Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247 K-Dog is the motherfuckin' shit.
:ps:
Go Dennis! You are a real patriot!!!!!!
Kill Van Kull
Maybe now Congress' approval rating will jump up a few points.
:D :yes: :D
BarkonCue
Illegally mispent funds to begin a war in secret, diverted funds from Afghanistan.:omfg:
John Titor
He should just fuck his hot wife and STFU !
NCMike06
:burst: :burst: :burst:
Fdubya247
The Cunts looked scared...NCDike's twat hair is on fire...
BarkonCue
Moral courage- At least one man in Congress has it.
Fdubya247
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue Moral courage- At least one man in Congress has it.
K-Dog, K-Dog, he's our man, if he can't do it,......
......no one will....
:(
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247 K-Dog, K-Dog, he's our man, if he can't do it,......
......no one will....
:(
It would be nice if Any of his spineless colleagues would stand up with him....but, sadly :mad:
Anogram
Bush directed America to war towards Iraq against the laws of the UN Charter. As president he has not followed the constitutioin which he said he would do when he was sworn in under oath.
BarkonCue
One man stands alone against injustice!
His name alone will be shown in history as the dissenting voice...Bless him.
Anogram
He is bringing up the Tillman story. Nice. They definately new about Tillman high up because he was such a potential good story. The shame.
Anogram
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by Anogram He is bringing up the Tillman story. Nice. They definately new about Tillman high up because he was such a potential good story. The shame.
Article 10 - Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch
Kucinich is using all the hearings held by congress so far and making them articles... :)
cavlou
Great time to start the impeachment process, Bush only has 6 months left.
What a waste of time and money Kuinich.
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou Great time to start the impeachment process, Bush only has 6 months left.
What a waste of time and money Kuinich.
It about the TRUTH and not if it does or doesn't pass. :rolleyes:
Anogram
It will be Bush legacy. :)
Fdubya247
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue It about the TRUTH and not if it does or doesn't pass. :rolleyes:
Also, Bush wouldn't be able to pardon with ongoing impeachment investigations, etc...
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247 Also, Bush wouldn't be able to pardon with ongoing impeachment investigations, etc...
:bigthink:
cavlou
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue It about the TRUTH and not if it does or doesn't pass. :rolleyes:
Where was the truth 4 years ago? The wack job was to busy campaigning to be president. The when he realized he had no shot in hell he decides to go back to Ohio for his congress seat which he almost lost. Now he wants to impeach a president with only months left on his term. The only TRUTH is that it is a waste of taxpayer money to start this process so late in the game.
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou Where was the truth 4 years ago? The wack job was to busy campaigning to be president. The when he realized he had no shot in hell he decides to go back to Ohio for his congress seat which he almost lost. Now he wants to impeach a president with only months left on his term. The only TRUTH is that it is a waste of taxpayer money to start this process so late in the game.
Whoa there, you sure riled up NCMike. Careful, I haven't heard from his handlers in awhile...
Anogram
Anogram
Would have been cool to have a 1st lady with a pierced tongue.
BarkonCue
Rise up, my brother!
Speak the truth aloud.
spankysxxx
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
:burst: :burst: :burst:
Here's the video, good stuff.
spankysxxx
The first 3 parts together:
BarkonCue
President has admitted kidnapping and carrying people places where security forces are known to practice torture. Not ID'd, not charged, many clearly innocent...
spankysxxx
Hey NCMIKE! Do you have anything but cartoons to speak to this? 35 articles? Is this all bullshit?
Are you going to sit there with any ethics whatsoever and defend the Bush administration?
acefree
if he didnt look so goofy, he probably would have been the president.
his ears are too big to be president.
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by acefree if he didnt look so goofy, he probably would have been the president.
his ears are too big to be president.
:(
JTProcess
He threw his support behind Obama when he dropped out too... I wonder if this is a sign of things to come?
spankysxxx
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou Where was the truth 4 years ago? The wack job was to busy campaigning to be president. The when he realized he had no shot in hell he decides to go back to Ohio for his congress seat which he almost lost. Now he wants to impeach a president with only months left on his term. The only TRUTH is that it is a waste of taxpayer money to start this process so late in the game.
Waste away. You going to talk about wasting my tax dollars after Ken Starr blew something to the
tune of $30 million dollars? We've got Halliburton in Iraq RIGHT FUCKING NOW charging us $7.50
for a can of coke and $99 to do a bag of laundry and you're going to talk about wasting tax
payers dollars?
Waste away. STRING THEM THE FUCK UP.
Fdubya247
Quote: Originally posted by spankysxxx Waste away. You going to talk about wasting my tax dollars after Ken Starr blew something to the
tune of $30 million dollars? We've got Halliburton in Iraq RIGHT FUCKING NOW charging us $7.50
for a can of coke and $99 to do a bag of laundry and you're going to talk about wasting tax
payers dollars?
Waste away. STRING THEM THE FUCK UP.
:ps:
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by spankysxxx Waste away. You going to talk about wasting my tax dollars after Ken Starr blew something to the
tune of $30 million dollars? We've got Halliburton in Iraq RIGHT FUCKING NOW charging us $7.50
for a can of coke and $99 to do a bag of laundry and you're going to talk about wasting tax
payers dollars?
Waste away. STRING THEM THE FUCK UP.
3 hours of offenses so far...this is a beautiful thing..kucinich has the heart of a lion..
zimmie
you guys get played so often it's comical......great political theatre.....Kuchinich will get as much support for this as he did from fellow members in his Presidential campaign.
How does this look to someone who has lost their job, can't make their mortgage payment, or can't afford gas?
Do you think that person would think this grandstanding is important?
Do you remember last year when Cheney was brought to the floor? The Republicans called their bluff and voted to bring it up.......the Democrats ran like rats pulling it off the floor...LMAO
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie you guys get played so often it's comical......great political theatre.....Kuchinich will get as much support for this as he did from fellow members in his Presidential campaign.
How does this look to someone who has lost their job, can't make their mortgage payment, or can't afford gas?
Do you think that person would think this grandstanding is important?
It will be interesting to see how they (Obama and McCain) respond when asked about it. No one can control this, but its the right thing to do.
Fdubya247
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie you guys get played so often it's comical......great political theatre.....Kuchinich will get as much support for this as he did from fellow members in his Presidential campaign.
What's that prove, Sheep?
You are a goose-stepping DUPE, and if you saw yourself the way I do, you'd kill yourself if you had any honor.
Lucky for you, not only do you lack any honor, but you lack the basic awareness to see the unfortunate truth about yourself.
Colin Bowell
The President is not going to be impeached. Moving on..
acefree
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue :(
hey i dont agree with it. but its the truth.
Fdubya247
Article 28: tampering with free and fair elections, the corruption of the DOJ through the abuse of appointment power...
K-Dog still going strong.
:ps:
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by Colin Bowell The President is not going to be impeached. Moving on..
morals and integrity are inconvenient things sometimes ...
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247 Article 28: tampering with free and fair elections, the corruption of the DOJ through the abuse of appointment power...
K-Dog still going strong.
:ps:
It's just amazing to hear this...
Any ONE of these is so much more important than Bill Clinton "lying under oath" about Lewinsky, it's just unbelievable. What a travesty. :mad:
zimmie
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247 What's that prove, Sheep?
You are a goose-stepping DUPE, and if you saw yourself the way I do, you'd kill yourself if you had any honor.
Lucky for you, not only do you lack any honor, but you lack the basic awareness to see the unfortunate truth about yourself.
you're living amongst the fringe of society...waking up everyday thinking somebody's out to get you, everybody is conspiring against you and your too stupid to realize nobody cares what you do or think........you're deranged...just a simple shit with a mind bordering on schizophrenia
BOO !.........
watch out....they're looking in your window.....Bush sent them !!!! Cheney ordered it!!!
Fdubya247
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie you're living amongst the fringe of society...waking up everyday thinking somebody's out to get you, everybody is conspiring against you and your too stupid to realize nobody cares what you do or think........you're deranged...just a simple shit with a mind bordering on schizophrenia
Project much, DUPED Cunt?!?!
:giggle:
spankysxxx
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie you guys get played so often it's comical......great political theatre.....Kuchinich will get as much support for this as he did from fellow members in his Presidential campaign.
How does this look to someone who has lost their job, can't make their mortgage payment, or can't afford gas?
Do you think that person would think this grandstanding is important?
Do you remember last year when Cheney was brought to the floor? The Republicans called their bluff and voted to bring it up.......the Democrats ran like rats pulling it off the floor...LMAO
My my you are a twisted fuck! This is grandstanding? You're out of your fucking mind. So this stuff
is all just made up? The person that lost their job, can't make their mortgage or can't buy gas
should be just as pissed off as I am if not MORE! Wasting tax dollars is why guys like you
describe are out of work.
Who is the one getting played here when you can sit there and defend this administration. You've
swallowed the kool-aid and now you're just a bubble headed cheerleader. Go fuck yourself.
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie you're living amongst the fringe of society...waking up everyday thinking somebody's out to get you, everybody is conspiring against you and your too stupid to realize nobody cares what you do or think........you're deranged...just a simple shit with a mind bordering on schizophrenia
BOO !.........
watch out....they're looking in your window.....Bush sent them !!!! Cheney ordered it!!!
It is now part of the record.. you think History has no value?
Jellyfishlips
That cunt Nancy Pelosi is the obstacle to this. Call her office and demand that she support Kucinich's articles of impeachment. If she doesn't do her fucking job she should resign.
DC: 202-225-4965
San Fran: 415-556-4862
Kill Van Kull
Anybody know if the 35 articles are posted in text anywhere on the 'net?
I can't find 'em...
:dontknow:
chicagoirishtim
Mainstream media isn't covering this and he'll be mocked and goofed on tomorrow, this wont go anywhere. I'm not saying it shouldn't, because it should, but this has no legs. But Dennis is a true patriot, the founding fathers have stopped rolling over if only for a few hours.
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull Anybody know if the 35 articles are posted in text anywhere on the 'net?
I can't find 'em...
:dontknow:
Congressional record.
Should be posted on Dennis' sight soon. Government records are kept for all to see and read. It's fan-damn-tastic! :D
Quote: Originally posted by spankysxxx Waste away. You going to talk about wasting my tax dollars after Ken Starr blew something to the
tune of $30 million dollars? We've got Halliburton in Iraq RIGHT FUCKING NOW charging us $7.50
for a can of coke and $99 to do a bag of laundry and you're going to talk about wasting tax
payers dollars?
Waste away. STRING THEM THE FUCK UP.
The tab for Whitewater was over 70 Million !
zimmie
Democrats should devote the rest of this Congressional term pursuing this.....there are no other concerns on the minds of Americans....
SaintJimmy
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie Democrats should devote the rest of this Congressional term pursuing this.....there are no other concerns on the minds of Americans....
I hope they devote the rest of this one and at least the first year of the next one running these criminal cocksuckers down like the filthy fucking treasonous rats that they are.
cavlou
Quote: Originally posted by chicagoirishtim Mainstream media isn't covering this and he'll be mocked and goofed on tomorrow, this wont go anywhere. I'm not saying it shouldn't, because it should, but this has no legs. But Dennis is a true patriot, the founding fathers have stopped rolling over if only for a few hours.
True patriot? He waits until the last six months of the second term to impeach the president?
How is that a true patriot? He is making a big stink now when he knows it will go NO WHERE.
Meanwhile Ohio's economy(mainly his region) is in the biggest recesion/ house crisis in the nation. Yeah, he's a true patriot.
DUDE-HERE
what a waste of time why not concentrate on something that will help the american people instead of making some lame ass emotional rant
hes leaving anyway
cavlou
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE what a waste of time why not concentrate on something that will help the american people instead of making some lame ass emotional rant
hes leaving anyway
Exactly, too little too late.
DUDE-HERE
i just called his office and asked if this was true. they said yes. i said i wanna make a comment. they said go ahead. " please let mr kucinich know what an incredible waste of time this is , hes leaving. maybe he should spend a little time on the peoples business rather than his own personal business "
i know they don't care but it made me feel better
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou True patriot? He waits until the last six months of the second term to impeach the president?
How is that a true patriot? He is making a big stink now when he knows it will go NO WHERE.
Meanwhile Ohio's economy(mainly his region) is in the biggest recesion/ house crisis in the nation. Yeah, he's a true patriot.
It's a business, and impeachment is a big downer. Is Obama Biracial? Now THAT'S HOT.
SaintJimmy
This "too little, too late" bullshit is just that - bullshit.
There is no statute of limitations on war crimes, and criminals must be brought to justice.
Otherwise, what's the fucking point of enforcing any laws?
This is a man who's lies have killed hundreds of thousands of people.
He must be made to pay, no matter how his "former supporters" feel about it.
SaintJimmy
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE i just called his office and asked if this was true. they said yes. i said i wanna make a comment. they said go ahead. " please let mr kucinich know what an incredible waste of time this is , hes leaving. maybe he should spend a little time on the peoples business rather than his own personal business "
i know they don't care but it made me feel better
speaking of wastes of fucking time.
Kill Van Kull
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE what a waste of time why not concentrate on something that will help the american people instead of making some lame ass emotional rant
hes leaving anyway
How 'bout JUSTICE for the American people? This guy has abused everything this country stands for and BTW, you were screwed in the process, your just too stupid to understand.
:p
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE i just called his office and asked if this was true. they said yes. i said i wanna make a comment. they said go ahead. " please let mr kucinich know what an incredible waste of time this is , hes leaving. maybe he should spend a little time on the peoples business rather than his own personal business "
i know they don't care but it made me feel better
DUDE-HERE
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull How 'bout JUSTICE for the American people? This guy has abused everything this country stands for and BTW, you were screwed in the process, your just too stupid to understand.
:p
I KNOW TONS OF PRESIDENTS ALWAYS GO TO JAIL
YOUR A DUMB ASS MORE INTRESTED IN EMOTIONAL BULLSHIT THAN ACTION. THIS IS NOT ACTION. THIS IS RE-ACTION
cavlou
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy This "too little, too late" bullshit is just that - bullshit.
There is no statute of limitations on war crimes, and criminals must be brought to justice.
Otherwise, what's the fucking point of enforcing any laws?
This is a man who's lies have killed hundreds of thousands of people.
He must be made to pay, no matter how his "former supporters" feel about it.
The point is where was the tin foiled hat congressman years ago. Oh that's right he was wasting time trying to become president. Once he realized he would never be elected president, he then decides to impeach Bush with six months left. I'm sure this will happen :rolleyes: . Isn't congress ready to go on summer break.
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou The point is where was the tin foiled hat congressman years ago. Oh that's right he was wasting time trying to become president. Once he realized he would never be elected president, he then decides to impeach Bush with six months left. I'm sure this will happen :rolleyes: . Isn't congress ready to go on summer break.
You should send him ALL your money. Now. And 435 dozen white roses.
SaintJimmy
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou The point is where was the tin foiled hat congressman years ago. Oh that's right he was wasting time trying to become president. Once he realized he would never be elected president, he then decides to impeach Bush with six months left. I'm sure this will happen :rolleyes: . Isn't congress ready to go on summer break.
you're right-
summer break is far more important than finding out if we have traitors running the country.
What was I thinking?
DUDE-HERE
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy you're right-
summer break is far more important than finding out if we have traitors running the country.
What was I thinking?
no, i was thinking why not come up with some sort of dental plan or eye plan for the american people. how about arguing that one the floor
Kill Van Kull
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE I KNOW TONS OF PRESIDENTS ALWAYS GO TO JAIL
YOUR A DUMB ASS MORE INTRESTED IN EMOTIONAL BULLSHIT THAN ACTION. THIS IS NOT ACTION. THIS IS RE-ACTION
If you weren't so stupid this statement could be considered anti-American -- but all things considered, it's just hysterical!
Short, fat, bald, insignificant and ugly -- no wonder you're so confused.
:D :D :D
DUDE-HERE
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull If you weren't so stupid this statement could be considered anti-American -- but all things considered, it's just hysterical!
Short, fat, bald, insignificant and ugly -- no wonder you're so confused.
:D :D :D
.
1st off i am not bald, not fat, not any of the things you just attacked me for
this is why dems will lose again. they insult people who disagree with them
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE .
1st off i am not bald, not fat, not any of the things you just attacked me for
this is why dems will lose again. they insult people who disagree with them
Is that a Joint behind your ear?
DUDE-HERE
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue Is that a Joint behind your ear?
no a ciggy
i forgot it was even there..i should take it out but fuck it
Jellyfishlips
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue Full Text of the 35 Articles of Impeachment
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE what a waste of time why not concentrate on something that will help the american people instead of making some lame ass emotional rant
hes leaving anyway
Should McCain win he's already said that he's ready to pick up where Bush left off which means
he might not be leaving. The citizens of this country have a moral obligation to see this through.
This is high crime and sets a horrible example to everyone unless it's dealt with like the country
we are supposed to be.
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by Jellyfishlips Thank you very much, BarkonCue
:hw:
Billyfromsphily
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie Democrats should devote the rest of this Congressional term pursuing this.....there are no other concerns on the minds of Americans....
Not to mention overturning all the Presidential signing orders that underminded the Congress.
DUDE-HERE
Quote: Originally posted by spankysxxx Should McCain win he's already said that he's ready to pick up where Bush left off which means
he might not be leaving. The citizens of this country have a moral obligation to see this through.
This is high crime and sets a horrible example to everyone unless it's dealt with like the country
we are supposed to be.
none of them are gonna pull out of iraq
if they say they are going to than they are liars
fastfingersfunk
i predict a book deal announcement from dennis.
acefree
none of this is important. bill getting a blowjob from a fat girl, that was important.
:rolleyes:
DUDE-HERE
Quote: Originally posted by acefree none of this is important. bill getting a blowjob from a fat girl, that was important.
:rolleyes:
depends how you look at it
him setting himself up for blackmail was not a good idea. he wanted to hide it so much that he lied to congress even though they set him up.
SaintJimmy
Possible blackmail due to consentual sex - impeachable.
Killing thousands and thousands of people by starting wars with lies - okey dokey.
fastfingersfunk
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy Possible blackmail due to consentual sex - impeachable.
Killing thousands and thousands of people by starting wars with lies - okey dokey.
what did he lie about again?
zimmie
no wonder Cleveland is so fucked up....Kuchinich...the laughing stock of American politics
BarkonCue
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie no wonder Cleveland is so fucked up....Kuchinich...the laughing stock of American politics
Anyone who would put Kucinich down for this is a fucking troll, period.
zimmie
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue Anyone who would put Kucinich down for this is a fucking troll, period.
Kuchinich is a clown...even his party considers him such
SaintJimmy
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk what did he lie about again?
Go look it up, dumbass - there's only about 1,000,000 fucking websites you could visit.
cavlou
Quote: Originally posted by BarkonCue Anyone who would put Kucinich down for this is a fucking troll, period.
Simmer down. It's not what he is doing that people are putting him down for, it is his timing. He should have done this YEARS ago, not wait until the last minute. It is easy to have the balls now that the president is on his way out anyway. Why not wait unitl 12/31/08 at 11:59 at this point?
fastfingersfunk
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy Go look it up, dumbass - there's only about 1,000,000 fucking websites you could visit.
thats what i thought, nothing.
even democrat john rockefeller, chairman of the select committee on intelligence said that everything was substantiated by intelligence community estimates.
this includes biological weapons, chemical weapons, support for terror groups other than al-qaeda and that iraq was a safe haven for people like al-zarqawi, whom was affiliated with binladen.
SaintJimmy
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou Simmer down. It's not what he is doing that people are putting him down for, it is his timing. He should have done this YEARS ago, not wait until the last minute. It is easy to have the balls now that the president is on his way out anyway. Why not wait unitl 12/31/08 at 11:59 at this point?
He's been trying to Impeach Cheney for years - gee, I just can't figure out why he wasn't able to.....hmmm...sure is a puzzler.....
Kucinich Introduces Impeachment Articles Against Cheney
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Tuesday, April 24, 2007; 6:09 PM
REP. DENNIS J. KUCINICH, D-OHIO: Thank you very much for being here.
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These words from the Declaration of Independence are instructive at this moment. Because not only whenever any form of government, but whenever any government official becomes destructive of the founding purposes, that official or those officials must be held accountable.
Because I believe the vice president's conduct of office has been destructive to the founding purposes of our nation. Today, I have introduced House Resolution 333, Articles of Impeachment Relating to Vice President Richard B. Cheney. I do so in defense of the rights of the American people to have a government that is honest and peaceful.
It became obvious to me that this vice president, who was a driving force for taking the United States into a war against Iraq under false pretenses, is once again rattling the sabers of war against Iran with the same intent to drive America into another war, again based on false pretenses.
Let me cite from the articles of impeachment that were introduced this afternoon, Article I, that Richard Cheney had purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and the Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the United States armed forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security.
That despite all evidence to the contrary, the vice president actively and systematically sought to deceive the citizens and the Congress of the United States about an alleged threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
That preceding the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the vice president was fully informed that no legitimate evidence existed of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The vice president pressured the intelligence community to change their findings to enable the deception of the citizens and the Congress of the United States.
That in this the vice president subverted the national security interests of the United States by setting the stage for the loss of more than 3,300 United States service members and the loss of 650,000 Iraqi citizens since the United States invasion; the loss of approximately $500 billion in war costs, which has increased our federal debt; the loss of military readiness within the United States armed services, through an overextension and lack of training and lack of equipment; and the loss of United States credibility in the world affairs and decades of likely blowback created by the invasion of Iraq.
That with respect to Article II, that Richard Cheney manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and the Congress of the United States about an alleged relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida in order to justify the use of United States armed forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security.
And that, despite all evidence to the contrary, the vice president actively and systematically sought to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States about an alleged relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida.
That preceding to the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the vice president was fully informed that no credible evidence existed of a working relationship between Iraq and Al Qaida, a fact articulated in several official documents.
With respect to Article III, that in his conduct while vice president of the United States, Richard Cheney openly threatened aggression against the Republic of Iran, absent any real threat to the United States, and has done so with the United States's proven capability to carry out such threats, thus undermining the national security interests of the United States.
That despite no evidence that Iran has the intention or the capability of attacking the United States, and despite the turmoil created by the United States's invasion of Iraq, the vice president has openly threatened aggression against Iran.
Furthermore, I point out in the articles that Article VI of the United States Constitution states, and I quote, "This Constitution and the laws of the United States shall be made in pursuance thereof and all treaties made or which shall be made under the authority of the United States shall be the supreme law of the land. Any provision of an international treaty ratified by the United States becomes the law of the United States."
The United States is signatory to the U.N. Charter, a treaty among the nations of the world. Article II, Section 4 of the United Nations Charter states, and I quote, "All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations."
The articles conclude by pointing out that the vice president's deception upon the citizens and the Congress of the United States that enabled the failed United States invasion of Iraq forcibly altered the rules of diplomacy so that the vice president recent belligerent actions toward Iran are destabilizing and counterproductive to the national security of the United States of America.
These articles of impeachment are not brought forth lightly. I've carefully weighed the options available to members of Congress and found this path the path that is the most important to take.
The justifications used to lead our nation to war have unquestionably been disproved. Brave soldiers and innocent civilians have lost their lives in a war the United States should never have initiated. The weight of the lies used to lead us into war has grown heavier with each death. Now is the time for Congress to examine the actions that led us into this war, just as we must work to bring the troops home. This resolution is a very serious matter, and I will urge the Committee on Judiciary to investigate and carefully consider this resolution.
At this time, I'm happy to take any of your questions.
QUESTION: Congressman, at this point do you have any other -- any fellow members support this?
KUCINICH: At this very moment, the resolution is being transmitted to members of Congress. Because this resolution is so weighty in its import, it's going to be important for members of Congress to have sufficient time to study the articles. This is unlike any other type of legislation or resolution. This is not something that you can ask anyone to make a snap judgment on. It took me a while to come to this point. And I would expect that members of Congress, given the opportunity to review these articles, will be able to come to a conclusion consistent with their own concerns and the concerns of their constituents.
QUESTION: But at this point, you stand alone, at this point?
KUCINICH: At this point, I believe that I stand with millions of Americans who have expressed concern through their state legislatures, through petitions to Congress, through contact with their members of Congress, that something has to be done to reclaim our country's goodness, to reclaim a government which the American people want to be honest, want to be just.
And so I do not stand alone. I have multitudes of people backing this.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) Chairman Conyers to look at this?
KUCINICH: I will discuss this with Chairman Conyers, now that this has been introduced, and I will ask for his consideration. And I will communicate this to all members of the House and ask them to give it the kind of thoughtful consideration that it deserves.
KUCINICH: I might point out that -- that when you read the annotations here, you will see that everything that has been said in these articles has been carefully documented. In fact, I would imagine that some of you have even reported some of the statements, although perhaps the statements have not been challenged in this way until now.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
KUCINICH: The question relates to why I'm bringing the articles of impeachment against Mr. Cheney, and not Mr. Bush. Is that it?
QUESTION: Why solely Mr. Cheney?
KUCINICH: Well, there's a practical reason here. And the practical reason is -- first of all, I want to say that each and every charge against Mr. Cheney relates to his conduct or misconduct in office.
Now, with respect to the president. I think that it's very important that we start with Mr. Cheney. Because if we were to start with the president and pursue articles of impeachment, Mr. Cheney would then become president.
It's significant and responsible to start in this way, because if the same charges would relate to the president as relate to the vice president, you would then have to go through the constitutional agony of impeaching two presidents consecutively.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
KUCINICH: Well, actually -- I'll wait until that truck goes by here.
Let me tell you the difference. The difference today is that this vice president is actively encouraging aggression against Iran. It is urgent that Congress take steps to check the abuse of power. And that's what this impeachment resolution will do.
KUCINICH: There is no comparison whatsoever -- in any way, shape or manner -- between these articles of impeachment and the articles of impeachment which were presented to the House of Representatives in 1999.
In fact, these articles of impeachment are deeply researched, will stand up in a discussion in the House and in the Senate. And I believe that they are -- that they're imperative to bring forth right now because the threat of war against Iran is very real.
And this vice president cannot be permitted to continue to violate both the U.S. Constitution and the U.N. Charter.
QUESTION: Congressman, you're running for president. Are you hoping to get the others (OFF-MIKE)?
KUCINICH: Each person has to -- each person will have to make his or her own decision.
This goes beyond partisan terms. This is being done to defend our constitutional system of government. This is being done so that all those of us who took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States can understand that this impeachment is one valid way in furtherance of the defense of our Constitution.
I don't see this as being distant from anyone, in any capacity in our government. Everyone must reflect on this.
Years from now, people will ask, "Why didn't the United States government respond when they saw this threat to our democracy? Why didn't people inside the government respond?" if this doesn't move forward.
And so this really isn't so much, I might add, about the vice president as it is about who we are as a people. What is it that we stand for? What kind of government do the people of the United States expect and deserve?
KUCINICH: It's not appropriate for the government to lie to people. It is wrong for government officials -- you know, the vice president, in this case -- to take this nation into war based on lies.
And so, again, this becomes a question of who we are as a people. And so this resolution 333, articles of impeachment against the vice president, will let future generations know that no one is above the law of this country and that Congresses have the specific responsibility to provide a check to administrative abuse of power. That's the way the framers set this government up.
QUESTION: Congressman, Speaker Pelosi has said on more than one occasion she's not interested in impeachment.
Have you had conversations with her on this, or some exchange, in your mind...
KUCINICH: No, I have not discussed this with Speaker Pelosi.
I want to stress that this is not a partisan action at all. I have not confided in anyone in the leadership of my party, because I take this action beyond partisanship, beyond party, as an obligation and commitment to my nation and my loyalty to America and my willingness to say, "Stop the lies. Stop the lying. Stop the dying that's occurring in Iraq over lies."
It's imperative that America stand for the truth. It said in the Bible, "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." Well, let then these articles of impeachment help set our nation free from the lies that have enveloped our governmental process, the lies that are trapping us still in a war in Iraq, the lies that could take us into a war against Iran.
This is about the truth.
QUESTION: Congressman, it's been said by some pundits that you're just introducing these articles to gain publicity for your presidential campaign.
What do you make of those allegations? And do you think this is going to help you out in your race for the presidency?
KUCINICH: These articles are about the conduct of the vice president of the United States, that he deceived the people of the United States to take this country into a war, that he continues to exhibit a pattern of conduct that could take this country into another war based on false pretenses. That's what this is about.
KUCINICH: And I believe that the people of this country are demanding that someone stand up and anyone has been free to do this. Anyone in the House of Representatives could take similar action if they so choose, or could take action against the vice president or the president.
QUESTION: Pelosi says it's not going anywhere.
(CROSSTALK)
KUCINICH: Have you talked to her today?
QUESTION: Yes, I did.
KUCINICH: Then I would say I have not talked to her. And as much as I admire the speaker, as much as I voted to support her, I feel that it's my obligation as a member of Congress to introduce these articles of impeachment. And I believe the American people will be the final arbiters as to whether or not these articles should go forward.
QUESTION: Just to follow up, when you say the vice president led us into war, wouldn't that be President Bush? Isn't Cheney working for Bush? (inaudible)
KUCINICH: Well, let's go into Article I. "Mr. Cheney: 'We know they have biological and chemical weapons.'" Said this in a press conference on March 17th, 2002. "We know they're pursuing nuclear weapons." He said this in a press briefing on March 19th, 2002. "He is pursuing, activity pursuing nuclear weapons at this time." He said this on "CNN Late Edition," March 24th. "We know he's got chemical and biological, and we know he's working on nuclear."
"Meet the Press," May 19th: "But we know Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons." "There is no doubt he's amassing them against our friends, against our allies and against us." August 26th, 2002.
On and on and on. "He has in fact activity and aggressively seeking to acquire nuclear weapons." September 8th, 2002, "Meet the Press."
"He has in fact reconstituted nuclear weapons." March 16th, "Meet the Press."
This vice president was a driving force in trying to create the circumstances to justify the United States's attack against Iran. And he not only deceived the people of the United States, and the Congress of the United States, he deceived the American media.
KUCINICH: And so these articles are tightly focused on the conduct of the vice president. And to the extent that they may reflect in some way on the conduct of the president of the United States, is another matter for another day.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
KUCINICH: I think the record is very clear, that this vice president used his conduct of office to promote a war and Article I and Article II are very clear that he conducted himself in such a way as to use the power of his office to promote that war.
And so this relates to the vice president. And I think I answered the question earlier about why the vice president and not the president.
Anyone else? I want to thank you very much for being here.
QUESTION: Do you have anyone you would identify as a replacement? If Vice President Cheney were impeached, it would have to be voted on the House and the Senate for confirmation.
Kucinich Starts New Impeachment Drive
By David M. Herszenhorn
Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio may get excluded from Democratic presidential debates, as he has been recently, but no one can deny him the floor in the House.
And today Mr. Kucinich took to the floor to fire off his latest salvo at the Bush administration: his plans to introduce Articles of Impeachment against President Bush on Jan. 28 — the day of Mr. Bush’s State of the Union speech.
Accusing the administration of lying about the need for the war in Iraq, Mr. Kucinich said he did not need to hear the president’s
assessment. “We know the State of the Union,” he declared. “It’s a lie.”
He also fired a volley at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California
who has maintained that impeaching Mr. Bush is not on the table for Congressional Democrats. “If impeachment is off the table,” Mr. Kucinich said, “truth is off the table. If truth is off the table
then this body is living a lie.”
Mr. Kucinich introduced Articles of Impeachment against Vice
President Dick Cheney last April and in November, with the surprise help of Republicans seeking to embarrass the Democrats, he nearly succeeded in securing an hour of debate on the House floor. House Democratic leaders blocked that, however, by referring the impeachment effort back to the Judiciary Committee.
Anti-Bush groups have been urging Mr. Kucinich to undertake an
effort to impeach the president.
END
acefree
Quote: Originally posted by cavlou Simmer down. It's not what he is doing that people are putting him down for, it is his timing. He should have done this YEARS ago, not wait until the last minute. It is easy to have the balls now that the president is on his way out anyway. Why not wait unitl 12/31/08 at 11:59 at this point?
when republicans controlled congress, he couldnt introduce them.
and the new dem leadership is not for this. they feel it might backlash against them in the 08 elections because they know the public wants congress to work on solutions for current problems, as apposed to rehashing past mistakes.
SaintJimmy
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk thats what i though.
is that what you though?
really?
DUDE-HERE
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy Possible blackmail due to consentual sex - impeachable.
Killing thousands and thousands of people by starting wars with lies - okey dokey.
but if he is wanting to hide it then it becomes a comodity like switzer..of course its not worse than a war dummy but they should have done this 1 year ago
cavlou
Quote: Originally posted by acefree when republicans controlled congress, he couldnt introduce them.
and the new dem leadership is not for this. they feel it might backlash against them in the 08 elections because they know the public wants congress to work on solutions for current problems, as apposed to rehashing past mistakes.
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