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| Luther |
Ron Paul & Dennis Kucinich Way Ahead for Reelection
Polls released yesterday and today show that Antiwar congressmen Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are well ahead in their reelection campaigns. Both polls were conducted by Public Policy Polling.
Ron Paul leads his only GOP opponent, Chris Peden, 63-30%. He has no Democratic Party opponent.
Dennis Kucinich leads his Democratic opponents with 55%, over 29% for Joe Cimperman. Three other candidates register 5% or lower.
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02...for-reelection/ |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
Ron Paul & Dennis Kucinich Way Ahead for Reelection
Polls released yesterday and today show that Antiwar congressmen Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are well ahead in their reelection campaigns. Both polls were conducted by Public Policy Polling.
Ron Paul leads his only GOP opponent, Chris Peden, 63-30%. He has no Democratic Party opponent.
Dennis Kucinich leads his Democratic opponents with 55%, over 29% for Joe Cimperman. Three other candidates register 5% or lower.
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02...for-reelection/ |
Hope the polls are not the same ones he had for his Presidential bid................lol |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| He was never up in the polls for President...no scientific polls anyway. |
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| MLBoros72s |
| Dennis is a great guy, too bad he's so freaking...weird. |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
He was never up in the polls for President...no scientific polls anyway. |
I meant Paul, my bad....whose dennis anyways. Is that the guy that saw the UFO ? |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
I meant Paul, my bad....whose dennis anyways. Is that the guy that saw the UFO ? |
I know who you meant, and Paul never rose above 5 percent in any poll that I ever saw...again, scientific polls, not text message or internet-based. |
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| JTProcess |
| Both these men are heroes. It's good to see that the people in their districts recognize that even if the majority of the public does not. |
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| merrie |
| Thanks for letting us know this, Luther. I donated to Dennis' congressional campaign recently (and it goes without saying that I supported him for president this time and in 2004). Good to see the corporate oppressors are not going to get rid of this thorn in their side! |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by merrie
Thanks for letting us know this, Luther. I donated to Dennis' congressional campaign recently (and it goes without saying that I supported him for president this time and in 2004). Good to see the corporate oppressors are not going to get rid of this thorn in their side! |
The country needs at least a few truth-tellers in this most corrupt government of ours. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| THOSE 2 KNUCKLE HEADS CAN DO SHIT. WE ALREADY HAVE MILITARISM HERE THEY JUST HAVN'T UNLEASHED THEM ON THE PEOPLE YET. BLACK WATER IS COMING TO A HOOD NEAR YOU VERY SOON. |
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| Stonewall |
Real good news.
We don't have to worry about a Civil War.
Of course once you leave the borders of the U.S., what are the polls in Iran? |
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| jigzaw |
| I'm glad to hear this, but it's funny that Kucinich and Paul are ideological polar opposites, but championed by a similar fan base. |
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| Anogram |
Quote: Originally posted by mb33139
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Indeed :beer:
This is good news. I was worried that Dennis might be in deep trouble since he was coming under attack. Always good to hear Ron Paul still doing good in his area too. Wonder if his son is going into politics. |
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| modeams |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
THOSE 2 KNUCKLE HEADS CAN DO SHIT. WE ALREADY HAVE MILITARISM HERE THEY JUST HAVN'T UNLEASHED THEM ON THE PEOPLE YET. BLACK WATER IS COMING TO A HOOD NEAR YOU VERY SOON. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
Dennis Kucinich leads his Democratic opponents with 55%, over 29% for Joe Cimperman. |
How is he doing vs the repuke tho? |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s
Dennis is a great guy, too bad he's so freaking...weird. |
I wish I were more like him....!
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
I'm glad to hear this, but it's funny that Kucinich and Paul are ideological polar opposites, but championed by a similar fan base. |
How is being a "social" vs. a "classical" Liberal, being "ideological polar opposites"???
Ignorant moron.
Quote: Wiki:
Liberalism:
Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Middle Ages and Age of Enlightenment.
Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals — as well as some adherents of other political ideologies — support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[3]
Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion. Social progressivism, the belief that traditions do not carry any inherent value and social practices ought to be continuously adjusted for the greater benefit of humanity, is a common component of liberal ideology. Liberalism is also strongly associated with the belief that human society should be organized in accordance with certain unchangeable and inviolable rights. Different schools of liberalism are based on different conceptions of human rights, but there are some rights that all liberals support to some extent, including rights to life, liberty, and property.
Within liberalism, there are two major currents of thought that often compete over the use of the term "liberal" and have been known to clash on many issues, as they differ on their understanding of what constitutes freedom. Classical liberals, believe that the provision of negative rights, that is freedom from coercion alone, constitutes freedom.[4] As a result they see state intervention in the economy as a coercive power that restricts freedom when enforced coercively by law, emphasize laissez-faire economic policy, and oppose the welfare state.[5] Social liberals argue that freedom from economic as well as physical coercion is necessary for real freedom. They generally favor such positive rights as the right to vote, the right to an education, the right to health care, and the right to a living wage. Some also favor laws against discrimination in housing and employment, laws against pollution of the environment, and the provision of welfare, including unemployment benefit and housing for the homeless, all supported by progressive taxation.[4] |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
THOSE 2 KNUCKLE HEADS CAN DO SHIT. WE ALREADY HAVE MILITARISM HERE THEY JUST HAVN'T UNLEASHED THEM ON THE PEOPLE YET. BLACK WATER IS COMING TO A HOOD NEAR YOU VERY SOON. |
Well, ya know DUPE, I did see a Black Water Humvee cruzin' down the 57 this week. It was bright yellow, and had that ghey logo as the rear license plate (you know, the one suxsixdix used as his AV) and on the sides.
The driver was laughably cliche (I pulled up alongside to examine what kind of scum this could be). A white collared shirt, black sunglasses and a flat-top. I pictured black "fatigues" tucked into jackboots.
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| relsh |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
I'm glad to hear this, but it's funny that Kucinich and Paul are ideological polar opposites, but championed by a similar fan base. |
the drain/strain on our human, natural, and fiscal resources by a militarist/imperialist foreign policy is non-partisan. |
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| Luther |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
I'm glad to hear this, but it's funny that Kucinich and Paul are ideological polar opposites, but championed by a similar fan base. |
That is an oversimplification. |
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| merrie |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
I'm glad to hear this, but it's funny that Kucinich and Paul are ideological polar opposites, but championed by a similar fan base. |
Most Kucinich supporters know the difference and do not support Ron Paul, and were never advocates of them on the same ticket. (The people who don't just _like_ Kucinich, but campaigned for him, voted for him, contributed to him, deeply understand all his stands.)
There are many Ron Paul supporters who are _not_ libertarians and who are as ignorant about the real Ron Paul agenda as were the supporters of Howard Dean 4 years ago, who thought Howard Dean was in any way liberal or progressive. These people hear what Ron Paul has to say about getting out of Iraq, and assume incorrectly that Ron Paul is a liberal or progressive.
Of course, people who are themselves libertarian and who understand _all_ of Ron Paul's stands are his real supporters. (I am not one of them.)
You cannot be highly familiar with all the stands of both men and still politically support both of them. You may be able to respect them as being honest and having integrity in general, but you could not want both of them making policy decisions. |
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