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| Roundhead |
| Ive been watching the debates and Ron Paul is the fucking man. This guy applys logic and common since to his thoughts unlike the rest of the fucking republican candidates |
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| pokerstar |
| No shit buddy, what took you so long |
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| jmp1973 |
The problem is he isn't very polished, he lets the other guys push him around in debates sometimes, and he has a few extreme views (for example, abolishing the FBI) that kill his other more valid points.
Part of the problem is that he is not a Republican and shouldn't be lumped with those bible thumping half wits. Republicans don't want logic and common sense...they want back alley abortions, prayer in school, no taxes, increased military spending and an end to homosexuality. |
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| Goodfella1120 |
| I watch Meet the Press every week. Ron Paul was great on that show and I would like the guy to get a chance, but I am afraid his ideas are too radical for most people. |
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| jtheweirdo |
Quote: Originally posted by Roundhead
Ive been watching the debates and Ron Paul is the fucking man. This guy applys logic and common since to his thoughts unlike the rest of the fucking republican candidates |
Too bad, Foxnews Assholes, will do their best to keep him out. Ghouliani got 3% in Iowa, Ron Paul got 10% and they leave Ron Paul out of their latest Republican debate but let Ghouliani in. |
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| welkdude |
Even if Ron Paul doesn't get the GOP nomination.....I would love to see him run as a third-party candidate, give those other two fuckers one mutha of a scare!
And with this angry political climate......it will be more than just a spoiler, he could be the winner! |
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| Roundhead |
Quote: Originally posted by pokerstar
No shit buddy, what took you so long |
LOL I fucking hate politicians and their bullshit but I was interested to see what Americas choices were so the other night I watched the NH debates. It seem that all the republicans are wack jobs except Paul. For the Dems I like Hilary, Richards and Obama but I dont think Richards is president material and Obama seems like a cocky prick. So I hope you vote Paul or Hilary I guess |
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| Roundhead |
Quote: Originally posted by jtheweirdo
Too bad, Foxnews Assholes, will do their best to keep him out. Ghouliani got 3% in Iowa, Ron Paul got 10% and they leave Ron Paul out of their latest Republican debate but let Ghouliani in. |
Ghouliani scares the shit out of me almost like Goerge Bush does. Hes a fucking wacko and if i was an American id be tellig all my friends to beware of him, Thompson and those other 2 assholes are Scary too. Whats their names...ummmmHuckabee and drawing blanks on the other one |
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| Dakota4791 |
| He has good ideas, but Ron Paul has some bad ideas too - thinks we should drill in Alaska for oil; doesn't care about the environment; gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt children; no to stem cell research; against funding abortion clinics; wants to build a fence on Mexican border (as if that would do anything); less restrictions on campaign financing; opposes death penalty; and it goes on... |
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| Roundhead |
Quote: Originally posted by Dakota4791
He has good ideas, but Ron Paul has some bad ideas too - thinks we should drill in Alaska for oil; doesn't care about the environment; gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt children; no to stem cell research; against funding abortion clinics; wants to build a fence on Mexican border (as if that would do anything); less restrictions on campaign financing; opposes death penalty; and it goes on... |
The only problem I have is no to stem cell research. The rest I could deal with |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by Dakota4791
against funding abortion clinics; |
But he has said that is only his personal beliefs, and would not make a federal abortion law, he would leave it up to the individual states. Just sayin. |
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| Navarone |
| Against abortion, stem cell research, and gay rights..f paul |
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| Deathshead |
Quote: Originally posted by Roundhead
Ghouliani scares the shit out of me almost like Goerge Bush does. Hes a fucking wacko and if i was an American id be tellig all my friends to beware of him, Thompson and those other 2 assholes are Scary too. Whats their names...ummmmHuckabee and drawing blanks on the other one |
Wacko? How so? Lets examine his track record alitte...
-Was instrumental in bringing down or atleast crippling organized crime in NYC
-Helped clean up Wall St during the LBO phase of the mid to late 80's, was not afraid to prosecute big money guys like Milken
-Inherited a city that was bankrupt with huge taxes, reduced taxes across the board and turned NYC back into a thriving economy
-Reduced crime in NYC
-Led NYC and most of America through the 9/11 tragedy
Unlike the idiot in the White House now thats ran everything he touched into the ground, or Hillary that hasnt even run her own household Rudy has the experience and a proven track record |
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| Deathshead |
Isnt this the Ron Paul who said..
MR. RUSSERT: So if Iran invaded Israel, what do we do?
REP. PAUL: Well, they’re not going to. That is like saying “Iran is about to invade Mars.” I mean, they have nothing. They don’t have an army or navy or air force. And Israelis have 300 nuclear weapons. Nobody would touch them.
and some other Ron Paul highlights..
# Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
# Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
# Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
# Voted YES on withdrawing from the WTO. (Jun 2000)
# Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)
# Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002)
# Voted NO on banning soft money and issue ads. (Sep 1999)
# Voted NO on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Mar 2007)
# Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)
# Voted NO on establishing “network neutrality” (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)
He thinks we’d be safer without the CIA
He wants to get rid of the EPA
He wants to get rid of the department of education
also feels the civil war should never have been fought |
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| Kilgo |
I support Ron Paul more than I have any other candidate in history. It's been great to have Bubba, and just yesterday Howard, speaking positively about him. Certain it's a counter to the mistreatment Dr. Paul has received from much of the national mainstream media.
At the very least, it's great to have his name being mentioned. Like him or not, it should strike most people as strange/bizarre that a candidate who pulled double-digit numbers in Iowa and who raised nearly $20 million in the fourth quarter of 2007 (blowing away the competition) was denied entry to the Fox News debate the past weekend.
Dr. Paul's message of freedom (particularly from federal government intervention) is one that is very refreshing. |
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| Roundhead |
| Im not surprised Hilary won in NH after watching the debates. Obama came off like a prick and was way cocky. I am still hoping Paul wins the republican nomanation but highly unlikely |
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| jmp1973 |
The thing that concerns me is that Ron Paul looks more attractive than he might otherwise be as a politician, simply because many are sick of the typical republican and democrat bullshit.
I lived in MN when Jesse Ventura was elected Governor...I don't think he won because he was the best candidate, but rather because everyone was tired of the two parties and the same old song and dance from their two candidates. Jesse turned out to be mediocre at best...if he hadn't had good people surrounding him, it would have been ugly while he was in office.
While I'd love to see the American people shake things up on a national level, I'm just not convinced Ron Paul is the guy. He has a number of views that I agree with, but many that I don't. Sadly, the more I learn about him, the more concerned I am. Bubba and Howard endorsing a candidate doesn't mean a thing. Those two are not keen political minds. I would bet that Howard has no idea that Ron Paul does not support gay rights or that Bubba knows that Ron Paul would like to eliminate federal law enforcement and international intelligence gathering.
Brent's opinion is one that I respect, but he gets a little too caught up in the whole legalize marijuana/prostitution slant...and loses sight of the more important issues. Brent can't possibly agree with Ron Paul's more radical ideas.
In the end, the people get to decide. Er, wait...no, the supreme court does!
BTW, does anyone watch Lou Dobbs? There's your best independent candidate IMO...but I'd hate to see his show go away if he ran for office. |
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| Gator_Russ |
Quote: Originally posted by Deathshead
Wacko? How so? Lets examine his track record alitte...
-Was instrumental in bringing down or atleast crippling organized crime in NYC
-Helped clean up Wall St during the LBO phase of the mid to late 80's, was not afraid to prosecute big money guys like Milken
-Inherited a city that was bankrupt with huge taxes, reduced taxes across the board and turned NYC back into a thriving economy
-Reduced crime in NYC
-Led NYC and most of America through the 9/11 tragedy
Unlike the idiot in the White House now thats ran everything he touched into the ground, or Hillary that hasnt even run her own household Rudy has the experience and a proven track record |
And since Republicans are so big on the sanctity of marriage, Why does he have 2 divorces? I thought marriage was a sacred institution. Republicans busted Clinton to the fucking surface over some blow jobs, Rudy was fucking arround on his wife, while in office, USING THE CITY RESOURCES TO DO IT.
Yeah I really want that dude in charge of this already fucked country. |
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| euphymbus |
| ron paul is the way to go. Too bad noone will vote for him. The press thinks he is wacky. |
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| WillieJones |
Quote:
No other can Presidential candidate can claim the following
record:
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Dr. Paul...
has never voted to raise taxes.
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has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
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has never voted for a federal restriction on gun
ownership.
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has never voted to raise congressional pay.
has never taken a government-paid junket.
has never voted to increase the power of the executive
branch.
voted against the Patriot Act.
voted against regulating the Internet.
voted against the Iraq war.
does not participate in the lucrative congressional
pension program.
returns a portion of his annual congressional office
budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Supported Ronald Reagan against Gerald Ford in 1976
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http://www.reuters.com/article/pres...2008+BW20080107 |
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| GUSHERMAN |
Quote: Originally posted by Dakota4791
He has good ideas, but Ron Paul has some bad ideas too - thinks we should drill in Alaska for oil; doesn't care about the environment; gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt children; no to stem cell research; against funding abortion clinics; wants to build a fence on Mexican border (as if that would do anything); less restrictions on campaign financing; opposes death penalty; and it goes on... |
That's the Republican agenda portion of the platform. But hopefully, if elected, he can turn out like Schwartzeneger and just do the right things/what is needed. Schwartzeneger has been getting flack for not towing the Republican line - that's because he's just doing what needs to be done instead of playing politics! |
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| bigdaddyhybrid |
Quote: Originally posted by GUSHERMAN
That's the Republican agenda portion of the platform. But hopefully, if elected, he can turn out like Schwartzeneger and just do the right things/what is needed. Schwartzeneger has been getting flack for not towing the Republican line - that's because he's just doing what needs to be done instead of playing politics! |
Arnold is starting to fuck up big time though. His new budget cuts are horrible. He's wanting to take 10% away from an already crumbling education system. And he's also looking at releasing 22,000 inmates early! Someone fucked up somewhere. It goes way back to before Davis sadly. :( Every politician is full of shit these days. |
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| fizzlefart |
| Ron Paul 2008 :yesshake: |
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| crazy4alice |
Quote: Originally posted by Deathshead
Isnt this the Ron Paul who said..
MR. RUSSERT: So if Iran invaded Israel, what do we do?
REP. PAUL: Well, they’re not going to. That is like saying “Iran is about to invade Mars.” I mean, they have nothing. They don’t have an army or navy or air force. And Israelis have 300 nuclear weapons. Nobody would touch them.
and some other Ron Paul highlights..
# Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
# Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
# Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
# Voted YES on withdrawing from the WTO. (Jun 2000)
# Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)
# Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002)
# Voted NO on banning soft money and issue ads. (Sep 1999)
# Voted NO on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Mar 2007)
# Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)
# Voted NO on establishing “network neutrality” (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)
He thinks we’d be safer without the CIA
He wants to get rid of the EPA
He wants to get rid of the department of education
also feels the civil war should never have been fought |
Dude, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. It's entertaining watching the clueless bump into each other while they blindly follow Paul's shadow. |
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| cincysternfan |
| You know... its really hard for me to get all the candidates stances on issues.. do you think Brent could or would do a Political Special on 101 for all of us to give us the facts on the candidiates and take some calls?? |
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| Sieve Boy |
Ron Paul (and any libertarian) is a joke. Libertarians are for the Constitution and against the government (in a nutshell). The Constitution is the foundation for the government, to be for it would be for the government. Also, if Ron Paul is soo against the government's purpose and function in a sense similiar to Ronald Reagan, then why does he serve the government. Moreso why would be want to be the top official in the government? Only to destroy it with his ideals perhaps?
It is great that Ron Paul is against Iraq, so are all Americans who aren't appartied to the Bush cult. Beyond that he is as much of a hardline right-winger as you'll find in the U.S. government, if you cannot see that this type of politician has been destructive to America since 1981 you may want to get your head checked. |
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| Deathshead |
Quote: Originally posted by Gator_Russ
And since Republicans are so big on the sanctity of marriage, Why does he have 2 divorces? I thought marriage was a sacred institution. Republicans busted Clinton to the fucking surface over some blow jobs, Rudy was fucking arround on his wife, while in office, USING THE CITY RESOURCES TO DO IT.
Yeah I really want that dude in charge of this already fucked country. |
Did I mention marriage? You think a guy is fucked up because he has been divorced twice???? Nice logic. And whose your candidate of choice-Ron Paul, let me guess because Bubba supports him. Before Brent mentioned him you probably had no clue who the hell he even was.
When you can come up with a better argument, a logical one, against Rudy let me know |
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| Slidejob Jones |
Look fellas.......you're NEVER going to find a candidate that pushes EVERY belief that you believe in. For me, the main thing I am looking for this election, I don't want a trigger happy asshole spening my money, and our fine soliders lives on worthless fucking wars.
Aside from having family in active duty at the moment, this who deal is literally destroying our economy. I work very hard to earn and save my money, and am not about spending any of my personal income to liberate a bunch of sand eating assholes. They needed a ruthless dictator that cuts their tounges out for speaking out.....they needed someone like that to keep their barbaric asses in line. Fuck them all. |
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| Slidejob Jones |
Quote: Originally posted by Deathshead
Did I mention marriage? You think a guy is fucked up because he has been divorced twice???? Nice logic. And whose your candidate of choice-Ron Paul, let me guess because Bubba supports him. Before Brent mentioned him you probably had no clue who the hell he even was.
When you can come up with a better argument, a logical one, against Rudy let me know |
Rudy is a tremendous mayor. I'd not hesitate to vote to elect him as mayor to ANY city. Hell, I'd even consider senator, or governor. He's playing out of his league running for president, and if not for 9/11, 90% of the US population would even know who the hell he is. An unelectable asshole is all he would be. But, he (or his campaign advisers) noticed this, and made his entire campaign run about 9/11. Every answer, 9/11.
It's pretty easy to see through his shit. When Ron Paul stated the obvious, but the side no one else wants to hear....what did Rudy do? Turn a simple and truthful statement, and twist the words into claiming we were solely to blame for 9/11. That's not what Paul said, and anyone with half a brain cell understood, and agreed with the actual statement.
Rudy: I want an apology. Fuck off Rudy.
Other than Hillary, I don't think there is a candidate I am less likely to vote for, |
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