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| danrich03 |
NYT is going to run a story Thursday that confirms that Clinton insiders do not expect to catch Obama in pledged delegates, which means their plan is to woo enough superdelegates to cheese her way to the nomination.
This will make the Democratic party look really bad if it works (which it probably won't).
I just wonder how much damage she is willing to do to the party in order to regain the White House. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by danrich03
NYT is going to run a story Thursday that confirms that Clinton insiders do not expect to catch Obama in pledged delegates, which means their plan is to woo enough superdelegates to cheese her way to the nomination.
This will make the Democratic party look really bad if it works (which it probably won't).
I just wonder how much damage she is willing to do to the party in order to regain the White House. |
Knowing the Clintons and how they threw African Americans under the bus to divide the Democrat electorate among racial lines and thus woo the Latino vote in Los Angeles (note one of her supporters came out before Super Tuesday and said that many Latinos have a distrust of black people, and when asked about that comment she didn't refute it), they will stop at nothing.
The next logical step for the Clintons will be getting the delegates from Michigan and Florida seated and their votes counted as is. |
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| Snoopyrules |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Knowing the Clintons and how they threw African Americans under the bus to divide the Democrat electorate among racial lines and thus woo the Latino vote in Los Angeles (note one of her supporters came out before Super Tuesday and said that many Latinos have a distrust of black people, and when asked about that comment she didn't refute it), they will stop at nothing.
The next logical step for the Clintons will be getting the delegates from Michigan and Florida seated and their votes counted as is. |
This has always been her plan, but I don't think it's going to work. There has been talk by the DNC (http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/...loc_n4001.shtml) about holding caucuses at a later date. This would be great for Obama considering his caucus sucess. This is also a good indication of who the DNC wants to actually win since they're picking a format that favors Obama. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Snoopyrules
This has always been her plan, but I don't think it's going to work. There has been talk by the DNC (http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/...loc_n4001.shtml) about holding caucuses at a later date. This would be great for Obama considering his caucus sucess. This is also a good indication of who the DNC wants to actually win since they're picking a format that favors Obama. |
If they had a re-do, they would hold a caucus only because it is far cheaper to do than to hold a traditional election.
Also, there is the question of who picks up the tab - the DNC or each state. |
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| zimmie |
| Democrats sure know how to fuck up elections..... |
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| Snoopyrules |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Democrats sure know how to fuck up elections..... |
Like how fucked up it was how many seats they won in 2006, or how fucked up it is that whoever gets the nomination has to run against a guy that even his own party hates....McCain, that's just fucking great. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Democrats sure know how to fuck up elections..... |
Yes, they do.
And they are underestimating the Clintons. I keep hearing "Democrat strategists" on cable saying that it is inconceivable that either party would go to court or force superdelegates to settle it at the convention.
These morons sat through 8 years of rule under the Clintons and still have no understanding of what they will do to retain power. |
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| Reed Rothchild |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Democrats sure know how to fuck up elections..... |
Yep, this election should be a lock, and instead, it looks like the DNC is trying to throw it to McCain. I'm starting not to blame the Republicans for most of the shit going on; at least they come out and say it: We'll stay in Iraq for 100 years, we hate homos, rich people and corporations shouldn't pay any taxes. They Democrats say they are against this stuff, but they go along with it anyway. |
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| danrich03 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
The next logical step for the Clintons will be getting the delegates from Michigan and Florida seated and their votes counted as is. |
Considering Obama wasn't even ON THE BALLOT in Michigan, that seems pretty ridiculous.
I agree that the Clintons will do anything to gain power, but if the Democratic party pushes the black guy with the most delegates out of the way, so the white folks can get to the White House -- it'll be the biggest election rape in memory.
No way does that happen.
I still say the only way Hillary wins is big wins in OH/TX/PA, and then lots of favors to superdelegates.
Even then, it'll be good theater to watch them to take the back door to the nomination. |
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| JTProcess |
unless the clintons have obama sniped Hillary is not getting the nomination.
Vacate you're trippin' if you still believe otherwise. |
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| Reed Rothchild |
Quote: Originally posted by danrich03
I just wonder how much damage she is willing to do to the party in order to regain the White House. |
I don't wonder so much about the party as the country. McCain has taken positions almost identical to Bush to get this far, so this Democrat squabbling is going to give us 30 years of an extreme right Supreme Court, and 100 years (if China will finance it) in Iraq. If if goes into June, I would actually like to see Obama be a statesman, and drop out, cause you can see in Hillary's eyes, she will burn down the world to get that nomination. |
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| Jack Shit |
| Funny, I never thought for a second she'd be the nominee. :) |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| dems are so gonna lose this election...and they had it in their grasp |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by danrich03
NYT is going to run a story Thursday that confirms that Clinton insiders do not expect to catch Obama in pledged delegates, which means their plan is to woo enough superdelegates to cheese her way to the nomination.
This will make the Democratic party look really bad if it works (which it probably won't).
I just wonder how much damage she is willing to do to the party in order to regain the White House. |
Hillary doesn't care about the Democratic Party or the Nation. She wants power and will do absolutely anything to get it. The scarey thing is that she's a hundred times smarter than Bush the Chimp. Imagine the damage that stupid fuck would've done with half a brain! |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
dems are so gonna lose this election...and they had it in their grasp |
Damn, I hope you're wrong. McCain is a loose cannon.
Regarding a more pleasant topic: Did you go to the Willie Nelson concert yet? He did two great shows here last week. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Damn, I hope you're wrong. McCain is a loose cannon.
Regarding a more pleasant topic: Did you go to the Willie Nelson concert yet? He did two great shows here last week. |
i never liked mccain
and i don't feel that honerable military service should be a prerequsit for being president.
yes i went to willie
he was awesome ..he did this bobby mcgee and working man sandwich...great mellow show.. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
i am going to barry manilow tonight
lol
really |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| and if you go to willies website you can buy the shows digitally he played on a usb bracelet |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
and if you go to willies website you can buy the shows digitally he played on a usb bracelet |
Thanks for the info.
I won't comment on Manilow. Actually, I took a girl to a Manilow show back in the 70's. All I got out of the deal was a handjob but, as much as I hate to admit it, the show was damned good.
Can I be forgiven for admitting to enjoy Wayne Newton in Vegas? |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Thanks for the info.
I won't comment on Manilow. Actually, I took a girl to a Manilow show back in the 70's. All I got out of the deal was a handjob but, as much as I hate to admit it, the show was damned good.
Can I be forgiven for admitting to enjoy Wayne Newton in Vegas? |
Wayne, while not my cup of tea, is an incredibly talented motherfucker, no doubt.
I've never had any interest in Manilow - he sucked on American Idol. That's all I have on him. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Thanks for the info.
I won't comment on Manilow. Actually, I took a girl to a Manilow show back in the 70's. All I got out of the deal was a handjob but, as much as I hate to admit it, the show was damned good.
Can I be forgiven for admitting to enjoy Wayne Newton in Vegas? |
of course you can but
I draw the line at boybands AND CRAP LIKE THAT |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
of course you can but
I beat my meat at boybands AND CRAP LIKE THAT |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
Wayne, while not my cup of tea, is an incredibly talented motherfucker, no doubt.
I've never had any interest in Manilow - he sucked on American Idol. That's all I have on him. |
Manilow got old, no doubt. He had a great show in the 70's...live, at least. I never bought his albums.
Seriously, DUDE, let us know how the show was. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
of course you can but
I draw the line at boybands AND CRAP LIKE THAT |
LOL....according to Justin Timberlake, the Beatles were the first boy band. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
LOL....according to Justin Timberlake, the Beatles were the first boy band. |
but the beatles wrote their own music |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
but the beatles wrote their own music |
Fuck yeah they did.
I just threw that out there as a goof on Justin. He really said that once. He was comparing his band to the fuckin' Beatles. |
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| zimmie |
| AC Somebody as old as you ought to have better sense.... |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
AC Somebody as old as you ought to have better sense.... |
No, Zimmie, as old as I am should indicate that I have sense and wisdom far surpassing yours. Stick with me and I'll save you from yourself. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
AC Somebody as old as you ought to have better sense.... |
One other thing before I forget......
:generic sorta smiley that indicates great amusement at zimmie's lack of political intellegence: |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Fuck yeah they did.
I just threw that out there as a goof on Justin. He really said that once. He was comparing his band to the fuckin' Beatles. |
ok...heres the story Barry Manilow was great...wasn't very loud though. i guess for the old people. i had these tix which were 9.99 highest seat 3rd level top row ..during teh song ' its a miracle " someone came up and gave us house tix for the bottom level seats which were for 75 or something around there i wanna say 140...so that was great. the reason i had these tix to begin with was i gave them away as a secret santa and the girl coudln't go. it wasn't very secret cause i told everyone at work thatw as my gift ( i was so proud ) the person couldn't go so she gavethem to be and got her a tshirt replacement gift for 25$ so it all worked out. i was smoking weed outside on the patio at staples at barry manilow. it was fun |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
ok...heres the story Barry Manilow was great...wasn't very loud though. i guess for the old people. i had these tix which were 9.99 highest seat 3rd level top row ..during teh song ' its a miracle " someone came up and gave us house tix for the bottom level seats which were for 75 or something around there i wanna say 140...so that was great. the reason i had these tix to begin with was i gave them away as a secret santa and the girl coudln't go. it wasn't very secret cause i told everyone at work thatw as my gift ( i was so proud ) the person couldn't go so she gavethem to be and got her a tshirt replacement gift for 25$ so it all worked out. i was smoking weed outside on the patio at staples at barry manilow. it was fun |
Barry Manilow = faeg
Barry Manilow Concert Goer = faeg |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by Jack Shit
Barry Manilow = faeg
Barry Manilow Concert Goer = faeg |
i saw willie nelson the night before and seeing billy joel next sat..i was at van halen too...
your a closit listener |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
i saw willie nelson the night before and seeing billy joel next sat..i was at van halen too...
your a closit listener |
The fact of the matter is, I write the songs that make the whole world sing, not that faegola. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by Jack Shit
The fact of the matter is, I write the songs that make the whole world sing, not that faegola. |
you write nothing |
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