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| Pussah2 |
Good article by Jon Heyman on SI.com
Jose Canseco -- self-professed truth teller and whistleblower on alleged liars -- appears to be caught in a whopper here.
Canseco claims in his new book, Vindicated, that the reason he "hates [Alex Rodriguez's] guts'' is because A-Rod hit on Canseco's then-wife Jessica. However, people who were close confidants of Canseco insist the actual reason the ex-ballplayer despises A-Rod has nothing to do with Canseco's former wife but regards Canseco's true passion, which, of course, is money.
Those former confidants told SI.com the rift between the two Miami-raised superstars actually occurred when Rodriguez chose not to let Canseco and his brother, Ozzie, be his agents. Those former confidants say Canseco was bitterly disappointed in A-Rod's business rejection.
"I know Jose, and I know Jose very well. He would be madder at A-Rod for not signing with the agency than for going after Jessica,'' said Juan Iglesias, a well-respected Miami-based player agent and former business associate of Canseco's.
"At that time, Jose wanted to focus on his professional life. He and his wife were struggling throughout the '90's and into the 2000's. At that time, they were in the process of getting divorced. Jose was in a disrespectful situation and was with other women.''
Yet another former close confidant of Canseco's agreed that the rift had nothing to do with Jessica and instead came about when Canseco lost the client he thought would make a success out of his fledgling South Florida Sports Council, which instead became another of Canseco's failed business ventures. "That's where the animosity comes from,'' the former Canseco confidant said.
Canseco is big on revenge, and in Vindicated he makes no secret that he hates A-Rod's (bleeping) guts. How do we know? Because Canseco writes those very words to A-Rod, "I hate your (bleeping) guts.''
And the reason he hates A-Rod's guts may be the most interesting thing in a book generally bereft of interesting things. According to Canseco, it's because A-Rod, a bachelor at the time, constantly ogled, telephoned and hit on Jessica.
Canseco's book, which professes to be a paragon of truth and chides others for failing to tell the truth, never once mentions his failed agency or how he needed Rodriguez, a former fast friend from Miami, to hire him. And that is no small thing. Had A-Rod agreed to become a client, as Canseco hoped, his career as an agent would have been made.
This point is key because in Canseco's sequel there isn't even one great claim, there's just one great name -- Rodriguez's -- which explains the subtitle, "Big Names, Big Liars and the Battle to Save Baseball.''
Canseco writes that he introduced Rodriguez to a known dealer of steroids (his italics, not mine), and that he isn't sure what happened after that. Of course, it isn't a crime to shake someone's hand, and Canseco offers no proof that this happened. Yet without that tidbit, there is no book. Even with it, there's barely a book.
Now Canseco's story regarding A-Rod going after Jessica looks at best incomplete, and at worst a complete fabrication.
"Alex was a gentleman with the guy. If he says that about [Rodriguez], I hate to think what he says about me,'' Iglesias said. "I never heard one word about him going after Jose's wife. Never. Not one word. And I would have heard that. We were personal friends. ''
Iglesias said he watched Canseco calling out A-Rod on Nightline this week and he couldn't believe what he was hearing. But having lived through it with him, he did believe it.
"The whole thing with A-Rod is absolutely false,'' said Iglesias, who recalled that the Cansecos and A-Rod doubled dated at the 1995 Super Bowl in Miami. "Jose didn't write it in his first book, and Jessica didn't write it in her book. And she talked about everybody she [had a relationship with]. If A-Rod had anything to do with her, that's [a] headline and that would have been in the book.''
Of course, Rodriguez went on to sign a record-breaking $252-million contract shortly after rejecting Canseco's overtures (costing Canseco $12.6 million in agent's fees, in Canseco's mind, anyway). A-Rod declined to discuss their past business differences when asked about them earlier this spring and has said very little publicly about the Canseco book. When asked about Canseco's claim that he tried to pick up Jessica, A-Rod's response was, "He said that in his book?"
Iglesias and Canseco had what Iglesias described as a "falling out'' when Canseco rejected the idea that Iglesias be a 50-50 partner in the venture, even though Iglesias has major-league clients like Livan Hernandez and Antonio Alfonseca. Iglesias said he wants to reveal what caused their own falling out because he said he knows, "If it ever becomes a topic, [Canseco's] going to make up a million things.''
According to his former confidants, Canseco tried hard to convince A-Rod to join his agency. Iglesias said his only business contact with A-Rod came at the behest of Canseco, when Rodriguez called for his professional opinion of how much he was worth. Rodriguez wound up signing a $10-million extension with the Mariners at the time.
Iglesias said Canseco was hoping to land A-Rod to foster the high lifestyle he and Ozzie were enjoying. "They wanted to lead the Mac Daddy agenting life,'' said Iglesias, who has represented several major leagues.
Iglesias acknowledged that a lot of what Canseco wrote in his first book, Juiced, turned out to be true, but that Canseco "can tend to go off on tangents.'' Like this one, for instance .
Canseco's new book features alleged results from a lie detector test, to show how truthful he is. But apparently he wasn't hooked up to a lie detector for the entire section of why he hates A-Rod, which is a pretty long detailed description about Rodriguez supposedly "ogling'' Jessica, then allegedly calling her to hit on her.
I called Canseco's lawyer Rob Saunooke to see what he knew about the failed business relationship. While Saunooke knew Ozzie was part of the agency (Ozzie was apparently the figurehead while Jose, then an active player, tried to procure clients), he said that episode came before he began representing Canseco and that he wasn't aware of it.
Anyway, Canseco's agency ultimately failed and is believed to have cost Jose Canseco more millions. People who know him say Canseco's many money-losing ventures has left him in much more a precarious financial situation than you'd think for a player who made $45 million in what was once a brilliant (if steroid-fueled) career. Canseco apparently still lives a high lifestyle.
Three years ago when I tried to visit Canseco, he had a residence overlooking the Los Angeles Valley in a fancy section of Encino, Calif., near Michael Jackson, plus a Rolls-Royce Phantom in the garage. However, a person familiar with one of the mortgages on one of Canseco's luxury properties say his financial woes caused him to take out a loan at a usurious rate. So while he lives well, his liquidity may be confined to Winstrol.
For a vengeful, law-skirting, egomaniacal money grubber, Canseco wasn't doing too badly there for a while. His batting average was pretty good in his first book, as he points out over and over again in his victory lap of a follow-up. But it's taking a tumble here.
He should have quit while he was ahead. While this new book does have a little juice to it, there is almost no meat. And what meat there is, well, it's rotten enough to turn Roger Clemens into a vegan.
Beyond the revelation over why Canseco really hates A-Rod, here are three more reasons that Canseco isn't especially credible, reliable or believable.
1. Canseco tried through an intermediary to get Magglio Ordonez to invest $5 million in a film project and suggested he might keep Ordonez "clear'' from the book, an offer that would seem to qualify as borderline blackmail. A person who received a call from Canseco's intermediary told me Canseco covered himself so as not to make it blackmail by not making the call himself and by saying the money was for a film project (which, incidentally, never got made). Canseco passed his alleged lie detector test by answering questions about whether he called Ordonez, which he did not.
Saunooke said by phone, "I'm Jose's representative, and if I didn't call, then no one called. I know for a fact that [Jose] has received no money from no individual, no representative and no entity for keeping anyone out or putting anyone in the book.'' (Saunooke's a great lawyer and he knows there's a difference between asking and receiving.) Ordonez didn't pay, and makes a cameo in Vindicated for allegedly also receiving one of Canseco's special injections.
2. Canseco filed a sworn affidavit to the House Oversight Committee that is almost certainly false. In it, Canseco swears that Clemens wasn't at the infamous party at Canseco's Miami house that Brian McNamee said Clemens was at . Canseco even points out reasons why he is sure Clemens wasn't there.
In the book, Canseco has an entire supposed conversation with Clemens about Clemens not making the party. But interestingly, Canseco didn't subject himself to the lie detector on the question of Clemens and the party. Since he filed a sworn affidavit on that very subject, wouldn't that have been a natural subject to question ?
Saunooke explained that Canseco only wrote in the affidavit that Clemens wasn't there "to the best of my knowledge,'' adding, "Now, if something comes up later that refreshes his memory, that might change things.'' Well, how about when Clemens and Clemens' own lawyer eventually admitted that McNamee may have been telling the truth after all about Clemens being at the party?
3. Canseco is now backtracking from his two-book suggestion that Clemens probably was on the juice, telling Nightline that "no,'' he now doesn't believe Clemens juiced . So in other words, while he mentioned Clemens in the first book as a possible juicer (even before McNamee admitted administering steroids to Clemens) and he ruminates for many pages in this second book about whether Clemens is a juicer, he is already changing what he wrote about Clemens with the book just hot off the presses.
Saunooke said there are no regrets. Then, stealing a famous hearing-room phrase from McNamee, Saunooke added, "It is what it is.''
And, I'm afraid, Canseco is who he is. Which is anything but vindicated. |
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| Rammstein Musik |
| hopefully very few people will buy his book and he'll then go away for good. what a fucking piece of shit. |
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| Maximus06 |
| he's full of shit....how can you take this guy seriously when he won't put your name in if you invest in his movie project bullshit |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Then, why wont arod then come out and call canseco a liar?
Arod is doing exactly what Canseco said he would do. That speaks volumes! |
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| DestroVega |
| And Canseco is hanging up on almost every phone interview when he can't come up with some more lies... that also speaks volumes. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Wrong, it means the guy is a hothead, not a liar. There is a huge difference!
So why wont arod call the guy a liar....Why?
If he is lying, come out and say he is lying. |
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| Pussah2 |
| how do you explain his call that roger clemens is innocent of taking steroids. WHo is more reliable mcnamee, pettite or jose canseco |
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| DestroVega |
I don't know why A-Rod won't call him a liar... why is it up to everyone to defend any and every accusation put on them?
If A-Rod hits another 58 homers this year, is he doing drugs to do it?...
I will always think A-Rod is clean unless I see some real evidence, not just Jose Canseco says he introduced him to a dealer and oh, I didn't put that little note in my first book... oops! I forgot at the time...
You even admitted his story has holes. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
QUOTE=Pussah2]how do you explain his call that roger clemens is innocent of taking steroids. WHo is more reliable mcnamee, pettite or jose canseco [/QUOTE]
Show me where Canseco said he was innocent of doing steroids. I would love to see it.
He said that he never saw Clemens use steroids, or discuss them or anything to do with them. Thats it. Again, a big difference from what you are claiming. He didnt know anything about it, not that it never happened!!!
Here is the quote:
"His family knew my family. His wife and my wife at the time talked a lot and we shared private information, and, yeah, we kind of jested and joked about using steroids, but I never injected him, never supplied him, never saw anyone give him steroids and he never tried to acquire steroids from me ."
That has nothing to do with the McNamee and Pettite situation. Learn to read pussy and take arods dick out of your ass. Your a joke as a baseball fan |
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| DestroVega |
Yeah Canseco said "I think Clemens did them, but I have no proof..."
What, in essence, he really should be saying about A-Rod too, because he says he has no proof, but says he knows he did them... it's weird. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
Yeah Canseco said "I think Clemens did them, but I have no proof..."
What, in essence, he really should be saying about A-Rod too, because he says he has no proof, but says he knows he did them... it's weird. |
He does have proof. He has Max.
As soon as arod calls him a liar, he will present us Max. Why do you think arod is not calling him a liar and denying the story?
Why do you also think MLB security cornered Canseco this week...They want to talk to Max. He is possibly another one of the dealers.
Remember... Only the NY guys were busted, there were many more suppliers. Who says Max is not one of those guys and supplied guys like arod in other parts of the country... |
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