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KingOfAllWhites

Lets have a central thread where we can talk about fantasy baseball.

Tell us about your player you was a free agent, and is now ripping shit up.

Ask us what you think of a trade proposal.

Or anything else fantasy baseball related!

KingOfAllWhites

I picked up Nady and Nick Johnson right before the season started. They have been gems. Now I am going to try to trade them!

A.Lang=Crazy

Pick up Johnny Cueto if you haven't already though I wouldn't start him vs. top teams yet.

KingOfAllWhites

I tried to, but he was already on waivers. I have the #1 waiver spot, so I was not using it for Cuerto. However somebody else used their wire spot and picked him up, so he is out.

DestroVega

I got offered Oliver Perez for Andruw Jones and really wanted to pull the trigger...

GOTanyCOKE__

here's my team. I got worked in week 1. :rolleyes:

McCann
Morneau
Pedroia
Jeter
A-Rod
Maggs
Hunter
Soriano
Pierre
DeRosa
Youkilsis
Peralta

Verlander
Wang
Halladay
Oswalt
Penny
K-Rod
Hoffman
Borowski
T. Jones

That's my team. I like it.

Do you guys think I should keep Pierre? I really only hold him for the SB threat.

KingOfAllWhites

He looked good last week.

A.Lang=Crazy

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
I got offered Oliver Perez for Andruw Jones and really wanted to pull the trigger...

Just don't start Perez vs. the Phillies :D

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by GOTanyCOKE__
here's my team. I got worked in week 1. :rolleyes:

McCann
Morneau
Pedroia
Jeter
A-Rod
Maggs
Hunter
Soriano
Pierre
DeRosa
Youkilsis
Peralta

Verlander
Wang
Halladay
Oswalt
Penny
K-Rod
Hoffman
Borowski
T. Jones

That's my team. I like it.

Do you guys think I should keep Pierre? I really only hold him for the SB threat.

That is a pretty good squad.

Pierre is on my leagues FA list. He is really not worth the roster spot.

woogayo

russel martin (2/21), david ortiz (3/19), manny ramirez (4/19) killed me last week. then j.j. putz went down with an injury.

picked up trevor hoffman and also swapped places in my lineup, putting in fukudome, who i drafted, and benching adam dunn - who i always draft. now only if santana didnt suck. he can never beat the braves.

GOTanyCOKE__

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
That is a pretty good squad.

Pierre is on my leagues FA list. He is really not worth the roster spot.

Yeah. I'm thinking of dumping him. I need steals real bad. Had only 1 last week.

Someone just proposed a Ryan Zimmerman for A-Rod trade to me. :rolleyes:

I countered with

Pierre
T.Jones
Peralta

for

Ichrio
Peavy
Y. Escobar

:D

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by GOTanyCOKE__
Yeah. I'm thinking of dumping him. I need steals real bad. Had only 1 last week.

Someone just proposed a Ryan Zimmerman for A-Rod trade to me. :rolleyes:

I countered with

Pierre
T.Jones
Peralta

for

Ichrio
Peavy
Y. Escobar

:D

lol, great minds think alike.

Anytime somebody offers me a ludicrious one sided ofter, i counter ofter with an equally laughable ofter, but the other way this time!

Apoc13

Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
I got offered Oliver Perez for Andruw Jones and really wanted to pull the trigger...

and i told you to take it and everybody else told you not to

Apoc13

in one of my sfn leagues this week, i don't remember the deal exactly, somebody offered me dustin pedroia and a pitcher for two of my pitchers....when i responded i told them that i already had three(!) 2bs on my roster and why would i want a 4th?...i don't think there is any thought process with some offers

KingOfAllWhites

I need some desperate help.

What do you guys think of me trading away Paul Konerko for Todd Helton and Johhny Peralta?

Konerko is fucking killing me and I think is going to have a shit year. Helton is in the best condition of his life, and playing in Colorado will always put up good #'s. Peralta would be my backup since I have Michael Young to start, but I can use a backup SS.

I think I am getting a steal...thoughts??

Kayotic1

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I need some desperate help.

What do you guys think of me trading away Paul Konerko for Todd Helton and Johhny Peralta?

Konerko is fucking killing me and I think is going to have a shit year. Helton is in the best condition of his life, and playing in Colorado will always put up good #'s. Peralta would be my backup since I have Michael Young to start, but I can use a backup SS.

I think I am getting a steal...thoughts??

I would take it. Helton will have a better avg., more walks, and more doubles. Konerko may get him in HR's though. Peralta always seems to have an extremely hot streak too. If you can catch him during that he is a solid player.

Apoc13

i love helton....last year, even though he didn't hit a ton of hrs, his ops was great...and his ops over the last two years is still higher than konerkos.

stonecoldcdogg

If you can do it, I'd take it. You are giving up a better 1B but receiving another good 1B and a solid backup at SS.

KingOfAllWhites

Thanks guys, I just approved the trade!

As long as the rest of the league does not reject it, ill be in business on Saturday.

Hugomarink

I want to waive Jim Thome and his feast or famine stats. I was thinking of grabbing Aaron Hill or Mike Jacobs. I already have Morneau and Utley at 1B and 2B so whoever I get would serve as my one utility slot. Or I could pick up Victorino, who I just waived to get Edwin Jackson? My OF is kind of dicey (Sheffield, Matsui, Hawpe, Ankiel).

KingOfAllWhites

Pick up Nady if you could. Mike Jacobs is off to a great start and as long as he stays healthy, he is going to get plenty of AB's.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Pick up Nady if you could. Mike Jacobs is off to a great start and as long as he stays healthy, he is going to get plenty of AB's.

I don't like Nady. He always starts hot and then slides back into mediocrity after a few weeks. You don't like Hill? I don't know much about him but he's putting up some good numbers.

KingOfAllWhites

It is not that I dont like Hill. I just think over the coarse of the season Jacobs is going to get alot more AB's then Hill possibly. Jacobs is capable of putting up very good numbers if he stays healthy.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
It is not that I dont like Hill. I just think over the coarse of the season Jacobs is going to get alot more AB's then Hill possibly. Jacobs is capable of putting up very good numbers if he stays healthy.

So maybe I'll dump Thome for Jacobs.

A.Lang=Crazy

Keep Thome he will still end up with 30-35 HR and you can use him at the UTIL spot. No point of picking up Hill as you will rarely bench Utley and Jacobs is just off to a hot start. I would pick up Victorino again as none of your OF can steal bases.

Don’t overreact to one good week by a pitcher or hitter. By the end of the year the guys that end up with 30 and 100 will still end up there while the guys that have career 5-6 eras will end up that way too by the end of the year.

KingOfAllWhites

What do you guys think of me trading away Todd Helton and Brian Roberts for CC Sabathia and Dan Uggla?

I also have Orlando Hudson who is an above average 2nd baseman as well...Thoughts?

Pimpy McPimp

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
What do you guys think of me trading away Todd Helton and Brian Roberts for CC Sabathia and Dan Uggla?

I also have Orlando Hudson who is an above average 2nd baseman as well...Thoughts?

I think, who did you blow to get another one of your threads to be a sticky? :jj:

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by Pimpy McPimp
I think, who did you blow to get another one of your threads to be a sticky? :jj:

I sware I just realize that. I have no fucking idea how it is happening. I figured they did the locks because of its massive amount of posts, but no idea why they would sticky this. Whoever did it must be a fantasy baseball fan :D

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
I want to waive Jim Thome and his feast or famine stats. I was thinking of grabbing Aaron Hill or Mike Jacobs. I already have Morneau and Utley at 1B and 2B so whoever I get would serve as my one utility slot. Or I could pick up Victorino, who I just waived to get Edwin Jackson? My OF is kind of dicey (Sheffield, Matsui, Hawpe, Ankiel).

Bad move!!! Jim Thome is a very good hitter in a slump. Give him time. Fantasy baseball isn't won in the first month. Lasts the whole season.

stonecoldcdogg

I don't know about that. The deal sounds very good for you but CC is disturbing me this year. Just got rocked again tonight. There's something wrong with him and I hope it doesn't last throughout the year.

KingOfAllWhites

I just attempted to trade Helton and Ellsbury for CC and Street(I need a closer bad, only have Mo). I also already have Howard and N Johnson who can play first and have excess OF's. Ellsbury just sits on my bench

woogayo

cc's line tonight

Pitchers.....IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
C Sabathia 4.0 8 9 9 5 1 2 93-59 13.50

KingOfAllWhites

my league vetoed my trade...bastards!

Hugomarink

Is this Nelson Figueroa on the Mets worth picking up? He's available on my league's waiver wire. I could dump somebody like Jon Lester, Edwin Jackson, or Braden Looper for him. Any thoughts?

KingOfAllWhites

I would pick him up...He does get strikeouts as well. Then again, he might have just caught lightining in a bottle twice, which is the more likely scenario!

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
Bad move!!! Jim Thome is a very good hitter in a slump. Give him time. Fantasy baseball isn't won in the first month. Lasts the whole season.

Fuck Thome. I already have Morneau and Youkilis at 1B and in my utility slot. Thome either hits multi-homer games or goes through massive dry spells. I don't need that shit. I need consistent production with the capability for the occasional big game.

Btw, I had picked up Jacobs for Thome but just waived Jacobs for Carlos Quentin. I needed more help at OF and had no room for another 1B/utility.

I think I did make mistake though. I waived Jeff Francis (SP) for Edwin Jackson and Francis was instantly snatched up by another team. Then I see he finally pitched well last night. Oh well. I'm feeling very impatient this year and I don't think it's ever great having to rely on a Rockies pitcher to begin with. But, I'll admit that move was probably stupid.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I would pick him up...He does get strikeouts as well. Then again, he might have just caught lightining in a bottle twice, which is the more likely scenario!

I've probably snatched up too many young pitchers who had hot starts (Cueto, Eveland, E. Jackson). I'm not sure if I need another one as they can be awfully inconsistent over the long haul. I'll keep an eye on Figueroa but won't pick him up just yet. Another guy who's had a nice start who is available in my league is Wellemeyer. I don't know if he's worth picking up or not. All the STL starting pitchers seem to be doing well right now.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Keep Thome he will still end up with 30-35 HR and you can use him at the UTIL spot. No point of picking up Hill as you will rarely bench Utley and Jacobs is just off to a hot start. I would pick up Victorino again as none of your OF can steal bases.

Don’t overreact to one good week by a pitcher or hitter. By the end of the year the guys that end up with 30 and 100 will still end up there while the guys that have career 5-6 eras will end up that way too by the end of the year.

I dumped Victorino and now he's on the DL. He sucks.

Hugomarink

Another guy I'm getting ready to dump is Valverde. What a schmuck.

Hugomarink

Goddammit! What good is this thread if you have to wait 12 hours to get a response on anything?

Apoc13

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
my league vetoed my trade...bastards!

why?...that's bullshit...i hate fucking leagues like that

Apoc13

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
I dumped Victorino and now he's on the DL. He sucks.

are you using your dl spot?....pick him up and put him on the dl...then pick up another player

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
are you using your dl spot?....pick him up and put him on the dl...then pick up another player

We don't have a DL spot in my league. I dumped him before he even hit the DL because he sucked.

stonecoldcdogg

Any new questions?

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
Any new questions?

Sure. I waived Tulowitzki because he's been god awful. I replaced him with Keppinger who is still putting up pretty good numbers for a SS. Should I think about picking TT back up or will Keppinger be a productive SS over the long haul.

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
Sure. I waived Tulowitzki because he's been god awful. I replaced him with Keppinger who is still putting up pretty good numbers for a SS. Should I think about picking TT back up or will Keppinger be a productive SS over the long haul.

Wow, horrendous move!!! You dropped a top-10 shortstop for Keppinger because he's doing well now. Baseball leagues are won throughout the season, not at the beginning. So, he's in a slump. That only means he'll do better.

Tulowitzki projected before season: .288 BA, 24 HR, 99 RBI, 107 R, 13 SB
Tulowitzki currently: .185 BA, 0 HR, 6 RBI, 7 R, 1 SB

His numbers will improve and somebody else will get all of the rewards that he was supposed to do throughout the season because somebody got rid of him too early.

MrFlubbins

some questions:

1) If you have CC Sabathia what do you do with him at this point? Try and unload him for what you can get? Or bench him and see what happens?

2) I have Eric Bedard, a guy in one of my head to head leagues wants to trade me Josh Beckett for him straight up. I am inclined to do it - thoughts?

3) In another league I have Curtis Granderson, guy offered me Rick Ankiel, Ryan Zimmerman and Joakim Soria.

4) In one of my leagues they count holds as a category, I have Ryan Franklin and Rick Fuentes on my roster right now. Two guys too much? Are there other guys who get a lot of holds? Never played with that category before.

Many Thanks

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
some questions:

1) If you have CC Sabathia what do you do with him at this point? Try and unload him for what you can get? Or bench him and see what happens?

2) I have Eric Bedard, a guy in one of my head to head leagues wants to trade me Josh Beckett for him straight up. I am inclined to do it - thoughts?

3) In another league I have Curtis Granderson, guy offered me Rick Ankiel, Ryan Zimmerman and Joakim Soria.

4) In one of my leagues they count holds as a category, I have Ryan Franklin and Rick Fuentes on my roster right now. Two guys too much? Are there other guys who get a lot of holds? Never played with that category before.

Many Thanks

First, don't get rid of him just yet. Right now, he's as low a buy as you're going to get. You'll probably get shit for him. I'd bench him right now unless he's facing a good matchup. Check last years stats against the next team he's facing. If the ERA was good, start him. If not, bench him. I also found an interesting article about CC's struggles this year.

http://www.rotoauthority.com/fantas...usts/index.html

Somehow, his release point has dropped 2 1/2 inches. If he can fix that, he can go back to the guy he was last year.

Now on to Bedard. Don't trade him. He will be better throughout the season. It was the right call to DL him now and let his hip heal. He'll pitch better than Beckett because he doesn't have to face a tough AL East. He could have at least 3 starts against the Athletics this year as well as the Rangers. If he can toss in another good player, then I might take the deal.

It sounds like a good deal for you. Mind you, Curtis Granderson is a very good OF who had nice numbers last year. Ankiel is poised to get that 30 HR, 100 RBI this year. Zimmerman is a very good 3B but you don't need him unless you have a better 3B. Soria is a good sleeper closer this year and it never hurts to get another closer.

I don't like Holds leagues. Didn't do well in one last year. I'd say try to get somewhere in the middle in holds and work on getting the most points possible in the other pitching categories. If you want holds, look for very good setup guys this year if they're available.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
Wow, horrendous move!!! You dropped a top-10 shortstop for Keppinger because he's doing well now. Baseball leagues are won throughout the season, not at the beginning. So, he's in a slump. That only means he'll do better.

Tulowitzki projected before season: .288 BA, 24 HR, 99 RBI, 107 R, 13 SB
Tulowitzki currently: .185 BA, 0 HR, 6 RBI, 7 R, 1 SB

His numbers will improve and somebody else will get all of the rewards that he was supposed to do throughout the season because somebody got rid of him too early.

Tulowitzki is still floundering on my league's waiver wire. He's been there over a week an nobody has made a move at him yet. Do you think I should get him back while I can? Keppinger hasn't been bad at all.

Hugomarink

God my team sucks. These guys are killing me:

Hawpe
Matsui
Ankiel
Valverde
Johjima (but I do have McCann as my other catcher)
Sheffield
Justin Verlander
Jon Lester

asiwouldsay

noone is giving me more fits than andruw jones. I traded Rich Hill for him in June of last year and was very excited. Since then, I have been less excited. :(

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
Tulowitzki is still floundering on my league's waiver wire. He's been there over a week an nobody has made a move at him yet. Do you think I should get him back while I can? Keppinger hasn't been bad at all.

Absolutely. If he's a free agent, anybody can pick him up. Do you want to go through a season with a proven shortstop in Tulowitzki or a journeyman who's doing well right now in Keppinger?

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by asiwouldsay
noone is giving me more fits than andruw jones. I traded Rich Hill for him in June of last year and was very excited. Since then, I have been less excited. :(

Andruw Jones isn't worth a roster spot anymore. I dropped him on the only two teams I have. He has just sucked the past two years.

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
God my team sucks. These guys are killing me:

Hawpe
Matsui
Ankiel
Valverde
Johjima (but I do have McCann as my other catcher)
Sheffield
Justin Verlander
Jon Lester

All should rebound during the year. I'd wait on Hawpe and Matsui, they will rebound. Ankiel like in the previous post in this thread is poised for a 30 HR, 100 RBI season but there's concern for the BA. Valverde is struggling and I think it's the new stadium. Minute Maid Park is a hitter's park. Lidge struggled there last year but Valverde is better and will get better throughout the season. Johjima will rebound and when he does, trade him to get some other players. You already have McCann, you didn't need to get Johjima. Sheffield should be traded if you can. Just checking ESPN, he's out today and seeing a doctor on Monday about his shoulder, which spells trouble. Verlander was a top SP last year and will rebound to become one again. Lester is a good pitcher who overcame cancer to pitch well in the playoffs. He's more of a project than a man who should be on your roster. There are better pitchers out there. Check out the ERA's. Bannister, Greinke, Germano, and Cliff Lee are my recommendations for SP's out there right now.

MikeyJJ

I ended up with 4 catchers on my AL only squad. Mauer, I-Rod, Napoli and Veritek. I desperately need corner infielders.

Was thinking about going after Giambi while he is cheap...should I offer Tek or Napoli?

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by MikeyJJ
I ended up with 4 catchers on my AL only squad. Mauer, I-Rod, Napoli and Veritek. I desperately need corner infielders.

Was thinking about going after Giambi while he is cheap...should I offer Tek or Napoli?

Ouch. 4 Catchers? Must've preranked catchers. You can probably trade the other three for CI. Mauer should be kept on your team.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
Absolutely. If he's a free agent, anybody can pick him up. Do you want to go through a season with a proven shortstop in Tulowitzki or a journeyman who's doing well right now in Keppinger?

You really put a lot of stock in Tulowitzki. He's only had one good year so he's not that proven of a player. Bobby Crosby is also available in my league and he's had a great start this year. In my league, Tulowitzki averaged 2.8 points per game last year, which is pretty good for a shortstop but not great by any means. I'm not saying Keppinger is great or anything -- I only picked him up to ride him while he was hot -- but I might be more inclined to pick up Crosby over Tulowitzki if I'm going to replace Keppinger. Of course I could waive Jon Lester and pick up Tulowitzki and just hold him until he starts to pick it up a bit.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
All should rebound during the year. I'd wait on Hawpe and Matsui, they will rebound. Ankiel like in the previous post in this thread is poised for a 30 HR, 100 RBI season but there's concern for the BA. Valverde is struggling and I think it's the new stadium. Minute Maid Park is a hitter's park. Lidge struggled there last year but Valverde is better and will get better throughout the season. Johjima will rebound and when he does, trade him to get some other players. You already have McCann, you didn't need to get Johjima. Sheffield should be traded if you can. Just checking ESPN, he's out today and seeing a doctor on Monday about his shoulder, which spells trouble. Verlander was a top SP last year and will rebound to become one again. Lester is a good pitcher who overcame cancer to pitch well in the playoffs. He's more of a project than a man who should be on your roster. There are better pitchers out there. Check out the ERA's. Bannister, Greinke, Germano, and Cliff Lee are my recommendations for SP's out there right now.

I'll definitely hold on to Hawpe and Matsui. I expect they'll be fine. Ankiel is a bit of a worry though but we'll see. I picked up Carlos Quentin in case Sheffield hits the DL because of his shoulder.

Don't worry, I'm not letting Valverde go. I expect him to rebound and be OK.

I drafted Johjima because I'm in a league where you can start two catchers. I had him last year as my second catcher behind Martinez. It was a pretty good tandem (I won my league last year).

I fully expect Verlander to get his shit together and have a good year. He's too talented to keep getting rocked like he has been and there's no way I would waive him.

Bannister, Greinke, and Lee have all been picked up in my league but Germano is available. So is Danks. Who would you go with? Germano only seems like a decent option because he gets to pitch at Petco.

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
You really put a lot of stock in Tulowitzki. He's only had one good year so he's not that proven of a player. Bobby Crosby is also available in my league and he's had a great start this year. In my league, Tulowitzki averaged 2.8 points per game last year, which is pretty good for a shortstop but not great by any means. I'm not saying Keppinger is great or anything -- I only picked him up to ride him while he was hot -- but I might be more inclined to pick up Crosby over Tulowitzki if I'm going to replace Keppinger. Of course I could waive Jon Lester and pick up Tulowitzki and just hold him until he starts to pick it up a bit.

What league are you in? Trust me, Tulowitzki will turn it all around and be a top-10 SS by end of season.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
What league are you in? Trust me, Tulowitzki will turn it all around and be a top-10 SS by end of season.

It's a HTH league on Sandbox.com. Me and my buddies have been doing this league for probably 7-8 years.

stonecoldcdogg

Any new questions? Ever since this thing got stickeyed, people haven't been going to this thread.

KingOfAllWhites

I just traded Brian Roberts and Todd Helton for CC Sabathia and Huston Street

Apoc13

if you haven't made a deal yet...offer tek...he's got name recognition...but he's getting old and will be injury prone and just doesn't put up big numbers anymore....not that he ever really did

napoil has 30 dingers in 500 career abs...at least he has potential

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I just traded Brian Roberts and Todd Helton for CC Sabathia and Huston Street

Gotta like that trade. Sabathia should be just fine and back to his dominant self. I wish I had suckers in my league.

KingOfAllWhites

:lol:

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I just traded Brian Roberts and Todd Helton for CC Sabathia and Huston Street

Good deal. You gave up two players who are good for a top SP who will rebound and a RP that will have a comeback year.

stonecoldcdogg

To spice up this thread, I will be posting a list of pitchers who are good plays for Friday. This is mostly for H2H if you need to pick up a pitcher to win the week.

A.J. Burnett 2-0 1.29 ERA against Royals.
Kevin Millwood 0-2 1.98 ERA against Twins. This season: 1-2 2.53 ERA 4 of 5 quality starts.
Mark Buehrle 0-1 2.30 ERA against Orioles.

The rest of these pitchers have ERA's this season below 3.50.

Zack Greinke 4 of 4 quality starts
Yovani Gallardo 1 of 1 quality starts
Dana Eveland 3 of 4 quality starts
Andy Pettitte 3 of 4 quality starts
Nick Blackburn 3 of 4 quality starts
Randy Wolf 3 of 4 quality starts
Scott Olsen 3 of 4 quality starts
Ervin Santana 4 of 4 quality starts
Shawn Chacon 4 of 4 quality starts
Aaron Harang 4 of 5 quality starts
Hiroki Kuroda 4 of 4 quality starts
Ryan Dempster 2 of 4 quality starts
Mike Pelfrey 2 of 3 quality starts
Jair Jurrjens 3 of 4 quality starts
Odalis Perez 4 of 5 quality starts

KingOfAllWhites

I might need a pitcher on Sunday...Keep that in mind on Saturday!

stonecoldcdogg

Injury updates and other news for April 24th:

Brian Fuentes could replace Manny Corpas!
Shane Victorino should be activated soon but won't be back until Tuesday.
Derek Lowe should make his next start but be worried that he could be scratched.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
To spice up this thread, I will be posting a list of pitchers who are good plays for Friday. This is mostly for H2H if you need to pick up a pitcher to win the week.

A.J. Burnett 2-0 1.29 ERA against Royals.
Kevin Millwood 0-2 1.98 ERA against Twins. This season: 1-2 2.53 ERA 4 of 5 quality starts.
Mark Buehrle 0-1 2.30 ERA against Orioles.

The rest of these pitchers have ERA's this season below 3.50.

Zack Greinke 4 of 4 quality starts
Yovani Gallardo 1 of 1 quality starts
Dana Eveland 3 of 4 quality starts
Andy Pettitte 3 of 4 quality starts
Nick Blackburn 3 of 4 quality starts
Randy Wolf 3 of 4 quality starts
Scott Olsen 3 of 4 quality starts
Ervin Santana 4 of 4 quality starts
Shawn Chacon 4 of 4 quality starts
Aaron Harang 4 of 5 quality starts
Hiroki Kuroda 4 of 4 quality starts
Ryan Dempster 2 of 4 quality starts
Mike Pelfrey 2 of 3 quality starts
Jair Jurrjens 3 of 4 quality starts
Odalis Perez 4 of 5 quality starts

The only pitchers on that list who are still available in my league are Chacon, Pelfrey, and Odalis Perez.

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
The only pitchers on that list who are still available in my league are Chacon, Pelfrey, and Odalis Perez.

That's your call. I wouldn't take a chance on them. Chacon is facing the Cardinals, Pelfrey the Braves, and Perez is still a pitcher I won't take a chance on right now.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
That's your call. I wouldn't take a chance on them. Chacon is facing the Cardinals, Pelfrey the Braves, and Perez is still a pitcher I won't take a chance on right now.

I wouldn't pick up any of those chumps either. They all suck. What is your opinion on the following pitchers:

M. Hendrikson
J. Pineiro
A. Sonnanstine
C. Gaudin
J. Sanchez

Those are probably the best available on my league's waiver wire.

Also, I'm on the verge of dumping Rick Ankiel and Gary Sheffield. I picked up Josh Willingham and Ellsbury to start in my OF instead. If I dump Ankiel and Sheff I could pick up a couple more starting pitchers, which is where my team really needs help. My starting pitching is hurtin'!!!

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
I wouldn't pick up any of those chumps either. They all suck. What is your opinion on the following pitchers:

M. Hendrikson
J. Pineiro
A. Sonnanstine
C. Gaudin
J. Sanchez

Those are probably the best available on my league's waiver wire.

Also, I'm on the verge of dumping Rick Ankiel and Gary Sheffield. I picked up Josh Willingham and Ellsbury to start in my OF instead. If I dump Ankiel and Sheff I could pick up a couple more starting pitchers, which is where my team really needs help. My starting pitching is hurtin'!!!

First, don't give up on Sheffield. He'll rebound. He's had decent numbers in the past years and his slump doesn't mean you should drop him. Somebody else will scoop him up as fast as Speedy Gonzalez.

Second, here's the stats for those five pitchers in the past month:

Mark Hendrickson: 4-1 3.82 ERA 4 of 5 quality starts.
Joel Pineiro: 1-2 5.29 ERA 2 of 3 quality starts.
Andy Sonnanstine: 3-1 5.28 ERA 2 of 5 quality starts.
Chad Gaudin: 2-1 3.38 ERA 3 of 4 quality starts.
Jonathan Sanchez: 1-1 4.50 ERA 2 of 4 quality starts.

My order in picking up is:

Gaudin
Hendrickson
Pineiro
Sanchez
Sonnanstine

stonecoldcdogg

Here's my order of pitchers for tomorrow:

Roy Oswalt 2-0 0.60 ERA 2-3 6.00 ERA 4/4 2/5
Adam Wainwright 2-0 1.80 ERA 2-1 2.73 ERA 3/3 3/4
Tim Hudson 3-2 3.55 ERA 3-1 2.93 ERA 4/5 4/5
Brad Penny 2-0 3.49 ERA 3-2 2.67 ERA 4/5 3/5
Micah Owings 0-1 3.94 ERA 4-0 2.42 ERA 2/3 4/4
Erik Bedard 1-2 3.86 ERA 1-0 3.27 ERA 2/3 2/2
Justin Germano 2-1 3.63 ERA 0-2 5.01 ERA 2/3 3/4
John Maine 1-1 4.84 ERA 1-2 3.57 ERA 2/4 3/4
Edwin Jackson 2-1 5.64 ERA 2-2 4.63 ERA 2/4 2/4
Carlos Zambrano 2-0 3.55 ERA 3-1 2.67 ERA 1/2 4/5
Mark Hendrickson Last start in 2006 4-1 3.82 ERA 0/0 4/5
Shaun Marcum 1-0 0.00 ERA* 2-1 3.42 ERA 1/1 3/4
Kevin Correia 0-1 4.50 ERA (8 ip)* 1-3 4.21 ERA 1/1 2/4
Scott Baker Last start in 2006 2-0 3.51 ERA 0/0 3/4
John Danks 1-0 7.11 ERA* 2-1 3.04 ERA 0/1 3/4
Armando Galarraga 0-0 9.64 ERA* 2-0 1.50 ERA 0/1 2/2

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
First, don't give up on Sheffield. He'll rebound. He's had decent numbers in the past years and his slump doesn't mean you should drop him. Somebody else will scoop him up as fast as Speedy Gonzalez.

Normally I wouldn't dump Sheffield. I had him on my team last year and he did great after a slow start. But I'm worried about this shoulder problem he's dealing with. This is more than just a slump -- could be a serious injury that keeps him out for an extended period. We'll see. I'll hold him for now but if he keeps missing time then he may be dog meat.

Would you dump Ankiel at this point? He had a nice start but has been wallowing in shittiness of late.

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
Normally I wouldn't dump Sheffield. I had him on my team last year and he did great after a slow start. But I'm worried about this shoulder problem he's dealing with. This is more than just a slump -- could be a serious injury that keeps him out for an extended period. We'll see. I'll hold him for now but if he keeps missing time then he may be dog meat.

Would you dump Ankiel at this point? He had a nice start but has been wallowing in shittiness of late.

How about this Jason Werth kid on the Phillies? Hot bat right now. Worth picking up? I could dump that unproductive shitbag Brag Hawpe for Werth. Thoughts?

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
How about this Jason Werth kid on the Phillies? Hot bat right now. Worth picking up? I could dump that unproductive shitbag Brag Hawpe for Werth. Thoughts?

Yeah. Hawpe is underperforming and that makes me angry.

MagicRat3139

I was just offered this trade by another owner in my league.
I send: Ryan Howard/Jorge Posada
I get: Chipper Jones/Ivan Rodriguez

I thought about it hard but I just cant do it. Im content having Howard sit the bench till gets hot and once Posada gets back on track he's better than Rodriguez. I was lucky enough to find Mike Jacobs on the waiver wire last week so im not hurting at 1st base as I also have Justin Morneau (who's finally out of a slump himself) anyone think I should pull the trigger on it?

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by MagicRat3139
I was just offered this trade by another owner in my league.
I send: Ryan Howard/Jorge Posada
I get: Chipper Jones/Ivan Rodriguez

I thought about it hard but I just cant do it. Im content having Howard sit the bench till gets hot and once Posada gets back on track he's better than Rodriguez. I was lucky enough to find Mike Jacobs on the waiver wire last week so im not hurting at 1st base as I also have Justin Morneau (who's finally out of a slump himself) anyone think I should pull the trigger on it?

Horrible deal. There's no way you should even do that deal. Howard is an amazing 1B on a slump right now and Posada has been hurt. Both will turn it around and do well. Chipper is doing amazing too but not worth Howard and IRod is past his prime.

MagicRat3139

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
Horrible deal. There's no way you should even do that deal. Howard is an amazing 1B on a slump right now and Posada has been hurt. Both will turn it around and do well. Chipper is doing amazing too but not worth Howard and IRod is past his prime.

thanks after thinking it over I came to the same conclusion. although it was tempting to grab the hot bat that Chipper is swinging right now, Howard will definitely put up some huge numbers and Posada is just getting healthy and returning to lineup.

stonecoldcdogg

Sunday's pitchers:

John Smoltz: 3-1 3.14 against Mets 3-1 0.78 ERA this year. 6 of 7 quality starts against Mets in past two years. 4 of 4 quality starts this season.

Edinson Volquez: 3-0 1.21 ERA this year. 4 of 4 quality starts this season.

Brandon Webb: 1-2 3.18 ERA against opponent. 5-0 2.31 ERA this season. 3 of 5 quality starts against opponent. 5 of 5 quality starts this season.

Felix Hernandez: 5-0 1.22 against Oakland past 2 years. 2-0 1.67 ERA this season. 4 of 5 quality starts against Oakland. 4 of 5 quality starts this season.

Jake Peavy: 3-1 3.86 ERA against opponent past 2 years. 3-0 2.00 ERA this season. 3 of 5 quality starts against opponent. 4 of 5 quality starts this season.

Kyle Lohse: 2-0 2.54 ERA this season. 2 of 2 quality starts against Astros. 4 of 5 quality starts this season.

James Shields: 0-1 3.27 ERA against Red Sox. 2-1 3.30 ERA this season. 1 of 2 quality starts against Red Sox. 4 of 5 quality starts this season.

Chien-Ming Wang: 4-0 3.94 ERA this season. 4 of 5 quality starts this season.

Brandon Backe: 1-2 4.15 ERA this season. 4 of 5 quality starts this season.

Jeremy Guthrie: 0-2 4.18 ERA this season. 4 of 5 quality starts this season.

John Lannan: 1-2 3.42 ERA this season. 3 of 4 quality starts this season.

Nelson Figueroa: 1-1 4.05 ERA this season. 2 of 3 quality starts this season.

The rest:

Josh Beckett: 2 of 3 quality starts this season.
Livan Hernandez: 3-0 3.55 ERA this season. 3 of 5 quality starts this season.
Vicente Padilla: 3 of 5 quality starts this season.
Jered Weaver: 3 of 5 quality starts this season.

Red Deutch

I was offered this trade in one of my leagues today:

Delmon Young
Cory Hart
Dice K

for

Jimmy Rollins
Carlos Pena

I have been trying to unload Pena but trading last years MVP makes me a little nervous. But I could use help in the outfield and the addition of Dice K would give me an awesome staff. I have Carlos Guillen who is shortstop eligible. Thoughts?

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Red Deutch
I was offered this trade in one of my leagues today:

Delmon Young
Cory Hart
Dice K

for

Jimmy Rollins
Carlos Pena

I have been trying to unload Pena but trading last years MVP makes me a little nervous. But I could use help in the outfield and the addition of Dice K would give me an awesome staff. I have Carlos Guillen who is shortstop eligible. Thoughts?

No question you should reject this deal! Top picks for middle round picks. Horrible deal!!!

Hugomarink

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
No question you should reject this deal! Top picks for middle round picks. Horrible deal!!!

I don't think it's a horrible trade but I wouldn't do it unless you are truly desperate for starting pitching. Young is pretty much a throwaway at this point so you have to evaluate whether Dice-K and Hart are worth Rollins and Pena. There is a lot of risk either way. Will Rollins come back from injury and put up the great numbers of which he is capable or will he have an inconsistent and injury-plagued season? Is Dice-K really a top-10 pitcher or will he begin to hit the wall as the season progresses?

I think Pena is probably a flash-in-the-pan and will not come close to duplicating last year's numbers. Hart is pretty good but has been underwhelming thus far this season. So, it really comes down to Dice-K for Rollins. Tough call. I'd probably hold off but if you really need another starting pitcher then it might be OK for you.

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
I don't think it's a horrible trade but I wouldn't do it unless you are truly desperate for starting pitching. Young is pretty much a throwaway at this point so you have to evaluate whether Dice-K and Hart are worth Rollins and Pena. There is a lot of risk either way. Will Rollins come back from injury and put up the great numbers of which he is capable or will he have an inconsistent and injury-plagued season? Is Dice-K really a top-10 pitcher or will he begin to hit the wall as the season progresses?

I think Pena is probably a flash-in-the-pan and will not come close to duplicating last year's numbers. Hart is pretty good but has been underwhelming thus far this season. So, it really comes down to Dice-K for Rollins. Tough call. I'd probably hold off but if you really need another starting pitcher then it might be OK for you.

I disagree! Rollins is a top-10 player and Pena is a top-10 1B. Dice-K is a top-20 SP, Hart is a top-30 OF, and Young is a top-30 OF. You're giving up two top players for middle round talent. And you'll probably have to drop somebody to make the trade work.

A.Lang=Crazy

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
I disagree! Rollins is a top-10 player and Pena is a top-10 1B. Dice-K is a top-20 SP, Hart is a top-30 OF, and Young is a top-30 OF. You're giving up two top players for middle round talent. And you'll probably have to drop somebody to make the trade work.

I agree with you. Rollins is a week or two returning to the Phillies and Pena will still hit 40 HR this year. Hart is a decent player and should get 20/20, but Young hasn't shown any power this year. Dice K is pitching well, but he will start to pitch like he did last year walking alot of guys. I would keep Rollins and Pena. People react too soon to a player having one bad month and then dealing them away. All players go in slumps, but by the end of the year they end up with the numbers they usually put up each year.

A.Lang=Crazy

If any of you guys are in a keeper league or need a sleeper look out for Max Scherzer. Diamondbacks just called him up and he will end up in the rotation eventually. Guy had sick numbers in Triple AAA this year.

23 innings 12 hits 3 earned runs 3 walks and 38 strikeouts.

MrFlubbins

I have a guy in my league who makes me 2-3 trade proposals a day. It is a shallow, mixed, keeper league. Every day the trades get stupider and stupider and he harrangues me telling me how much he is giving up. Check the latest on out:

He gives me:

Travis Hafner
Alfonso Soriano
Johnny Cueto
Kerry Wood

I give him(NOT):

Albert Pujols
Félix Hernández

Am I right to tell him he is out of his mind or am I missing some hidden value here? Input is welcome, thanks in advance as always.

MrFlubbins

Ehhh, if it was Josh Beckett instead of Dice K, I might think about that one but as it is I wouldn't do it even though I am not a Carlos Pena fan.

KingOfAllWhites

Quote: Originally posted by MrFlubbins
I have a guy in my league who makes me 2-3 trade proposals a day. It is a shallow, mixed, keeper league. Every day the trades get stupider and stupider and he harrangues me telling me how much he is giving up. Check the latest on out:

He gives me:

Travis Hafner
Alfonso Soriano
Johnny Cueto
Kerry Wood

I give him(NOT):

Albert Pujols
Félix Hernández

Am I right to tell him he is out of his mind or am I missing some hidden value here? Input is welcome, thanks in advance as always.

Ok, I will play devils advocate.

Soriano is injured, and who the fuck knows how he will come back and play. This is a guy who is fucking always injured. You can never depend on him.

Johnny Cueto- A young fucking pitcher, who pitched unreal his first game that shot his value up. Nobody has any idea what this guy will be come September. He has proven though that he is beatable. He is not Webb or Peavy

Kerry Wood is a fucking closer. Mainly he is only going to count for you in one stat, saves. I understand he could eat innings and help your era, whip,etc but still dude. He is a one inning type guy.

Hafner is a great fantasy player with very few negatives, so I can not say much for that.

In your favor...

Pujols is a fucking guy that if he stays healthy, he will produce in fantasy. Even if he does not hit 45 hr's(which he obviously wont) this guy is going to walk a ton, get on base, and score runs and drive them in. He is a fucking force in that lineup and will put up numbers if in the lineup.

To be honest, I can see why the dude is offering you those 4 for 2. It sounds good and looks good on paper at first glance, but I do not think it is a good deal for you. Obviously I would need to know the rest of your team, but I would not do it..

stonecoldcdogg

See if he can change the SP. If he would give a better SP, then the deal is great for you. You would be getting a top 1B and top OF. Wood can help you with saves. Just try to change that SP and you'll come out smelling like roses!

Hugomarink

Sure, based on last year's numbers, but we're talking about this season. If Rollins is hampered by a gimpy ankle all season then he's not going to be the same player. As I said, it's a risk either way. I suppose the safe thing to do is go by previous year stats and not pull the trigger, but I'd consider it if I was really hurting at SP and had Guillen to cover at SS.

Maximus06

i just got offered bobby abreu for edwin encarnocion. should i accept? i have arod at 3rd so edwin is my utility guy

stonecoldcdogg

Quote: Originally posted by Maximus06
i just got offered bobby abreu for edwin encarnocion. should i accept? i have arod at 3rd so edwin is my utility guy

If you don't take this deal, shame on you for six weeks!

stonecoldcdogg

I will try to post tomorrow's pitchers sometime today. I'm currently in finals week and have lots of work to do.

Maximus06

Quote: Originally posted by stonecoldcdogg
If you don't take this deal, shame on you for six weeks!

its in an sfn league, did you offer it? :)

MrFlubbins

How many people here are in the SFN League?

stonecoldcdogg

Tomorrow's Starts:

Top 10 pitchers in order:

Zack Greinke
Yovani Gallardo
Carlos Zambrano
Tim Wakefield
Odalis Perez
Hiroki Kuroda
Brian Burres
Randy Wolf
Adam Eaton
Zach Duke

Hugomarink

I'm in desperate need for starting pitching and am considering moving Chase Utley to get a top-10 starter. I'm working on the following trade:

Chase Utley
Valverde or Sherrill

for

Ryan Howard
Brad Penny or C. Zambrano or Wang

Of those three pitchers, I am most interested in Zambrano or Penny but might go with Wang. I am stocked with four closers so I can definitely let either Valverde or Sherrill go. It'll hurt to lose Utley but I think I need a reliable starting pitcher if I'm going to compete in my league. I don't really have a need for Howard though as I already have Morneau at 1B and Youkilis playing in my utility spot. Howard's numbers are terrible right now and I don't know how much better he'll get.

Thoughts?

A.Lang=Crazy

Quote: Originally posted by Hugomarink
I'm in desperate need for starting pitching and am considering moving Chase Utley to get a top-10 starter. I'm working on the following trade:

Chase Utley
Valverde or Sherrill

for

Ryan Howard
Brad Penny or C. Zambrano or Wang

Of those three pitchers, I am most interested in Zambrano or Penny but might go with Wang. I am stocked with four closers so I can definitely let either Valverde or Sherrill go. It'll hurt to lose Utley but I think I need a reliable starting pitcher if I'm going to compete in my league. I don't really have a need for Howard though as I already have Morneau at 1B and Youkilis playing in my utility spot. Howard's numbers are terrible right now and I don't know how much better he'll get.

Thoughts?

Utley will win the MVP this year and being a 2B he is more valuable than most players so I wouldn't deal him. Zambrano is a top 10 pitcher, but Penny and Wang aren't. If you’re going to deal Utley you better get a starter like Webb or Peavy.

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