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| BarkonCue |
 For quite a while, CENTCOM Commander Adm. William Fallon has not exactly been diligent about reading Republican talking points, especially when it comes to Iran. Right around the time the White House was blustering about “World War III,” Fallon said publicly, “[G]enerally, the bellicose comments are not particularly helpful.” Worse, from the Bush gang’s perspective, Fallon didn’t even support the “surge” policy in Iraq.
Last week, Thomas P.M. Barnett published a piece in Esquire noting that Bush has noticed Fallon’s independent thinking, and doesn’t care for it.
Well-placed observers now say that it will come as no surprise if Fallon is relieved of his command before his time is up next spring, maybe as early as this summer, in favor of a commander the White House considers to be more pliable. If that were to happen, it may well mean that the president and vice-president intend to take military action against Iran before the end of this year and don’t want a commander standing in their way.
And so Fallon, the good cop, may soon be unemployed because he’s doing what a generation of young officers in the U. S. military are now openly complaining that their leaders didn’t do on their behalf in the run-up to the war in Iraq: He’s standing up to the commander in chief, whom he thinks is contemplating a strategically unsound war.
Just six days ago, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino was asked specifically whether Fallon’s position was secure until the end of his tenure. She wouldn’t answer the question.
Today, it became clear why.
Fallon didn’t even last until the summer.
Adm. William Fallon, the top U.S. military commander for the Middle East, is resigning, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Tuesday.
Gates said Fallon had asked him Tuesday morning for permission to retire and Gates agreed. Gates said the decision was entirely Fallon’s and that Gates believed it was “the right thing to do.”
Fallon was the subject of an article published last week in Esquire magazine that portrayed him as opposed to President Bush’s Iran policy. It described Fallon as a lone voice against taking military action to stop the Iranian nuclear program.
Gates described as “ridiculous” any notion that Fallon’s departure signals the United States is planning to go to war with Iran. And he said “there is a misperception” that Fallon disagrees with the administration’s approach to Iran.
“I don’t think there were differences at all,” Gates added.
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| artechba |
| From Eric Shinseki to Admiral Fallon. They will not stop. |
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| Reed Rothchild |
| That Esquire article is pretty good; a military leader that can see the importance of talking to our adversaries as the first best option, and if you have to go to war, you go all in. |
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| Anogram |
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue
Thomas P.M. Barnett |
:tu:
Those who have made the errors are still making the decisions to allow for more mistakes. Sorry Adm Fallon, he is another statistic. |
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| mingmen |
| gear up for higher oil prices :doh: |
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| Reverend Tyler |
:ps:
Thank you for your service and courageousness, Admiral. |
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| WillowGlen |
I love how every press release on this says that it was totally "his idea" to suddenly retire.
Sure it was. :rolleyes: |
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| Fdubya247 |
If you speak the Truth, you have no place under the Dumbya Admin.
You have to be a goose-stepping "yes-man" to be worthy.....
:hitler::ps: |
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| zimmie |
| Fuck him. He's not there to state his opinions, he's there to carry out his mission. If he wants to whine, get rid of him. |
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| WillowGlen |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Fuck him. He's not there to state his opinions, he's there to carry out his mission. If he wants to whine, get rid of him. |
Yeah what does he know. He only has decades of actual experience. Were better of with the decisions of a narrowminded deserter from the Texas National guard who's bought and paid for by the oil companies. He been doing so well with the "statergery" so far.
Actually what we really need is a true warrior like you Zimmie to step up and take control. All that real experience you got pretending you were former military should come in handy. :rolleyes: |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by WillowGlen
Actually what we really need is a true warrior like you Zimmie to step up and take control. All that real experience you got pretending you were former military should come in handy. :rolleyes: |
zimmietard
Irrelevant Member
Eating-Shit
Posting Frequency__________________________
Like A Retaaaaded Little Marching Soldier... |
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| zimmie |
| he's frustrated whiner...reminds me of you and fdummy |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmietard
he's frustrated whiner... |
How dare he be "frustrated" with incompetence and LIES...!!!!
:rolleyes: |
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| patcracker |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
he's frustrated whiner...reminds me of you and fdummy |
This is the last one of the Vietnam era General Officers. I have met Officers from this cloth and they will give thier view of what is needed and do not kiss ass to deliver it. If the planning was done by these Officers than you wouldnt have the cluster fuck that you have now. The fact that these officers were excluded is a testament to this monumental debacle. And you wonder why the elder Bush didnt go to Baghdad. |
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| jigzaw |
| Well, we gotta give the guy a chance to say something before we all jump to conclusions. If he's really an outspoken critic of the Administration, surely he'll say they're lying about his voluntary retirement. Otherwise, he is a pretty old dude. |
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| artechba |
Eric Shinseki warned against the plan to invade with the number of troops we had in Iraq in 2003. He said more troops were needed to hold the place together after Shock and Awe. Cheney and others pushed him out the door calling him a lunatic behind his back "We will be greeted with flowers".
So whatever these old school generals and admirals have to say about Iraq and Iran I listen. |
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| Rastamon |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
If he's really an outspoken critic of the Administration, surely he'll say they're lying about his voluntary retirement. |
realistic now equals outspoken to jigsaw
you really doubt that he is being forced out? and you think moving ahead on Iran is good? I understand playing devil's advocate - but why insult your own intelligence? |
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| Rastamon |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
Well, we gotta give the guy a chance to say something before we all jump to conclusions. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
Well, we gotta give the guy a chance to say something before we all jump to conclusions. If he's really an outspoken critic of the Administration, surely he'll say they're lying about his voluntary retirement. Otherwise, he is a pretty old dude. |
Are you capable of posting without exposing yourself as an ignoramus?
Look at you polishing that turd.
You've never heard of Admiral Fallon or the things he's said? But still you speak....
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| artechba |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Fuck him. He's not there to state his opinions, he's there to carry out his mission. If he wants to whine, get rid of him. |
He was doing his job. He's not gonna go in and lose like we did in Iraq because Shinseki was forced out the same way. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Rastamon
realistic now equals outspoken to jigsaw
you really doubt that he is being forced out? and you think moving ahead on Iran is good? I understand playing devil's advocate - but why insult your own intelligence? |
slackjaw and BCStupid are operating on similar levels of stupidity. |
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| jigzaw |
Quote: Originally posted by Rastamon
realistic now equals outspoken to jigsaw
you really doubt that he is being forced out? and you think moving ahead on Iran is good? I understand playing devil's advocate - but why insult your own intelligence? |
Assume much? |
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| Rastamon |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
He was doing his job. He's not gonna go in and lose like we did in Iraq because Shinseki was forced out the same way. |
then when it is all over zimmiefuck will fault him for not speaking up and doing his job :ce:
republicunts :p |
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| Rastamon |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
Assume much? |
point of the errors |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
Eric Shinseki warned against the plan to invade with the number of troops we had in Iraq in 2003. He said more troops were needed to hold the place together after Shock and Awe. Cheney and others pushed him out the door calling him a lunatic behind his back "We will be greeted with flowers".
So whatever these old school generals and admirals have to say about Iraq and Iran I listen. |
Wait a second here. You mean to actually listen to the people/voices that have been right ALL ALONG...?!?!?!
What a novel idea!!!! Incomprehensible even...!!!!
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| Rastamon |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
Assume much? |
point out the errors |
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| Reed Rothchild |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
he's frustrated whiner...reminds me of you and fdummy |
He should be frustrated. Frustrated shouldn't even begin to describe how he should be feeling as he probably has more insight into how badly this "war on terror" has been bungled. |
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| jigzaw |
Quote: Originally posted by Rastamon
point out the errors |
All I said is we should see what the general we're talking about has to say about his resignation, whether he was pressured or what.
You've concluded that I'm diminishing his positions. You've concluded that I'm in favor of "moving on Iran". Lot's of kneejerking going on for just one post. |
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| Rastamon |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
All I said is we should see what the general we're talking about has to say about his resignation, whether he was pressured or what.
You've concluded that I'm diminishing his positions. You've concluded that I'm in favor of "moving on Iran". Lot's of kneejerking going on for just one post. |
lots of no point :bigclap: |
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| Fdubya247 |
CentCom Chief, Admiral Fallon: "Petraeus Is ‘an Ass-Kissing, Little Chickenshit’. I hate people like that."
:opps: |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
All I said is we should see what the general we're talking about has to say about his resignation, whether he was pressured or what. |
:rolleyes:
Idiot. |
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| artechba |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
CentCom Chief, Admiral Fallon: "Petraeus Is ‘an Ass-Kissing, Little Chickenshit’. I hate people like that."
:opps: |
Petraeus is a joke. He's an ass kisser who started kissing ass by marrying his superior's daughter all the way up to telling this administration what they want to hear.
LDRSHP is not on his wall |
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| jigzaw |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
:rolleyes:
Idiot. |
You're not interested in what the man has to say about his own resignation? |
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| Rastamon |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
You're not interested in what the man has to say about his own resignation? |
are you familiar with the concept of reading between the lines? how does the Bush administration deal with dissent? |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue
Last week, Thomas P.M. Barnett published a piece in Esquire noting that Bush has noticed Fallon’s independent thinking, and doesn’t care for it. |
I didn't know Barnett wrote for Esquire... Every US citizen should read his book:
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| sixsixsix666 |
| Good, get him out. Do your job and keep your mouth shut. artcheba, we can both agree that he needs to can his beliefs. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
You're not interested in what the man has to say about his own resignation? |
:freak: |
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