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Hugomarink
I'd do that deal as well. You're trading one great hitter for two really good ones. Even if Hamilton takes a nosedive in the second half you gotta expect Teixeira to start picking things up a bit.
Hugomarink
Hahahaha .... I have both Maine and Kershaw and didn't know who to start tonight so I did what I rarely do and started two opposing pitchers and hoped for a pitcher's duel. I see they're both getting bombed and that Kershaw is out in the 4th. Typical of my season this year.
KingOfAllWhites
Tough break Hugo. I was at the game, and you were done by the time the first inning ended. Maine got lit up in the first, then the Mets got 2 back in the bottom of the first before Kershaw even got an out. He is a good pitcher, with the fucking nastiest curve I have ever seen in my life, but he is a rookie and definately was not worth my #1 waiver wire pick. It is not even June 1st, I am going to have plenty of opportunities.
Hugomarink
Yeah, these rookie pitchers are always a risk. Maybe you should use your #1 pick on this Jay Bruce kid on the Reds who just got called up. He's putting up great numbers in his first week.
KingOfAllWhites
I would, but he was picked up weeks ago before he was even called up to the majors.
MrFlubbins
Late Start Fantasy League

A couple of friends and I are starting a late start league on Yahoo. SFN'rs are welcome:

League Name Wet Sawdust League
League ID 307650
Password 1of2
League Type Custom
Draft Type Live Online Draft
Unique League Name wetsawdust
Draft Time Tue Jun 10 9:00pm EDT

If you have any questions email me at ilya41@yahoo.com
KingOfAllWhites
Is R Soriano on the Braves useless now? Since Smoltz is going to get all the save situations..

Since he will not get me saves, am I better off with Acosta instead?
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Is R Soriano on the Braves useless now? Since Smoltz is going to get all the save situations..

Since he will not get me saves, am I better off with Acosta instead?



I don't know. In my league the only relief pitchers who are worth anything are closers so I don't pay attention to anybody else. If Soriano has really lost his job to Smoltz then he's worthless unless setup guys and middle relievers have value in your league.
KingOfAllWhites
none, except to lower your era and whip with hopefully 0's for an inning or so..
KingOfAllWhites
I am 0/13 right now..With 1 BB and SB
GarageRock
This dude has been absolutely SMOKING the ball since I picked him up (he was available in 3 leagues!) and doesn't look like he's slowing down anytime soon.
KingOfAllWhites
Well Smoltz is done for the year, so my boy Soriano is back to closing games for the Braves.

If Soriano is available in your league, I would grab him.
benjamin bronk
I was offered Jimmy Rollins for Peralta, Uggla and AJ Burnett in my 11 team mixed 7 by 7 roto league. Too much to give up for Rollins. I am fine with power and need stolen bases too
benjamin bronk
anybody?
KingOfAllWhites
Quote: Originally posted by benjamin bronk
I was offered Jimmy Rollins for Peralta, Uggla and AJ Burnett in my 11 team mixed 7 by 7 roto league. Too much to give up for Rollins. I am fine with power and need stolen bases too


To me it comes down to Burnett. If you need him, they you can not make the trade. If you do not need him, then I would pull the trigger.
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by benjamin bronk
anybody?



It's not a terrible trade at all although Peralta isn't a great replacement for Rollins at SS. Both Uggla and Burnett are good but if you don't like the deal then don't do it.
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
It's not a terrible trade at all although Peralta isn't a great replacement for Rollins at SS. Both Uggla and Burnett are good but if you don't like the deal then don't do it.



Oh, sorry, I got this mixed up. You're trading for Rollins. In that case, it just depends on how deep you are at pitching. If you can easily part with Burnett then it's probably worth doing.
benjamin bronk
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
Oh, sorry, I got this mixed up. You're trading for Rollins. In that case, it just depends on how deep you are at pitching. If you can easily part with Burnett then it's probably worth doing.
I have a surplus of SP and I almost dropped peralta because of his low BA so I think I'm going to do it
A.Lang=Crazy
Who is your backup 2b?
benjamin bronk
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Who is your backup 2b?
Mark Derosa
A.Lang=Crazy
I would make the deal then.
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
I would make the deal then.



I would do it.
KingOfAllWhites
Pull that trigger...... As long as Rollins is healthy you can not lose. You are also doing a great job of selling Uggla high. I think he might have a tough 2nd half.
KingOfAllWhites
What do you guys think Jay Bruce is worth.....

Would you ever trade a guy like Peavy, Sabathia or Lincescum for him?
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
What do you guys think Jay Bruce is worth.....

Would you ever trade a guy like Peavy, Sabathia or Lincescum for him?


Are you crazy?
KingOfAllWhites
lol, ok cool. What do you think he is worth right now?
KingOfAllWhites
ALC, my team is in first place and ROLLING right now! I know we are not even halfway, but my team has not even hit its full stride yet. I owe a lot of it to you. If I win any $$, I definately will owe you a steak dinner. All I can say is Soto,and Longoria....
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
lol, ok cool. What do you think he is worth right now?


Not worth much. I see him ending up with a .305 15-20 HR and SB. Not worth a top pitcher like Peavy or Sabathia. Justin Upton got off to a hot start and now is in a major slump.
KingOfAllWhites
true. J Upton was a great pick up for me last year when he come up in August. He gave me a nice little push. Thats why I am holding onto that #1 waiver wire pick. Somebody worth it will be available in end of June, July, Aug...
A.Lang=Crazy
Not really any great prospects left that could make an impact right away so you better hope someone drops a good player.
KingOfAllWhites
They will, they will. A guy will come off the DL and they will need the roster spot. With 12 teams, it always happens!!
Pimpy McPimp
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Not worth much.


Jay Bruce, not worth much, are you insane? Hits for power, average, steals bases...that fucker is a stud.

Now Kershaw, that fucker you can have!
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
Jay Bruce, not worth much, are you insane? Hits for power, average, steals bases...that fucker is a stud.

Now Kershaw, that fucker you can have!


He is a good player, but I'm not willing to give up a Peavy or Sabathia. People think he will hit like this all year. It's not Kershaw's fault the Dodgers can't hit for shit.
Pimpy McPimp
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
ALC, my team is in first place and ROLLING right now! I know we are not even halfway, but my team has not even hit its full stride yet. I owe a lot of it to you. If I win any $$, I definately will owe you a steak dinner. All I can say is Soto,and Longoria....


Why don't you just blow him...who the fuck didn't know about Longoria and Soto?
KingOfAllWhites
Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
Why don't you just blow him...who the fuck didn't know about Longoria and Soto?

:lol:
Shut the fuck up. He went on the record in my thread when I was asking for help who to draft. You might have helped also, I dont remember, I smoke weed. But if you did, you 2 were it!
Pimpy McPimp
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
He is a good player, but I'm not willing to give up a Peavy or Sabathia. People think he will hit like this all year. It's not Kershaw's fault the Dodgers can't hit for shit.


That's not what you said douche! The question was what do you think Jay Bruce is worth and your answer was "NOT VERY MUCH!"
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
That's not what you said douche! The question was what do you think Jay Bruce is worth and your answer was "NOT VERY MUCH!"


I was comparing him to the players King mentioned. People are overreacting and trying to deal for him. I saw some retard trade Howard for Bruce.
KingOfAllWhites
Dude, I looked on yahoo.... Bruce is being traded for Carl Crawford. To some people, that guy is worth alot I guess. But those morons are throwing there seasons away
A.Lang=Crazy
No their just reacting to the hype. Crawford will have better stats at every category besides maybe average, HR, and RBI though not far away.
Pimpy McPimp
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
I was comparing him to the players King mentioned. People are overreacting and trying to deal for him. I saw some retard trade Howard for Bruce.
'

That's a good trade. The less Phillies players on a fantasy roster the better ones chances are for winning the league.

KingOfAllWhites
:lol:

I agree, fuck em! :D
Pimpy McPimp
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Dude, I looked on yahoo.... Bruce is being traded for Carl Crawford. To some people, that guy is worth alot I guess. But those morons are throwing there seasons away


Bruce is the real deal...believe the hype!
A.Lang=Crazy
I guess everybody should trade Utley for Bruce then :rolleyes:
KingOfAllWhites
Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
Bruce is the real deal...believe the hype!
I do not disagree but he is a rookie. It is his first year, you can not expect those type of massive numbers. That is just not fair. But your on the record :D
Pimpy McPimp
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
I guess everybody should trade Utley for Bruce then :rolleyes:


Yes, Utley is due for another broken bone sometime soon.
A.Lang=Crazy
Give me Bruce's numbers at the end of the year Pimpy.
Pimpy McPimp
Next season we have to start a fantasy baseball league just for the guys over in the locks thread...Locks fantasy football league???
Pimpy McPimp
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Give me Bruce's numbers at the end of the year Pimpy.


I will, I just hope you're around to see them. You could be serving another ban bet suspension at that time. :D
KingOfAllWhites
Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
Next season we have to start a fantasy baseball league just for the guys over in the locks thread...Locks fantasy football league???
IN!!!!!
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
I will, I just hope you're around to see them. You could be serving another ban bet suspension at that time. :D


I want to see if you bought into the hype too or actually being realistic.
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
IN!!!!!


I don't know if your still in the club. Start making some bets.
KingOfAllWhites
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
I don't know if your still in the club. Start making some bets.


I will be back in the fall. Come on, dont I get grandfather'd in or something.....
Pimpy McPimp
KOAW's is betting Big Brown in the Belmont, so he's still in the mix. :D
KingOfAllWhites
Exactly! True that :cool:
benjamin bronk
By the way my trade where I got Rollins for Uggla, Peralta, and Burnett got vetoed. My team is towards the top and the other trade partner is in dead last so everyone was gay and vetoed it because they were afraid my team improved
KingOfAllWhites
Fucking Bonderman...He was my innings eater.

My league is very thin on the FA pitcher situation. I decided to pick up Zito and hope his worst pitching is behind him. Certainly the other guys on the SF staff have picked up there playing, so hopefully some rill rub off on Ziti. So I went with Zito. What do you guys think? Who would be a better option? As I said my FA SP situation is weak....
A.Lang=Crazy
Zito pitched like shit again today and he shouldn't be on any fantasy roster. I'm sure there are better pitchers out there besides him.
KingOfAllWhites
Who? throw some names out there and either I will pick them up or tell you they are not available..
A.Lang=Crazy
Sean Gallagher, Justin Masterson, Bartolo Colón, Josh Banks, Garrett Olson.
KingOfAllWhites
I can have Sean Gallagher or Garrett Olson.

Masterson, Colon, and Banks are all taken already.

Who would you recommend?

I can drop Zito and pick them up right now. None of them are even on waivers.
A.Lang=Crazy
Gallagher because he is on the better team.
KingOfAllWhites
ok ALC....You have given me good advice before so I will ride it again.

I just hope Pimpy does not come on and call me a moron for following your advice :jj:
A.Lang=Crazy
Just pick your spots when to start him as he pitches alot better at Wrigley compared to on the road.
KingOfAllWhites
Home to Atlanta on Thursday afternoon is his next outing....Well see how my team is pitching by then, but I am leaning towards letting him throw.
A.Lang=Crazy
Braves are horrible on the road so I would probably start him. Chipper is hurt too.
KingOfAllWhites
Chipper is a fag :cool:
MrFlubbins
I have never thought of moving Matt Holliday but I got an offer today that looks interesting:

I get:

Adam Dunn
Justin Upton
Troy Tulowitzki

I give:

Matt Holliday

Advice?
KingOfAllWhites
No way. Dunn is a great player, and he would be seilling him high. Tulo is a complete toss up, I know he is due to come back next month or something but still. He has no guarantees. Upton is also a good player but I do not know man. I would not do it.
A.Lang=Crazy
It depends who you have at SS and what kind of impact Tulowitzki will make when he comes back. I would probably keep Holliday as I like quality over quantity, but it isn't a bad deal.
KingOfAllWhites
I have to free up a roster spot to make room for Peavy, who is coming back Thursday.

Do I release Daniel Cabrera or Sean Gallagher on Chicago? I am leaning toward Cabrera since his team is so shitty...Thoughts?
A.Lang=Crazy
Probably Gallagher because he might not last in the rotation much longer and Cabrera has more potential.
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
I have never thought of moving Matt Holliday but I got an offer today that looks interesting:

I get:

Adam Dunn
Justin Upton
Troy Tulowitzki

I give:

Matt Holliday

Advice?



No way I would do that. Dunn gets way too many K's, Tulowitzki sucked this year and then got hurt. No telling what he'll do when he comes back. Huge risk. Upton has great potential but is not producing great numbers yet -- he's available on the waiver wire in my league. He's probably not going to do much for your team this year. Seems to me you're getting a whole lot of nothing in that deal for one of the top hitters in the league. Holliday is coming back this week, right? No way, don't make that deal. Bad trade.
benjamin bronk
I was offered Carlos Gomez and Chris Young (OF) for Vernon Wells. I am doing poorly in hits and BA and have good outfielders already. I also need SB. would you pull the trigger
benjamin bronk
anyone?
A.Lang=Crazy
No. Wells has come out on fire since he came off the DL and Young will kill your batting average. Wells can steal 10-15 bases and hit for power.
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by benjamin bronk
I was offered Carlos Gomez and Chris Young (OF) for Vernon Wells. I am doing poorly in hits and BA and have good outfielders already. I also need SB. would you pull the trigger



I wouldn't do it but that's because both Gomez and Young are available on the waiver wire in my league so I could get them for free if I wanted them. With the way the scoring works in my league, neither of those guys are all that productive. Neither is Wells for that matter. None of those guys are standout players at this point.
woogayo
ive picked up a lot of young pitching as of late, just for shits and giggles. what do you guys think of these pitchers?

gavin floyd, white sox
todd wellemeyer, st. louis
josh banks, san diego

i had homer bailey twice this season (actually drafted him) but his last two outings made me drop him for floyd, after i picked him up again after dropping scherzer.

i finally benched brad penny, and wainwright went on the dl. wang, beckett and santana are my other starters. i also have rasner and jesse litch splitting time here and there
MrFlubbins
Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
No way I would do that. Dunn gets way too many K's, Tulowitzki sucked this year and then got hurt. No telling what he'll do when he comes back. Huge risk. Upton has great potential but is not producing great numbers yet -- he's available on the waiver wire in my league. He's probably not going to do much for your team this year. Seems to me you're getting a whole lot of nothing in that deal for one of the top hitters in the league. Holliday is coming back this week, right? No way, don't make that deal. Bad trade.


I ended up not doing it, I got thrown because I saw 2 keepers in there but between the advice I got on here and some research I realized holding on to Mr. Holliday was the right thing to do.
Gindaloonatic
Just got an offer of Milton Bradley and Yunel Escobar for Dan Uggla. Any thoughts? I have howie kendrick as a backup 2B but he is injury prone, and I can't be sure that Bradley will continue on his tear either. My OF is pretty solid (Quentin,Fukodome,Alex Rios w/Soriano on the DL) Not to mention there are a few viable OF's I could pick up off the waiver wire if need be. I'm not sure if I'm being stubborn or just content with my team near the top of the heap as is.
KingOfAllWhites
This Cleveland v San Diego game is huge for me this week. The only pitcher I have left is Sabathia, the only pitcher he has left is Maddux. Both are going against eachother right now, in a h2h league.. He is up by 1 win, I am up by 1 loss, he was up by 4 k's, I am up by .6 in era and he is up by .04 in WHIP. So this game is pretty much going to influence 5 categories for us. Come on Sabathia baby, papa needs a new pair of shoes brother :D
benjamin bronk
would you trade jimmy rollins and alex gordon for jose reyes in a roto league. i have no use for gordon
KingOfAllWhites
This trade just went down in my league:

Rick Ankiel and Justin Verlander for Micah Owings and Matt Kemp

Veto or no?
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
This trade just went down in my league:

Rick Ankiel and Justin Verlander for Micah Owings and Matt Kemp

Veto or no?


Not that big of a deal. Ankiel and Kemp put up similar numbers and Verlander has pitched better lately, but Owings is on the better team. For the most part it is four players that haven't lived up to hype.
MrFlubbins
Is it me or does every league have a moron who does nothing but make bad - borderline insulting - trade offers. Here is that latest.

He gives me - Brandon Lyon

I give him - Cliff Lee

Is it me or is that a bad deal? This is the same guy who offered me Kerry Wood and Ryan Dempster for Lance Berkman.
Gindaloonatic
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
Is it me or does every league have a moron who does nothing but make bad - borderline insulting - trade offers. Here is that latest.

He gives me - Brandon Lyon

I give him - Cliff Lee

Is it me or is that a bad deal? This is the same guy who offered me Kerry Wood and Ryan Dempster for Lance Berkman.


:jj: yeah I think you're right...nothing funnier than seeing 2 guys picked up off the waiver wire and then presented in a trade for a marquee guy the next day.
KingOfAllWhites
I suffered my first loss this week in almost 2 months. I would have tied 6-6 also if not for that bullshit infield hit by Swisher in the 9th inning last night. If he makes out, we tie 6-6. He gets the hit, and I lose 7-5.
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
Bruce is the real deal...believe the hype!


.235 3 HR and 8 RBI in June. I hope nobody listened to Pimpy and traded top players for him. No wonder you got banned.
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
Is it me or does every league have a moron who does nothing but make bad - borderline insulting - trade offers. Here is that latest.

He gives me - Brandon Lyon

I give him - Cliff Lee

Is it me or is that a bad deal? This is the same guy who offered me Kerry Wood and Ryan Dempster for Lance Berkman.



Lee for Lyon = bad trade unless you're loaded at SP and desperately need a closer. Lee is cooling off a bit after his torrid start but he's still got to be considered a top starting pitcher at this point. I'd think you can get a better closer for Lee at this point. Speaking of which, it might not be a bad idea to trade Lee since his value is sky-high right now.

Wood and Dempster for Berkman isn't bad at all. Dempster has been one of the biggest surprises in the league this year. He's putting up great numbers as a starter. Who'd a thunk? And Wood is a very solid closer. If you need pitching and can afford to give up Berkman, that isn't a bad deal at all.
KingOfAllWhites
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
.235 3 HR and 8 RBI in June. I hope nobody listened to Pimpy and traded top players for him. No wonder you got banned.


Ill take Pimpy's plays over yours every day of the week when I am gambling.

But I will take your advice over Pimpy's when it comes to fantasy :D
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Ill take Pimpy's plays over yours every day of the week when I am gambling.

But I will take your advice over Pimpy's when it comes to fantasy :D


Over 30 units since June 2nd and I'm not that one that got banned twice for losing a bet.

You missed out on easy money last night with the Cubs.
KingOfAllWhites
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Over 30 units since June 2nd and I'm not that one that got banned twice for losing a bet.

You missed out on easy money last night with the Cubs.


Even a broken clock is right twice a day :D
woogayo
Quote: Originally posted by woogayo
ive picked up a lot of young pitching as of late, just for shits and giggles. what do you guys think of these pitchers?

gavin floyd, white sox
todd wellemeyer, st. louis
josh banks, san diego

i had homer bailey twice this season (actually drafted him) but his last two outings made me drop him for floyd, after i picked him up again after dropping scherzer.

i finally benched brad penny, and wainwright went on the dl. wang, beckett and santana are my other starters. i also have rasner and jesse litch splitting time here and there

your team sucks
KingOfAllWhites
:lol:
KingOfAllWhites
Gotta give props to ALC for the advice on Sean Gallagher. He is pitching well for me in my #4 spot. Under 3 ERA his past 5 starts or so
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Gotta give props to ALC for the advice on Sean Gallagher. He is pitching well for me in my #4 spot. Under 3 ERA his past 5 starts or so



Yeah, he's 2-3 in his last six starts -- a real barn burner. :rolleyes:
KingOfAllWhites
:lol:

He is a #4 starter. As long as he does not blow up my WHIP and ERA, I am satisfied.
Hugomarink
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
:lol:

He is a #4 starter. As long as he does not blow up my WHIP and ERA, I am satisfied.



:jj:

Yeah, I was kidding with the :rolleyes: comment. :D
KingOfAllWhites
Sometimes you gotta show ALC some love. If not, he gets all despressed and suicidal and shit :jj:
A.Lang=Crazy
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Sometimes you gotta show ALC some love. If not, he gets all despressed and suicidal and shit :jj:


R.A. Dickey looks like a good pick up :D
MrFlubbins
Just got an offer that I am thinking about.

I give:
Jimmy Rollins
Zack Greinke

I get:
Justin Morneau
J.D Drew
Carlos Guillen
Dan Uggla

This is a fairly shallow keeper league & I have a good rotation so I can spare Greinke. What do you think? Thanks in advance as always.

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