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Lunarisx718
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldETRlhiXk
Reverend Tyler
Is he gonna win next Tuesday? He is getting challenged for his house seat....
Lunarisx718
from what i know, he's raised a million for the campaign and he is doing quite well against peden.
Luther
Incredible.
Luther
Bernanke does make one good point - Congress has the power to abolish the Federal Reserve monetary inflation system and establish a fair currency. Unfortunately Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate and probably the only member of Congress who advocates so doing.
MLBoros72s
:cheer: Ron Paul :cheer:
Reverend Tyler
Quote: Originally posted by Lunarisx718
from what i know, he's raised a million for the campaign and he is doing quite well against peden.


Yeah I actually just saw a poll where he is way in the lead. I also have no clue how Texas Congressional primaries are regulated - only registered Republicans or an open primary?
Lunarisx718
i couldn't say. All i know is i can't wait until after tuesday so Dr.Paul can win and get back to focusing on the presidential campaign. The more time that passes the more dirt can come out on Mccain.
MLBoros72s
It's mathematically impossible for Huckabee to win at this point, who's nearly doubled and tripled Paul's delegates and has actually won a few states...why doesn't Dr.Paul just end this tragically ignored and implausible Presidential bid and get back to work for his district?
Lunarisx718
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s
It's mathematically impossible for Huckabee to win at this point, who's nearly doubled and tripled Paul's delegates and has actually won a few states...why doesn't Dr.Paul just end this tragically ignored and implausible Presidential bid and get back to work for his district?



oh so your a quitter? well ron paul isn't. Let me educate you on something real quick, Mccain doesn't have enough delegates to win the nomination as of now. He needs to win the remaining states in order to secure the needed amount. IF he doesn't there will be a brokered convention and in that case anything can happen. Don't forget there is a lot of time between now and september and alot of things can happen that can turn the tide of this race.


i'll leave you with my favorite Paul clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlacFmRGPgI

Let me see if I get this right….

We borrow 10 billion dollars from China and then we give it to [Gen. Pervez] Musharraf, who is a military dictator, who overthrew an elected government, and then we go to war? We loose all the lives promoting democracy IN IRAQ?!
Reverend Tyler
Well it would be good if he actually used the money people donated to his campaign, yeah? I mean he hasn't spent it in any smart ways, but still...


He's a very good fund-raiser but a horrible campaign strategist.
Luther
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Well it would be good if he actually used the money people donated to his campaign, yeah? I mean he hasn't spent it in any smart ways, but still...


He's a very good fund-raiser but a horrible campaign strategist.



It's better to be right on the issues than to have a winning personality.
MLBoros72s
Quote: Originally posted by Lunarisx718
oh so your a quitter? well ron paul isn't. Let me educate you on something real quick, Mccain doesn't have enough delegates to win the nomination as of now. He needs to win the remaining states in order to secure the needed amount. IF he doesn't there will be a brokered convention and in that case anything can happen. Don't forget there is a lot of time between now and september and alot of things can happen that can turn the tide of this race.


i'll leave you with my favorite Paul clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlacFmRGPgI

I'm not a quitter or a Republican, I'm a realist but I respect Ron Paul and his opinions.
But I don't of the party who's nomination he's after, he's a pink/green/purple elephant in a party filled with only gray ones. The Republican party will NEVER nominate Ron Paul. Read: NEVER.
Lunarisx718
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s
I'm not a quitter or a Republican, I'm a realist but I respect Ron Paul and his opinions.
But I don't of the party who's nomination he's after, he's a pink/green/purple elephant in a party filled with only gray ones. The Republican party will NEVER nominate Ron Paul. Read: NEVER.




yet his views are the views of the true republican party the way it was meant to be. the other candidates are what you call neo-cons!


look i'd rather have him run 3rd party too, but i think it would just garner more ridicule so maybe it is the right choice to not run third party.
MLBoros72s
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
It's better to be right on the issues than to have a winning personality.

The type of idealism that lives within a Ron Paul supporter...that's so false it's ridiculous.
Being "right on issues" is a totally personal perspective, because everyone is not completely uniform on all issues.
Having a winning/magnanimous personality, however, can make someone like a candidate even if they strongly disagree with them. I'm an atheist but I like Mike Huckabee.
MLBoros72s
Quote: Originally posted by Lunarisx718
yet his views are the views of the true republican party the way it was meant to be. the other candidates are what you call neo-cons!


look i'd rather have him run 3rd party too, but i think it would just garner more ridicule so maybe it is the right choice to not run third party.

EXACTLY! The Republican party is at the absolute mercy of the Neoconservatives! They decide every single talking points and party platform and that will not change anytime soon. Ron Paul will never win their support.
Lunarisx718
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s
The type of idealism that lives within a Ron Paul supporter...that's so false it's ridiculous.
Being "right on issues" is a totally personal perspective, because everyone is not completely uniform on all issues.
Having a winning/magnanimous personality, however, can make someone like a candidate even if they strongly disagree with them. I'm an atheist but I like Mike Huckabee.


been listening to Huckabee lately? he has gotten so desperate he has started to steal Ron Paul's platform. Now he is talking about getting rid of the IRS LOL so much for the huckabee platform
Luther
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s
The type of idealism that lives within a Ron Paul supporter...that's so false it's ridiculous.
Being "right on issues" is a totally personal perspective, because everyone is not completely uniform on all issues.
Having a winning/magnanimous personality, however, can make someone like a candidate even if they strongly disagree with them. I'm an atheist but I like Mike Huckabee.


Determining right and wrong is not a blind process like throwing darts in the dark. At least it shouldn't be. Do you think Hitler and Stalin were bad for no reason other than because that is how your "personal perspective" evaluates them?
Lunarisx718
back on the topic of the bernanke and federal reserve

Faux news actually talked to Ron Paul, i for one am at a loss for words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EZeNulOz9E
MLBoros72s
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
Determining right and wrong is not a blind process like throwing darts in the dark. At least it shouldn't be. Do you think Hitler and Stalin were bad for no reason other than because that is how your "personal perspective" evaluates them?

Um, yes. If you're a Communist Russian with a strong sense of Nationalism, then you don't see Stalin as bad. If you're a Neo-Nazi/anti-Semite whatever, then Hitler isn't bad to you. That's your personal perspective.
Otherwise, for the most part, you see them for what they were: Totalitarian dictatorial megalomaniacs who slaughtered millions of innocent victims.
Luther
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s
Um, yes. If you're a Communist Russian with a strong sense of Nationalism, then you don't see Stalin as bad. If you're a Neo-Nazi/anti-Semite whatever, then Hitler isn't bad to you. That's your personal perspective.
Otherwise, for the most part, you see them for what they were: Totalitarian dictatorial megalomaniacs who slaughtered millions of innocent victims.


You are talking about people who operate on lower level reasoning abilities alone. It is regrettable that you consider yourself in that category. I myself do not.
Luther
Quote: Originally posted by Lunarisx718
back on the topic of the bernanke and federal reserve

Faux news actually talked to Ron Paul, i for one am at a loss for words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EZeNulOz9E



Once again, the only politician to demonstrate an understanding of fundamental economics.
Lunarisx718
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
You are talking about people who operate on lower level reasoning abilities alone. It is regrettable that you consider yourself in that category. I myself do not.




well said :D
MLBoros72s
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
You are talking about people who operate on lower level reasoning abilities alone. It is regrettable that you consider yourself in that category. I myself do not.


People who operate on rudimentary reasoning are real and make up much of the rank and file voters of America.
Politics isn't simply choosing issues and hoping to be elected by process of correctness, it's about having a message, conveying it to the masses, having a plan, and being able to appeal to your party's base.
Again, I'm not happy we're in a 2 party system, but it's the reality of American politics.
Ron Paul chose great and smart points on the issues,but that's only my interpretation.
Republicans were deaf to this message which is why he went virtually ignored.
The Republican party's voice is led by Faux News and neo-cons who saw Ron Paul as some sort of insane alien.
Reverend Tyler
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
It's better to be right on the issues than to have a winning personality.


Being right on the issues is pointless if nobody knows who you are. He had no organizational strength and used very little money on advertising and made few campaign stops. None of that has to do with likeability.
Reverend Tyler
Quote: Originally posted by Lunarisx718
oh so your a quitter? well ron paul isn't. Let me educate you on something real quick, Mccain doesn't have enough delegates to win the nomination as of now. He needs to win the remaining states in order to secure the needed amount. IF he doesn't there will be a brokered convention and in that case anything can happen. Don't forget there is a lot of time between now and september and alot of things can happen that can turn the tide of this race.


i'll leave you with my favorite Paul clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlacFmRGPgI

Let me see if I get this right….

We borrow 10 billion dollars from China and then we give it to [Gen. Pervez] Musharraf, who is a military dictator, who overthrew an elected government, and then we go to war? We loose all the lives promoting democracy IN IRAQ?!



Ron Paul has 14 delegates. McCain has over 1000. Sorry, but those 14 delegates dont count for shit.
Monster_Zero
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Being right on the issues is pointless if nobody knows who you are. He had no organizational strength and used very little money on advertising and made few campaign stops. None of that has to do with likeability.


I see that you are repeating the same lies I challenged you to refute before... :rolleyes:

Dr Paul has spent 80% of his War Chest, already... It's only February!! :rolleyes:


According to last month's (jan31,08) estimates:
Total Receipts: $32,642,445
Total Spent: $26,512,232
Cash on Hand: $6,002,188
Debts: $0

Because the most fiscally responsible candidate hasn't gone into debt, you assume he isn't spending enough? :rolleyes:

Yea, I know you haven't seen an ad... so you feel gypped... Boo-hoo! :rolleyes:
Reverend Tyler
So you think he's gonna take that convention by storm with his 14 delegates? We should hold off counting him out, he may pick up another 4!!
Monster_Zero
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
So you think he's gonna take that convention by storm with his 14 delegates? We should hold off counting him out, he may pick up another 4!!


No, I think you should stop slandering a candidate with lies... it makes you look ignorant. :rolleyes:
Luther
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Being right on the issues is pointless if nobody knows who you are. He had no organizational strength and used very little money on advertising and made few campaign stops. None of that has to do with likeability.



You are factually challenged.
relsh
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s

Being "right on issues" is a totally personal perspective


it really isn't.

we're not dealing in open-ended or general ethical debates.....we're talking about political positions, which in this country are measured against a specific set of criteria. "feeling" that something is correct, shouldn't be good enough (although, that's where we unfortunately are).
afterage41
It is time for mainstream Republicans to welcome and assist the Ron Paul Republicans in reviving a stronger GOP with a clear and powerful voice for the future. It is time for mainstream Republicans to support Ron Paul as their best chance, for not only winning the election in 2008, but in reviving the Republican party and its conservative ideals.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UmsP95Bl9pM
relsh
Quote: Originally posted by afterage41
It is time for mainstream Republicans to welcome and assist the Ron Paul Republicans in reviving a stronger GOP with a clear and powerful voice for the future. It is time for mainstream Republicans to support Ron Paul as their best chance, for not only winning the election in 2008, but in reviving the Republican party and its conservative ideals.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UmsP95Bl9pM



mainstream republicans reject the constitution almost as much as democrats.

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