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| Stonewall |
This will do nothing but help. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| It helps for the people who don't think he is a progressive. I think its pretty impressive when a guy can get the support of Daily Kos and MoveOn.Org, and yet also get lots of support from independent groups and even republicans. It shows how big of a landslide he will win by in November if he's the nominee. |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
It helps for the people who don't think he is a progressive. I think its pretty impressive when a guy can get the support of Daily Kos and MoveOn.Org, and yet also get lots of support from independent groups and even republicans. It shows how big of a landslide he will win by in November if he's the nominee. |
When will Gore bestow his blessing? |
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| danrich03 |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
When will Gore bestow his blessing? |
I've been wondering where the hell Gore is.
By most accounts, he does not like Hillary. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
When will Gore bestow his blessing? |
Thats a very good question... |
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| mb33139 |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
This will do nothing but help. |
Absolutely... it shows Obama's broad appeal. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Yeah, I'd want these people's endorsement -
Treasonous. |
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| mb33139 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Yeah, I'd want these people's endorsement -
Treasonous. |
You were one of those babbling about MoveOn.org being owned by the Clintons. What happened? |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
It helps for the people who don't think he is a progressive. I think its pretty impressive when a guy can get the support of Daily Kos and MoveOn.Org, and yet also get lots of support from independent groups and even republicans. It shows how big of a landslide he will win by in November if he's the nominee. |
It helps Hillary.
Anyone who would vote based upon a "Progressive" moveon is MAD.
Any Republican who would do so is confused.
The National Government is not supposed to be "Progressive". Play those games in your State. |
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| salafibrigades |
| moveon is brought to you by george soros |
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| Reverend Tyler |
:rolleyes:
Thank you for that stunning insight. Next you are gonna tell us that Media Matters is from David Brock |
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| mb33139 |
I heard Fox was brought to you by Rupert Murdoch.
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
It helps Hillary.
Anyone who would vote based upon a "Progressive" moveon is MAD.
Any Republican who would do so is confused.
The National Government is not supposed to be "Progressive". Play those games in your State. |
Agreed.
Being endorsed by far-left institutions like MoveOn.org and the Code Pink psychotics is a clear detriment to Obama. It's never good to be endorsed by the lunatic fringe. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by mb33139
You were one of those babbling about MoveOn.org being owned by the Clintons. What happened? |
They took a poll of their members - that's what happened.
MoveOn.org was established during the Clinton impeachment. Do your homework. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
They took a poll of their members - that's what happened.
MoveOn.org was established during the Clinton impeachment. Do your homework. |
wha?!? :jj:
what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? |
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| rogergrape |
I'm still waiting for the big time endorsement
who does fatpussies.com endorse? |
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| jigzaw |
| Shit. I keep teetering between Clinton and Obama. And though I slightly favor Clinton, moveon and Daily Kos are like kryptonite to me. Those fuckers are crazy. If they like Obama, that brings him down in my book. |
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| Stonewall |
I wonder just how far this health care thing will go.
You Lefties are setting us up for a real doozy. |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I wonder just how far this health care thing will go.
You Lefties are setting us up for a real doozy. |
Neither of them are going to push a singer payer system, even though Hillary is trying to have it both ways by saying her plan is a path to single payer.
Both plans pay subsidies to those who are uninsured and hopefully those that are truly in the middle, meaning they make too much to qualify for the real single-payer insurance which is medi-care and not enough to afford their own.
This is something that needs to be done. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
Neither of them are going to push a singer payer system, even though Hillary is trying to have it both ways by saying her plan is a path to single payer.
Both plans pay subsidies to those who are uninsured and hopefully those that are truly in the middle, meaning they make too much to qualify for the real single-payer insurance which is medi-care and not enough to afford their own.
This is something that needs to be done. |
It is not something that needs to be done.
If anything needs to be done go to your State government and tell them. |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
It is not something that needs to be done.
If anything needs to be done go to your State government and tell them. |
I differ with you here. I believe health care is a right in this country. Right now we don't let uninsured people rot and die if they get sick, well almost never. Now, the system just makes more money just because they are uninsured and they end up fucking the government out of more money than had the patient been insured.
The government is already paying, meaning me and you, so there has to be a way to control costs under a common plan. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
Shit. I keep teetering between Clinton and Obama. And though I slightly favor Clinton, moveon and Daily Kos are like kryptonite to me. Those fuckers are crazy. If they like Obama, that brings him down in my book. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheTurd
They took a poll of their members - that's what happened.
MoveOn.org was established during the Clinton impeachment. Do your homework. |
:lol:
What a witless fuck-tard!!!!
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by mb33139
MoveOn.org has officially endorsed Obama... |
Its only logical....he's the most "progressive" candidate left....
K-dog/Edwards '08 RIP
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
I differ with you here. I believe health care is a right in this country. Right now we don't let uninsured people rot and die if they get sick, well almost never. Now, the system just makes more money just because they are uninsured and they end up fucking the government out of more money than had the patient been insured.
The government is already paying, meaning me and you, so there has to be a way to control costs under a common plan. |
The National Government has no power to involve itself. This is a State issue and if a right does exist than it'll be a State right. |
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| Jack Shit |
| Jack Shit: Card carrying member of MOVEON.ORG. :yesshake: |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by mb33139
I heard Fox was brought to you by Rupert Murdoch. |
Can't forget the other favorite "creator" of right-wing propag....er...."news"....
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
They took a poll of their members - that's what happened.
MoveOn.org was established during the Clinton impeachment. Do your homework. |
:jj: you aren't being serious here, are you?
And moveon endorsing him will only hurt his campaign. He isn't wavering on policy, but he doesn't need a plug on their site to provide fodder for the daily talk radio crew.
Looks like Fox News is hurting from its conservative leanings, they really are scrambling to find new ways to cover the democrats :jj:
I turned on Fox, late at night a couple of weeks ago. It was a typical mclaughlin report type set up being treated as news ...
the shit they were spewing about Obama, almost exclusively about race and his middle name, was reprehensible. Looked like a fucking hitler youth convention. :rolleyes: |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Stumpedwall
I wonder just how far this health care thing will go.
You Lefties are setting us up for a real doozy. |
Yeah, cuz there are no other examples from which we can predict/learn/modify....
.....oh, wait....I forgot about THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD....
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I wonder just how far this health care thing will go.
You Lefties are setting us up for a real doozy. |
Oh, no you didn't. Our system is so inefficient and costly its really beyond laughable right now.
I love conservatives that loyally back our military yet suddenly become paranoid at the very notion of public health care :jj: :ok:
Health Care of all citizens is the number one determining factor at improving GDP....
now, if you refute this, just be prepared :evil: |
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| cptgarf |
| take it from someone who has been over there a few times......these people are un-informed idiots who get all of their information from the liberal media. I wish people had just the basic education to understand simple concepts of how the world truly is. Good thing we are the most powerful nation in the world and people are afraid that we may roll into their country for the sake of or president's ego, otherwise we may go the way of the Roman and British empire. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by modeams
Oh, no you didn't. Our system is so inefficient and costly its really beyond laughable right now.
I love conservatives that loyally back our military yet suddenly become paranoid at the very notion of public health care :jj: :ok:
Health Care of all citizens is the number one determining factor at improving GDP....
now, if you refute this, just be prepared :evil: |
It might be the greatest smartest most fantastic thing in the whole world, I don't care. Get a Constitutional Amendment that hands over some power and restrains the rest. Because the national government is gonna take and take power. It's going to grow and grow.
Like everything else.
And the government is going to invent new ways to screw things up. These are politicians we are talking about. Politicians that spend money that does not exist. Look at Social Security.
After Katrina at least we could say, "well, at least they don't control health care". What will we say when they screw that up? "Well at least they don't control... ahh...ahhh, oh I guess they control everything."
The National Government has very specific powers. Powers not given belong to the States and or the citizens of those States. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
I differ with you here. I believe health care is a right in this country. |
Health care is a "right?"
Well, how about food. Most people don't need to see a doctor every week but all people need to eat.
How about universal water? We all need to drink everyday. Sure is essential to good health.
How about universal housing? Everyone should have a "right" to proper shelter.
How about universal heat?
Please stop me where you think our "rights" end.
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Health care is a "right?"
Well, how about food. |
food too
human rights |
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
It might be the greatest smartest most fantastic thing in the whole world, I don't care. Get a Constitutional Amendment that hands over some power and restrains the rest. Because the national government is gonna take and take power. It's going to grow and grow.
Like everything else.
And the government is going to invent new ways to screw things up. These are politicians we are talking about. Politicians that spend money that does not exist. Look at Social Security.
After Katrina at least we could say, "well, at least they don't control health care". What will we say when they screw that up? "Well at least they don't control... ahh...ahhh, oh I guess they control everything."
The National Government has very specific powers. Powers not given belong to the States and or the citizens of those States. |
Social security is an excellent example, but health care couldn't be managed worse than it is now. I love this vague notion of "big government" and bureaucratic red tape, like the republicans haven't blown it into its current mess. So much for being fiscally conservative.
Ok, lets put asside the human decency benefit of public health care for a second,
if you want success as a country, you need to ensure that healthcare is being provided for all. Its a sound investment that pays off.
Think about it, take a large company like FedEx (Air, Freight, Ground, Special Services, Kinkos) , they have a group plan with Blue Cross of California... they contribute an obscene amount per employee ( you ever see those crack addicts working the grave shift at kinkos :jj: )
All of those employees also pay into the plan. Than FedEx and its employees are taxed for medicade etc on April 15th... its obnoxious and ineficent and benefits no one.
Take a look at this lecture, believe me its worth the 10 minutes. Its all crude data, standard deviations and real unbiased analysis. Most of our world relief abroad has gone to waste, not surprisingly (because Africa will always be a corrupt hell hole).... the only thing that has held up is health care at making a markable difference.
Debunking third-world myths
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/92
The Trendalyzer software (recently acquired by Google) turns complex global trends into lively animations, making decades of data pop. Asian countries, as colorful bubbles, float across the grid -- toward better national health and wealth. Animated bell curves representing national income distribution squish and flatten. In Rosling's hands, global trends -- life expectancy, child mortality, poverty rates -- become clear, intuitive and even playful.
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by mingmen
food too
human rights |
indeed... check out the link I posted above. |
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| jigzaw |
Quote: Originally posted by mingmen
food too
human rights |
Nonsense. Rights are the freedom to act. The freedom to do what you need to do or want to do. You have the right to buy/grow/produce food, for example. A "right" isn't a claim to force other people to give you free shit, it's simply the freedom to go get your own shit. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
Nonsense. Rights are the freedom to act. The freedom to do what you need to do or want to do. You have the right to buy/grow/produce food, for example. A "right" isn't a claim to force other people to give you free shit, it's simply the freedom to go get your own shit. |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Health care is a "right?"
Well, how about food. Most people don't need to see a doctor every week but all people need to eat.
How about universal water? We all need to drink everyday. Sure is essential to good health.
How about universal housing? Everyone should have a "right" to proper shelter.
How about universal heat?
Please stop me where you think our "rights" end.
:rolleyes: |
Health care is different because it is an insurable risk, unlike anything in your reducto ad absurdum list.
If a country cannot deliver health care to its citizens, why even bother having one? :dontknow: |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by modeams
Social security is an excellent example, but health care couldn't be managed worse than it is now. I love this vague notion of "big government" and bureaucratic red tape, like the republicans haven't blown it into its current mess. So much for being fiscally conservative.
Ok, lets put asside the human decency benefit of public health care for a second,
if you want success as a country, you need to ensure that healthcare is being provided for all. Its a sound investment that pays off.
Think about it, take a large company like FedEx (Air, Freight, Ground, Special Services, Kinkos) , they have a group plan with Blue Cross of California... they contribute an obscene amount per employee ( you ever see those crack addicts working the grave shift at kinkos :jj: )
All of those employees also pay into the plan. Than FedEx and its employees are taxed for medicade etc on April 15th... its obnoxious and ineficent and benefits no one.
Take a look at this lecture, believe me its worth the 10 minutes. Its all crude data, standard deviations and real unbiased analysis. Most of our world relief abroad has gone to waste, not surprisingly (because Africa will always be a corrupt hell hole).... the only thing that has held up is health care at making a markable difference.
Debunking third-world myths
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/92
The Trendalyzer software (recently acquired by Google) turns complex global trends into lively animations, making decades of data pop. Asian countries, as colorful bubbles, float across the grid -- toward better national health and wealth. Animated bell curves representing national income distribution squish and flatten. In Rosling's hands, global trends -- life expectancy, child mortality, poverty rates -- become clear, intuitive and even playful. |
Yours is a very good position.
Here is the thing, use it to get an amendment. All I ask is for control of the beast. Had that been done with Social Security all of the money would be there and if it was not it was because we had decided to amend that.
The whole idea of our system is that citizens are in charge.
It's all about accountability. We cannot vote for the representatives in another State. So mistakes they make that hurt us must be limited. That is one reason why the Constitution has very specific powers because eventually you will lose all accountability. Most power is within the State because there you have accountability. Your Representatives and State may vote against a Health Care Plan and have no input whatsoever in it. But, you will still suffer when it goes down and who can you hold accountable? Who can you vote out? No one. So you have to limit the National Government to things that the States cannot handle alone or it is in the interest of all the States to have a unified system. And when you see that interest, like you have here, then you get an amendment. You do your best in that amendment to limit the power you are giving the national government. You may think that a national sales tax be used and a fund set up for the single purpose of funding this system and no other. The citizens have to become involved in this or you will end up with a non-working system and expanded Federal power. |
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| mb33139 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
They took a poll of their members - that's what happened.
MoveOn.org was established during the Clinton impeachment. Do your homework. |
I see.. So in the up=down, bizarro world in which you live, the Clintons own MoveOn.org and allowed a public poll which endorsed Obama. This coming from you who believes MoveOn.org lies in every press release and item of information from that site.
Puhhleeez. |
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Yours is a very good position.
Here is the thing, use it to get an amendment. All I ask is for control of the beast. Had that been done with Social Security all of the money would be there and if it was not it was because we had decided to amend that.
The whole idea of our system is that citizens are in charge.
It's all about accountability. We cannot vote for the representatives in another State. So mistakes they make that hurt us must be limited. That is one reason why the Constitution has very specific powers because eventually you will lose all accountability. Most power is within the State because there you have accountability. Your Representatives and State may vote against a Health Care Plan and have no input whatsoever in it. But, you will still suffer when it goes down and who can you hold accountable? Who can you vote out? No one. So you have to limit the National Government to things that the States cannot handle alone or it is in the interest of all the States to have a unified system. And when you see that interest, like you have here, then you get an amendment. You do your best in that amendment to limit the power you are giving the national government. You may think that a national sales tax be used and a fund set up for the single purpose of funding this system and no other. The citizens have to become involved in this or you will end up with a non-working system and expanded Federal power. |
I think many states have tried to offer some for of health care to those who are rejected from private insurance firms and it doesn't work. I'll throw an example out there that I've personally seen a few times:
I had a friend who suffered from depression while in college. She was covered under insurance by under her parents. She received treatment and quickly recovered. I've taken a look at her records, and although I'm no expert she was in fantastic shape, no record of any other illness.
She than moved to Colorado to started up her own business, its still flourishing today.
But guess what?
Because she was being proactive about her medical condition and received a diagnosis
Because she didn't fucking slit her wrists or wait until she was self medicating with alcohol and drugs...
She was denied (applied to 4 HMOs)
She was honest and was punished for it.
This next part gets better:
So she applies for the insurance, COVER COLORADO that her state offers (which helps people get covered who were rejected).
SHE WAS REJECTED because YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT FOR 6 MONTHS before you can get any kind of coverage.
And last but not least:
She broke her arm three months before getting coverage.
Slipped on an icy patch in front of her buissnes. No, she wasn't going to sue anyone...
she is still paying off her credit card debt for the ER visit. :rolleyes:
Her business could be even more successful if she didn't have that fucking headache to deal with. :cheer: entrepreneurship and capitalism
Your point about social security has me thinking, there is a good chance most of us will never see a dime. My grandmother, god bless her soul, gets a nice check every month, but hardly paid into the system at all. Anyway, I'll have to read up a bit more on it... |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by modeams
I think many states have tried to offer some for of health care to those who are rejected from private insurance firms and it doesn't work. I'll throw an example out there that I've personally seen a few times:
I had a friend who suffered from depression while in college. She was covered under insurance by under her parents. She received treatment and quickly recovered. I've taken a look at her records, and although I'm no expert she was in fantastic shape, no record of any other illness.
She than moved to Colorado to started up her own business, its still flourishing today.
But guess what?
Because she was being proactive about her medical condition and received a diagnosis
Because she didn't fucking slit her wrists or wait until she was self medicating with alcohol and drugs...
She was denied (applied to 4 HMOs)
She was honest and was punished for it.
This next part gets better:
So she applies for the insurance, COVER COLORADO that her state offers (which helps people get covered who were rejected).
SHE WAS REJECTED because YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT FOR 6 MONTHS before you can get any kind of coverage.
And last but not least:
She broke her arm three months before getting coverage.
Slipped on an icy patch in front of her buissnes. No, she wasn't going to sue anyone...
she is still paying off her credit card debt for the ER visit. :rolleyes:
Her business could be even more successful if she didn't have that fucking headache to deal with. :cheer: entrepreneurship and capitalism
Your point about social security has me thinking, there is a good chance most of us will never see a dime. My grandmother, god bless her soul, gets a nice check every month, but hardly paid into the system at all. Anyway, I'll have to read up a bit more on it... |
This is a very telling and important point. The number one cause of bankruptcy in this country is medical care. The system we have just stinks. Its designed to be there when you don't need it because thats when the bloody health care corporation make the make money.
No one should have to lose everything just because they get sick. Sure, the insurance company doesn't have to pay but then society has to absorb yet another citizen broken by the system. |
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| modeams |
| NC-Stern, I thought you were for private health care? Now I'm confused... |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Jack Shit
Health care is different because it is an insurable risk, unlike anything in your reducto ad absurdum list.
If a country cannot deliver health care to its citizens, why even bother having one? :dontknow: |
Humm, why don't you ask the California legislature how their grand plans to get health care to all of the people in that state is going? |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Humm, why don't you ask the California legislature how their grand plans to get health care to all of the people in that state is going? |
What the fuck does that have to do with it, you idiot? :doh: |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Jack Shit
What the fuck does that have to do with it, you idiot? :doh: |
If the California legislature deems it too costly to provide health care to everyone in California, then how do you expect the federal government to do it when over half the federal budget already goes to funding medicare and medicaid?
I can't wait to hear this.
Oh, and keep in mind that the vote in California was 7-1 against the measure due to costs, and those who voted against it were all Democrats. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by modeams
NC-Stern, I thought you were for private health care? Now I'm confused... |
the more you listen to her - you realize what a dichotomy she is
i.e.: votes republican for fear of the influence of multinational corporations :jj: |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
If the California legislature deems it too costly to provide health care to everyone in California, then how do you expect the federal government to do it when over half the federal budget already goes to funding medicare and medicaid?
I can't wait to hear this.
Oh, and keep in mind that the vote in California was 7-1 against the measure due to costs, and those who voted against it were all Democrats. |
www.barackobama.com
www.hillaryclinton.com
Do your own research, you lazy fuck. |
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| VacateTheWord |
:lol:
Yeah, to go along with baby bonds, universal pre-k, and whatever else Clinton is promising her target focus groups.
:rolleyes:
You'll believe anything Clinton tell you.
Pathetic. |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
:lol:
Yeah, to go along with baby bonds, universal pre-k, and whatever else Clinton is promising her target focus groups.
:rolleyes:
You'll believe anything Clinton tell you.
Pathetic. |
:lol: this is coming from a Bushie folks.....8 years of Bush is God keeping us safe.....LOL ( after 911 :D ) |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
:lol: this is coming from a Bushie folks.....8 years of Bush is God keeping us safe.....LOL ( after 911 :D ) |
Well, those are the facts. Over 6 years since 9/11 and the homeland has been kept safe by taking the fight to the enemy.
If Clinton is nominated, we'll see how many years of baby bonds and universal pre-K there will be. |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Well, those are the facts. Over 6 years since 9/11 and the homeland has been kept safe by taking the fight to the enemy.
If Clinton is nominated, we'll see how many years of baby bonds and universal pre-K there will be. |
:hw: Iraq attacked us how many times....? ( LOL )
You conveniently forgot the warnings your hero ignored leading up to the attacks in the first place ? |
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| harley-davidson |
| And by the way, I have no party ....their all fucking liars...repukes and Dems |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Well, those are the facts. Over 6 years since 9/11 and the homeland has been kept safe by taking the fight to the enemy.
If Clinton is nominated, we'll see how many years of baby bonds and universal pre-K there will be. |
Yeah, only one major American city was destroyed during the Bush era. Not that anyone noticed. "Heck of a job, Brownie." |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
:lol:
Yeah, to go along with baby bonds, universal pre-k, and whatever else Clinton is promising her target focus groups.
:rolleyes:
You'll believe anything Clinton tell you.
Pathetic. |
Hey genius, we already have the highest per capital spending on health care in the industrialized world under the current so-called "system." |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by modeams
NC-Stern, I thought you were for private health care? Now I'm confused... |
That would mean I want a bunch off asswipe corporate executives and pale, pasty corporate-bred accountants to make decisions on whether I live or die.
No Thank You. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Jack Shit
Yeah, only one major American city was destroyed during the Bush era. Not that anyone noticed. "Heck of a job, Brownie." |
You are a dipshit. Worse, you are in the Bush Derangement Syndrome camp.
What should the President have done - wave his magic wand and lead the Hurricane out to sea?
Blaming President Bush on Hurricane Katrina proves that you are a mental case.
Hey, I've been waiting for almost 5 hours for maintenance to come fix my water heater. I'm sure you can play 6 Degrees to President Bush and pin the fact that the guy is over an hour past his time frame on him. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
That would mean I want a bunch off asswipe corporate executives and pale, pasty corporate-bred accountants to make decisions on whether I live or die.
No Thank You. |
Yes, it would be far better to be put in the capable hands of government beurocrats.
:rolleyes: |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
You are a dipshit. Worse, you are in the Bush Derangement Syndrome camp.
What should the President have done - wave his magic wand and lead the Hurricane out to sea?
Blaming President Bush on Hurricane Katrina proves that you are a mental case.
Hey, I've been waiting for almost 5 hours for maintenance to come fix my water heater. I'm sure you can play 6 Degrees to President Bush and pin the fact that the guy is over an hour past his time frame on him. |
If he doesn't show up in the next two and half years, get back to us... |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Yes, it would be far better to be put in the capable hands of government beurocrats.
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I agree. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
If he doesn't show up in the next two and half years, get back to us... |
He showed. He found some dust on the vent and figures that's why the pilot won't stay lit. The vent wasn't anywhere near blocked, so I think he just wants to get done for today and get to the Super Bowl - we'll see. |
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Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Yes, it would be far better to be put in the capable hands of government beurocrats.
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you trust them to defend our lives but not treat our illnesses? Its an inefficient, corrupt system.
Stop being paranoid :hw: |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
You are a dipshit. Worse, you are in the Bush Derangement Syndrome camp.
What should the President have done - wave his magic wand and lead the Hurricane out to sea?
Blaming President Bush on Hurricane Katrina proves that you are a mental case.
Hey, I've been waiting for almost 5 hours for maintenance to come fix my water heater. I'm sure you can play 6 Degrees to President Bush and pin the fact that the guy is over an hour past his time frame on him. |
He could have put down the guitar, for starters. |
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