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| NickNuke |
Cindy Sheehan in Egypt for Islamists
By MAGGIE MICHAEL – 19 hours ago
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) — Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan joined a protest Wednesday seeking the support of Egypt's first lady in ending a military trial of members of the country's largest Islamic organization.
Under the watchful eyes of dozens of black-clad and helmeted anti-riot police, some 50 heavily veiled wives and children of 40 senior members of the Muslim Brotherhood detained for the past year, gathered in front of the headquarters of first lady Suzanne Mubarak's National Council Women carrying banners calling for their release.
"I am here to protest the trial of civilians in front of a military tribunal as this is a violation to international law," said Sheehan, who gained fame in the U.S. for her sit-in outside President Bush's Texas ranch following the death of her son in Iraq.
"As a mother of a son who was killed in the war, I presented a letter to Ms. Suzanne Mubarak to realize how those women and children are suffering."
The street protest was rare in Egypt where authorities ban most signs of public dissent.
One woman carried a sleeping infant in her arms along with a poster reading "Father, I miss you."
In December 2006, the government engaged in a wide-ranging crackdown against the Brotherhood, the country's largest opposition force — which holds one-fifth of the seats in the parliament — targeting in particular businessmen known to financially support the group.
In February 2007, President Hosni Mubarak ordered 40 of the organization's members to be tried by a military tribunal on charges of money laundering and terrorism. The court's verdict is expected Feb. 26.
According to the Brotherhood, 3,245 members of their organization were arrested in 2007. |
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| SaintJimmy |
| How dare that bitch grieve her dead son in the way she sees fit? |
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
How dare that bitch grieve her dead son in the way she sees fit? |
I don't think this is considered grieving. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
I don't think this is considered grieving. |
Doesn't matter what you think - your kid wasn't killed. Fuck yourself. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
Doesn't matter what you think - your kid wasn't killed. Fuck yourself. |
FUCK THIS CUNT. I HOPE SHE IS USED AS A HUMAN SHIELD |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
Cindy Sheehan in Egypt for Islamists
By MAGGIE MICHAEL – 19 hours ago
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) — Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan joined a protest Wednesday seeking the support of Egypt's first lady in ending a military trial of members of the country's largest Islamic organization.
Under the watchful eyes of dozens of black-clad and helmeted anti-riot police, some 50 heavily veiled wives and children of 40 senior members of the Muslim Brotherhood detained for the past year, gathered in front of the headquarters of first lady Suzanne Mubarak's National Council Women carrying banners calling for their release.
"I am here to protest the trial of civilians in front of a military tribunal as this is a violation to international law," said Sheehan, who gained fame in the U.S. for her sit-in outside President Bush's Texas ranch following the death of her son in Iraq.
"As a mother of a son who was killed in the war, I presented a letter to Ms. Suzanne Mubarak to realize how those women and children are suffering."
The street protest was rare in Egypt where authorities ban most signs of public dissent.
One woman carried a sleeping infant in her arms along with a poster reading "Father, I miss you."
In December 2006, the government engaged in a wide-ranging crackdown against the Brotherhood, the country's largest opposition force — which holds one-fifth of the seats in the parliament — targeting in particular businessmen known to financially support the group.
In February 2007, President Hosni Mubarak ordered 40 of the organization's members to be tried by a military tribunal on charges of money laundering and terrorism. The court's verdict is expected Feb. 26.
According to the Brotherhood, 3,245 members of their organization were arrested in 2007. |
Damn her for being right! |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
I don't think this is considered grieving. |
Even though you're wrong most of the time, I like your avitar. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Damn her for being right! |
THIS WAS ABOUT HER SON....WHAT DOES EGYPT HAVE TO DO WITH HER SON??? |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
THIS WAS ABOUT HER SON....WHAT DOES EGYPT HAVE TO DO WITH HER SON??? |
Nothing. But she's right regarding the "wrongness" of military tribunals trying civilians. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Nothing. But she's right regarding the "wrongness" of military tribunals trying civilians. |
Does she realize that she could be killed in Egypt for her views? |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
Does she realize that she could be killed in Egypt for her views? |
I guess that makes her a hell of a lot braver than you. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
I guess that makes her a hell of a lot braver than you. |
Kudos! :bigup:
Maybe I should've said "ditto" for the Limbaugh sheep to understand. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
I guess that makes her a hell of a lot braver than you. |
Braver? Are you serious when you say this or just kidding? She has the State Dept watching her and she is a "known figure" in the media and that's the only protection she has. Maybe she should get a new identity and not go there as Cindy Sheehan and see how much love she gets. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
Braver? Are you serious when you say this or just kidding? She has the State Dept watching her and she is a "known figure" in the media and that's the only protection she has. Maybe she should get a new identity and not go there as Cindy Sheehan and see how much love she gets. |
Why don't you not post here as sixsixsix?
fuckin' dope. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
Braver? Are you serious when you say this or just kidding? She has the State Dept watching her and she is a "known figure" in the media and that's the only protection she has. Maybe she should get a new identity and not go there as Cindy Sheehan and see how much love she gets. |
Dumbass, you're contradicting yourself.
First, you post that she can get killed.
Then you post that she's Cindy Sheehan and protected by the state department and media.
Make up your fuckin' mind. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Dumbass, you're contradicting yourself.
First, you post that she can get killed.
Then you post that she's Cindy Sheehan and protected by the state department and media.
Make up your fuckin' mind. |
What I'm saying is that she has no reason to be in Egypt.
FUck her and her fight. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
What I'm saying is that she has no reason to be in Egypt.
FUck her and her fight. |
And you have no reason to be here.
Fuck you and fuck what you're saying. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
What I'm saying is that she has no reason to be in Egypt.
FUck her and her fight. |
Some people are doers. Good for her, if she thinks it's a cause worth defending. |
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| Bronks Breasts |
| Cindy Sheehan is an American hero and we should all appreciate her role in the public's changing attitude about these wars. I wonder now that Mitt Romney is no longer running for president if his sons are available to serve as cannon fodder for MNC's. Bravo Cindy !!!! Work well done. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Nothing. But she's right regarding the "wrongness" of military tribunals trying civilians. |
When you are engaged in an armed rebellion in your own country, expect a military tribunal. You have put yourself into the military arena and should be judged by the military, your peers.
Civilian courts are for civilians, their peers. |
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| NickNuke |
First of all, they are 40 member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Brotherhood grew as a popular movement over the next 20 years, encompassing not only religion and education, but also politics, through the Party of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hizb Al-Ikhwan Al-Muslimoon. It blamed the Egyptian government for being passive against "Zionists" and joined the Palestinian side in the war against Israel; and started performing terrorist acts inside of Egypt, which led to a ban on the movement by the Egyptian government. A Muslim Brother assassinated the Prime Minister of Egypt, Mahmud Fahmi Nokrashi, on December 28, 1948. Al-Banna himself was killed by government agents in Cairo in February, 1949.
The Egyptian government legalized the Brotherhood again in 1948, but only as a religious organization; it was banned again in 1954 because it insisted that Egypt be governed under shari'a (Islamic law).
Abdul Munim Abdul Rauf, a Brotherhood activist, attempted to assassinate Egyptian President Nasser in 1954 and was executed, along with five other Brothers. Four thousand Brothers were also arrested, and thousands more fled to Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, and Lebanon.
Sound like Terrorists to me.
Why is she there supporting a terrorist group. What does that have to do with her son?
She should concentrate on the U.S. governments ILLEGAL prosecution of it's military.
Also, didn't her son VOLUNTEER to join the U.S. Military? |
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| hoochieking |
| 666666 you are kind of a dumb guy, no? |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
First of all, they are 40 member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Brotherhood grew as a popular movement over the next 20 years, encompassing not only religion and education, but also politics, through the Party of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hizb Al-Ikhwan Al-Muslimoon. It blamed the Egyptian government for being passive against "Zionists" and joined the Palestinian side in the war against Israel; and started performing terrorist acts inside of Egypt, which led to a ban on the movement by the Egyptian government. A Muslim Brother assassinated the Prime Minister of Egypt, Mahmud Fahmi Nokrashi, on December 28, 1948. Al-Banna himself was killed by government agents in Cairo in February, 1949.
The Egyptian government legalized the Brotherhood again in 1948, but only as a religious organization; it was banned again in 1954 because it insisted that Egypt be governed under shari'a (Islamic law).
Abdul Munim Abdul Rauf, a Brotherhood activist, attempted to assassinate Egyptian President Nasser in 1954 and was executed, along with five other Brothers. Four thousand Brothers were also arrested, and thousands more fled to Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, and Lebanon.
Sound like Terrorists to me.
Why is she there supporting a terrorist group. What does that have to do with her son?
She should concentrate on the U.S. governments ILLEGAL prosecution of it's military.
Also, didn't her son VOLUNTEER to join the U.S. Military? |
Yes, exactly...
And this part here:
Abdul Munim Abdul Rauf, a Brotherhood activist, attempted to assassinate Egyptian President Nasser in 1954 and was executed, along with five other Brothers. Four thousand Brothers were also arrested, and thousands more fled to Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, and Lebanon.
Caused Qutb's brother to flee to Saudi Arabia where he eventually taught Osama bin Laden. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
When you are engaged in an armed rebellion in your own country, expect a military tribunal. You have put yourself into the military arena and should be judged by the military, your peers.
Civilian courts are for civilians, their peers. |
I wasn't aware that donating money to an organization that happens to hold parliament seats is the same as "engaging in armed rebellion"
In December 2006, the government engaged in a wide-ranging crackdown against the Brotherhood, the country's largest opposition force — which holds one-fifth of the seats in the parliament — targeting in particular businessmen known to financially support the group.
Looks an awful lot like a political pogrom to me. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
I wasn't aware that donating money to an organization that happens to hold parliament seats is the same as "engaging in armed rebellion"
In December 2006, the government engaged in a wide-ranging crackdown against the Brotherhood, the country's largest opposition force — which holds one-fifth of the seats in the parliament — targeting in particular businessmen known to financially support the group.
Looks an awful lot like a political pogrom to me. |
There is a history. The Muslim Brotherhood is similar to Hamas or Hezballah in that it has different "wings". A political, a military, religious, social, etc.. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
There is a history. The Muslim Brotherhood is similar to Hamas or Hezballah in that it has different "wings". A political, a military, religious, social, etc.. |
So what you said before is bullshit.
Military courts are trying civilians.
thank you. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
So what you said before is bullshit.
Military courts are trying civilians.
thank you. |
I certainly did not say that. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I certainly did not say that. |
you said that military tribunals are for military personnel, and civilian courts are for civilians.
I posted the part that proved you wrong by saying that they are in fact trying businessmen who donated to a political organization in front of military tribunals.
you attempted to deflect that by saying that there are many "wings" of the organization, and named a few, but that does not change the fact that military tribunals are trying civilians, does it?
Maybe you should keep closer track of what you say. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
you said that military tribunals are for military personnel, and civilian courts are for civilians.
I posted the part that proved you wrong by saying that they are in fact trying businessmen who donated to a political organization in front of military tribunals.
you attempted to deflect that by saying that there are many "wings" of the organization, and named a few, but that does not change the fact that military tribunals are trying civilians, does it?
Maybe you should keep closer track of what you say. |
I do know what I say. No need for me to keep track of it.
If a person in Egypt is giving to the Muslim Brotherhood than he is engaging in an armed rebellion against the government. He is among the enemy. Supporting them.
Having different wings does not mean anything if one of those wings is a military force. Al Qaeda has different wings. Anyone supporting them financially is one of them.
During our Civil War many were held as the enemy even though they did not pick up a weapon. |
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| NickNuke |
It continues to amuse me how the liberal element in this country actually supports the militant Islamic agenda. If Bush went over there and was doing as Cindy Shithan does, oh, the agony.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Yes, exactly...
And this part here:
Abdul Munim Abdul Rauf, a Brotherhood activist, attempted to assassinate Egyptian President Nasser in 1954 and was executed, along with five other Brothers. Four thousand Brothers were also arrested, and thousands more fled to Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, and Lebanon.
Caused Qutb's brother to flee to Saudi Arabia where he eventually taught Osama bin Laden. |
We once "taught" Osama binLaden, too.
Just sayin'. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I do know what I say. No need for me to keep track of it.
If a person in Egypt is giving to the Muslim Brotherhood than he is engaging in an armed rebellion against the government. He is among the enemy. Supporting them.
Having different wings does not mean anything if one of those wings is a military force. Al Qaeda has different wings. Anyone supporting them financially is one of them.
During our Civil War many were held as the enemy even though they did not pick up a weapon. |
....and during WWII, many Asian Americans were rounded up and imprisoned by us. Doesn't make it right. |
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| MLBoros72s |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
It continues to amuse me how the liberal element in this country actually supports the militant Islamic agenda. If Bush went over there and was doing as Cindy Shithan does, oh, the agony.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder. |
Believing in liberty is a mental illness now?
Jesus you conservatives will stop at nothing.
If you don't believe everything we say, you hate America and want see all of our soldiers dead. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
It continues to amuse me how the liberal element in this country actually supports the militant Islamic agenda. If Bush went over there and was doing as Cindy Shithan does, oh, the agony.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder. |
But blind faith in George W Bush is not a mental disorder?
I'm sure you consider me part of the "liberal element" although I supported Ronald Reagan twice and Bob Dole when he ran against the cunt's husband.
This isn't about "liberalism." It is about blindly following a maniac because he SAYS he's conservative and christian. By his behavior, he is neither. |
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| zimmie |
Nearly two years after his tragic death in Iraq, Casey Sheehan's mom Cindy is blaming others for the fact that his grave site is unmarked after all this time. From The Reporter in Vacaville, CA:
A Vacaville funeral home owner took exception to "Peace Mom" Cindy Sheehan's allegation that his mortuary did not fulfill its duties after her son Casey was killed in Iraq in 2004.
In her blog last week, Sheehan wrote that the mortuary had refused to pay the cemetery as it was supposed to. Steve Nadeau, the mortuary's owner, said Monday that not only did he properly pay the cemetery, but that he subsidized the process with his own money.
This was not the only way in which he went above and beyond his responsibilities following Casey's death, said Nadeau. He also provided a stretch limousine and a driver at his expense, he said, and invited the family to go to the airport with him so that he could accompany them. None of this was required, said Nadeau.
"Having known the Sheehan family for many years through St. Mary's Catholic Church where Ms. Sheehan had previously been the youth director, it was my desire to provide care and dignity to Casey and the family. I did this in every respect."
Two years later and there's still no permanent headstone, because Cindy's too busy cuddling up to the likes of Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, and Hugo Chavez, though she still has time to pose for pictures on Casey's grave site.
The good news for the rest of the Sheehan family is that it now appears that a responsible adult is now in charge of getting the headstone.
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2006...-too-busy-f.php |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
We once "taught" Osama binLaden, too.
Just sayin'. |
The U.S. did not teach him anything... |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
The U.S. did not teach him anything... |
We "taught" him how to fight the Soviets. Remember? |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
We "taught" him how to fight the Soviets. Remember? |
No, we taught him nothing. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
No, we taught him nothing. |
Whatever. Continue to live in denial and allow the Reich wing to destroy all things good.....like the Constitution, human rights, etc.
Eventually, they'll come for you, too. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Whatever. Continue to live in denial and allow the Reich wing to destroy all things good.....like the Constitution, human rights, etc.
Eventually, they'll come for you, too. |
What the U.S. did was help the Afghan rebels.
What Osama bin Laden did was get together with Abdullah Azzam and create MAK. What they did was financing and they facilitated travel for Arabs wanting to join the Afghans. MAK kept track of Arab fighters and sent them to Afghan rebel units for incorporation in those units. bin Laden only fought in one battle against the Soviets, which the Arabs won. It was one of the very few Arab only units. Later he fought against the Soviet puppet government they created and existed after the Soviets left Afghanistan. That government actually outlived the Soviet Union. bin Laden failed in his fight with that government and then he returned home a hero to the Saudi's.
MAK was useful. It kept track of the Arab fighters that went to Afghanistan and notified families of the deaths. It however also served as the forerunner to al Qaeda which means "the base". The base was the database of these Arab fighters and it was understood that bin Laden could call on them for later Jihads. He offered just that to the Saudi's when Iraq threatened them during Iraq's Kuwait adventure.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the U.S. in any way dealt with Osama bin Laden during the Afghan - Soviet War.
Having said that I can see no reason that would be a problem even if we did train him or supported him. We did not know the future and we were in the Cold War. It would be no big deal at all if we had supported and trained him. But, we did not. |
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| WillowGlen |
| I saw the thread title and figured it was a thread about Zimmie. |
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| dreadlock |
| cindy for pres! |
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| jigzaw |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Whatever. Continue to live in denial and allow the Reich wing to destroy all things good.....like the Constitution, human rights, etc.
Eventually, they'll come for you, too. |
Whatever.. It might be useful to know what you're talking about.
Like knowing the difference between an Afghan and an Arab. We helped the Afghans. The Arabs, led by bin Laden, were carpetbaggers who were asked to leave many times by the Afghans because they were more trouble than they were worth. They were a bunch of bumbling, zealous geeks.. of course they've gotten a lot more lethal since those days. |
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
But blind faith in George W Bush is not a mental disorder?
I'm sure you consider me part of the "liberal element" although I supported Ronald Reagan twice and Bob Dole when he ran against the cunt's husband.
This isn't about "liberalism." It is about blindly following a maniac because he SAYS he's conservative and christian. By his behavior, he is neither. |
I hate George Bush. I consider myself independent conservative. I was once very liberal, but kids, taxes, living in NYC, and host of other epiphanies changed my views. |
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| modeams |
If sheehan had a dick we wouldn't be having this discussion, the realization of our horrible "blunder" would have occurred before Bush was elected a second time...
damn shame, and yes she's crazy... but thats ok. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I do know what I say. No need for me to keep track of it.
If a person in Egypt is giving to the Muslim Brotherhood than he is engaging in an armed rebellion against the government. He is among the enemy. Supporting them.
Having different wings does not mean anything if one of those wings is a military force. Al Qaeda has different wings. Anyone supporting them financially is one of them.
During our Civil War many were held as the enemy even though they did not pick up a weapon. |
I guess you missed the part where it said that they hold PARLIAMENT SEATS.
That's a weird attribute for a party that is in open armed rebellion against the government.
How many confederates occupied U.S. senate seats during the civil war? |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
It continues to amuse me how the liberal element in this country actually supports the militant Islamic agenda. If Bush went over there and was doing as Cindy Shithan does, oh, the agony.....
Liberalism is a mental disorder. |
It's not that we support them - it's just that we don't support you. There's a big difference. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
I hate George Bush. I consider myself independent conservative. I was once very liberal, but kids, taxes, living in NYC, and host of other epiphanies changed my views. |
Oh!!! I get it now! You're bitter.
You hate George Bush - way to go out on a limb, there. You wanna go ahead and take a brave stand against cancer too?
Let me ask you something, "independant conservative" - How did you vote in the last two Presidential elections?
You were once very liberal, but now you hate your kids, hate paying your fair share, and you hate living in the urine-soaked shit hole known as NYC. Basically, you hate your entire life, so now the world must pay.
You will make them all pay by electing any corrupt douchebag who promises to spread your misery. How sad.
You called liberalism a mental disorder, and then in this post you admitted to having a mental disorder. You're not building a great foundation of credibility, here. Just a thought. :p |
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