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| Pussah2 |
DAMNING WORDS
REPORT: PETTITTE BACKED TRAINER VS. ROG
By BRIAN COSTELLO
February 12, 2008 -- Andy Pettitte was excused yesterday from testifying against his friend Roger ClemensRoger Clemens at a congressional hearing - but it appears Pettitte already has done plenty of damage to Clemens' contention that he never used steroids or human growth hormone.
Rep. Tom Davis, the ranking Republican on the congressional committee investigating steroid use in baseball, told Newsday that Pettitte, in his deposition last week, backed up the account of Brian McNamee, the former trainer of Clemens and Pettitte.
McNamee has said Clemens used steroids and human growth hormone.
Davis told the newspaper that Pettitte's testimony matches McNamee's in most details, but that Clemens, in his deposition last week, said both of them are mistaken.
Pettitte asked to be excused from tomorrow's congressional hearing so that he would not have to testify against Clemens, and the committee's leaders granted him his request. They also excused Kirk Radomski and Chuck Knoblauch from the hearing, and Radomski from giving a deposition today.
That leaves Clemens and his accuser, McNamee, in a showdown tomorrow. They will be joined by one new witness, a member of former Senator George Mitchell's staff, Charlie Scheeler.
The move to excuse Pettitte, Knoblauch and Radomski came last night after discussions between the leadership of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
A source indicated to The Post that Pettitte verified a story McNamee told in his deposition about training at Clemens' home in 2002 with both Clemens and Pettitte. McNamee said that during a break, Pettitte said to him something like, "How come you don't give me the same stuff you give Roger?" indicating Clemens told Pettitte about his human growth hormone use.
Newsday reported that Clemens said in his affidavit that he spoke with Pettitte about medications, but not steroids or HGH.
One of Pettitte's lawyers declined comment when reached last night.
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), chairman of the committee, and Davis (R-Va.) put out a joint statement announcing the removal of the three witnesses.
"Mr. Knoblauch and Mr. Pettitte answered all the Committee's questions and their testimony at the hearing is not needed," the statement read. "Mr. Clemens and Mr. McNamee have also cooperated with the Committee in its investigation."
Pettitte gave a deposition to the committee under oath on Feb. 4 that lasted for two and a half hours.
Clemens' lawyers said their client will stick to his denial that he ever used steroids or HGH.
"I think Andy Pettitte should do whatever is in Andy's best interest and whatever he thinks is best," said Lanny Breuer, one of Clemens' lawyers. "Roger Clemens is going to testify on Wednesday. He'll answer everything truthfully and forthrightly as he's done since the very beginning."
The committee can use Pettitte's deposition during the hearing and ask Clemens or McNamee about anything in Pettitte's testimony. It also will be part of the public record of the hearing.
Sparing him a trip to Capitol Hill appears to be a sign committee members believe Pettitte cooperated fully with their investigation, and that they do not need any more testimony from him. A source also said Pettitte was not a great witness in that his answers sometimes contradicted each other, and there was some fear of putting him in front of the committee with a national television audience watching.
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| nuge67 |
| This means nothing legally UNLESS Andy says he seen Bruce inject Clemens, even then it's Andy and Bruce's word vs Roger's word. |
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| EMFBoss |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
This means nothing legally UNLESS Andy says he seen Bruce inject Clemens, even then it's Andy and Bruce's word vs Roger's word. |
Who is Bruce, retard? :scratch: |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by EMFBoss
Who is Bruce, retard? :scratch: |
Bruce Beck, sportscaster at Channel 4 in NYC. |
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| Marinolaw |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
This means nothing legally UNLESS Andy says he seen Bruce inject Clemens, even then it's Andy and Bruce's word vs Roger's word. |
leave the legal analysis to the lawyers Nuge. Corroboration, particularly from Clemens closest friend has more significance than most any evidence. |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by Marinolaw
leave the legal analysis to the lawyers Nuge. Corroboration, particularly from Clemens closest friend has more significance than most any evidence. |
he is backing mcnamee. just does not want to do it publicly in front of clemens |
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| Disco_stu73 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
This means nothing legally UNLESS Andy says he seen Bruce inject Clemens, even then it's Andy and Bruce's word vs Roger's word. |
If Pettitte backs McNamee's testimony, that's no longer "he said/she said" - that's called "corroboration," and it means Roger is fucked. |
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| jasondylan |
| Clemens is so guilty.. everyone is trying every flaw or lack of evidence in the legal system to bail out their Hero... He's digging himself into deeper shit everytime he opens his mouth. |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
This means nothing legally UNLESS Andy says he seen Bruce inject Clemens, even then it's Andy and Bruce's word vs Roger's word. |
So you're willing to believe a guy who told you he thought the shard of wood he threw at Piazza was a ball over Pettite? |
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| jobbey |
| what happened to the saved syringes mcnnamee had? |
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| jobbey |
he looks like a beaten man.
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by Marinolaw
leave the legal analysis to the lawyers Nuge. Corroboration, particularly from Clemens closest friend has more significance than most any evidence. |
I disagree your honor, one must consider the character of this ex-friend, who is an ex-covict who lied under oath and admits to illegal activities along with having a motivation to name Clemenns.
I think you need to read up on Marbury v. Madison.
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
So you're willing to believe a guy who told you he thought the shard of wood he threw at Piazza was a ball over Pettite? |
Look, I for one wished he threw it at that homo's head. Actually, to this day I still feel that if Piazza threw a punch or went nuts, it may have lit a fire under those scared Mets and made it more of a Series. |
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| Disco_stu73 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
I disagree your honor, one must consider the character of this ex-friend, who is an ex-covict who lied under oath and admits to illegal activities along with having a motivation to name Clemenns.
I think you need to read up on Marbury v. Madison.
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What about the credibility of Andy Pettitte, the devout, God-fearing Christian? Is he out to destroy Roger too? |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by Disco_stu73
What about the credibility of Andy Pettitte, the devout, God-fearing Christian? Is he out to destroy Roger too? |
Now this is something I agree with. I trust Andy to tell the truth, that is the kind of person he is. Now, pay attention, just say Andy says he NEVER seen Roger use roids, but talk to him about it. Is that evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Clemens actually used roids?
I for one will bet Clemens says. " He was my trainer and I expected him to follow the laws of the land and the policy of MLB" "If he injected me with steroids, it was not to my knowledge" |
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| mbrin_61 |
| The needles that McNamee used to inject Clemens will be subpoened. The needles will have traces of HGH and steroids as well as Clemens DNA. Clemens will be legally compelled to submit a sample of his DNA. Net Result: Clemens' is fucked. Pettitte's testimony is only icing on the cake. |
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| Disco_stu73 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
I for one will bet Clemens says. " He was my trainer and I expected him to follow the laws of the land and the policy of MLB" "If he injected me with steroids, it was not to my knowledge" |
He has not said that - he has said that McNamee DID inject him, but it was with B12 and lidocane. |
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| KMSDEMON |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by mbrin_61
The needles that McNamee used to inject Clemens will be subpoened. The needles will have traces of HGH and steroids as well as Clemens DNA. Clemens will be legally compelled to submit a sample of his DNA. Net Result: Clemens' is fucked. Pettitte's testimony is only icing on the cake. |
AGAIN, Clemens will claim he had no idea he was being injected with roids and trusted his trainer to comply with laws and policy. Unless Clemens says I USED ROIDS or they have a clip or other physical evidence, this case is weak. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
AGAIN, Clemens will claim he had no idea he was being injected with roids and trusted his trainer to comply with laws and policy. Unless Clemens says I USED ROIDS or they have a clip or other physical evidence, this case is weak. |
So now the case is weak...24 hrs ago there was no case at all, according to you!
Thats all I need :D |
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| bonghitbobby |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Now this is something I agree with. I trust Andy to tell the truth, that is the kind of person he is. Now, pay attention, just say Andy says he NEVER seen Roger use roids, but talk to him about it. Is that evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Clemens actually used roids?
I for one will bet Clemens says. " He was my trainer and I expected him to follow the laws of the land and the policy of MLB" "If he injected me with steroids, it was not to my knowledge" |
that is a huge reach for him to say his trainer duped him and injected him with steroids, while his head was growing every week and he had to see the equipment guy for a new hat, he thought it was from vitamin B shots? |
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| Pussah2 |
Andy Pettitte's affidavit says Roger Clemens admitted HGH use
By CHRISTIAN RED, MICHAEL O'KEEFFE, TERI THOMPSON and NATHANIEL VINTON
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS
Wednesday, February 13th 2008, 1:07 AM
Roberts/Bloomberg
WASHINGTON - Andy Pettitte won't be at Wednesday's congressional hearing on the Mitchell Report, but even in his absence, the Yankee pitcher has emerged as the most important witness.
When Pettitte confronted Roger Clemens about a previous conversation the two had about Clemens' use of human growth hormone, according to an affidavit Pettitte provided to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform last week, Clemens told his longtime teammate he was referring to his wife's drug use, not his own.
Pettitte told investigators that Clemens had admitted HGH use years earlier, but had changed his story by 2005, when the government had begun cracking down on performance-enhancing drug distributors and users in sports.
Clemens has said all along that he and Pettitte never discussed steroid use although it is not known that the righthander has repeated that assertion under oath.
Last week, the Daily News was the first to report that trainer Brian McNamee testified in his own deposition before the committee that he had injected Debbie Clemens with human growth hormone - so she could look good when she posed for the 2003 Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.
The committee, meanwhile, has independently gathered new evidence indicating that the seven-time Cy Young Award winner used performance-enhancing drugs, according to a source familiar with the case.
"Congress gathered independent information that could corroborate everything that Brian McNamee said," said a source close to the case.
That does not bode well for Clemens, who has spent the last six weeks denying the allegations of the Mitchell Report - under oath during an interview with congressional investigators, in private meetings with members of Congress and in repeated public statements.
Clemens will today be questioned by lawmakers about his association with his longtime trainer, who told former Sen. George Mitchell that he injected Clemens at least 16 times with HGH and steroids.
Clemens has repeatedly denied the allegations, but if he is shown to have lied in his deposition, he could be charged with lying to Congress, which could land him up to five years in prison. The committee could refer his case to the Department of Justice.
Pettitte gave a 2 1/2-hour deposition to the committee last week and has not disclosed any information about what he said, leaving the world to speculate about whether he would stand by Clemens in the pitcher's lonely denial.
Pettitte's lawyer, Jay Reisinger, declined comment Tuesday night. The pitcher is expected to appear at the first day of spring training for the Yankees Thursday in Tampa. |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
AGAIN, Clemens will claim he had no idea he was being injected with roids and trusted his trainer to comply with laws and policy. Unless Clemens says I USED ROIDS or they have a clip or other physical evidence, this case is weak. |
If his trainer were to comply with laws & policy he wouldn't be one giving Clemens the shots, the team doctor would. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by otto02
If his trainer were to comply with laws & policy he wouldn't be one giving Clemens the shots, the team doctor would. |
So you admit his trainer is not only a lying drug dealer, but he also broke ethical guidelines and Federal Laws by injecting him. Hum, very interesting. So you believe the trainer over Roger? |
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| otto02 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
So you admit his trainer is not only a lying drug dealer, but he also broke ethical guidelines and Federal Laws by injecting him. Hum, very interesting. So you believe the trainer over Roger? |
I believe Pettite, don't you? Why would his trainer tell the truth about everyone but Clemens including Clemens' wife? |
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