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| Jackie's Career |
“We cannot ignore the recent improvements both in the security and political situation in Iraq,” Staffan de Mistura, head of the U.N. Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI), said in a speech to the Security Council.
"He said the reduced level of violence could be attributed to a number of factors including the increased presence of U.S. and other troops, a ceasefire declared by Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr’s Mehdi Army militia, and increased cooperation with Iraq’s neighbors."
http://www.reuters.com/article/worl...140920820080121
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| zimmie |
| Hoyer, Murtha, the UN....who else is left? |
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| Fdubya247 |
a ceasefire declared by Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr’s Mehdi Army militia
Duh.
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| NCMike06 |
| The leftbots will be left to attack the UN now as a questionable source... :burst: in other words, they are starting to eat themselves alive from the inside in their constant Jihad against the war in Iraq, our success there, and any news of that success.... |
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| Fdubya247 |
If there were a giant turd on your carpet, putting a napkin over it could also be called "an improvement".
Get some perspective already, you Duped Cockroaches.
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| patcracker |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
The leftbots will be left to attack the UN now as a questionable source... :burst: in other words, they are starting to eat themselves alive from the inside in their constant Jihad against the war in Iraq, our success there, and any news of that success.... |
The Bush administration hates the UN so now you are going to cheer for it? The Bush administration didnt listen to the UN before the invasion so why would they care what they have to say now? |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
If there were a giant turd on your carpet, putting a napkin over it could also be called "an improvement".
Get some perspective already, you Duped Cockroaches.
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in your case, it would be a sanitary napkin... |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by patcracker
The Bush administration hates the UN so now you are going to cheer for it? The Bush administration didnt listen to the UN before the invasion so why would they care what they have to say now? |
WHere exactly did I cheer it??? I have been linking articles about the good news in Iraq long before the UN got on board.... But what do you think about what the UN said??? Be specific please.. |
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| artie84 |
| we won 100 dollar a barrel gas and 3930 dead soilders |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by artie84
we won 100 dollar a barrel gas and 3930 dead soilders |
Gas is $100 a barrel??? WHere do I sign?? :burst: |
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| Tomofnnh |
| Bushbots still using "war" and "success" in the same sentence. One day when you're all grown up Mike, you notice those words contradict each other. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Tomofnnh
Bushbots still using "war" and "success" in the same sentence. One day when you're all grown up Mike, you notice those words contradict each other. |
"Success".....:
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Tomofnnh
Bushbots still using "war" and "success" in the same sentence. One day when you're all grown up Mike, you notice those words contradict each other. |
Tell that to the Revolutionary war Vets, Civil War Vets, WW1 and 2 vets, ect, ect. One day when you decide that you might want to think clearly, you will notice that long periods of peace only seem to follow victory in war... |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by artie84
oil*
die mike |
:D :D
Don't hate, appreciate.. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
"Success".....:
:ps: |
It's amusing how Democrats keep demonizing corporations and have a complete lack of economic understanding.
Here's a primer for your feeble mind:
- Corporations create jobs.
- Raising the taxes on corporations (as the 3 Democrat Presidential candidates are foaming at the mouth to do) will only lead to a mass exodus of jobs because Corporations will seek out alternate countries who do not slam business with draconian taxes.
- Corporations are the life-blood of our economic system.
- If you hate them so much, then I hope you live by your principles and are self-employed. Otherwise, you are just another liberal hypocrite like John Edwards who cries about "two Americas" and lives in the one half he denounces.
The end. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
victory in war... |
wait...what war? :burst: |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
:lol: |
Well let's see if you practice what you preach -
Are you self-employed or are you a cog in the machine? And don't lie.
Go. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Well let's see if you practice what you preach -
Are you self-employed or are you a cog in the machine? And don't lie.
Go. |
Self-employed for the past 5 years.
*FLUSH*
:crapper:
So unless you are "self-employed", the only career options available to Americans today are "corporate"??? Shit's worse than I've been saying!!!! Holy Fuck!!!!
:hitler::ps:
My god are you a terrific Cunt of a stupid faggot....Go (fuck yourself).
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| patcracker |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
WHere exactly did I cheer it??? I have been linking articles about the good news in Iraq long before the UN got on board.... But what do you think about what the UN said??? Be specific please.. |
Since you are nothing but a cheerleader for the Bush Administration, I find it odd that you now listen to the UN. Is that clear enough for you.
| Quote: UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United Nations' chief envoy in Iraq gave a mixed report on Monday on the situation, saying security had improved but an [B]Iraqi political consensus was needed for a long-term reduction in violence.[/B[ |
Hello, this is what I have been saying why the surge is a failure. You can lead a horse... you know the rest... shame on wont get fooled again.
| Quote: However, "absent a political consensus on the most fundamental elements of the Iraqi state -- currently tenuous -- the Iraqis will achieve no lasting solution on the reduction of violence," he warned the council. |
This means we can stay in there for the next 20 years and if the governemnt does nothing then we are screwed..... Shit or get off the pot time is coming near. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Hey the Iraqi government was finally able to pass a law to change the Iraqi flag today....!!!!
What amazing progress!!! Victory!!! Victory!!!
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| kali |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
If there were a giant turd on your carpet, putting a napkin over it could also be called "an improvement".
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:lol: :lol:
that must explain why they all Stink!!! :shit: |
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| Jackie's Career |
Quote: Originally posted by patcracker
Iraqi political consensus was needed for a long-term reduction in violence. |
A political consensus isn't common in any free country. Hell, we can't even get a political consensus between Hillary and Obama and they're in the same party.
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackies Career
A political consensus isn't common in any free country. Hell, we can't even get a political consensus between Hillary and Obama and they're in the same party. |
....having no concept of degree or proportion says what???
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| zimmie |
| taking out the trash for an allowance when mom tells you to is not being self-employed |
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| cunning lingo |
| No, but blowing guys at the local truckstop is......but he probably doesn't pay taxes.... rebel to the end. |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
Self-employed for the past 5 years.
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| cunning lingo |
I was thinking more along the lines of this...
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| BaBaBoston |
Study: False statements preceded war
By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.
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The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.
White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat.
"The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.
The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.
"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."
Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan.
Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida.
The center said the study was based on a database created with public statements over the two years beginning on Sept. 11, 2001, and information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches and interviews.
"The cumulative effect of these false statements — amplified by thousands of news stories and broadcasts — was massive, with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to war," the study concluded.
"Some journalists — indeed, even some entire news organizations — have since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, 'independent' validation of the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq," it said. |
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| patcracker |
| Welcome back Baba Boston. |
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| JTProcess |
Yay!!! We sent a bunch more troops in there and now the violence is back down to the same level it was before they got there!!!
Hooray we won!!! pack it up and bring em home boys... the champaigne is on ice.
yeah... |
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| Jackie's Career |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
Yay!!! We sent a bunch more troops in there and now the violence is back down to the same level it was before they got there!!!
Hooray we won!!! pack it up and bring em home boys... the champaigne is on ice.
yeah... |
Aww. Don't be sad. You can still hope for the worst in Afghanistan.
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
I was thinking more along the lines of this...
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of course you were :yes:
that is always the first thing you think of :burst: |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackies Career
Aww. Don't be sad. You can still hope for the worst in Afghanistan. |
cheney doesn't need our hope :p |
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| Anogram |
I love it when the Bush bots want to do this again when it is so far from over
Good news coming out of Iraq is great but lets not fly this banner already. |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackies Career
Aww. Don't be sad. You can still hope for the worst in Afghanistan. |
And you can continue to live in a sparkley rainbow dreamworld where a little nugget like this means more than the big picture...
"2007 Deadliest Year Yet For US Troops in Iraq"
If you had a job and your company lost billions of dollars all year but was suddenly slightly profitable in December you'd still get fired.
Which is more than likely why you're still in your mom's basement and not in Iraq or Afghanistan |
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| Fdubya247 |
$2 Trillion American taxpayer dollars to turn Iran into an actual Middle East power, strengthen our enemies, weaken our "security", and lose all credibility on the global stage....
Wadda bargain.....!!!
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| Jackie's Career |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
If you had a job and your company lost billions of dollars all year but was suddenly slightly profitable in December you'd still get fired.
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"Waaah.... but they promised me a civil war. Waaaah..."
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| ihateralphiec |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackies Career
"Waaah.... but they promised me a civil war. Waaaah..." |
Sorry, we've only brought Iraq to the brink of civil war. That is success in your book? |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by ihateralphiec
Sorry, we've only brought Iraq to the brink of civil war. That is success in your book? |
Jackies Career =  |
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| ihateralphiec |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
Jackies Career = |
Can some moderator please alter Jackies Career avatar to above picture? |
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| Robinsmuff |
We are far from being able to declare victory or even suggest that Iraq is stable. At best we can say that Iraq is not as bad right now as it was 6 months ago. We have spent over 1 trillion dollars to achieve this? Are you fucking kidding me? In whose mind could this possibly be seen as a success?
Iraq is still a Country that has shown no evidence of being able to peacefully exist without our presence. It is entirely conceivable that we will have a military presence in Iraq for the next decade. It is also very possible that violence will once again escalate even with an increased military presence.
At the end of the day the best case scenario is we have created a theocracy that will exist with a very shakey alliance of groups that will never trust each other. We certainly no matter what have not made the world any safer & in fact may have only created another problem.
Anyone who thinks this venture was worth it is a fucking idiot. No exceptions. For the record I have always said that we can't leave. I have never supported a pulling out of our troops. As Powell warned Bush, you break it you bought it. We created this mess & we responsible for seeing it through, no matter that cost or the length. The thing is you can hold the ass wipes who decided we should go in accountable. Bush, Wolfowitz, Cheney can still all be tried for treason as enemies of our Country. |
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| nikkyo |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
Tell that to the Revolutionary war Vets, Civil War Vets, WW1 and 2 vets, ect, ect. One day when you decide that you might want to think clearly, you will notice that long periods of peace only seem to follow victory in war... |
Yup, in all the talk of war on Iraq, I've yet to hear anyone recently claim that taking out Saddam or bringing about a regime change made the world a more peaceful, happier place. |
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| nunpuncher |
[QUOTE=Robinsmuff]We are far from being able to declare victory or even suggest that Iraq is stable. At best we can say that Iraq is not as bad right now as it was 6 months ago. We have spent over 1 trillion dollars to achieve this? Are you fucking kidding me? In whose mind could this possibly be seen as a success?
Iraq is still a Country that has shown no evidence of being able to peacefully exist without our presence. It is entirely conceivable that we will have a military presence in Iraq for the next decade. It is also very possible that violence will once again escalate even with an increased military presence.
At the end of the day the best case scenario is we have created a theocracy that will exist with a very shakey alliance of groups that will never trust each other. We certainly no matter what have not made the world any safer & in fact may have only created another problem.
Anyone who thinks this venture was worth it is a fucking idiot. No exceptions. For the record I have always said that we can't leave. I have never supported a pulling out of our troops. As Powell warned Bush, you break it you bought it. We created this mess & we responsible for seeing it through, no matter that cost or the length. The thing is you can hold the ass wipes who decided we should go in accountable. Bush, Wolfowitz, Cheney can still all be tried for treason as enemies of our Country. [/QUOTE
so robin in 20 years if democracy spreads through out the middle east will you stand by the above |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackies Career
"Waaah.... but they promised me a civil war. Waaaah..." |
not sure what that's supposed to mean... but if that's your response it's even more pathetic than I expected.
congratulations. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by nunpuncher
so robin in 20 years if democracy spreads through out the middle east will you stand by the above |
....is that when all the oil runs out? |
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| nunpuncher |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
....is that when all the oil runs out? |
yeah all that free oil we are getting
remember the war is for oil |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by nunpuncher
yeah all that free oil we are getting
remember the war is for oil |
Oh, I forgot....we invaded for "democracy"....
:giggle:
"We" are paying for it in blood and treasure.
Big Oil gets access. Halliburton gets no-bid contracts to poison our troops.
They all make huge profits, and American's are paying twice as much for gas.
Success!
:hitler::ps:
Just like Cheney's "Energy Task Force" envisioned I bet.... |
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| nunpuncher |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
Oh, I forgot....we invaded for "democracy"....
:giggle:
"We" are paying for it in blood and treasure.
Big Oil gets access. Halliburton gets no-bid contracts to poison our troops.
They all make huge profits, and American's are paying twice as much for gas.
Success!
:hitler::ps:
Just like Cheney's "Energy Task Force" envisioned I bet.... |
yeah the price of oil has to do with the war and not the billion of new drivers in forign countries
same with copper ...im sure encore wire and general cable are in on this war also
and concrete fucking quickcrete has to be hauled in to testify in front of congress |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by nunpuncher
yeah the price of oil has to do with the war and not the billion of new drivers in forign countries |
no, it has to do with both
just because the war was for oil does not mean oil is cheap. quite the contrary |
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| nunpuncher |
| ok keep telling yourself that and keep ignoring the number of new drivers elsewhere in the world |
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| Jackie's Career |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
not sure what that's supposed to mean... but if that's your response it's even more pathetic than I expected.
congratulations. |
It was my ode to Artie's "waaah" bit he does when people whine. Stills cracks me up. LOL
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| melkor555 |
| HOORAAAAYYYY FOR VICTORY!!!!!!!! I am so glad that Iraqis now live in a truly Democratic world and now that they are truly free and prosperous the Iranians will see them right next door to them and say we want that. The leaders will step down and a freely elected government will step in 20 short years. I know when we showed the communists in North Korea how sweet democracy was right to the South they jumped right in line.........oh wait.......when we showed north Vietnam.......ohh hmmmmmmmm....Cubans can get a strong telescope and see the true shining light of democracy just to the north and they switched right away......hmmmmmm........How about all those happy South Americans we went to go help and show the light of freedom....any day now I am sure |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackies Career
It was my ode to Artie's "waaah" bit he does when people whine. Stills cracks me up. LOL |
I know what "waaa" means I just have no idea what your comeback means... "waah no civil war?"
there is ... or was a civil war going on in Iraq until a recent truce between shiites and sunnis...
While it's obvious "the surge" has helped... at what cost? It was still the deadliest year yet and the military is spread so thin that the amount of "surging" necessary to restore and secure peace to the country is impossible...
So yet again we have morons like you being duped by yet another stupid slogan... you can add "the surge is working" to the list with "the insurgency is in its last throes" "they will greet us with flowers" "We've turned the corner" and the countless other half retarded marketing slogans that you and your ilk continue to be duped into believing. |
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| Jackie's Career |
| Quote: I know what "waaa" means I just have no idea what your comeback means... "waah no civil war?" |
Riiight. Because you're not the least bit disappointed at how things are improving in Iraq.
Tell me another one. :p
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
So yet again we have morons like you being duped by yet another stupid slogan... |
No, you wish it was another slogan. That's your whole problem. Unfortunately for you it's cold hard stats: http://icasualties.org/oif/
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| zimmie |
| Watching the surge work has been one of the biggest disappointments for the liberals in quite a while. They would much rather have seen US casualties increase instead of decrease. |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Watching the surge work has been one of the biggest disappointments for the liberals in quite a while. They would much rather have seen US casualties increase instead of decrease. |
Exactly...
THe liberal wet dream was to be the video of the last US helicopter leaving Bagdhad after losing the war. |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
Exactly...
THe liberal wet dream was to be the video of the last US helicopter leaving Bagdhad after losing the war. |
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| Jackie's Career |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Watching the surge work has been one of the biggest disappointments for the liberals in quite a while. They would much rather have seen US casualties increase instead of decrease. |
It's kind of fun listening to them try to downplay it. My favorite is: "we're back to 2004 levels of violence". Uh, no, dickheads. Look at the numbers. They've never been this low for this long at any point.
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| sergiomaverick |
South Park creator Matt Stone said it best:
“I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.”
Bush is an idiot and has done a shitty job as president (especially getting us into this mess that is Iraq) however.....
It will only get worse if liberals take over. They've already ruined this country enough and I can only imagine what they have planned.
Liberalism is a mental disorder plain and simple. |
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