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| Luther |
Who should be on it?
It definitely shouldn't be a token woman selected just to appease the rabid Hillary feminists.
It should be someone with executive experience, not just another senator.
It should also be someone who provides an electoral advantage. |
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| Oz |
| oh, and I hope he doesn't even think about Alan Keyes |
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| zimmie |
| Wesley "Baby Killer" Clark |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by SwingOnThis
John Edwards |
No executive experience, also a failed vice presidential candidate in 2008. |
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| danrich03 |
| Richardson is a good idea, though I believe he's a Clintonista. |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
Bill Richardson. |
I think he is the most qualified person in the Democratic party. The negatives, New Mexico doesn't have very many electoral college votes, and it might not be practical to have a non-white ticket. I think he is a leading contender for a major cabinet post like Secretary of State. |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Wesley "Baby Killer" Clark |
:scratch: |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by danrich03
Richardson is a good idea, though I believe he's a Clintonista. |
He hasn't endorsed Clinton, so he is obviously not too loyal. If he has half a brain, he would know that Obama is the better candidate, and is probably waiting for the race to be decided before offering his services to the winner. |
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| Luther |
| There are basically two possible types of vice presidential candidates: someone younger (40-55) and on the rise in the world of politics who would be a presumptive presidential candidate in eight years, like Al Gore in 1992, or someone older (55+) who is established and experienced and who is not likely to run for president in the future, but who is supposed to provide the voters with a sense of reassurance, like Dick Cheney in 2000. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
I think Hillary whould be the obvious choice. It would unite most of the country and make the grand oldies, look old and no longer grand.
I'm no Hillary fan, but I think naming her VP would be a barnburner in the political world, get lots of attention and make people come out and vote in record numbers.
Plus, Hillary may be contained and not be able to do TOO much damage as veep...
:dontknow: |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Hillary (if she'll accept)
Az Gov Janet Napolitano
Bill Richardson |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Hillary (if she'll accept)
Az Gov Janet Napolitano
Bill Richardson |
Hillary brings nothing except massinve negatives, not to mention I dont think she would ever accept
I think his short list would be:
Tim Kaine, Gov -VA
Bill Richardson, Gov-NM
Jim Webb, Sen-VA
Janet Napolitano , Gov - AZ
Joe Biden, Sen-DE
Edwards wouldn't be bad, but apparently he is close to endorsing Clinton, in a move of political suicide |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Hillary brings nothing except massinve negatives, not to mention I dont think she would ever accept
I think his short list would be:
Tim Kaine, Gov -VA
Bill Richardson, Gov-NM
Jim Webb, Sen-VA
Janet Napolitano , Gov - AZ
Joe Biden, Sen-DE
Edwards wouldn't be bad, but apparently he is close to endorsing Clinton, in a move of political suicide |
I went with Clinton because of the selling power. Trust me, I think Bill and Hillary are two of the most vile people in the Democratic Party but, like Bush, they are a political machine that knows how to sell its product.
Napolitano, overall, would be the best choice...a relative unknown with governing experience.
There is, however, that nagging gay rumour about her that could freak some people out. |
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| Luther |
| Hillary on the ticket will only reduce Obama's electoral performance. She would cause a higher Republican turnout and would reduce the number of independents and Republicans that would vote for the Democratic ticket. A terrible decision it would be. |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Hillary brings nothing except massinve negatives, not to mention I dont think she would ever accept
I think his short list would be:
Tim Kaine, Gov -VA
Bill Richardson, Gov-NM
Jim Webb, Sen-VA
Janet Napolitano , Gov - AZ
Joe Biden, Sen-DE
Edwards wouldn't be bad, but apparently he is close to endorsing Clinton, in a move of political suicide |
Kaine is in his first term as governor, Webb and Biden have lots of experience but not executive experience. Napolitano is a woman who, unlike Clinton, can truthfully claim to have relevant experience, and Richardson too has a great resume. |
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| Omnipotent_1 |
| Biden would be the smartest choice, literally. |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by Omnipotent_1
Biden would be the smartest choice, literally. |
I don't see how, unless you are referring to Biden's IQ. Delaware is a state that will go Democratic anyway, and Biden does not have a great deal of national appeal. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
Hillary on the ticket will only reduce Obama's electoral performance. She would cause a higher Republican turnout and would reduce the number of independents and Republicans that would vote for the Democratic ticket. A terrible decision it would be. |
exactly |
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| Jack Shit |
| Wesley Clark, Jim Webb, or Bill Richardson. |
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
Bill Richardson. |
I was thinking that, but his state is such a backwards mess and he doesn't seem to care.
I was checking out the election stats last night on CNN.... NEW MEXICO IS STILL IN YELLOW.
They took the vote on Feb 3, does anyone in that state know how to count? I'm suprised the DNC hasn't stepped in. Richardson should have done something. It really reflects poorly on their state.
And yes, S a n t e Fe, even though its rife with limousine liberals is truly beautiful. :D |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by modeams
I was thinking that, but his state is such a backwards mess and he doesn't seem to care.
I was checking out the election stats last night on CNN.... NEW MEXICO IS STILL IN YELLOW.
They took the vote on Feb 3, does anyone in that state know how to count? I'm suprised the DNC hasn't stepped in. Richardson should have done something. It really reflects poorly on their state.
And yes, S a n t e Fe, even though its rife with limousine liberals is truly beautiful. :D |
Politico.com shows Obama 49 Clinton 48. |
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| Marinolaw |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
Bill Richardson. |
agreed. I've always been a fan |
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| ICE CUBAN |
| Chuck D of Public Enemy. That will really scare the shit out of whitey. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
Hillary on the ticket will only reduce Obama's electoral performance. She would cause a higher Republican turnout and would reduce the number of independents and Republicans that would vote for the Democratic ticket. A terrible decision it would be. |
You and Rev could be right regarding Hillary as VP. I could've been overthinking it. I doubt that she'd accept anyway.
But, on the other hand, with Hillary as VP, that might keep some southern racist cracker from trying to shoot Obama. |
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| guayuque |
| Biden by far has the best resume, but Webb would not be a bad choice. Edwards will probably be the new Attorney General which will scare the holy piss out of insurance, oil, and other big business. Good thing, I say. |
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| VacateTheWord |
If by some miracle Obama gets the Democrat nomination, he will have to pick a running mate that will have to bring strong national security credentials to blunt McCain's strength.
Wesley Clark is the first name that comes to mind, but he is a Clintonite.
Jim Webb might be a good choice, but he would have to give up his seat in a potential swing state.
John Edwards does nothing to enhance an Obama ticket. Richardson would be a more sensible choice than Edwards, as he has a long resume and brings diplomacy cred to the ticket. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
lol
obama is gonna lose the national election
big time
bill richardson lol
john edwards lol
wesley clark
why choose people who have already lost |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
If by some miracle Obama gets the Democrat nomination, he will have to pick a running mate that will have to bring strong national security credentials to blunt McCain's strength.
Wesley Clark is the first name that comes to mind, but he is a Clintonite.
Jim Webb might be a good choice, but he would have to give up his seat in a potential swing state.
John Edwards does nothing to enhance an Obama ticket. Richardson would be a more sensible choice than Edwards, as he has a long resume and brings diplomacy cred to the ticket. |
By some miracle? Dude, its gonna pretty much take a miracle at this point for him not to get the nomination. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
By some miracle? Dude, its gonna pretty much take a miracle at this point for him not to get the nomination. |
:lol:
Please stop - there is only so much room in a person's signature. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
:lol:
Please stop - there is only so much room in a person's signature. |
Not that I would want this but would you promise to never post here again if he wins the nomination? |
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| AcquiringSignal |
Jim Webb
Wesley Clark
Bill Richardson |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
Not that I would want this but would you promise to never post here again if he wins the nomination? |
ahem. |
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| MLBoros72s |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
Not that I would want this but would you promise to never post here again if he wins the nomination? |
:pray::pray::pray::pray:
(I'm the worst kind of atheist) |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s
:pray::pray::pray::pray:
(I'm the worst kind of atheist) |
me too :D - vtw, has already said he doesn't wager on the internet so we're likely out of luck :( |
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| MLBoros72s |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
me too :D - vtw, has already said he doesn't wager on the internet so we're likely out of luck :( |
Well, that's someone who's whole M.O. is to fear monger, going as far as defending Hillary Clinton.
In other words a conservative in it's purest sense. |
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| Snoopyrules |
| Webb is a good choice, but with the Senate Democrat majority being only 51/49 you run the chance of that seat eventually going back to the Republicans. |
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| Luckfrog |
| Why is Obama looking for a VP? Is he running for president of his local rotary club or something? |
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| salafibrigades |
| Zbigniew Brzezinski |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
Zbigniew Brzezinski |
finally someone with some brains in their head |
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| salafibrigades |
One of Obama's top advisors Zbigniew Brzezinski hangin wit his boy Osama Bin Laden |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| :rolleyes: |
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| Snoopyrules |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
finally someone with some brains in their head |
He was born in Poland. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by Snoopyrules
He was born in Poland. |
The people's VP. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
He's already picked me.
Thread over. |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
One of Obama's top advisors Zbigniew Brzezinski hangin wit his boy Osama Bin Laden |
Surreal. |
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| salafibrigades |
| That photo is 100% authentic |
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| uhohhotdog |
| Webb, Edwards, or Jeff Levy. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by uhohhotdog
Webb, Edwards, or Jeff Levy. |
you have to make jokes? |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
That photo is 100% authentic |
Sure its just not Bin Laden |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Sure its just not Bin Laden |
Are you sure about that? |
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| fantasticvoyeur |
I wonder how many of Obama's followers know of Brzezinski's history (Obama's Foreign Policy advisor for those of you voting for Obama) and the coup that would inevitably result in the collapse of the American economy & a possible repeat of the holocaust? There's a reason that we spend like we do, ya know.
Your papers, I mean, REAL ID please...
I already voted for Ron Paul in the NY primary. It never felt so good to be so right and outnumbered. You guys have fun voting, I'll be picking out land in the mountains of Vermont. |
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| salafibrigades |
| it is bin laden |
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| No Destination |
| the best VP would be Al Gore part deux |
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| uhohhotdog |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
you have to make jokes? |
Sorry, man. I'll treat the Howard Stern message board more seriously. |
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| Kerupt |
| Thomas Andrew Daschle :puzzled: |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by uhohhotdog
Sorry, man. I'll treat the Howard Stern message board more seriously. |
I was just fuckin with you man :D |
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| cunning lingo |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| OMG HE WAS ON STAGE WITH A VERY PROMINENT BLACK LEEDER!!! DANG3R!!1!! |
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| cunning lingo |
| You can idolize Sharpton all you want. I find him as repulsive as any scumbag , criminal racist. |
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| uhohhotdog |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
I was just fuckin with you man :D |
Love ya baby. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by uhohhotdog
Love ya baby. |
welcome to the forum :D |
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| WillowGlen |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
That photo is 100% authentic |
So is this one
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by Kerupt
Thomas Andrew Daschle :puzzled: |
Are you kidding? |
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| modeams |
After much research and discussion it has to be:
Jim Webb: his military record is excellent:
After graduating from Annapolis, Webb was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the U.S. Marine Corps. As a first lieutenant during the Vietnam War he served as a platoon commander with Delta Company, 1st Battalion 5th Marines. He earned a Navy Cross, the second highest decoration in the Navy and Marine Corps for heroism in Vietnam. Webb also earned the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, and two Purple Hearts
Senator from Virginia; born in St. Joseph, Mo., February 9, 1946; graduated high school in Bellevue, Neb.; attended University of Southern California 1963-1964; graduated United States Naval Academy 1968; J.D., Georgetown University Law School 1975; served in the United States Marines 1968-1972; author, screenwriter, and journalist; lawyer; Secretary of the Navy 1987-1988; elected as a Democrat to the United States Senate in 2006 for the term ending January 3, 2013.
and I love this washpost article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6112801582.html
"I'd like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President," Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.
"That's not what I asked you," Bush said. "How's your boy?"
"That's between me and my boy, Mr. President," Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House.
Webb was narrowly elected to the U.S. Senate this month with a brash, unpolished style that helped win over independent voters in Virginia and earned him support from national party leaders. Now, his Democratic colleagues in the Senate are getting a close-up view of the former boxer, military officer and Republican who is joining their ranks.
If the exchange with Bush two weeks ago is any indication, Webb won't be a wallflower, especially when it comes to the war in Iraq. And he won't stick to a script drafted by top Democrats.
"I'm not particularly interested in having a picture of me and George W. Bush on my wall," Webb said in an interview yesterday in which he confirmed the exchange between him and Bush. "No offense to the institution of the presidency, and I'm certainly looking forward to working with him and his administration. [But] leaders do some symbolic things to try to convey who they are and what the message is."
In the days after the election, Webb's Democratic colleagues on Capitol Hill went out of their way to make nice with Bush and be seen by his side. House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) sat down for a lunch and photo opportunity with Bush, as did Democratic leaders in the Senate.
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| artechba |
Quote: Originally posted by modeams
After much research and discussion it has to be:
Jim Webb: his military record is excellent:
After graduating from Annapolis, Webb was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the U.S. Marine Corps. As a first lieutenant during the Vietnam War he served as a platoon commander with Delta Company, 1st Battalion 5th Marines. He earned a Navy Cross, the second highest decoration in the Navy and Marine Corps for heroism in Vietnam. Webb also earned the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, and two Purple Hearts
Senator from Virginia; born in St. Joseph, Mo., February 9, 1946; graduated high school in Bellevue, Neb.; attended University of Southern California 1963-1964; graduated United States Naval Academy 1968; J.D., Georgetown University Law School 1975; served in the United States Marines 1968-1972; author, screenwriter, and journalist; lawyer; Secretary of the Navy 1987-1988; elected as a Democrat to the United States Senate in 2006 for the term ending January 3, 2013.
and I love this washpost article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6112801582.html
"I'd like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President," Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.
"That's not what I asked you," Bush said. "How's your boy?"
"That's between me and my boy, Mr. President," Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House.
Webb was narrowly elected to the U.S. Senate this month with a brash, unpolished style that helped win over independent voters in Virginia and earned him support from national party leaders. Now, his Democratic colleagues in the Senate are getting a close-up view of the former boxer, military officer and Republican who is joining their ranks.
If the exchange with Bush two weeks ago is any indication, Webb won't be a wallflower, especially when it comes to the war in Iraq. And he won't stick to a script drafted by top Democrats.
"I'm not particularly interested in having a picture of me and George W. Bush on my wall," Webb said in an interview yesterday in which he confirmed the exchange between him and Bush. "No offense to the institution of the presidency, and I'm certainly looking forward to working with him and his administration. [But] leaders do some symbolic things to try to convey who they are and what the message is."
In the days after the election, Webb's Democratic colleagues on Capitol Hill went out of their way to make nice with Bush and be seen by his side. House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) sat down for a lunch and photo opportunity with Bush, as did Democratic leaders in the Senate.
Not Webb, who said he tried to avoid a confrontation with Bush at the White House reception but did not shy away from one when the president approached.
The White House declined to discuss the encounter. "As a general matter, we do not comment on private receptions hosted by the president at the White House," said White House spokeswoman Dana M. Perino.
Webb said he has "strong ideas," but he also insisted that -- as a former Marine in Vietnam -- he knows how to work in a place such as the Senate, where being part of a team is important." |
That's my senator. Should have kicked him in the face |
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
That's my senator. Should have kicked him in the face |
kind of a non sequitur, but since you served, Frontline has a fascinating special on the Iraq war. The analysis is incredible, very measured and non opinionated. Check it out....
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/haditha/ |
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