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| Wicked Red Sox |
Contrary to a February 2 report in the Boston Herald, former Patriots videotape assistant Matt Walsh does not have film of the Rams' Super Bowl XXXVI walkthrough.
Walsh gave the NFL eight videos of opponents' coaches from 2000-2002. The tapes show the Patriots stealing offensive and defensive signals in regular-season games against the Dolphins, Bills, Browns, and Chargers, and the Steelers in the 2002 AFC Championship. Walsh's attorney says his client never claimed to have a tape of the Rams' walkthrough and was not the "unnamed source" in the Herald's story. The NFL has not yet commented.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/s...gin&oref=slogin |
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| epsagent |
:doh:
shocker!
move on! |
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| TJGOnee |
| whats worse? HGH/Steroids or stealing signals? |
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| nuge67 |
| OH MAN, looks like little Bill will in fact get that year suspension, Pats will lose a few # 1 draft picks and some major fines, AWESOME!!! |
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| Case a Beer |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
OH MAN, looks like little Bill will in fact get that year suspension, Pats will lose a few # 1 draft picks and some major fines, AWESOME!!! |
Make sure and start a thread when all of that happens. You're a complete fool. |
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| SleepingWarrior |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
OH MAN, looks like little Bill will in fact get that year suspension, Pats will lose a few # 1 draft picks and some major fines, AWESOME!!! |
Nope, Goodell said he'd only levy more fines, suspensions and shit if the PATS had more tapes in THEIR possession that they didn't turn over or new violations were found to have occurred. The tapes show the same kind of violation they have already been penalized for so no further punishments will occur. |
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| Colonel J |
| I don't remember what the Patriots already admitted to, and the time frame they said they did it. Will these tapes fall into those admissions or might they bring new questions? |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by SleepingWarrior
Nope, Goodell said he'd only levy more fines, suspensions and shit if the PATS had more tapes in THEIR possession that they didn't turn over or new violations were found to have occurred. The tapes show the same kind of violation they have already been penalized for so no further punishments will occur. |
WRONG, go back to sleep. Goodell made it clear that Bill and the Pats swore this never happened in the past and Goodell said if he finds out otherwise, suspension, draft picks and fines will be handed out......nice try |
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| Case a Beer |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
WRONG, go back to sleep. Goodell made it clear that Bill and the Pats swore this never happened in the past and Goodell said if he finds out otherwise, suspension, draft picks and fines will be handed out......nice try |
Swore it never happened in the past?? All the taping happened in the past.
Repeat after me...the walk though tape, the walk through tape, the walk through tape. There isn't one. |
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| jobbey |
| case give it up... youll never win. hes an idiot that will never learn... god put him in a wheelchair for a reason. |
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| Marinolaw |
| haha, Case you crack me up :D |
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| harryqdangler |
Haha
| Quote: Taping the signals of opposing teams is prohibited by league rules, and the Patriots were already fined $750,000 and docked a first-round draft choice in September for taping the New York Jets. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell left open the possibility that more penalties could be levied. |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3386162 |
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| Colonel J |
| Does anyone actually know what they admitted to and were penalized for? Were these tapes included in that or could they be infractions to penalize the Patriots for? |
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| harryqdangler |
Yes:
| Quote: There were six tapes, according to Goodell -- some from the 2007 preseason and the rest from 2006. He said he had them destroyed because he was confident the Patriots had turned over all of the tapes and notes the NFL had requested in its investigation. He also said they were destroyed in order to prevent leaks to the media -- as some footage from one of the tapes was leaked shortly after the story broke. |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playo...tory?id=3227245
Quote: Originally posted by Colonel J
Does anyone actually know what they admitted to and were penalized for? Were these tapes included in that or could they be infractions to penalize the Patriots for? |
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| Case a Beer |
Quote: Originally posted by Colonel J
Does anyone actually know what they admitted to and were penalized for? Were these tapes included in that or could they be infractions to penalize the Patriots for? |
I don't think it was known to the Pats and Goodell that Walsh had any these tapes. If there were tapes of a walk through, or something else besides useless hand signals, Goodell could re issue penalties. |
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| Case a Beer |
Everything that was revealed in the story is nothing that the NFL was not already aware of.
:sleepin: |
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| harryqdangler |
Useless hand signals are part of play calling and they have tapes of 6 teams including the AFC title game that they only won by a TD. I don't think they could re-issue a penalty..they will re-issue penalties.
Quote: Originally posted by Case a Beer
I don't think it was known to the Pats and Goodell that Walsh had any these tapes. If there were tapes of a walk through, or something else besides useless hand signals, Goodell could re issue penalties. |
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| Omnipotent_1 |
| The NFL has already indicated via e-mail last night that the information provided by Matt Walsh is consistent with what they already knew... for what they already exacted penalties. There will be no more penalties. So go cry to your mommies now. |
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| kingofkings |
| pats will always be known as cheaters who cares. |
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| Valve |
Just re-title this thread to "Douche67* hangs himself"
:rofl:
No walk through tape, and nothing the Pat's didn't tell the NFL they already did. In other words, done deal pal, move on, go choke on a cock, no more fines, suspensions, etc, etc.... |
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| Valve |
I hope Bob Kraft sues the Herald and that fat fuck jelly roll report John Tomase. If only to cost them money.
Spygate is now "Fabrigate" |
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| Sluggy |
Quote: The NFL said it received a letter from Michael Levy, the lawyer for Walsh, detailing the tapes that were scheduled to arrive Thursday at the league's New York offices.
The tapes sent to the NFL show the Patriots recorded signals in regular-season games against Miami, Buffalo, Cleveland and San Diego, and against Pittsburgh in the 2002 AFC championship game.
"This is consistent with what the Patriots had admitted they had been doing, consistent with what we already knew," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told The Associated Press.
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Thats why he wanted immunity....He had nothing they didnt know about already..... |
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| elroyjonz |
| Matt Walsh has NOTHING on the Pats!!! What a fucking loser! He must be related to Nuge. |
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| Valve |
Quote: Originally posted by elroyjonz
Matt Walsh has NOTHING on the Pats!!! What a fucking loser! He must be related to Nuge. |
Maybe he is Douche67*! |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Big surprise all this build up and he doesn't have shit. Nuge looking like a retard again. |
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| Maximus06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Valve
I hope Bob Kraft sues the Herald and that fat fuck jelly roll report John Tomase. If only to cost them money.
Spygate is now "Fabrigate" |
i wouldn't go that far, he has 8 tapes from '00-'02. You claim all this hate towards the Pats from this country and it was your own paper that reported the inaccuracy ;)
with that said, it's time to move on from this shit :cool: |
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| Valve |
| He's a jelly roll eating fat fuck who should tarred and feathered old school British Army Revolutionary War style. :D |
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| stormodin |
Quote: Originally posted by elroyjonz
Matt Walsh has NOTHING on the Pats!!! What a fucking loser! He must be related to Nuge. |
matt walsh is in a wheelchair too? |
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| harryqdangler |
Sounds like a lot of old reshashed shit to me.
| Quote: One tape turned over by Walsh shows Patriots also stole offensive signals |
| Quote: Perhaps the surprise entry on the list of videotaping documents Walsh turned over to the league was tape No. 3, labeled "OFF Signals" from New England's game against the Miami Dolphins on Oct. 7, 2001. That is the only tape labeled as such. Walsh's attorney, Michael Levy, confirmed it was the lone footage in Walsh's possession of offensive coaches' signaling from the sidelines. |
| Quote: Although Walsh turned over eight tapes this week, the number of games in which he personally videotaped opposing coaches is unclear. One source told ESPN.com that it "absolutely" is not the case that the six games on the eight tapes are the only ones the Patriots taped during Walsh's tenure with the team. |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...mike&id=3387401 |
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| KMSDEMON |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
WRONG, go back to sleep. Goodell made it clear that Bill and the Pats swore this never happened in the past and Goodell said if he finds out otherwise, suspension, draft picks and fines will be handed out......nice try |
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| Beaner1827 |
| Bob Kraft Greatest Owner In NFL HISTORY! |
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| Darth Lange |
| Please let this shit be done with! The guy didn't really have anything. All teams do or have done this, that's why most teams didn't get bent out of shape about it. Wals obviously had an ax to grind and wanted his 15 mins. |
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| Case a Beer |
Quote: Originally posted by KMSDEMON
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| nuge67 |
Guess neither Walsh nor nuge are fuckheads as fat Kraft is a FUCKhead
From Day 1 of the Spygate saga in September, the controversy over New England's illicit videotaping practices has centered on the Patriots' efforts to steal their opponents' defensive signals. But the tapes delivered via FedEx to NFL headquarters in New York on Thursday morning also include evidence of an effort by New England to steal offensive signals, which would broaden the extent of the team's surveillance operation.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and staff members began viewing the eight tapes within hours of their long-awaited delivery, in anticipation of Tuesday's scheduled interview with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh. As part of an indemnification pact reached last month with the league, Walsh agreed to turn over any videotapes or related materials he had from his tenure with the team.
Perhaps the surprise entry on the list of videotaping documents Walsh turned over to the league was tape No. 3, labeled "OFF Signals" from New England's game against the Miami Dolphins on Oct. 7, 2001. That is the only tape labeled as such on a copy of the list obtained by ESPN.com. Walsh's attorney, Michael Levy, confirmed it was the lone footage in Walsh's possession of offensive coaches' signaling from the sidelines.
"[It] contains shots of Miami's offensive coaches signaling Miami's offensive players, followed by a shot from the end zone camera of Miami's offensive play, followed by a shot of Miami's offensive coaches signaling Miami's offensive players for the next play, then edited to be followed by a shot of the subsequent Miami offensive play," Levy said of the tape. "And that pattern repeats throughout the entire tape, with occasional cuts to the scoreboard."
Goodell has made repeated references to the stealing of defensive signals by New England. That is, in part, presumably because the league has allowed direct radio communication from a coach to the quarterback since the 1994 season, diminishing the need for hand signals.
Specter Seeks Cooperation
Sen. Arlen Specter warned the NFL not to rush to judgment Thursday, suggesting the league is premature in trying to put the Spygate saga to rest.
Specter, R-Pa., spoke as commissioner Roger Goodell and top league officials prepared to view videotapes turned over by former New England Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh. Specter, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, has been critical of the investigation the league conducted into the Patriots' illicit taping practices.
"I think it is very unfortunate that the NFL has already started its 'nothing new' spin before watching the tapes or finding out what Matt Walsh has to say," Specter said. "Let's see where the evidence leads."
Walsh, employed by the Patriots from 1997 to 2003, is scheduled to meet with league officials Tuesday in New York. After that session, he is to travel to Washington and sit down with Specter and his staff.
Specter formally requested the league make available to him the evidence turned over by Walsh, which consists of eight tapes dating from 2000 through 2003. But as of Thursday night he had not gotten confirmation on when, or even if, he'd get the tapes.
"As a matter of basic fair play, I got to have the time to prepare," said Specter. "It's equal access … I'm waiting for them."
Goodell, however, suggested in a letter last Friday that Specter would eventually gain access to the tapes, saying: "Once I see the material I will be in a better position to respond … [I'm] confident we'll be able to make satisfactory arrangements for you or key staff to review the material."
Specter has complained about the lack of cooperation from the NFL as his staff has attempted to delve into the matter. Very few key individuals have spoken when approached by staff members. And attorneys for the Patriots and New York Jets have advised team employees against speaking with Specter.
"I got three pages of people who refused to talk to me,'' he said.
-- Mike Fish
"We don't know [about attempts to steal offensive signals] yet because we haven't looked at the tapes," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Thursday before the league had completed its review of the new evidence. "All we have is the list supplied last night [by Walsh's attorney]. One of them is labeled 'OFF signals.' None of others are listed that way. Let us look at the tapes and we'll have more to say about that.
"The rule which the Patriots violated was the policy that prohibits use of equipment for the taping of offensive or defense signals. I know there've been references to defensive signals, which is more logical. But let us look at the tapes and verify what is on there."
Although Walsh turned over eight tapes this week, the number of games in which he personally videotaped opposing coaches is unclear. One source told ESPN.com that it "absolutely" is not the case that the six games on the eight tapes are the only instances the Patriots taped opponents during Walsh's tenure with the team.
One of the eight tapes in the package was shot by someone other than Walsh. It is a Sept. 29, 2002, game against San Diego, which was shot after Walsh was promoted from the video department. That tape captures just the coaches on the sideline, and the scoreboard before the game action is edited in.
The advancing sophistication in New England's videotaping practices apparently is also evident on the tapes, which begin with a Sept. 25, 2000, game against Miami and run through a Sept. 29, 2002, game with San Diego. It's also obvious throughout that the video shooter has one job on game day: to capture the opposing team's sideline coaches.
In one of the last tapes that Walsh shot -- the 2002 AFC Championship Game against the Pittsburgh Steelers -- the finished product includes sideline footage of the Pittsburgh coaches sending in signals, followed by a scan of the scoreboard that captures down, distance and game time, followed by two separate shots of the ensuing play, one from above the press box and the other from an end zone camera.
"The other seven tapes show the final product, which is a series of coaches' signals, followed by the play, followed by coaches' signals and then the next play -- all lined up one after another," said Levy, who represents Walsh. "So the final videotapes contain the opposing coaches' signals lined up directly with the play that was run, one after another."
Goodell is likely to quiz Walsh on these issues at their meeting scheduled for 7:30 a.m. Tuesday. Walsh is scheduled to travel to Washington, D.C., later in the day to meet with Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Specter has been critical of the NFL for destroying evidence turned over in September by New England, including six other tapes and notes from other taped games. Although those tapes only date back to the 2006 season, Aiello, the NFL spokesperson, said Thursday the notes dated to at least the 2002 season.
The notes were destroyed, and Aiello said he is uncertain whether there is any record of the games involved. He did say that Goodell previously informed Specter that details on the taping of the 2002 AFC championship, as well as three other games with Pittsburgh, were part of the notes.
Aiello said it has yet to be decided whether the Walsh tapes will be made public. But as the tapes arrived at the league office in New York, officials were relieved to find the package didn't include a long-rumored video of the St. Louis Rams' walk-through practice the day before the 2002 Super Bowl, which would have put a huge cloud over the league's marquee event.
"That is fair assumption," Aiello said of the feelings of relief in the league office. "I'd rather leave those questions and answers to the commissioner, but it's unfortunate that that had been reported, and apparently there's no substance to it." |
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| stormodin |
Quote: Originally posted by KMSDEMON
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| KMSDEMON |
Interpol says suspected pedophile caught in New Jersey
By JOHN LEICESTER – 11 hours ago
PARIS (AP) — Interpol says U.S. authorities have detained a suspected pedophile in New Jersey two days after the international police agency called for public help to catch him.
Interpol says the man was detained in Union City, N.J. The police agency on Thursday identified the suspect as Sean nuge Corliss.
Interpol says the man is suspected of sexually abusing at least three young boys from Southeast Asia. It says photos seized by police in Norway in 2006 showed the man's alleged abuse. The boys are thought to have been as young as 6 to 10 years old. |
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