Question to Obama followers - why is Obama afraid to answer questions?
Luther
Will John McCain accept a debate with Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul?
Reverend Tyler
please this is so transparent...Ask for 50 debates, and then when the guy obviously says no, say "he's afraid!"
They've debated 18 times already and there are going to be 2 more..do we really need more than 20 debates?
And why is it always the losing candidate that is begging for debates?
Also VTW, its over...Its almost impossible for Clitnon to take the lead in pledged delegates
MLBoros72s
Clinton is desperate. Obama is winning. America will be saved.
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler please this is so transparent...Ask for 50 debates, and then when the guy obviously says no, say "he's afraid!"
They've debated 18 times already and there are going to be 2 more..do we really need more than 20 debates?
And why is it always the losing candidate that is begging for debates?
Also VTW, its over...Its almost impossible for Clitnon to take the lead in pledged delegates
Clinton and Obama have debated one-on-one 18 times? No, only once. I know you are counting all of the debates up to this point, but come on - with 10 candidates on the stage and the networks feeling that they have to give equal time to people like Dennis "I saw a UFO" Kucinich, you can't vet a candidate properly.
I agreed with Obama when back in the summer he likened those debates to "cattle calls" and said they weren't productive.
But here we are - the field is narrowed down to 2 and he'll have plenty of time to explain his policy decisions. The people of Wisconsin certainly are entitled to hearing where he stands - that is, if he has any positions on these issues.
Why is Obama afraid to answer these questions? Could it be that he is all empty rhetoric and false hope and no substance?
I think, as an Obama follower, you might want to ask yourself that question.
grege345
Another debate can only help Obama. This will backfire for Hillary. The more she talks the more unlikable she is. She may want to just shut the fuck up this time.Maybe if she gets her way she can show off those tears again and warm some hearts.
Reverend Tyler
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord Clinton and Obama have debated one-on-one 18 times? No, only once. I know you are counting all of the debates up to this point, but come on - with 10 candidates on the stage and the networks feeling that they have to give equal time to people like Dennis "I saw a UFO" Kucinich, you can't vet a candidate properly.
I agreed with Obama when back in the summer he likened those debates to "cattle calls" and said they weren't productive.
But here we are - the field is narrowed down to 2 and he'll have plenty of time to explain his policy decisions. The people of Wisconsin certainly are entitled to hearing where he stands - that is, if he has any positions on these issues.
Why is Obama afraid to answer these questions? Could it be that he is all empty rhetoric and false hope and no substance?
I think, as an Obama follower, you might want to ask yourself that question.
The question (no pun intended) remains - why won't Obama answer questions and face his opponent in Wisconsin? Why is he shunning the questions the people of Wisconsin have?
Reverend Tyler
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord Deflection.
The question (no pun intended) remains - why won't Obama answer questions and face his opponent in Wisconsin? Why is he shunning the questions the people of Wisconsin have?
you said he never gave any specifics on policy positions...he gave a large address on an economic plan TODAY.
You are being as pathetic as Clinton. Wisconsin didn't request a debate, Clinton did. And she will get them. 2 of them. This month. Why is a 3rd, 4th or 5th necessary?
artechba
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord Deflection.
The question (no pun intended) remains - why won't Obama answer questions and face his opponent in Wisconsin? Why is he shunning the questions the people of Wisconsin have?
FYI. He's doing a Town Hall meeting right now live on CNN.com taking questions the people of Wisconsin have
Reverend Tyler
Quote: Originally posted by artechba FYI. He's doing a Town Hall meeting right now live on CNN.com taking questions the people of Wisconsin have
yeah but that is just the people of Wisconsin!
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler you said he never gave any specifics on policy positions...he gave a large address on an economic plan TODAY filled with policy proposals that his advisors drew up in the face of mounting criticism that there is more to the Presidency than chanting "change" and "hope."
Fixed.
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
You are being as pathetic as Clinton. Wisconsin didn't request a debate, Clinton did. And she will get them. 2 of them. This month. Why is a 3rd, 4th or 5th necessary?
First of all, I despise Clinton. But let's face reality - the Republicans are best suited to take Clinton down in the general election. Clinton has a bevvy of questions she has to answer - why won't she release her tax returns...why won't she lay out a proposal for social security...ect.
I'm not talking about the sheer number of debates - I'm talking about answering questions for the people of Wisconsin (and we shouldn't leave out Hawaii).
You note there will be two debates that Obama has approved - will either of those take place before or after the people of Wisconsin and Hawaii cast their ballots?
Reverend Tyler
Whats wrong with the Town Hall meeting in Wisconsin right now?
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler Whats wrong with the Town Hall meeting in Wisconsin right now?
The whole state is attending this meeting?
Second - is he answering questions honestly or giving vague answers, like "Well, to answer your question about job insecurity....we need to have hope."
Reverend Tyler
why dont you fucking watch it? I know you are trying to convince people to vote for Clinton because you know Clinton is beatable, but give it up dude...you arent convincing anyone
artiel
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s Clinton is desperate. Obama is winning. America will be saved.
Regardless of whether that is true or not, just seeing it in print brings joy to my heart.
Snoopyrules
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord Deflection.
The question (no pun intended) remains - why won't Obama answer questions and face his opponent in Wisconsin? Why is he shunning the questions the people of Wisconsin have?
You mean the cheese specific questions that weren't asked in the 18 previous debates? Honestly, what do these debates accomplish. The entire format is flawed. The only people that watch are the ones with their minds made up already, so it's not for them. It's for the newschannels to pick up, find the best zingers, play them on the news and declare a winner. Obama should play along with this transparent tactic and demand 3 debates before next Tuesday and demand two of them be in Hawaii.
danrich03
What I want to know is whether VTW is just pissed that he was wrong about Obama's chances of winning, OR if he REALLY wants Hillary to win.
artechba
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord The whole state is attending this meeting?
As opposed to the whole state of Wisconsin attending the debate? haha
You're gonna be spinning until tomorrow with answers like that
MLBoros72s
Quote: Originally posted by artiel Regardless of whether that is true or not, just seeing it in print brings joy to my heart.
She's become the embodiment of Guiliani: A New York politician desperately holding on to a firewall strategy.
Her momentum is nonexistent, her supporters have maxed out, the people see and feel the hope.
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by danrich03 What I want to know is whether VTW is just pissed that he was wrong about Obama's chances of winning, OR if he REALLY wants Hillary to win.
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As I have told you repeatedly, the last thing I want is Clinton back in the White House. However, there isn't a dimes worth of difference on most issues between Clinton and Obama.
What I fear is that the "movement" (i.e. cult) that Obama has put together will march in their trance to the polls in November and vote for a guy who has no specific plans for any proposals he has made, has no experience, has no desire to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq, wants to embrace our enemies (Chavez, Ahmadinejad), enact the biggest tax increase in US history, ect. This is what I fear - that this cult of personality is going to be carried by his followers right to the White House.
But like I said, there is little difference on most issues between the two. Right now the best way to stop Hillary Clinton is for the Republicans to defeat her.
Reverend Tyler
you are flat out lying
His policy ideas are well-detailed
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler you are flat out lying
His policy ideas are well-detailed
OK, perhaps I am wrong.
You are an avid Obama supporter, so I will pose the question to you since Obama refuses to answer the people of Wisconsin in a debate.
What is Senator Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq and keep Iraq from falling under the influence of the Iranian regime? (Specifically)
artechba
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord OK, perhaps I am wrong.
You are an avid Obama supporter, so I will pose the question to you since Obama refuses to answer the people of Wisconsin in a debate.
What is Senator Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq and keep Iraq from falling under the influence of the Iranian regime? (Specifically)
70% of Americans want us out of Iraq. So I'll say he'll do something that other politicians have not lately. He will listen to the majority of Americans and get us out of Iraq.
You and the rest of 30% can go and vote for Hillary and McCain. It won't make a bit of difference anymore
Reverend Tyler
He has said repeatedly that by setting concrete benchmarks it will force the Iraqi governemnt to start maintaning control as we leave the region...If an area flares up in violence then he will send in troops to settle it down...However, by withdrawing from Iraq it allows us to re-focus the war on terror to the people that attacked us on 9/11 by going after, capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden, no matter where he may be hiding.
modeams
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord OK, perhaps I am wrong.
You are an avid Obama supporter, so I will pose the question to you since Obama refuses to answer the people of Wisconsin in a debate.
What is Senator Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq and keep Iraq from falling under the influence of the Iranian regime? (Specifically)
Al Qaeda in Iraq :jj:
you dummy.
And I love your concern about the interest in Obama, but where were you in '00 and '04 to correct those so interested in getting God back in government? Shame on you, sir.
rod_jammer
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
What is Senator Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq and keep Iraq from falling under the influence of the Iranian regime? (Specifically)
Sen. Obama has advocated for a phased withdrawal. You know, similar to the "we'll stand down as they stand up" that I'm sure you cheered when someone else said it. And let's face it, Iraq is mostly Shiia, so Iran will have at least some influence on Iraq. If we were so concerned about Iran influence, we should have kept Saddam in power.
Whatever Obama's plan, it is a hell of a lot better that McCain concept that we will stay in Iraq for 10,000 years! McCain's withdrawal date: 12,008.
rod_jammer
I hear that Mike Huckabee wants to debate John McCain too.
ArivacaCharlie
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord OK, perhaps I am wrong.
You are an avid Obama supporter, so I will pose the question to you since Obama refuses to answer the people of Wisconsin in a debate.
What is Senator Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq and keep Iraq from falling under the influence of the Iranian regime? (Specifically)
In other words: What will Obama do to clean up the totally horrific disasterous mess that the cowardly fucknut George W Bush got us into?
I believe the Senator has said he would like us out of Iraq in two years. Whether or not that will happen remains to be seen.
But, instead of asking bullshit "what if" questions, ask yourself how you were so completely duped by a cowardly Texas retard.
ArivacaCharlie
Quote: Originally posted by rod_jammer I hear that Mike Huckabee wants to debate John McCain too.
Huckabee wants the debate to take place in two adjoining public restroom stalls.
ArivacaCharlie
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler He has said repeatedly that by setting concrete benchmarks it will force the Iraqi governemnt to start maintaning control as we leave the region...If an area flares up in violence then he will send in troops to settle it down...However, by withdrawing from Iraq it allows us to re-focus the war on terror to the people that attacked us on 9/11 by going after, capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden, no matter where he may be hiding.
Sounds like the words of a potentially great leader.
MLBoros72s
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie Sounds like the words of a potentially great leader.
Obama is our future, our hope, the one who could finally seriously do something to fix Washington.
He's ready for us, but are we ready for him?
WillowGlen
Yet another in a long line of threads where facts are like Krytptonite to VTFs Hannity quoted talking points.
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by WillowGlen Yet another in a long line of threads where facts are like Krytptonite to VTFs Hannity quoted talking points.
What "facts" are you talking about, exactly.
And please don't be vague and fill your answer with empty rhetoric - this is not an Obama rally. Thank you.
Robinsmuff
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord Clinton and Obama have debated one-on-one 18 times? No, only once. I know you are counting all of the debates up to this point, but come on - with 10 candidates on the stage and the networks feeling that they have to give equal time to people like Dennis "I saw a UFO" Kucinich, you can't vet a candidate properly.
I agreed with Obama when back in the summer he likened those debates to "cattle calls" and said they weren't productive.
But here we are - the field is narrowed down to 2 and he'll have plenty of time to explain his policy decisions. The people of Wisconsin certainly are entitled to hearing where he stands - that is, if he has any positions on these issues.
Why is Obama afraid to answer these questions? Could it be that he is all empty rhetoric and false hope and no substance?
I think, as an Obama follower, you might want to ask yourself that question.
As a citizen of Wisconsin I know where he stands & I don't need another debate to tell me. Obama has detailed his position on most vital issues & with a simple internet check you can find his views very easily.
Obama has nothing to gain by agreeing to one more interview while Hillary does. The idea that Obama is empty rhetoric and false hope is inane. Every candidate offers a pie in the sky view of what their poilicies will do. Hope is not bad. Your fucking candidate won an election based on nothing but fear. Talk about empty rhetoric based on false emotions.
We in Wisconsin will do just fine without another 2 hours of talking points.
Robinsmuff
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord OK, perhaps I am wrong.
You are an avid Obama supporter, so I will pose the question to you since Obama refuses to answer the people of Wisconsin in a debate.
What is Senator Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq and keep Iraq from falling under the influence of the Iranian regime? (Specifically)
here it is Iraq plan As you can see this is as detailed as any of the other candidates plans. Please check out McCains plan if you would like. It is no more detailed & just as dependent on how events play out.
The big difference with Obama is that he understands, unlike you & Bush, that Al Qaeda in Iraq is not real. This is a term we have assigned to those in Iraq who opposse our forces. If we invaded Bolivia tomorrow I can guarentee we would face opposition from rebels, I guess we would coint these fighters "Al Qaeda in Bolivia". The vast majority of opposition that we face in Iraq is home grown & their only agenda is defeating us in Iraq. That for the record is according to our own military intelligence.
The real Al Qaeda, you remember the group that actually attacked us? While they are located throughout the world, the largest concentration of members are located along the Pakistan & Afghansistan border. This is the region that Bush pulled forces from so we could go fight in Iraq. We now have lost ground in this region & Al Qaeda, again according to our own intelligence, has gained strength since our original invasion in Afghanistan.
So you are concerned about Iraq falling under influence of the Iranian regim? You're a fucking retarded ass clown. What about Pakistan falling under fundamentalist extremist who are aligned with Al Qaeda? That should be what keeps you up at night you stupid fucking asswipe. Kill yourself now because you are to dumb to vote in the next election.
Obama has the most detailed plan to deal with this very real & much graver threat. For the record, in case you don't know, Pakistan has nukes. Iran & Iraq don't you stupid fuck!!!!!!!!!!
Talk about swallowing the kool aid & sucking in whatever wave of blind false bullshit you are fed.
WillowGlen
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord What "facts" are you talking about, exactly.
And please don't be vague and fill your answer with empty rhetoric - this is not an Obama rally. Thank you.
VTW's definition of "vague" : A post full of information he skipped over and ignored because reading it showed what a moronic fucktard he is. :rolleyes:
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Robinsmuff As a citizen of Wisconsin I know where he stands & I don't need another debate to tell me. Obama has detailed his position on most vital issues & with a simple internet check you can find his views very easily.
Obama has nothing to gain by agreeing to one more interview while Hillary does. The idea that Obama is empty rhetoric and false hope is inane. Every candidate offers a pie in the sky view of what their poilicies will do. Hope is not bad. Your fucking candidate won an election based on nothing but fear. Talk about empty rhetoric based on false emotions.
We in Wisconsin will do just fine without another 2 hours of talking points.
Once again, I am not talking about the stuff that Obama had people write for him that he has on his website.
The people deserve to hear from the candidate himself what specifically he plans to do.
Watch this and then ask yourself - Why would Obama not want to debate Clinton on the issues:
Reverend Tyler
a 6 second clip?
Dude...you are a Bush supporter. His mastery of the English Language is legendary.
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler a 6 second clip?
Dude...you are a Bush supporter. His mastery of the English Language is legendary.
President Bush has a plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Obama is going to pull the troops out on a fixed timetable and, well, "hope" that the Iraqi army is up to the task at that point. So basically he has no plan.
Yesterday the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq said that he plans on using Iraq as a staging ground for Israel's destruction. What is Obama's plan to defeat the group that brought us a string of attacks, including 9/11?
Oz
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord President Bush has a plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Obama is going to pull the troops out on a fixed timetable and, well, "hope" that the Iraqi army is up to the task at that point. So basically he has no plan.
Yesterday the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq said that he plans on using Iraq as a staging ground for Israel's destruction. What is Obama's plan to defeat the group that brought us a string of attacks, including 9/11?
my god are you off your rocker :rolleyes:
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Oz my god are you off your rocker :rolleyes:
So you cannot verbalize Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Thank you for reaffirming the fact that Obama is an empty suit and his support is a cult-like following.
Oz
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord So you cannot verbalize Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Thank you for reaffirming the fact that Obama is an empty suit and his support is a cult-like following.
No, I actually think you are insane.
Luther
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord So you cannot verbalize Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Thank you for reaffirming the fact that Obama is an empty suit and his support is a cult-like following.
Al Qaeda in Iraq has zero affect on the United States. Any president that bases American foreign policy on these bogeymen is a fool.
Robinsmuff
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord So you cannot verbalize Obama's plan to defeat Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Thank you for reaffirming the fact that Obama is an empty suit and his support is a cult-like following.
I posted his plan & you ignored it. I also posted his plan to deal with the real al Qaeda, not the bullshit version in Iraq that only the butt fuck stupid sheep are considering to be Al Qaeda.
Your boy ignored the real enemy & allowed them to once again grow in strength. Now idiots like you are trying desperately to the save the certain legacy of failure that wil follow Bush. You're to fucking stupid to vote. Pakistan has nukes & millions of fundamentalist muslims who work with Al Qaeda & you are worried about Iraq. What a fucking joke you are.
zimmie
Obama's plan calls for
"Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. "
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