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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
If any of you guys are in a keeper league or need a sleeper look out for Max Scherzer. Diamondbacks just called him up and he will end up in the rotation eventually. Guy had sick numbers in Triple AAA this year.
23 innings 12 hits 3 earned runs 3 walks and 38 strikeouts. |
Scherzer major league debut last night:
4 1/3 innings 0 hits 0 walks and 7 strikeouts. I hope somebody listened to me and picked him up because he is probably gone by now. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Scherzer major league debut last night:
4 1/3 innings 0 hits 0 walks and 7 strikeouts. I hope somebody listened to me and picked him up because he is probably gone by now. |
I put a claim on him but don't know if I'll get him. He clears waivers tomorrow. If a lower-placed team also put in the claim then I'm out of luck. Do you think he'll be a starter? If they don't make him a starter he'll have no value in my league. Middle relievers aren't worth a roster spot. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| He will take Gonzalez's spot in the rotation soon. Webb, Haren, and Scherzer will be a dominate 1-2-3 combo for years. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Utley will win the MVP this year and being a 2B he is more valuable than most players so I wouldn't deal him. Zambrano is a top 10 pitcher, but Penny and Wang aren't. If you’re going to deal Utley you better get a starter like Webb or Peavy. |
Yeah, I dangled Utley as trade bait to my league for a top-10 SP and the only team to respond thus far has Wang, Penny, and Zambrano as their best SPs. Not the best choice, I know, but I would move Utley for the right deal. Last year I won my league using a platoon of guys at 2B so it can be done. Of course I also had Peavy, Webb, and Wang as my top 3 last year. I don't have that luxury this season. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Do you guys think this trade is fair?
I am not in it, just a trade that went down in my league. I dont know who got the better part.
Robinson Cano, Andre Ethier, Roy Oswalt and Randy Johnson
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Torii Hunter, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Do you guys think this trade is fair?
I am not in it, just a trade that went down in my league. I dont know who got the better part.
Robinson Cano, Andre Ethier, Roy Oswalt and Randy Johnson
for
Torii Hunter, Hideki Matsui and Andy Pettitte |
It seems pretty even to me although I think the guy getting Oswalt got the better of it, providing Oswalt performs as he is capable. |
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| MikeyJJ |
In an AL-only league and ended up with 4 catchers (Mauer, I-Rod, Napoli and Veritek) but no First Baseman.
Was offered Daric Barton for Pudge...pull the trigger on it? |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by MikeyJJ
In an AL-only league and ended up with 4 catchers (Mauer, I-Rod, Napoli and Veritek) but no First Baseman.
Was offered Daric Barton for Pudge...pull the trigger on it? |
You should try to trade for Youkilis. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
He will take Gonzalez's spot in the rotation soon. Webb, Haren, and Scherzer will be a dominate 1-2-3 combo for years. |
I got Scherzer. Another guy in the league who also put in a claim on him is already bitching that he didn't get him but he has a better record than I do so I got the WW priority. I hope this guy turns out to be good. I already have one supposed "phenom" on my roster (Cueto) who is laying eggs for me. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| I would pick your spots when to start Scherzer. Like I wouldn't start him in his first start vs. the Phillies. |
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| MrFlubbins |
| What's the consensus regarding trading a starter for a closer? My closers are pretty week, a guy in a my league wants to trade me Brandon Lyon for Roy Oswalt. This is a very shallow mixed league, my rotation is pretty strong without Roy Oswalt, I have Carlos Zambrano, Felix Hernandez, Roy Halladay, Ben Shits, Adam Wainwright, Cliff Lee and Dice K. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Oswalt for Lyon is a horrible deal. Closers give you one stat in saves. Alot of injuries and closers losing their jobs. You can find a closer on the waiver wire each week if you check every day. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
What's the consensus regarding trading a starter for a closer? My closers are pretty week, a guy in a my league wants to trade me Brandon Lyon for Roy Oswalt. This is a very shallow mixed league, my rotation is pretty strong without Roy Oswalt, I have Carlos Zambrano, Felix Hernandez, Roy Halladay, Ben Shits, Adam Wainwright, Cliff Lee and Dice K. |
In my league a consistent closer has about equal value with a quality starting pitcher. We get 10 points per win and per save so a closer who gets you 2-3 saves in a week can be as valuable as a SP, who might get you 30 points for a good outing.
You certainly have plenty of quality starting pitching so if you're really hurting at closer then the deal is probably OK for you. One thing to note though is that Lyon may not be totally secure as the closer even though he's been performing pretty well lately. It's thought that Tony Pena will be given the closer role if Lyon stumbles. You might want to try to trade for a closer who is more secure in their job. Sherrill on Baltimore has been lights out thus far but is still somewhat unheralded. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Oswalt for Lyon is a horrible deal. Closers give you one stat in saves. Alot of injuries and closers losing their jobs. You can find a closer on the waiver wire each week if you check every day. |
It really depends on how the scoring is in your league. As I said, in my league a closer can have similar value as a quality SP. I'll update that statement to say that a quality closer is probably not equal to a top-10 SP but probably equivalent to an SP ranked in the 11-20 range. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
I would pick your spots when to start Scherzer. Like I wouldn't start him in his first start vs. the Phillies. |
It will depend on what my SP options are next week. Sometimes these phenoms do quite well in their debut because they're unknown to opposing teams. After a few starts the opposing hitters have a better idea what to expect and they aren't as successful (ala J Cueto). So I think there is some logic in using Scherzer right away. Is that game at Philly? That would make it a tougher start for him. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| It's easier to find saves with a closer than a Top 15 starter. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
It will depend on what my SP options are next week. Sometimes these phenoms do quite well in their debut because they're unknown to opposing teams. After a few starts the opposing hitters have a better idea what to expect and they aren't as successful (ala J Cueto). So I think there is some logic in using Scherzer right away. Is that game at Philly? That would make it a tougher start for him. |
Game is in Arizona which is a great hitters park too. He might have a good start, but he needs to show me more than one relief appearance for me to start him against Utley, Howard, and Burrell. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
It's easier to find saves with a closer than a Top 15 starter. |
It depends on the depth of your league. I'm in a 10-team league and there are zero closers available on the waiver wire right now. Of course there may be some future closers on there but you don't know that until somebody goes down or loses their job.
There are also no top SPs on my league's waiver wire either but there are plenty of SPs you can pick up for spot starts when there are favorable matchups.
Yes, a top-15 SP is generally more valuable than a top closer but, at least in my league, that difference is minimal if you have a closer who is racking up the saves week in and week out. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Game is in Arizona which is a great hitters park too. He might have a good start, but he needs to show me more than one relief appearance for me to start him against Utley, Howard, and Burrell. |
I might go with Scherzer at home. I don't think it's a bad play. Howard sucks right now. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| I have the #1 waiver spot...Is it worth Scherzer? |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I have the #1 waiver spot...Is it worth Scherzer? |
If you got a roster spot you can spare then go for it. He's a rookie so you never know how he'll really perform but it appears he's got potential to be dominant. And the D-Backs are a good team so that'll certainly help his chances. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
I can spare the roster spot, 100%.
It just makes me so nervous to give up my #1 spot in April and roll dice. I am fucking torn! |
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| woogayo |
| i need a 3b since arod is on the dl. the only decent people available are crede and beltre. i picked up rolen instead because i think he is still off the radar and coming off the dl recently. good choice, bad choice, opinions? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Give Rolen a few games and see what happens, you do not have a lot to lose.
If not I would go to Crede then Beltre |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Ok, I was offered what I think is a massive fair trade. What do you guys think?
I trade away Ryan Howard and Jake Peavy for Carlos Pena and BJ Upton.
Thoughts.......... |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Ok, I was offered what I think is a massive fair trade. What do you guys think?
I trade away Ryan Howard and Jake Peavy for Carlos Pena and BJ Upton.
Thoughts.......... |
Bad trade in my opinion. Only a matter of time before Howard starts to hit and it's not like Pena is hitting well this season. Peavy is a Top 5 pitcher and Upton is a good player, but he isn't worth Peavy in my opinion. You can get a better deal. What are you looking for a 2b?
Probably too late on the Scherzer issue, but he is still on waivers I would use the #1 claim on him. Not like any other players are coming up that will give you his type of potential unless somebody drops someone. If you missed out on Scherzer look out for Clayton Kershaw SP for the Dodgers. He is in Double AA right now, but eventually will start for the Dodgers if someone gets hurt or by the All-Star break. Kid has one of the best curveballs I have seen. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Bad trade in my opinion. Only a matter of time before Howard starts to hit and it's not like Pena is hitting well this season. Peavy is a Top 5 pitcher and Upton is a good player, but he isn't worth Peavy in my opinion. You can get a better deal. What are you looking for a 2b?
Probably too late on the Scherzer issue, but he is still on waivers I would use the #1 claim on him. Not like any other players are coming up that will give you his type of potential unless somebody drops someone. If you missed out on Scherzer look out for Clayton Kershaw SP for the Dodgers. He is in Double AA right now, but eventually will start for the Dodgers if someone gets hurt or by the All-Star break. Kid has one of the best curveballs I have seen. |
Thanks bro! I am not really looking for anything. The guy who offered me the trade obviously needs a pitcher. I could use a big time outfield hitting bat, Upton is the best player on his squad. Your right about Pena also.
Remind me about Kershaw when he is getting closer. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Upton gives you steals in the outfield though only about 25 and his only real value is he qualifies for 2b so unless you have a good 2b no reason to trade for Upton. You can get a Vlad, Manny, Carlos Lee, or Lance Berkman type of player for Peavy if you need a OF. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| I have Hudson playing 2b for me.... You are right, I am going to demand more. |
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| stonecoldcdogg |
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
i need a 3b since arod is on the dl. the only decent people available are crede and beltre. i picked up rolen instead because i think he is still off the radar and coming off the dl recently. good choice, bad choice, opinions? |
Beltre has been on fire. Get him a.s.a.p. |
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| stonecoldcdogg |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Ok, I was offered what I think is a massive fair trade. What do you guys think?
I trade away Ryan Howard and Jake Peavy for Carlos Pena and BJ Upton.
Thoughts.......... |
Shitty deal. You're losing the 2nd best SP and a top 1B for a top-10 1B and top 2B/OF. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
i need a 3b since arod is on the dl. the only decent people available are crede and beltre. i picked up rolen instead because i think he is still off the radar and coming off the dl recently. good choice, bad choice, opinions? |
Rolen is finished. Good luck getting any stats with him. I'd go with Crede or Beltre over him. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Ok, I was offered what I think is a massive fair trade. What do you guys think?
I trade away Ryan Howard and Jake Peavy for Carlos Pena and BJ Upton.
Thoughts.......... |
Are you joking? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| thanks guys..I rejected that shit |
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| woogayo |
| i just swapped rolen for beltre and also picked up scherzer. he's got his first start tomorrow. |
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| MrFlubbins |
| A. Rod for Jimmy Rollins straight up. Not my deal but two guys in my fantasy league keep trying to make the trade and it keeps getting vetoed. Opinions? |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
A. Rod for Jimmy Rollins straight up. Not my deal but two guys in my fantasy league keep trying to make the trade and it keeps getting vetoed. Opinions? |
The guy getting A-Rod is probably getting the better deal but I'd let them make the trade if they really want to. Why are the other teams vetoing that one? It's not that bad. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Scherzer is a decent start tonight as the Phillies played 3 straight extra innings games and have to travel to Arizona. Just don't be surprised if he gets rocked. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Scherzer is a decent start tonight as the Phillies played 3 straight extra innings games and have to travel to Arizona. Just don't be surprised if he gets rocked. |
I'm going with Scherzer tonight hoping that he dazzles in his first start. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Phillies have roughed up some top prospects in their first big league season lately. They hit 3 HR off of Lincecum last year in his first start. I hope they do the same to Scherzer. |
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| MagicRat3139 |
| Anyone think Im nuts for trading Ryan Howard for David Ortiz? Both these guys have to bust out of their funk at some point and Im getting very tired watching Howard strike out 4 times a game. Besides, in his last 7 games Papi is hitting .400 and Howard .136 with 3rbi. I know it was a risky move, but hey, Im second to last place and Im shaking up the whole roster. Except for Lance Berkman, the only player on my team worth a shit. Thanks for any feedback |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Ortiz is the better player so I would do it. |
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| MagicRat3139 |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Ortiz is the better player so I would do it. |
trade already offered and accepted. I was just a little worried about Ortiz being out of yesterday's game with a sore knee. But he said that it was just that, a little sore and wanted to rest it some. I can't find him listed on any injury report so I guess he's good to go |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Ortiz is the DH so he doesn't have to be 100% to still hit. Hoping Howard breaks out soon, but Ortiz will end up with better numbers. |
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| woogayo |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Scherzer is a decent start tonight as the Phillies played 3 straight extra innings games and have to travel to Arizona. Just don't be surprised if he gets rocked. |
scherzer is the money line favorite, right? thought i read that this morning |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
scherzer is the money line favorite, right? thought i read that this morning |
Diamondbacks -170 vs. Moyer and the Phillies. Too high in my opinion. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| Howard will break out. If you have him(like me), dont get rid of him. You have sat thru the worse of it. The numbers are coming.......just look at history!! |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by MagicRat3139
Anyone think Im nuts for trading Ryan Howard for David Ortiz? Both these guys have to bust out of their funk at some point and Im getting very tired watching Howard strike out 4 times a game. Besides, in his last 7 games Papi is hitting .400 and Howard .136 with 3rbi. I know it was a risky move, but hey, Im second to last place and Im shaking up the whole roster. Except for Lance Berkman, the only player on my team worth a shit. Thanks for any feedback |
Not nuts at all. I'd take Ortiz over Howard even if they're both playing at their best. |
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| woogayo |
i just got offered
mark reynolds
joe saunders
justin verlander
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alex rodriguez
kosuke fokudome
it looks good, but ive got a decent pitching staff, and i want to see what comes out of fukodome. plus i cant see saunders keeping this up. and whats to think of verlander |
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| woogayo |
| i just picked up carlos quentin too. maybe i can use him as trade bait |
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| MagicRat3139 |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
Not nuts at all. I'd take Ortiz over Howard even if they're both playing at their best. |
Looks like I picked the right time to pull the trigger on this deal. Ortiz goes 2-4 with a HR and 2RBI. Even though Howard had 2rbis too I like what I saw out of big papi tonight. Now if only I can pry Escobar(braves) at SS away from another owner, that one may take some doing. |
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| MrFlubbins |
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
i just got offered
mark reynolds
joe saunders
justin verlander
for
alex rodriguez
kosuke fokudome
it looks good, but ive got a decent pitching staff, and i want to see what comes out of fukodome. plus i cant see saunders keeping this up. and whats to think of verlander |
I would not even consider that deal if it were proposed to me. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
i just got offered
mark reynolds
joe saunders
justin verlander
for
alex rodriguez
kosuke fokudome
it looks good, but ive got a decent pitching staff, and i want to see what comes out of fukodome. plus i cant see saunders keeping this up. and whats to think of verlander |
If you have decent pitching then there is no way I would do that. A-ROD will be back and probably have a great second half of the year. Saunders will likely fall back to earth and will be average at best over the course of the season. And who the fuck knows when (or if) Verlander will pull his head out of his ass?
If you're going to trade A-ROD you should be able to get a top-10 pitcher for him and neither Saunders or Verlander are close to that. Bad trade, especially if you don't really need the pitching. Oh, and Reynolds is nothing special at 3B. You can probably find someone on waivers who is putting up similar numbers. Don't sell A-ROD so low. He's a top player and you're getting a lot of mediocre shit for him in that deal. If you can't get a top-tier pitcher for A-ROD now then hold on to him and wait for him to come back and watch his value go up. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
If any of you guys are in a keeper league or need a sleeper look out for Max Scherzer. Diamondbacks just called him up and he will end up in the rotation eventually. Guy had sick numbers in Triple AAA this year.
23 innings 12 hits 3 earned runs 3 walks and 38 strikeouts. |
Nice call on Scherzer. Thanks a lot. :rolleyes: |
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| stonecoldcdogg |
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
i just got offered
mark reynolds
joe saunders
justin verlander
for
alex rodriguez
kosuke fokudome
it looks good, but ive got a decent pitching staff, and i want to see what comes out of fukodome. plus i cant see saunders keeping this up. and whats to think of verlander |
Shitty trade on your end. You're giving up the #1 pick overall for a 3B who got hot this month, saunders who will go down this season and verlander who's a good SP but not worth a-rod. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
Nice call on Scherzer. Thanks a lot. :rolleyes: |
I told you not to start him against the Phillies, but you didn't listen.
Guy needs more than 1 relief appearance to start him against the best offense in the NL. Even Moyer got 2 hits off him last night. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
I told you not to start him against the Phillies, but you didn't listen.
Guy needs more than 1 relief appearance to start him against the best offense in the NL. Even Moyer got 2 hits off him last night. |
Hahaha, I was kidding. You made the right call. Still, if Scherzer doesn't do better in his next couple of starts I'll be introducing him to the waiver wire. I can't afford to give a roster spot to a guy may need 5-6 starts to find out if he's ready to pitch in the big leagues. It's make or break, baby. This is fantasy sports!!! |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Pick your spots when to start him. He could no hit the Padres. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Pick your spots when to start him. He could no hit the Padres. |
I need instant results!!! :D |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| He would face the Cubs, Tigers, and Braves his next 3 starts all three teams I wouldn't start him against so you decide what to do. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
He would face the Cubs, Tigers, and Braves his next 3 starts all three teams I wouldn't start him against so you decide what to do. |
So you think he's worth holding on to if you can't use him in his next three starts? |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Depends what kind of league your in and what kind of pitching depth you have. If you drop him you probably won't get him back. I would keep him for at least 2 more starts. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Depends what kind of league your in and what kind of pitching depth you have. If you drop him you probably won't get him back. I would keep him for at least 2 more starts. |
Yeah, I'll definitely keep him for two more starts but if there is no sign of hope after that then I'll probably cut him lose. I can't have any dead weight on my roster in my league. |
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| woogayo |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
If you have decent pitching then there is no way I would do that. A-ROD will be back and probably have a great second half of the year. Saunders will likely fall back to earth and will be average at best over the course of the season. And who the fuck knows when (or if) Verlander will pull his head out of his ass?
If you're going to trade A-ROD you should be able to get a top-10 pitcher for him and neither Saunders or Verlander are close to that. Bad trade, especially if you don't really need the pitching. Oh, and Reynolds is nothing special at 3B. You can probably find someone on waivers who is putting up similar numbers. Don't sell A-ROD so low. He's a top player and you're getting a lot of mediocre shit for him in that deal. If you can't get a top-tier pitcher for A-ROD now then hold on to him and wait for him to come back and watch his value go up. |
i concur. i know that i will never get a fair trade offer in the league of douches that i play with |
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| Hugomarink |
| I was reading on my fantasy league website that some are speculating that Verlander may be having trouble with his shoulder even though he insists he's feeling fine. That would suck if he's playing hurt. I drafted him to be one of my aces and his performance thus far is killing me. I continue to hope for a turnaround and pray he's being honest about his shoulder. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| Glad I did not use my #1 waiver spot on Scherzer... |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Glad I did not use my #1 waiver spot on Scherzer... |
What kind of league are you in? My league's waiver wire priority is reset every week based on the standings. The team with the worst record gets the #1 waiver wire position. How do you keep the #1 waiver wire spot unless you're always in last place? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
What kind of league are you in? My league's waiver wire priority is reset every week based on the standings. The team with the worst record gets the #1 waiver wire position. How do you keep the #1 waiver wire spot unless you're always in last place? |
Head to head league.
Waiver spots are determined by the draft order. I had the #12 pick in the draft(last pick) so I get the #1 waiver spot. The person with the first pick in the draft got the #12 waiver spot. You keep that spot until you use it. After you use it, you go to #12 and everybody else moves up a spot. So I will have the #1 spot until I use it, then I will go to #12. Hope that makes sense |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Head to head league.
Waiver spots are determined by the draft order. I had the #12 pick in the draft(last pick) so I get the #1 waiver spot. The person with the first pick in the draft got the #12 waiver spot. You keep that spot until you use it. After you use it, you go to #12 and everybody else moves up a spot. So I will have the #1 spot until I use it, then I will go to #12. Hope that makes sense |
Is that a special league for retards? :D |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
Is that a special league for retards? :D |
lol, could be and I do not even know it. It is the only fantasy baseball league I have ever played in. :cool: |
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| MrFlubbins |
I am trying to get Chase Utley from one of the guys in my league. Right now the trade looks like this.
I get
Chase Utley
Brad Lidge or Jason Isringhausen
I give
Eric Byrnes
Brian Roberts
Roy Oswalt
Am I giving up too much, need help not sure of myself on this one. |
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| asiwouldsay |
| I hate Travis Hafner. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
I am trying to get Chase Utley from one of the guys in my league. Right now the trade looks like this.
I get
Chase Utley
Brad Lidge or Jason Isringhausen
I give
Eric Byrnes
Brian Roberts
Roy Oswalt
Am I giving up too much, need help not sure of myself on this one. |
I think that's a decent trade for both parties. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
I am trying to get Chase Utley from one of the guys in my league. Right now the trade looks like this.
I get
Chase Utley
Brad Lidge or Jason Isringhausen
I give
Eric Byrnes
Brian Roberts
Roy Oswalt
Am I giving up too much, need help not sure of myself on this one. |
Solid deal to me. Utley will win the MVP and Lidge right now is pitching lights out. Byrnes was a one year wonder last year and Oswalt is a good pitcher, but Utley is worth dealing him. |
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| profoundnotions |
| i picked up ervin santana and edison volquez free agent like 4 weeks ago. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by profoundnotions
i picked up ervin santana and edison volquez free agent like 4 weeks ago. |
That's awesome. I picked up Cueto after his first start instead of Volquez. That's looking like a big mistake now. |
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| profoundnotions |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
That's awesome. I picked up Cueto after his first start instead of Volquez. That's looking like a big mistake now. |
well i tried to pick up cueto and lost him. then yahoo ran a story on how volquez was going to be just as good...now i made out awesome. and santana is on fireeeeee. i also picked up verlander...if he gets on track then my rotation could be downright godly |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by profoundnotions
well i tried to pick up cueto and lost him. then yahoo ran a story on how volquez was going to be just as good...now i made out awesome. and santana is on fireeeeee. i also picked up verlander...if he gets on track then my rotation could be downright godly |
I also have Verlander and am waiting for him to get on track. |
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| profoundnotions |
innings pitched wins saves k's era whip
SP
Aaron Harang
(Cin - SP)
55.1 1 0 47 3.09 1.10
SP
Zack Greinke
(KC - SP,RP)
50.0 4 0 36 1.80 1.02
RP
Brad Lidge
(Phi - RP)
16.0 1 8 15 0.00 0.81
RP
Kevin Gregg
(Fla - RP)
16.2 3 6 12 3.24 1.38
P
Edinson Vólquez
(Cin - SP)
42.1 5 0 52 1.06 1.23
P
Ervin Santana
(LAA - SP)
49.0 6 0 38 2.02 0.88
P
Erik Bedard
(Sea - SP)
31.2 2 0 25 1.99 1.07
BN
Ben Sheets
(Mil - SP)
39.1 4 0 32 2.29 0.89
BN
Derek Lowe
(LAD - SP)
39.1 2 0 25 3.66 1.37
BN
Justin Verlander
(Det - SP)
43.0 1 0 25 6.28 1.44
seems like if everyone gets on track or keeps going the way they are this could be a deadly rotation |
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| stonecoldcdogg |
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
I am trying to get Chase Utley from one of the guys in my league. Right now the trade looks like this.
I get
Chase Utley
Brad Lidge or Jason Isringhausen
I give
Eric Byrnes
Brian Roberts
Roy Oswalt
Am I giving up too much, need help not sure of myself on this one. |
Yeah, you are. You should be able to get two of those guys for Utley. And you're getting an average closer while giving up a SP who has turned it around with 3 quality starts in a row. |
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| gator2607 |
I picked up Cliff Lee after his 1st start. So far in six starts he is 6-0 with 44.1 Innings, 39 K, 2 BB, 0.81 ERA, and 0.60 WHIP.
Who are yo guys waiting for in the free agent market? I was hoping Longoria (TB) would hit right away but it looks like he is pretty incosistent so far. |
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| woogayo |
good thing i listened to you guys when i needed a 3b.
crede is 1-17 this week. rolen is 8-18
:( |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by gator2607
I picked up Cliff Lee after his 1st start. So far in six starts he is 6-0 with 44.1 Innings, 39 K, 2 BB, 0.81 ERA, and 0.60 WHIP.
Who are yo guys waiting for in the free agent market? I was hoping Longoria (TB) would hit right away but it looks like he is pretty incosistent so far. |
That's a great pick-up. I had a shot to grab Lee off the waiver wire early on but passed. Who would have thought that fucking guy would be so dominant all of a sudden? I hate it when that happens. Fuck him. I hope his arm falls off. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
good thing i listened to you guys when i needed a 3b.
crede is 1-17 this week. rolen is 8-18
:( |
Oops! :D
What are Beltre's numbers? Wasn't he also a consideration at the time?
Seriously though, don't sweat it. Their numbers will probably even out over time. Or not. These are the risks you take in fantasy baseball. Rolen has been unproductive for so long I doubt there is anybody who would have told you to pick him up with any hope of him putting up good numbers. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by gator2607
I picked up Cliff Lee after his 1st start. So far in six starts he is 6-0 with 44.1 Innings, 39 K, 2 BB, 0.81 ERA, and 0.60 WHIP.
Who are yo guys waiting for in the free agent market? I was hoping Longoria (TB) would hit right away but it looks like he is pretty incosistent so far. |
Now is a great time to deal Lee. He will have a solid season, but he won't pitch like this all year. See if you can get a struggling starter like Oswalt, Bedard or Sabathia for him and maybe more. |
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| Apoc13 |
| has anybody mentioned isringhausen is out as the cards closer...franklin and springer are the two guys to pick up his slack...thankfully i already had franklin on a couple of my teams |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| Just picked up Franklin..Had to release Scott Shields to clear the roster spot |
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| gator2607 |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Now is a great time to deal Lee. He will have a solid season, but he won't pitch like this all year. See if you can get a struggling starter like Oswalt, Bedard or Sabathia for him and maybe more. |
Trying to deal him as we speak. There is no way he can keep this up! |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
has anybody mentioned isringhausen is out as the cards closer...franklin and springer are the two guys to pick up his slack...thankfully i already had franklin on a couple of my teams |
I didn't know that but I'm already overloaded with closers (Valverde, Lyon, Sherrill, and Gregg) so I have no use for those guys. |
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| MrFlubbins |
Another guy and myself are trying to pull off a big trade in one of my leagues.
I get:
Matt Holliday
Derek Lee
He gets:
Albert Pujols
Carlos Guillen
I thinl this is pretty even, any thoughts? |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
Another guy and myself are trying to pull off a big trade in one of my leagues.
I get:
Matt Holliday
Derek Lee
He gets:
Albert Pujols
Carlos Guillen
I thinl this is pretty even, any thoughts? |
You're getting the better deal there. The other guy must be desperate for a SS. Why else would he make that trade? |
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| gator2607 |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
You're getting the better deal there. The other guy must be desperate for a SS. Why else would he make that trade? |
I agree. I have both Lee and Holliday and wouldn't make that deal. They are tearing it up sp far this year. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
You're getting the better deal there. The other guy must be desperate for a SS. Why else would he make that trade? |
I agree. In my league, that trade would never be approved. It is so one sided, but more power to you if you can pull it off! |
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| longdongbong |
| Who needs all this advice when you're dominating the Ferrall Fantasy League....Ahem (cough cough) |
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| MagicRat3139 |
This guy just proposed the following trade. Although I do need a decent SS and an upgrade in the pitching category as far as Ks are concerned there's no way I can even consider this deal. He has Miguel Tejada as well. He would have to be included in any kind of trade for Berkman as far as SS's go.
I send:
Lance Berkman
I get:
Carlos Guillen
Arron Harang |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| I would never make that trade. Berkman is on a fucking tear. If he can stay healthy, he will put up MASSIVE numbers... |
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| MrFlubbins |
Quote: Originally posted by MagicRat3139
This guy just proposed the following trade. Although I do need a decent SS and an upgrade in the pitching category as far as Ks are concerned there's no way I can even consider this deal. He has Miguel Tejada as well. He would have to be included in any kind of trade for Berkman as far as SS's go.
I send:
Lance Berkman
I get:
Carlos Guillen
Arron Harang |
Berkman is having a massive year, no way I would trade him. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by MagicRat3139
This guy just proposed the following trade. Although I do need a decent SS and an upgrade in the pitching category as far as Ks are concerned there's no way I can even consider this deal. He has Miguel Tejada as well. He would have to be included in any kind of trade for Berkman as far as SS's go.
I send:
Lance Berkman
I get:
Carlos Guillen
Arron Harang |
Right now is a good time to deal Berkman, but you can get more than that for him. Try to get a SS like Rollins and starter like Kazmir for Berkman. |
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| Hugomarink |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Right now is a good time to deal Berkman, but you can get more than that for him. Try to get a SS like Rollins and starter like Kazmir for Berkman. |
I agree with this. There is no harm trading away a red-hot player but make sure you get top value for him. Harang? Forget it. You should be able to get an Oswalt, C. Zambrano, Hamels, and maybe even a Webb or Peavy, for Berkman. You gotta play hardball and ask for a lot when trading the most productive hitter in the game. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
I would never give up Webb or Peavy for Berkman.
Webb or Peavy are can not miss players, if they stay healthy.
There is no guarantee Berkman will continue his tear, even if he does stay healthy. Which by the way, he never does.... |
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