict, Clemens nailed 60 minutes, is suing the prick and cleared his name at his press conf................ |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
keep smoking that crack.
Not even fellow Yankee fans agree with you. |
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| Pocc |
| The only reason hes a convict is because working with Clemens and his"training" program got him chucked in jail. |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
| If he came out and said, "give me a lie detector test" then people would be impressed...Whne he was asked last night if he would take one he said, "I would but how good are they and will it be enough?"..If he just said yes, give it to me now, Id be impressed.. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
keep smoking that crack.
Not even fellow Yankee fans agree with you. |
Look at you man, isn't there a Mets or Fins thread to go to. You fucking live in Yankee threads kids, damn.............. |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
keep smoking that crack.
Not even fellow Yankee fans agree with you. |
I dont know if I believe McNamme and Im not saying I believe Clemens...
The one thing I didnt see was an explosion is size in Clemens like the other players. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Look at you man, isn't there a Mets or Fins thread to go to. You fucking live in Yankee threads kids, damn.............. |
keep deflecting..I love it :rofl: |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
If he came out and said, "give me a lie detector test" then people would be impressed...Whne he was asked last night if he would take one he said, "I would but how good are they and will it be enough?"..If he just said yes, give it to me now, Id be impressed.. |
As Howard and any lawyer will say, they are not 100% accurate. The fact is, why doesn't the training take the lie detector test? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
I dont know if I believe McNamme and Im not saying I believe Clemens...
The one thing I didnt see was an explosion is size in Clemens like the other players. |
You sure you are not high? :D
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| Pocc |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
As Howard and any lawyer will say, they are not 100% accurate. The fact is, why doesn't the training take the lie detector test? |
Because hes not the one trying to prove anything. He said his piece in court under oath. Why would he lie??? He just said in that phone call that Roger treats him like family why would he lie under oath about him? |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You sure you are not high? :D |
Those arent exagerated...If you look at Jeter when he was 20 and now when hes in his mid 30s hes alot bigger like Clemens is... |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by Pocc
Because hes not the one trying to prove anything. He said his piece in court under oath. Why would he lie??? He just said in that phone call that Roger treats him like family why would he lie under oath about him? |
Its obvious why he would lie, IMO...Not sayin he is tho... |
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| Pocc |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
Its obvious why he would lie, IMO...Not sayin he is tho... |
What is obvious? Hes going to give up someone who treats him like family to the feds for what??? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
Those arent exagerated...If you look at Jeter when he was 20 and now when hes in his mid 30s hes alot bigger like Clemens is... |
Come on dude, its a picture and its clear as day! :rolleyes:
I am still waiting for somebody else to find me any athlete in the history of mankind, anywhere on this planet who has gotten better as they got older. Without the help illegal substances. Can anybody find me one? |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
As Howard and any lawyer will say, they are not 100% accurate. The fact is, why doesn't the training take the lie detector test? |
Thats true but If I was him and I wasn't lieing i would take that shit immediatly...That would show confidence... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pocc
What is obvious? Hes going to give up someone who treats him like family to the feds for what??? |
It is obvious he would lie....
Why?
he goes to jail if he lies..He does not if he tells the truth! |
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| meetthemets |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Come on dude, its a picture and its clear as day! :rolleyes:
I am still waiting for somebody else to find me any athlete in the history of mankind, anywhere on this planet who has gotten better as they got older. Without the help illegal substances. Can anybody find me one? |
Especially one that was good, then got shitty, then suddenly got good again in his late 30's. Hmmmm. :scratch: |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Come on dude, its a picture and its clear as day! :rolleyes:
I am still waiting for somebody else to find me any athlete in the history of mankind, anywhere on this planet who has gotten better as they got older. Without the help illegal substances. Can anybody find me one? |
I worked out for years from age 23-27 and I got very big...My friends on sterooids on the other hand were at a differnt level, I mean there was no question...Im talking fucking body builder size and Clemens doesnt look klike a body builder, IMO...You're agenda is to find anything to bash the yanks so you will always be biased and one sided... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
I worked out for years from age 23-27 and I got very big...My friends on sterooids on the other hand were at a differnt level, I mean there was no question...Im talking fucking body builder size and Clemens doesnt look klike a body builder, IMO...You're agenda is to find anything to bash the yanks so you will always be biased and one sided... |
ok then prove me wrong. Who is the other athlete who improved in their old age?
Who are you going to say.... Bonds? McGwire? :rofl:
Right now you seem like you do not want to talk about facts and just want to take personal shots at me. Come on, lets just talk about the thread subject!
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| nuge67 |
GUYS, face it, there are NO facts, ZERO, that prove Clemens used.........
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
GUYS, face it, there are NO facts, ZERO, that prove Clemens used.........
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right and McGwire and Bonds are clean also!!! :rolleyes: |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
ok then prove me wrong. Who is the other athlete who improved in their old age?
Who are you going to say.... Bonds? McGwire? :rofl:
Right now you seem like you do not want to talk about facts and just want to take personal shots at me. Come on, lets just talk about the thread subject! |
I will tell u from my experience, Clemens doesn't look like he took all those steroids physicaly...Did he actually take them???I don't know, prolly but I don't see the muscular growth in him that happens from taking Winstrol and dball and whatever else he took...These things are the strongest roids u can get and there is no hiding it....When u look at McGwire and Bonds you see two guys that look like they are body builders...Same with Pudge Rodriquez, he went from tiny, to fucking gigantic to tiny again...
Now u can post your laughing smiley since you know all and you're the only one allowed an opinion... :rolleyes: |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
I will tell u from my experience, Clemens doesn't look like he took all those steroids physicaly...Did he actually take them???I don't know, prolly but I don't see the muscular growth in him that happens from taking Winstrol and dball and whatever else he took...These things are the strongest roids u can get and there is no hiding it....When u look at McGwire and Bonds you see two guys that look like they are body builders...Same with Pudge Rodriquez, he went from tiny, to fucking gigantic to tiny again...
Now u can post your laughing smiley since you know all and you're the only one allowed an opinion... :rolleyes: |
So I take it you can not find me any other athletes in the history of mankind who have improved with age? Especially in their 40's.......
I am sorry, I never knew your eye was a human steroid test. I like to gain real facts and not trust somebodys eye.
You have to admit, to an outside with all the evidence, it certainly looks like he is guilty from a far.
Again, I am sorry you have no choice but to make this personal. I was trying to stick with the subject and not be an asshole to you. But I guess you have no other way to debate :rolleyes: |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
It is obvious he would lie....
Why?
he goes to jail if he lies..He does not if he tells the truth! |
Actually, theres way more to it than that...Do u think the feds arent making deals???
You give me this guy and you walk...This shit happens every day...i just watched this thing on TV where prosecutors will ask witnesses to lie just to get a conviction...A few guys were just let out of jail after spending 20 years because prosecuters and social workers got little kids to lie on the stand and say there parents molested them and now that these kids grew up they are coming forward...Prosecuters just want convictions... |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
So I take it you can not find me any other athletes in the history of mankind who have improved with age? Especially in their 40's.......
I am sorry, I never knew your eye was a human steroid test. I like to gain real facts and not trust somebodys eye.
You have to admit, to an outside with all the evidence, it certainly looks like he is guilty from a far.
Again, I am sorry you have no choice but to make this personal. I was trying to stick with the subject and not be an asshole to you. But I guess you have no other way to debate :rolleyes: |
When did I ever say anything about performance???What is it about, "appearance" that you twist into all that???
You are putting words in my post...He doesnt look as big as i would expect for what he supposedly did...End of story... :rolleyes:
btw, how am I being an asshole???You are taking my words and laughing at me as if Im stupid...I never said my eyes are a steroid test...Im saying my fucking iopinion...Now you need to stop being the asshole as u say... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
Actually, theres way more to it than that...Do u think the feds arent making deals???
You give me this guy and you walk...This shit happens every day...i just watched this thing on TV where prosecutors will ask witnesses to lie just to get a conviction...A few guys were just let out of jail after spending 20 years because prosecuters and social workers got little kids to lie on the stand and say there parents molested them and now that these kids grew up they are coming forward...Prosecuters just want convictions... |
exactly and they already had plenty from him.
He had everything to lose and NOTHING to gain by saying Clemens!
If he is found to lied, he goes to jail!! If he tells the truth, he does not go to jail. I mean it is not rocket science what 99% of the population would do....TELL THE TRUTH!! |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
When did I ever say anything about performance???What is it about, "appearance" that you twist into all that???
You are putting words in my post...He doesnt look as big as i would expect for what he supposedly did...End of story... :rolleyes:
btw, how am I being an asshole???You are taking my words and laughing at me as if Im stupid...I never said my eyes are a steroid test...Im saying my fucking iopinion...Now you need to stop being the asshole as u say... |
When did I ever mention the word performance? I do not think I ever did so I am clueless with what your talking about with that.
I am putting words in your mouth? Well Maybe I am but when you make this comment:
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
I will tell u from my experience, Clemens doesn't look like he took all those steroids physicaly...: |
it gives me the the impression that your eye is a human steroid test. Maybe I am nuts for assuming that but I do not think I would be the only one.
When did I say you were being an asshole? I think your the person making shit up now. I said I was trying "NOT TO BE AN ASSHOLE" to you. I never called you an asshole or even implied you were.
All I am saying is that you had to throw in that little personal jab at me. I thought maybe we were past that but I guess not. Well...now I know at least :rolleyes: |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
exactly and they already had plenty from him.
He had everything to lose and NOTHING to gain by saying Clemens!
If he is found to lied, he goes to jail!! If he tells the truth, he does not go to jail. I mean it is not rocket science what 99% of the population would do....TELL THE TRUTH!! |
Actually wrong, I just told u witnesses were coached into lieing just to get convictions...It happnens and to put away a high profile guy like Clemens or Bonds believe me it is not out of the realm of possibilities that he is being pressured to give them something juicy...
I told I think he prolly did something wrong but from my own eyes and experience it is my opinion that he isnt as big as I would think he should be being on so many steroids....All opinions based on what Ive seen.... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
Actually wrong, I just told u witnesses were coached into lieing just to get convictions...It happnens and to put away a high profile guy like Clemens or Bonds believe me it is not out of the realm of possibilities that he is being pressured to give them something juicy...
I told I think he prolly did something wrong but from my own eyes and experience it is my opinion that he isnt as big as I would think he should be being on so many steroids....All opinions based on what Ive seen.... |
ok, well I will be right here when Clemens has his apology press conference and comes clean(see Marion Jones) :D |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
When did I ever say anything about performance???What is it about, "appearance" that you twist into all that???
You are putting words in my post...He doesnt look as big as i would expect for what he supposedly did...End of story... :rolleyes:
btw, how am I being an asshole???You are taking my words and laughing at me as if Im stupid...I never said my eyes are a steroid test...Im saying my fucking iopinion...Now you need to stop being the asshole as u say... |
Clit, he is confused, he is cumming in his thong thinking about Clemens using. You are the 4th person who caught him lying or twisting things in the past half hour............UNREAL |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Clit, he is confused, he is cumming in his thong thinking about Clemens using. You are the 4th person who caught him lying or twisting things in the past half hour............UNREAL |
Really? Who are the first 3 and what are their examples?
Ill wait!! |
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| johnni44 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
As Howard and any lawyer will say, they are not 100% accurate. The fact is, why doesn't the training take the lie detector test? |
Cause he didn't whore himself out on 60 minutes with his pal Wallace and leave himself open to that question. |
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| johnni44 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
How can you not believe Clemens over a convict, Clemens nailed 60 minutes, is suing the prick and cleared his name at his press conf................ |
Hmm... A convict that was never convicted. Are we talking about Clemens or McNamee Nuge? |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
When did I ever mention the word performance? I do not think I ever did so I am clueless with what your talking about with that.
I am putting words in your mouth? Well Maybe I am but when you make this comment: it gives me the the impression that your eye is a human steroid test. Maybe I am nuts for assuming that but I do not think I would be the only one.
When did I say you were being an asshole? I think your the person making shit up now. I said I was trying "NOT TO BE AN ASSHOLE" to you. I never called you an asshole or even implied you were.
All I am saying is that you had to throw in that little personal jab at me. I thought maybe we were past that but I guess not. Well...now I know at least :rolleyes: |
I said that he doesnt look physically on steroids, IMO...You challenged me saying i should prove who else was getting better as he got older when that wasnt my thought...
I didnt attack u either...If ur talkin bout the the fact that u love to get under yankee fans skin for your fun then I stand by that cuz u never seem to say, "oh I see what u mean"... |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by johnni44
Hmm... A convict that was never convicted. Are we talking about Clemens or McNamee Nuge? |
McNamee |
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| Clit Eastwood. |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
ok, well I will be right here when Clemens has his apology press conference and comes clean(see Marion Jones) :D |
If u want my honest feelings, here it is....
"Im Roger Clemens fan, I love his competitivness and he is one of the greatest ever...I think he prolly did them but hope he didnt and there isnt any proof"... |
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| Matt Serra |
| It's all so telling. A multimillionaire playing for the Yankee's orgnaization has got to get a towel boy to inject him. Sure Roger, the inartful, Dodger. |
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| johnni44 |
I'll post this here as well.
First off Nuge....this is not a Yankee's thing, I hated Roger when he played for the Sox from first hand contact with the guy so let's get that out of the way.
The phone call was heavily tilted in Roger's favour, let's first agree on that. He recorded it and was obviously going to say everything he could to TRY to prove he's innocent. Roger succeeded there. Where he failed was in baiting Brian to go along and agree that he lied to save himself from jailtime. It sounded more like Roger brow beating the guy for turning him in after they were personal friends and professionally tied together.
Wasn't it odd that McNamee kept saying "What do you want me to do?, what do you want me to do?" Roger could and should have said 'Tell everyone you're lying'.
That's what any innocent person would say. Instead he says, "I need to think about it" and was trying real hard to end that call.
Roger can't say that for he knew what would come out next on the call .
Maybe I'm biased but that was my take anyhow. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
I said that he doesnt look physically on steroids, IMO...You challenged me saying i should prove who else was getting better as he got older when that wasnt my thought...
I didnt attack u either...If ur talkin bout the the fact that u love to get under yankee fans skin for your fun then I stand by that cuz u never seem to say, "oh I see what u mean"... |
Were you able to think about anybody else who has gotten better as they got older?
I never say " Oh, I see what you mean" because I have yet to see what you mean.
If I recall, I do not think you have said "Oh, I see what you mean" also. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Were you able to think about anybody else who has gotten better as they got older?
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Yeah, your mother, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaa |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Clit Eastwood.
If u want my honest feelings, here it is....
"Im Roger Clemens fan, I love his competitivness and he is one of the greatest ever...I think he prolly did them but hope he didnt and there isnt any proof"... |
Well there is not proof of Bonds or McGwire. For some reason, I doubt you think they are innocent.
Michael Jackson has no proof that he is a child molester, but for some reason I think you realize he is.
Your too smart for this shit. Just because there is no "proof" does not mean you are innocent.
It might mean you are "not guilty" but not guilty and innocent and two different things. :rolleyes: |
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