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jetdog

Obama won the Maine caucuses easily, more than 46,000 participated including 4000 who used absentee ballots, crushing the record of 17,000 from 2004. 29,000 more, think Bush and his insane policies haven't pissed people off big time? Obama is a fucking rock star, and Howard might want to get informed when talking about him for a change. He kicked Clintons ass, big time, in a number of states this weekend. These people in Maine stood in lines that took hours to get through, in winter storms dumping snow on them, the Republicans might as well quit spending money on this election.

mike0905

Ohio and Texas, and possibly PA. They hold actual primaries, millions of voters, polls open all day so people who work can vote instead of 18 year olds living at Mom and Dad's home. They can cut classes to caucus, their parents can't cut work to caucus. So onto actual primaries in those three states with millions of primary voters vs. a thousand in caucus.

Plus, I'm not voting for a half-monkey and his monkey wife.

Plus,Plus, Hillary won Cali,Ny, Tenn, Arizona, NJ and Mass. the states that count.

emtfromny2

I know they discuss this on the show, but there is a politics forum for those that want to pontificate about the election.

mike0905

Moderator, please move this to the politics forum.

inta

Howard is severely uninformed on Obama.

He supports Hillary because he remembers the economy being good in the 90s.
but the economy was going to be good for any president... the internet/tech boom was going to happen no matter what.

honestly it's for the best he doesn't support Obama... stern endorsements tend to fall flat (see also, john kerry)

thirdeyeblind46

Michigan and Florida are going to determine the winners, obama owns the caucuses and we are heading for them in both those states.

inta

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905

Plus,Plus, Hillary won Tenn, Arizona, NJ and Mass. the states that count.

ROFL.

that's comedy!

mike0905

Dumbass, Michigan and Florida already voted, Hillary won them. Old jews living in Florida aren't gonna support a muslim for president.

mucksp

Do the senior voters, who the majority of which have been supporting Clinton, cut classes as well or leave mom and dad's home to go vote?

Way to fail. Too bad your vote counts as much as mine.

mucksp

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905
Dumbass, Michigan and Florida already voted, Hillary won them. Old jews living in Florida aren't gonna support a muslim for president.

Ahhh I see what you're doing. Your troll-fu needs a little work. And this thread needs to be moved.

FlaFlaFlunkie

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905
Dumbass, Michigan and Florida already voted, Hillary won them. Old jews living in Florida aren't gonna support a muslim for president.

Obama's not a muslim, dumbass.

And...

Michigan and Florida's delegates won't be seated, so Hillary's victory won't count for anything.

If she attempts to get them seated, there's going to be Hell in the Democratic party.

Cnote187

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905
Ohio and Texas, and possibly PA. They hold actual primaries, millions of voters, polls open all day so people who work can vote instead of 18 year olds living at Mom and Dad's home. They can cut classes to caucus, their parents can't cut work to caucus. So onto actual primaries in those three states with millions of primary voters vs. a thousand in caucus.

Plus, I'm not voting for a half-monkey and his monkey wife.

Plus,Plus, Hillary won Cali,Ny, Tenn, Arizona, NJ and Mass. the states that count.

what a dummy you are :rolleyes:

Boyo

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905
Dumbass, Michigan and Florida already voted, Hillary won them. Old jews living in Florida aren't gonna support a muslim for president.

A muslim? do you ever read the fucking papers douchebag? He's Christian, ya dumb cunt....

Purity Knight

Quote: Originally posted by Boyo
A muslim? do you ever read the fucking papers douchebag? He's Christian, ya dumb cunt....

He already called Obama a half monkey and his wife a monkey. Obviously this guy just has an agenda of hate. No sense in arguing with trolls.

ZiggynUSC

I can't vote for him his name is to close to two of are worst enemys, Osama bin laden an Saddam Huesain, this guy might be a plant.

VA_siCkBoy

Obama was here in Virginia Beach last night and 18,000 people showed up at the rally.

choppers

muslim.......haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

thirdeyeblind46

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905
Dumbass, Michigan and Florida already voted, Hillary won them. Old jews living in Florida aren't gonna support a muslim for president.

Its easy to win a state dumbass when your the only person on the balot in Michigan, as Hilary was. In Florida Hilary only won on her name CLINTON because they were not able to campaign once people understand the issues and vote on them it will be a different result. What don't you get Obama dominates any caucus because its a smaller scale and Obama's supporters are able to convince more people to go to their side. Maybe you should learn a thing or two about politics, and start reading the news paper before you open your mouth, prick.

lao tzu

Quote: Originally posted by Boyo
A muslim? do you ever read the fucking papers douchebag? He's Christian, ya dumb cunt....

I BET YA HE READS THE FUNNIES...

nobody

Quote: Originally posted by ZiggynUSC
I can't vote for him his name is to close to two of are worst enemys, Osama bin laden an Saddam Huesain, this guy might be a plant.

joke or not its that kind of stupid thinking that gave up george w bush

JUST1COMMENT

Quote: Originally posted by ZiggynUSC
I can't vote for him his name is to close to two of are worst enemys, Osama bin laden an Saddam Huesain, this guy might be a plant.

Yes, two of "are" worst "enemys" :rolleyes: (So many other misspellings, my heads going to explode. Yeah, these are the idiots we need to let vote).

The GOP is constantly proving how incredibly stupid and hypocritical they are. They speak of no handouts, no Affirmative Action, EARNING YOUR OWN WAY, etc. Yet... they have no problem voting for a complete moron that had everything handed to him, including his entry into the Ivy League.

Obama got into Harvard by earning it and was elected President of the HLR; the same can be said about Bill Clinton's rise (too easy) to prominence. Both of these men earned every God damned thing in life, yet it seems the GOP prefers to cheer on molly-coddled shitheads who cannot relate to them, and have no concept of what it is like to work for what you have in life. It makes no fucking sense.

And the GOP ought to be fucking embarrassed by trying to push this "Muslim" thing. As if the NeoCons who took control like starving jackals for the sole purpose (pre-9-11) of starting wars left and right, have done sooo much to improve this nation's standing. It's no longer a matter of "image." It's in absolute disrepair, and if you honestly believe we don't need to show the rest of the world that we're willing to make a dramatic change, then fuck you. If you go overseas, wipe your ass with the dollar because it's cheaper than buying toilet paper.

FlaFlaFlunkie

:bigclap:

mike0905

Quote: Originally posted by JUST1COMMENT
Yes, two of "are" worst "enemys" :rolleyes: (So many other misspellings, my heads going to explode. Yeah, these are the idiots we need to let vote).

The GOP is constantly proving how incredibly stupid and hypocritical they are. They speak of no handouts, no Affirmative Action, EARNING YOUR OWN WAY, etc. Yet... they have no problem voting for a complete moron that had everything handed to him, including his entry into the Ivy League.

Obama got into Harvard by earning it and was elected President of the HLR; the same can be said about Bill Clinton's rise (too easy) to prominence. Both of these men earned every God damned thing in life, yet it seems the GOP prefers to cheer on molly-coddled shitheads who cannot relate to them, and have no concept of what it is like to work for what you have in life. It makes no fucking sense.

And the GOP ought to be fucking embarrassed by trying to push this "Muslim" thing. As if the NeoCons who took control like starving jackals for the sole purpose (pre-9-11) of starting wars left and right, have done sooo much to improve this nation's standing. It's no longer a matter of "image." It's in absolute disrepair, and if you honestly believe we don't need to show the rest of the world that we're willing to make a dramatic change, then fuck you. If you go overseas, wipe your ass with the dollar because it's cheaper than buying toilet paper.

OBAMA GOT INTO HARVARD BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, HE EVEN ADMITTED IT!

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A PERSON WHO REFUSES TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE AND ATTENDED A MUSLIM SCHOOL IN INDONESIA

FlaFlaFlunkie

Something tells me you couldn't find your way into a voting booth; let alone cast a vote for anyone in any election.

You can't even find your fucking caps lock button, douche.

Kilroy

McCain is your next president. Deal with it.

Purity Knight

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905
OBAMA GOT INTO HARVARD BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, HE EVEN ADMITTED IT!

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A PERSON WHO REFUSES TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE AND ATTENDED A MUSLIM SCHOOL IN INDONESIA

Yes because when he was SIX FUCKING YEARS OLD he really had a choice to what school he attended. He's been a Christian almost all of his life.

You are such a clueless asshole. People like you are what's wrong with this country. Live with that fact you cockroach.

Kilgore Trout

Quote: Originally posted by Purity Knight
Yes because when he was SIX FUCKING YEARS OLD he really had a choice to what school he attended. He's been a Christian almost all of his life.

You are such a clueless asshole. People like you are what's wrong with this country. Live with that fact you cockroach.

Actually socialist scumbags like Obama and Hillary are what is wrong with this country.

Purity Knight

Quote: Originally posted by Kilgore Trout
Actually socialist scumbags like Obama and Hillary are what is wrong with this country.

What's right? Puppet moron Presidents sending us into the shitter like Bush?

Kilgore Trout

Quote: Originally posted by Purity Knight
What's right? Puppet moron Presidents sending us into the shitter like Bush?

Nope - a theocracy is just as bad as socialism

SwingOnThis

Quote: Originally posted by Boyo
A muslim? do you ever read the fucking papers douchebag? He's Christian, ya dumb cunt....

Who the fuck cares what fairy tail he claims to believe in order to pander to the weak-minded religious retards? The Muslim 'god' is the SAME as the Judeo-Christian 'god' anyway.

Epsilon

Quote: Originally posted by mike0905
Plus, I'm not voting for a half-monkey and his monkey wife.

Oh, there's a mature position. The fact is Clinton carries a lot of baggage that Obama doesn't have, and he's got a better plan on health care, among other things. He's a squeaky clean candidate with no known skeletons in the closet. If more people think like you and end up passing on the best qualified candidate in this race to make a change in this country, that would be a damn shame. And voting another Republican into the White House right now would be a fucking travesty.

JUST1COMMENT

So this ignorance falls under the "Virginia" part, yes? Shocking. The caps weren't necessary, your stupidity is crystal clear. I'm so ashamed of people like you. You vote for coddled clowns with nothing to offer you but debt, global hatred, and faux patriotism. And you base your voting on what school a guy attended as a child. A NORMAL FUCKING school that was actually featured on CNN, showing that kids of all religions actually attend. Hey, dummy, file this under the fairytales you were told about Pat Tillman.

I'm so incredibly embarrassed for you. Again, the fact you would put these "thoughts" into CAPS reveals a need to weed out the undesirables in our society.

Epsilon

Quote: Originally posted by Kilgore Trout
Actually socialist scumbags like Obama and Hillary are what is wrong with this country.

Have you seen what Bush has done to us in the last seven years? The Clinton years were pretty damn good for America. If that's "socialism", I want it back.

SwingOnThis

You're a fucking retard. Who gives a fuck if he attended a muslim school? How is that any worse than a christian school? They're all brainwashing factories.

And turn off the caps lock, stupid. :rolleyes:

modeams

"monkey, muslim " etc.... are people this fucking stupid? During the bee cuticle commercials pick up a paper :hw:

lao tzu

CONGRATULATIONS YOU'RE A FUCKING GREEN DAY SONG STOOPID....

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by SwingOnThis
You're a fucking retard. Who gives a fuck if he attended a muslim school? How is that any worse than a christian school? They're all brainwashing factories.

And turn off the caps lock, stupid. :rolleyes:

Its his thing :rolleyes:
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/foru...threadid=335109

lojopgh

Obama doesn't have a chance of getting elected president. America is too racist of a nation. But being a Republican, I am really pulling for Obama to win the Democrat nomination. That would practically gaurantee a Republican victory in the election. I think the dems know this and they're not going to choose him for their candidate.

What's funny is that this is the Democrats best(easiest) shot at the whitehouse in 8 years and all they have to offer is a woman and a black man. ROFLMAO!

tedeso

Quote: Originally posted by inta
Howard is severely uninformed on Obama.

He supports Hillary because he remembers the economy being good in the 90s.
but the economy was going to be good for any president... the internet/tech boom was going to happen no matter what.

honestly it's for the best he doesn't support Obama... stern endorsements tend to fall flat (see also, john kerry)

you my friend are right on the money and Howard has selective memory because this country was in a recession for clintons last 2 years. Mrs clinton talks about bushie inherrenting a surplus but she forgets she voted for all spending for the war in Iraq and afganistan.

lao tzu

(post #38)
Obama doesn't have a chance of getting elected president. America is too racist of a nation. But being a Republican, I am really pulling for Obama to win the Democrat nomination. That would practically gaurantee a Republican victory in the election. I think the dems know this and they're not going to choose him for their candidate.

What's funny is that this is the Democrats best(easiest) shot at the whitehouse in 8 years and all they have to offer is a woman and a black man. ROFLMAO!

INDEED...

Nibbler

Obama may be a Christian, but, do you know the church he has worshipped in for 20 years?
The Trinity United Church of Christ, led and founded by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., who Obama considers an inspiration.
Do some research on Rev. Wright Jr. In his sermons he often preaches about fighting against White Supremacy and how white people are repressing black folks. He was going to go to some rallies for Obama, but his sermons went public and he was mysteriously no where to be seen. The Obama camp said that he was media shy. The real reason was that he was seen as a racially divisive figure and Obama distanced himself from his "inspiration".
For 20 years this guy was OK for Obama to associate himself with. Now that he's running for President and needs the white vote, he swept this "inspiration" under the carpet.
Obama is a phony. All smoke and mirrors.

JUST1COMMENT

Quote: Originally posted by lojopgh
Obama doesn't have a chance of getting elected president. America is too racist of a nation. But being a Republican, I am really pulling for Obama to win the Democrat nomination. That would practically gaurantee a Republican victory in the election. I think the dems know this and they're not going to choose him for their candidate.

What's funny is that this is the Democrats best(easiest) shot at the whitehouse in 8 years and all they have to offer is a woman and a black man. ROFLMAO!

Why is this funny to you? Seriously. How is it funny to you that there are still so many pathetic assholes (like yourself) in this country who can't see beyond skin pigmentation or gender? This whole thing is anything but funny. It's a sad commentary on why this nation has become a shithole and people like you, the biggest turds in the bowl.

yomamma

Quote: Originally posted by jetdog
Obama is a fucking rock star

Yes he is. But if I want a rock star to be my president I'll vote for Keith Richards.

tedeso

obama won a grammy last night

Casinochild

Quote: Originally posted by Kilroy
McCain is your next president. Deal with it.

If McCain becomes president, the dollar WILL sink below the peso.

ricky

Barack Hussain Obama = Muslim Schvatza with a very good rap

discuss amongst yourselves.....

Jack Shit

Quote: Originally posted by ZiggynUSC
I can't vote for him his name is to close to two of are worst enemys, Osama bin laden an Saddam Huesain, this guy might be a plant.

Can't argue with that logic. His middle name is HUSSEIN!!!! OH NOES!!!!

Jack Shit

Quote: Originally posted by ricky
Barack Hussain Obama = Muslim Schvatza with a very good rap

discuss amongst yourselves.....

Eat of bowl of dicks, asshole.

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
Obama may be a Christian, but, do you know the church he has worshipped in for 20 years?
The Trinity United Church of Christ, led and founded by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., who Obama considers an inspiration.
Do some research on Rev. Wright Jr. In his sermons he often preaches about fighting against White Supremacy and how white people are repressing black folks. He was going to go to some rallies for Obama, but his sermons went public and he was mysteriously no where to be seen. The Obama camp said that he was media shy. The real reason was that he was seen as a racially divisive figure and Obama distanced himself from his "inspiration".
For 20 years this guy was OK for Obama to associate himself with. Now that he's running for President and needs the white vote, he swept this "inspiration" under the carpet.
Obama is a phony. All smoke and mirrors.

:lol: You paranoid delusions would have been better spent focusing on the occult like mega churches that many in the current administration belong to :hw:

How is Obama a phony? He's taught constitutional law for ten years at a top law school, he's served in state politics for 8 (which to true conservatives would be a blessing :rolleyes: ) and he is clear on his policies. Your cynicism is misguided :hw: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

edge710

It is mind numming to even think that during a time of war against radical muslims that there is even the idea of voting in or having a MUSLIM being considered for president, Borack HUSAIN Obama. It is so unbelievable I dont understand what is wrong with people. He was born to a radical muslim father then his mother remarried to another radical muslim, he attended a muslim school. Cant bury everything you were taught as a child sorry. Just like not honering the pledge of a legion or the American flag what the fuck, This is supposed to be the leader of the America and he cant honor the pledge or flag.
Last I check radical muslims hate america and seems his mother is one and so were his fathers

Doctor Ivan

Racial slurs are against the rules here sir... please refrain.

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by edge710
It is mind numming to even think that during a time of war against radical muslims that there is even the idea of voting in or having a MUSLIM being considered for president, Borack HUSAIN Obama. It is so unbelievable I dont understand what is wrong with people. He was born to a radical muslim father then his mother remarried to another radical muslim, he attended a muslim school. Cant bury everything you were taught as a child sorry. Just like not honering the pledge of a legion or the American flag what the fuck, This is supposed to be the leader of the America and he cant honor the pledge or flag.
Last I check radical muslims hate america and seems his mother is one and so were his fathers

You just have to give up sometimes, don't you :rolleyes:

Nibbler

Sorry, modeams. I'm not cynical, I'm realistic and my eyes are wide open. It is a fact that Obama has been a member of this church for 20 years and the sermons of the Rev. Wright Jr. have been documented. It is a fact that Obama has distanced himself fron the Rev. because he's seen as racially divisive.
I am not going to just rely on offical Barack Obama websites for information about this man that omit anything remotely negative. I'm not that easily led.

Reverend Tyler

His mom was agnostic.

His father was an atheist.

His step-father was a Muslim

His grandparents, who raised him most of his life, are Christian

It's called diversity

Reverend Tyler

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
Sorry, modeams. I'm not cynical, I'm realistic and my eyes are wide open. It is a fact that Obama has been a member of this church for 20 years and the sermons of the Rev. Wright Jr. have been documented. It is a fact that Obama has distanced himself fron the Rev. because he's seen as racially divisive.
I am not going to just rely on offical Barack Obama websites for information about this man that omit anything remotely negative. I'm not that easily led.

Why isn't the preacher/reverend of the church HIllary attends out stumping for her? How about John McCAin's? WHAT ARE TEHY TRYING TO HIDE!!!

Obama has said that Wright is like a member of his family...and like all families sometimes you can disagree, even strongly, on some issues.

lojopgh

Quote: Originally posted by JUST1COMMENT
Why is this funny to you? Seriously. How is it funny to you that there are still so many pathetic assholes (like yourself) in this country who can't see beyond skin pigmentation or gender? This whole thing is anything but funny. It's a sad commentary on why this nation has become a shithole and people like you, the biggest turds in the bowl.

HEY ASSHOLE!! I am a white man married to a black woman. I have mixed children. I took my daughter out of a (Christian)school because people were calling her a monkey. Believe me I know about racism in this country, that was my whole point. It is a sad reality. And it is a reality that the Democrats should see. If they choose him they will lose. Dont get mad at me, i'm just being honest.

What's so funny isn't the fact that they're offering a woman and a black man, it's the fact that they can't see how racist this country is. You're saying it yourself, but yet you'll choose a black man for a candidate. It doesn't make sense. Not if you want to win.

Reverend Tyler

And yet he is winning all these all-white states by landslide margins....

Dakota4791

We've only had a Clinton or Bush for the last 20 years - we need someone different!!!
Go Obama!

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
Sorry, modeams. I'm not cynical, I'm realistic and my eyes are wide open. It is a fact that Obama has been a member of this church for 20 years and the sermons of the Rev. Wright Jr. have been documented. It is a fact that Obama has distanced himself fron the Rev. because he's seen as racially divisive.
I am not going to just rely on official Barack Obama websites for information about this man that omit anything remotely negative. I'm not that easily led.

The official website is for policy, you know, things he would do if elected commander in chief. And also you can see what he thinks about a plethora of issues without having it filtered into a 2 minute news story and decide for yourself :gs:
Or maybe you could link me to this lovely news story about Rev. Wright? :hhh:

Did you reserve the same sort of skepticism the past two elections? You know we are just finishing up with 8 years of "Jesus is my role model" , right?
There is nothing wrong with questioning the background of a candidate and the religious and corporate allegiances he may or may not have made in the past. But religion, thank god, is not part of his verbiage, nor should it be. I'd worry more about the constant pressure to implement Intelligent Design as an "alternative" to Evolution.
Look at the article by Peggy Noonan in the WSJ on Obama.

Purity Knight

And this person represents a lot of your voting public America. This is why we are fucked as a nation.

Purity Knight

Quote: Originally posted by lojopgh
You're saying it yourself, but yet you'll choose a black man for a candidate. It doesn't make sense. Not if you want to win.

Yes. Why try and put forth the most qualified candidates. Winning is the only thing that matters.

Congratulations. It's people like you that put Bush in the Whitehouse for 8 years. Asshole.

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by Purity Knight
And this person represents a lot of your voting public America. This is why we are fucked as a nation.

Hopefully its the minority... but I have a feeling its right around 49 % of the population.

JUST1COMMENT

Quote: Originally posted by lojopgh
HEY ASSHOLE!! I am a white man married to a black woman. I have mixed children. I took my daughter out of a (Christian)school because people were calling her a monkey. Believe me I know about racism in this country, that was my whole point. It is a sad reality. And it is a reality that the Democrats should see. If they choose him they will lose. Dont get mad at me, i'm just being honest.

What's so funny isn't the fact that they're offering a woman and a black man, it's the fact that they can't see how racist this country is. You're saying it yourself, but yet you'll choose a black man for a candidate. It doesn't make sense. Not if you want to win.

Well, all I can say is that I'm glad you didn't raise Barack Obama. You're essentially telling your own kids to aim low because of the idiots in this country. Fuck the idiots who look at the shallow reasons not to vote for someone. The media has created this perception that Obama can't win. There are people who wouldn't normally vote Dem who ARE voting Obama if he is the candidate. I think Hillary is the one that can't win. I always liked Bill, as President (yes, what a horrible time it was to live here in the 90s with an economic surplus and a strong dollar - oh, the humanity!), but people have such a low opinion of her for whatever reason. They're passionate in their hatred for the Clintons as the rest of us normal people in our hatred of Bush.

Obama is bringing out voters in every demo. He's refreshing. It took me this long before I realized I would vote for him. I was never a supporter of his, so I'm new to the bandwagon... once I realized McCain was it for the GOP. Christ, a man who actually makes Bush look like an improvement!

I'm for change and I'm for showing the global community (a world we desperately NEED to survive - deal with it because arrogance and ignorance can't be used as currency), that this nation also wants to purge itself of this disastrous ideology that has sunk us so low. I think Obama shows the world that we also want drastic change.

lojopgh

Quote: Originally posted by Purity Knight
Yes. Why try and put forth the most qualified candidates. Winning is the only thing that matters.

Congratulations. It's people like you that put Bush in the Whitehouse for 8 years. Asshole.

Hey I'm in your corner, I would love for Obama to win the democrat nomination. That means an easy Republican victory. Asshole!

SwingOnThis

You're a douche.

Nibbler

Quote: Originally posted by modeams
The official website is for policy, you know, things he would do if elected commander in chief. And also you can see what he thinks about a plethora of issues without having it filtered into a 2 minute news story and decide for yourself :gs:
Or maybe you could link me to this lovely news story about Rev. Wright? :hhh:

Did you reserve the same sort of skepticism the past two elections? You know we are just finishing up with 8 years of "Jesus is my role model" , right?
There is nothing wrong with questioning the background of a candidate and the religious and corporate allegiances he may or may not have made in the past. But religion, thank god, is not part of his verbiage, nor should it be. I'd worry more about the constant pressure to implement Intelligent Design as an "alternative" to Evolution.
Look at the article by Peggy Noonan in the WSJ on Obama.

It's not just about religion. But, if Obama has associated himself and has been inspired by a rev. preaching racial divisiveness, then his character comes into question. If Obama wrote in his autobiography about the "solace he found in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother's race", then certain questions should be raised. If he is now disassociating himself from the Rev. Wright Jr. because he may offend the whites, then it makes me want to know more about what Obama may not want the public to know.
Since we know everything about Hillary Clinton, good and bad, then I think it's only fair to know everything about Obama, other than he's "the chosen one", of course.
This is not the movie The Candidate, where someone was chosen because he spoke well , looked the part and had charisma.

SwingOnThis

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
It's not just about religion. But, if Obama has associated himself and has been inspired by a rev. preaching racial divisiveness, then his character comes into question. If Obama wrote in his autobiography about the "solace he found in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother's race", then certain questions should be raised. If he is now disassociating himself from the Rev. Wright Jr. because he may offend the whites, then it makes me want to know more about what Obama may not want the public to know.

You're just a douchy republican shill pretending that Obama's background 'offends' you, when in reality you've pulled the lever for Shit-for-brains George Bush twice and will pull the lever this time for whatever republican candidate is nominated.

Go turn on Limbaugh so you'll know what opinion to have next. :rolleyes:

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler

Since we know everything about Hillary Clinton, good and bad, then I think it's only fair to know everything about Obama, other than he's "the chosen one", of course.

I agree, you got that Rev Wright link yet?

SwingOnThis

Quote: Originally posted by modeams
I agree, you got that Rev Wright link yet?

I love when conservatives pretend to be outraged. Funny stuff.

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by SwingOnThis
I love when conservatives pretend to be outraged. Funny stuff.

The irony is of course, their brains have been hardwired over these past eight years to respond with "flight or fight", its fear and paranoia at its worse. Sounds like a theocracy to me :yes:

zimmie

Amazing how people are taken in by a good speaker......

.Here's someone that wants millions of illegals to be issued driver's licenses and millions of people are fawning all over him.....

Thats change alright.......

SwingOnThis

Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Amazing how people are taken in by a good speaker......

Well after 8 years of a stuttering fucking buffoon can you blame us?

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Amazing how people are taken in by a good speaker......
.Here's someone that wants millions of illegals to be issued driver's licenses and millions of people are fawning all over him.....
Thats change alright.......

Swoop on in, open your gaping asshole and take a nice big shit where ever you please don't you?
Can you at least bump your "time to declare war on Iran" thread?

ArivacaCharlie

Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Amazing how people are taken in by a good speaker......

.Here's someone that wants millions of illegals to be issued driver's licenses and millions of people are fawning all over him.....

Thats change alright.......

Just keep attacking the drivers' license idea. At least, it shows he's thinking.
Truthfully, I'm against that plan, too. Still, that is one of the few negatives. All in all, this is the best candidate that has come along in years.
I mentioned in another thread about speaking with a friend of mine from Hamburg. She says the Obama candidacy is exciting the European community as well. They believe Obama will bring about discussion and ideas. If he does nothing else, those alone are two things Bush was never able to accomplish.
So, do the math. If Obama does NOTHING, he has already done 200% more than Bush has done.

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Here's someone that wants millions of illegals to be issued driver's licenses and millions of people are fawning all over him.....

And one last thing, zimmie, as governor of Texas do you think he tried to protect "your" borders at all? Course not, you see the MinuteMen can get all the press, while the illegals are brought in by the 16 wheeler.
See, for the conservative, its instant gratification. Walmart is cheap, but we pay for their employees medicare bills later on. The cookie cutter homes in Plano are 30k less because they have hired Juan and Carlos from the local Home Depot. And we all end up paying for their childrens schooling and ER visit.
You think any of these people vote for the democratic party? :jj:

Good on you zimmie ;)

budgerock

Quote: Originally posted by edge710
...Just like not honering the pledge of a legion...

bwahaha 'Pledge of a Legion'

you FUCKING moron!

Please don't have children. Thanks for playing.

ArivacaCharlie

"Pledge of a legion????"
:lol:
Let me explain very simply: Obama is NOT a muslim.
Obviously, someone like you who was picked up every morning for school by the "special kids' bus" has a hard time following anything other than inaccurate emails circulating through cyberspace.
"Pledge of a legion????"
:lol:
Oh shit, that's good!

ArivacaCharlie

Quote: Originally posted by budgerock
bwahaha 'Pledge of a Legion'

you FUCKING moron!

Please don't have children. Thanks for playing.

I see you caught that "pledge of a legion" remark, too.
LMAO!!!!!!
Goddamn, that's funny!

SwingOnThis

christian = no problem
muslim = scary

:jj:

JUST1COMMENT

Quote: Originally posted by edge710
It is mind numming to even think that during a time of war against radical muslims that there is even the idea of voting in or having a MUSLIM being considered for president, Borack HUSAIN Obama. It is so unbelievable I dont understand what is wrong with people. He was born to a radical muslim father then his mother remarried to another radical muslim, he attended a muslim school. Cant bury everything you were taught as a child sorry. Just like not honering the pledge of a legion or the American flag what the fuck, This is supposed to be the leader of the America and he cant honor the pledge or flag.
Last I check radical muslims hate america and seems his mother is one and so were his fathers

No way is English your first language. NO. WAY.

SwingOnThis

Quote: Originally posted by edge710
mind numming

:jj:

FlaFlaFlunkie

I see no problem with inspiring people to buck back and fight those who repress them.

Your post is mind numming. :rolleyes:
Go back to school, dumbass.

Quote: Originally posted by modeams
Hopefully its the minority... but I have a feeling its right around 49 % of the population.

I don't think even that many people vote. In fact, I'm almost positive the voting percentage is nowhere near 49%.

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
It's not just about religion. But, if Obama has associated himself and has been inspired by a rev. preaching racial divisiveness, then his character comes into question.

So he listened to someone who preached something. It doesn't necessarily mean Obama shares all those beliefs. It could mean, however, that he once aligned himself with a source of power, or a source of pride, which many people who are oppressed wander towards to help ease the pain caused by oppression.

And "oppression" can be defined as "a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother's race."

I wouldn't be too hard on someone who's come out of that experience the way he has. He's the most inclusive candidate we've ever seen; he's even opened up to gay couples too; something considered political suicide.

BTW, I voted for Hillary.

A good website to help Dems decides is select2008.com. They let you pick your candidates and then ask you questions. Based on your answers, it tells you which candidate more closely resembles your position/beliefs.

Check it out.

Nibbler

Here is a link to an article about Obama's "inspiration" for the last 20 years, the Rev Jeremiah Wright Jr.www.newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_Churc...1/07/62285.html and another www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wrigh...1/14/64332.html

While I agree with FlaFlaFlunkie that inspiring people to rise above oppression is a good thing, I fail to see the "good" in Rev. Wright Jr's preachings. There's alot of hate in those words of inspiration. Obama has had a 20 year long association with Rev Wright Jr. I can't believe that Obama would stay with someone that long , call him an inspiration and even title a book after one of his sermons if he didn't share the same ideals.

Reverend Tyler

lol @ Newsmax

Nibbler

Quote: Originally posted by SwingOnThis
You're just a douchy republican shill pretending that Obama's background 'offends' you, when in reality you've pulled the lever for Shit-for-brains George Bush twice and will pull the lever this time for whatever republican candidate is nominated.

Go turn on Limbaugh so you'll know what opinion to have next. :rolleyes:

You have no idea how wrong you are. No wonder you support Obama. You make impulsive judgements with the upmost certainty without asking questions.

SwingOnThis

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler

While I agree with FlaFlaFlunkie that inspiring people to rise above oppression is a good thing, I fail to see the "good" in Rev. Wright Jr's preachings. There's alot of hate in those words of inspiration. Obama has had a 20 year long association with Rev Wright Jr. I can't believe that Obama would stay with someone that long , call him an inspiration and even title a book after one of his sermons if he didn't share the same ideals.

Our current president gets his inspiration from GOD and there's a whole book called the Old Testament that tells about all of the innocent people that he murdered.

No false outrage for that, Nibbler?

Nibbler

Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
lol @ Newsmax

It's OK to LOL at newsmax. Even though you're loling, the articles can still be varified as fact. They did not make up the award and honors that the church gave to Farrakhan. There are records of the sermons Rev. Wright Jr. gave. It's not fabricated material.

SwingOnThis

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
You have no idea how wrong you are. No wonder you support Obama. You make impulsive judgements with the upmost certainty without asking questions.

Show me where i said that i support Obama.

BarkonCue

"Pledge of a legion"

:jj: :jj: :jj:

Nibbler

Quote: Originally posted by SwingOnThis
Our current president gets his inspiration from GOD and there's a whole book called the Old Testament that tells about all of the innocent people that he murdered.

No false outrage for that, Nibbler?

The current President is insignificant. He is on his way out. But before we elect our future President, wouldn't it be wise to learn from past mistakes and delve a little deeper into all aspects of the candidates ideologies instead of just taking their word for it and believing what they want us to believe?

Nibbler

Quote: Originally posted by SwingOnThis
Show me where i said that i support Obama.

You're right. You did not say who you support. I am as guilty of jumping to conclusions as I accused you of!

Darb

Ya know what's cute? Obama is winning VERY white states. This racial outrage is only a deciding factor in states that a REPUBLICAN is going to win whether the Dem is white, black, or purple...

CA, NY, FL, IL, PA, OH, and MO will easily vote for Obama, and coincidentally enough those are the states that a Democrat must win to be elected.

I love stupid fucks who don't even understand the electoral system.

NOTE: To blunt the stupid reply that "there are racists everywhere"....yeah, no shit. Notice that I said a deciding factor(READ: a factor that influences enough people to tip the scales.)

Try as you might, you'll never convince me that there is more racism in the north + west than in the south.

And no, anecdotal stories about "this guy you know" in NYC don't count.

JUST1COMMENT

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
It's OK to LOL at newsmax. Even though you're loling, the articles can still be varified as fact. They did not make up the award and honors that the church gave to Farrakhan. There are records of the sermons Rev. Wright Jr. gave. It's not fabricated material.

But it's ok for Bush to meet with people who think 9-11 happened because of gays or call for the assassination of world leaders or speak at Bob Jones university?

Nibbler

Quote: Originally posted by JUST1COMMENT
But it's ok for Bush to meet with people who think 9-11 happened because of gays or call for the assassination of world leaders or speak at Bob Jones university?

Once again..what does Bush have to do with any of this?
Learn from the mistakes made by electing some one like Bush. Just because a candidate tosses around words like "uniter" and "change", has a certain amount of jovial charisma and likes to tell jokes, doesn't make him the best choice to run the country. Haven't we learned that by now?

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
Here is a link to an article about Obama's "inspiration" for the last 20 years, the Rev Jeremiah Wright Jr.www.newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_Churc...1/07/62285.html and another www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wrigh...1/14/64332.html

While I agree with FlaFlaFlunkie that inspiring people to rise above oppression is a good thing, I fail to see the "good" in Rev. Wright Jr's preachings. There's alot of hate in those words of inspiration. Obama has had a 20 year long association with Rev Wright Jr. I can't believe that Obama would stay with someone that long , call him an inspiration and even title a book after one of his sermons if he didn't share the same ideals.

:cool: I'll check it out

largest independent monthly with a conservative perspective :hhh:

modeams

Oh, god, this is choice, Lawrence Auster is a contributing editor :jj:

not like there is anything wrong with that. :hitler:

NC-Stern-Mark

Barack Obama?

The black guy who snorted coke, smoked dope, wants to take your guns, raise your taxes, give illegals licenses and hates whitey...

Yeah... He'll be elected President. :giggle:

modeams

Quote: Originally posted by Nibbler
Once again..what does Bush have to do with any of this?
Learn from the mistakes made by electing some one like Bush. Just because a candidate tosses around words like "uniter" and "change", has a certain amount of jovial charisma and likes to tell jokes, doesn't make him the best choice to run the country. Haven't we learned that by now?

So when are you actually going to look into his policies and see that the campaign is not immersed in rhetoric, or are you fulfilling your fox talking points for today :dontknow:

Darb

Quote: Originally posted by NC-Stern-Mark
Barack Obama?

The black guy who snorted coke, smoked dope, wants to take your guns, raise your taxes, give illegals licenses and hates whitey...

Yeah... He'll be elected President. :giggle:

:rolleyes:

modeams

What were you saying about Public Health care the other day, hypocrite?

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