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| NickNuke |
College Displaying Crucifix in Rectum Got Millions in Tax Dollars
By Keriann Hopkins
CNSNews.com Correspondent
June 10, 2008
(WARNING: This story contains graphic descriptions of artwork that is offensive.)
(CNSNews.com) - Federal taxpayers are subsidizing a college in New York whose art school is currently displaying works that include a drawing of a man with a crucifix coming out of his rectum, a drawing of a man with a rosary coming out of his rectum, and rosaries decorated with penises.
Over the last eight years, at least $4.6 million in federal tax dollars have been provided to the Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, which is displaying the controversial artworks. Some of the money has come in the form of grants from the National Endowment for the Arts.
Most of the $4.6 million in federal tax dollars that has gone to Cooper Union over the last eight years has been given to the school's engineering and science programs. But Cybercast News Service has learned that the National Endowment for the Arts has given the school's art program more than $122,000 during that same period.
The NEA awarded the grants because, in its words, they "(enrich) our Nation and diverse cultural heritage by supporting works of artistic excellence, advancing learning in the arts, and strengthening the arts in communities throughout the country."
According to the NEA's Web site, the art school received:
-- $17,000 in 2001, $20,000 in 2002, and $10,000 in 2003 to support and expand a community arts partnership (CAP). This money went to provide pre-college studio art classes to the community "outside of the academic setting."
-- $400 in 2002 for design arts.
-- $45,000 in 2006 to support the school's Saturday Outreach Program, and its Outreach Track. These projects provide high school students with free visual arts education.
-- $10,000 in 2004.
The NEA grants did not go directly to fund Cooper Union's "best of" student art exhibition, which includes the controversial drawings of student Felipe Baeza that depict a man with an erection and a halo over his head; a man with a rosary hanging from his rectum; a man with a crucifix extending from his rectum, and a man with his pants down over an angel holding two rosaries with penises attached to them.
Cooper Union is a private institution that provides full-tuition scholarships to all enrolled students. Like most private universities, it uses federal grants for research projects and for funding education programs.
Federal grants to Cooper Union over the last eight years went mainly to the school's engineering program. According to the federal government's Web site, the grants included:
-- $22,537 from the U.S. Department of Education
-- $62,445 from the U.S Air Force
-- $1.1 million from the National Science Foundation
-- $7,175 from the National Institute of Standards and Technology
The college also received $2.8 million for student financial assistance programs, mainly in the form of Pell Grants.
Matt Barber, policy director for cultural issues at Concerned Women for America, said that since money is "fungible" it did not matter what program the federal tax dollars were directed toward. Money that is obtained for one purpose, he said, typically frees up other money that can then be used for other purposes.
The Cooper Union Web site boasts that since 2000, the engineering school received funding from NASA, the New York City Department of Environmental Protection, the National Security Agency, the City of New York Department of Transportation, the U.S. Department of Energy and the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority.
Calls to Cooper Union were directed to press officer Jolene Resnick, who directed Cybercast News Service to a news release that said: "The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art End of Year Show is curated by faculty of the schools of architecture, engineering, and art, as it has been for more than 40 years. Hundreds of student works are shown annually without censorship -- a tradition at the school since its founding by Peter Cooper 150 years ago."
The student art exhibit runs until June 10.
REPLACE ROSARY AND CRUCIFIX WITH KORAN, AND WATCH THE LEFT GO CRAZY. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke REPLACE ROSARY AND CRUCIFIX WITH KORAN, AND WATCH THE LEFT GO CRAZY. |
Wrong again.
What a shocker.
Replace "art student in college" with "U.S. soldier in occupied muslim country", and then see what happens.
(way to completely miss the point. Good job!!!) |
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| Gary_Busey |
Cooper Union is one of the finest architecture schools in the nation. Home to Daniel Liebskind.
When do you propose to limit Free Speech, Nick?
Why do you think Art is meant to provoke? Do you think their could be a reason? |
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| modeams |
| Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. - Frederick Douglas |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
(WARNING: This story contains graphic descriptions of artwork that is offensive.)
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Replace the word "is" with the words "that may be offensive". Being offended is relative and is for old ladies only in my opinion.
I can only speak for myself; the Koran incident didn't offend me. I just think it's stupid to do things like that in a country you are occupying especially when some of the locals don't really want you there and many of the locals are religious nut bags. Why create more problems in an already problematic place?
As far as the cross thing, until we decide as a country to hold ourselves to the same standards as those nut bags in the middle east and get all fucked up over freedom, expression, liberty, and rational thought, and become a full on religioso nation, I can't care about whether or not the Christians get a little upset about somebody putting a cross up their ass (no money was given specifically for that piece BTW). They'll just have to entertain themselves and keep busy by continually trying to control what I watch, do with my body, and believe in. Keep trying though, maybe one day the Christians will have their dream of making America just like the middle east. Until then fuck Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Abraham, Ganesh, and L Ron Hubbard. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| i don't think fed dollars should finance any art unless it is art that will be adhered to some gubment office or school |
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| jigzaw |
Quote: Originally posted by ICE CUBAN Replace the word "is" with the words "that may be offensive". Being offended is relative and is for old ladies only in my opinion.
I can only speak for myself; the Koran incident didn't offend me. I just think it's stupid to do things like that in a country you are occupying especially when some of the locals don't really want you there and many of the locals are religious nut bags. Why create more problems in an already problematic place?
As far as the cross thing, until we decide as a country to hold ourselves to the same standards as those nut bags in the middle east and get all fucked up over freedom, expression, liberty, and rational thought, and become a full on religioso nation, I can't care about whether or not the Christians get a little upset about somebody putting a cross up their ass (no money was given specifically for that piece BTW). They'll just have to entertain themselves and keep busy by continually trying to control what I watch, do with my body, and believe in. Keep trying though, maybe one day the Christians will have their dream of making America just like the middle east. Until then fuck Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Abraham, Ganesh, and L Ron Hubbard. |
Well put. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by ICE CUBAN Until then fuck Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Abraham, Ganesh, and L Ron Hubbard. |
You forgot Satan, StoneHenge, Zeus, Apocatequil, Ishvara, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna-Vasudeva, Shakti, Gaia, rocks, and Jessica Biel - you insensitive prick. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz You forgot Satan, StoneHenge, Zeus, Apocatequil, Ishvara, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna-Vasudeva, Shakti, Gaia, rocks, and Jessica Biel - you insensitive prick. |
Don't leave out vishnu and the flying spaghetti monster. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy Don't leave out vishnu and the flying spaghetti monster. |
Vishnu and Shakti are the same god - duh! |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz You forgot Satan, StoneHenge, Zeus, Apocatequil, Ishvara, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna-Vasudeva, Shakti, Gaia, rocks, and Jessica Biel - you insensitive prick. |
I'll see your Satan, StoneHenge, Zeus, Apocatequil, Ishvara, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna-Vasudeva, Shakti, Gaia, rocks, Jessica Biel, and I'll raise you Quetzalcoatl, Baldr, Forseti, Loki, Ra, Anubus, Osiris, Isis, Seth, and a pile of coconut rinds and chicken bones. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by ICE CUBAN I'll see your Satan, StoneHenge, Zeus, Apocatequil, Ishvara, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna-Vasudeva, Shakti, Gaia, rocks, Jessica Biel, and I'll raise you Quetzalcoatl, Baldr, Forseti, Loki, Ra, Anubus, Osiris, Isis, Seth, and a pile of coconut rinds and chicken bones. |
Look man, if you're gonna bust out sub-dieties and think you can take on my dieties you have got another Krishna comin' :nono: - I still can't believe Jimmy didn't know Vishnu and Shakti were the same :doh: :D |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz Look man, if you're gonna bust out sub-dieties and think you can take on my dieties you have got another Krishna comin' :nono: - I still can't believe Jimmy didn't know Vishnu and Shakti were the same :doh: :D |
I can't believe I remembered the name vishnu. |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz Look man, if you're gonna bust out sub-dieties and think you can take on my dieties you have got another Krishna comin' :nono: - I still can't believe Jimmy didn't know Vishnu and Shakti were the same :doh: :D |
Sub-dietes are where it's at. In a fight they'd totally kick ass. They have all that pent up aggression from being treated like second class Jesus's''sss (what would be the plural for Jesus?) |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by ICE CUBAN Sub-dietes are where it's at. In a fight they'd totally kick ass. They have all that pent up aggression from being treated like second class Jesus's''sss (what would be the plural for Jesus?) |
We've nerded this up enough haven't we :o :D
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy I can't believe I remembered the name vishnu. |
You get points for that :D |
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| bskwizzle |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy Wrong again.
What a shocker.
Replace "art student in college" with "U.S. soldier in occupied muslim country", and then see what happens.
(way to completely miss the point. Good job!!!) |
Exactly.
i DO have an amendment though.
"Replace 'American art student in a US college' with..." , would be more appropriate, but obviously you are going for the exact same point.
NickNuke is a bigot who hates all Muslims. He thinks we are at war with the Muslim religion. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
how about a sculper of ghandi waterboading a terrorist
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by bskwizzle Exactly.
i DO have an amendment though.
"Replace 'American art student in a US college' with..." , would be more appropriate, but obviously you are going for the exact same point.
NickNuke is a bigot who hates all Muslims. He thinks we are at war with the Muslim religion. |
I do not hate all Muslims, but yes, we are indeed at war with with Islam. Is this a secret? |
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| MLBoros72s |
| FUCK Liberty man. That shit is ruining America :rolleyes: |
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| MLBoros72s |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke I do not hate all Muslims, but yes, we are indeed at war with with Islam. Is this a secret? |
Really? Maybe we should have gone after the epicenter of Sunni terrorism, Saudi Arabia. Isn't that the nation that hold Mecca and Medina too? And a fuckton of oil? There has to be some really really good reason we didn't invade Saudi Arabia, right?
Didn't they provide 15/19 hijackers? Aren't the Bin Ladens Saudi? Don't the Islamic Monarchs of Saudi Arabia badly oppress their women and people too? |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s FUCK Liberty man. That shit is ruining America :rolleyes: |
lots ofthings are ruining america and i can only point my finger at the people in it
lac of live and let live
limited freedoms
lac of consideration for fellow man or woman
aweful driving habits
television
the dept of education
ipods
dvds players in cars
american idol
desparate housewives
the hills
lac of parents
lots of stuff |
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| CrackHead_Fan |
| Damnit. All this publicity is going to drive up the price of that art. I've been shopping for a picture of a man with a crucifix coming out of his rectum for my office. :D |
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| John Titor |
| Piss Christ, Nuff said . These so called brave Artist attack and mock Christians because they wont cut their fucking heads off. Show me an Artist who mocks Islam and i will show you a TRUE brave artist. |
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| booybob |
If this was the Koran, There would be MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS rioting world wide.
In America, we only print an article in the papers.
I wonder what politician will come out about this like they did about the trashing the Koran?
I bet there will be none, because in this country you can bash a Christian or any religious group except the Muslims.
I wonder what kind of press a person shitting on a koran would get?
Hell, I wonder if a person shitting on a koran would be considered art or a hate crime.
Don't you hate the double standards? |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Piss Christ, Nuff said . These so called brave Artist attack and mock Christians because they wont cut their fucking heads off. Show me an Artist who mocks Islam and i will show you a TRUE brave artist. |
Shut up stupid. 10$ says you wouldn't mouth off about blacks like you do in front of some real hard-core niggas. Let's see how quick you share your little purple lip jokes then.
You're probably the kind of guy who woukld take a dick up the as in prison so not to get beat up. |
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| bskwizzle |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke I do not hate all Muslims, but yes, we are indeed at war with with Islam. Is this a secret? |
We're not at war with Islam, dumbass!!!
We're at war with terrorists most of which just so happen to be Islamic.
Explain, intelligently how we are actually at war with the Islamic religion. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy Wrong again.
What a shocker.
Replace "art student in college" with "U.S. soldier in occupied muslim country", and then see what happens.
(way to completely miss the point. Good job!!!) |
Poor Nick brought his checkers to a chess tournament again. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by ICE CUBAN Shut up stupid. 10$ says you wouldn't mouth off about blacks like you do in front of some real hard-core niggas. Let's see how quick you share your little purple lip jokes then.
You're probably the kind of guy who woukld take a dick up the as in prison so not to get beat up. |
His only comeback will be to call you a "jew killer."
Not that it means anything or is in the least bit relevant, but that's all he ever comes back with. :rolleyes: |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by bskwizzle We're not at war with Islam, dumbass!!!
We're at war with terrorists most of which just so happen to be Islamic.
Explain, intelligently how we are actually at war with the Islamic religion. |
Uh, aren't you asking for a lot? |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE i don't think fed dollars should finance any art unless it is art that will be adhered to some gubment office or school |
Agreed. |
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| bskwizzle |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie Uh, aren't you asking for a lot? |
NickNuke's absence speaks volumes. |
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by bskwizzle NickNuke's absence speaks volumes. |
Actually, I have a REAL job.
We are at war with the people who want to kill us and destroy our way of life. Their ideology is based on Islam, therefore, we are at war with Islam. If it were a few scattered occurances, I would agree with you, but the statistics scream.
There are 14 worldwide conflicts because of Islam. Everyday, you read about new instances of aggression, fighting, kidnappings, murders, burnings, bombings, hackings, shootings that are committed by Muslims from all walks of life.
When those planes flew into the towers, there was worldwide celebration in the majority of Muslim communities. |
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| MLBoros72s |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke Actually, I have a REAL job.
We are at war with the people who want to kill us and destroy our way of life. Their ideology is based on Islam, therefore, we are at war with Islam. If it were a few scattered occurances, I would agree with you, but the statistics scream.
There are 14 worldwide conflicts because of Islam. Everyday, you read about new instances of aggression, fighting, kidnappings, murders, burnings, bombings, hackings, shootings that are committed by Muslims from all walks of life.
When those planes flew into the towers, there was worldwide celebration in the majority of Muslim communities. |
So you're in 100% agreement with invading and removing the oppressive Saudi regime, right? |
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie Poor Nick brought his checkers to a chess tournament again. |
More like pragmatic reasoning to a poetry read.
You guys just love listening to yourselves. |
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by MLBoros72s So you're in 100% agreement with invading and removing the oppressive Saudi regime, right? |
If we can tie Saudi Arabian political structure to Islamic terrorism, then yes, of course. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke More like pragmatic reasoning to a poetry read.
You guys just love listening to yourselves. |
My analogy was more Stern oriented than yours. |
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| bskwizzle |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke We are at war with the people who want to kill us and destroy our way of life. Their ideology is based on Islam, therefore, we are at war with Islam. If it were a few scattered occurances, I would agree with you, but the statistics scream. |
Ok, sir, let's play a game where we apply your logic to other situations.
1. There is a group of people known as the KKK. They burn crosses on black peoples' lawns. Their ideology is based in Christianity. Therefor, by your reasoning, all christians hate black people.
2. (here's your favorite) There are people in this country who bomb abortion clinics and kill abortion doctors. Their ideology and fanaticism is rooted in the Christian faith. By your reasoning, all christians are murderous terrorists.
we are NOT at war with Islam!! We are at war with a group of people who just so happen to be islamic!!!!! To be at war with islam, we would have to be at war with EVERY PERSON who is islamic!!!!
Are we?????
stop being ridiculous!!!! |
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| John Titor |
Quote: Originally posted by bskwizzle Ok, sir, let's play a game where we apply your logic to other situations.
1. There is a group of people known as the KKK. They burn crosses on black peoples' lawns. Their ideology is based in Christianity. Therefor, by your reasoning, all christians hate black people.
2. (here's your favorite) There are people in this country who bomb abortion clinics and kill abortion doctors. Their ideology and fanaticism is rooted in the Christian faith. By your reasoning, all christians are murderous terrorists.
we are NOT at war with Islam!! We are at war with a group of people who just so happen to be islamic!!!!! To be at war with islam, we would have to be at war with EVERY PERSON who is islamic!!!!
Are we?????
stop being ridiculous!!!! |
Why do niwits try and still compare Christians to terrorist Muslims ? i mean what is there to gain ? FUCKING MORONS ! :rolleyes: |
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| acefree |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE lots ofthings are ruining america and i can only point my finger at the people in it
lac of live and let live
limited freedoms
lac of consideration for fellow man or woman
aweful driving habits
television
the dept of education
ipods
dvds players in cars
american idol
desparate housewives
the hills
lac of parents
lots of stuff |
u forgot dancing with the stars. |
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| Fred The Midget |
So CNSNews, aka Cybercast News Service, but formerly known as Conservative News Service, run by Brent Bozell's "Parents Television Council" wackos who for years slimed Howard Stern and tried to get him off the air, say a university is receiving a whopping $144,000 in taxpayer money to fund art projects?
Seems pretty crazy to be so outraged about $144k funding some art students, then excusing staying in Iraq, which is wasting billions of dollars each month. |
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| Fred The Midget |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke If we can tie Saudi Arabian political structure to Islamic terrorism, then yes, of course. |
IF we tie the Saudi's to Islamic terrorism???
Did you forget that 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were Saudis? Have you not heard the lawsuit by the 9/11 victim families against the Saudi government for funding the terrorists?
Look up Omar al-Bayoumi. He was a Saudi intelligence agent who aided some of the 9/11 terrorists when they entered the US. He met them, gave them funding, then paid for their apartment in San Diego. Al-Bayoumi was directly funded by the Saudi royals (Prince Bandar in particular).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_al-Bayoumi
Even the White House talked about wanting to interview Al-Bayoumi.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93736,00.html
Here is another great article about him:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Page_...Sept._0228.html |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Why do niwits try and still compare Christians to terrorist Muslims ? i mean what is there to gain ? FUCKING MORONS ! :rolleyes: |
Actually, they're not.
They're comparing christian terrorists to muslim terrorists. |
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| John Titor |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie Actually, they're not.
They're comparing christian terrorists to muslim terrorists. |
Let me explain this for the Blinded terrorist defenders who can't admit there are major Issues with islam . See Jesus never did teach hate , he spoke how every man was the son of God and equal, hence the fucking KKK has nothing to do with be Christians they are a retarded hate group that burns crosses. Now islam on the other hand was created by a WARRIOR , it has a MILITARY CODE no other religion has. The MUSLIM TERRORIST are following THE KORAN !. Christian nitwits make up their own shit not in the Bible. :cool: |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Let me explain this for the Blinded terrorist defenders who can't admit there are major Issues with islam . See Jesus never did teach hate , he spoke how every man was the son of God and equal, hence the fucking KKK has nothing to do with be Christians they are a retarded hate group that burns crosses. Now islam on the other hand was created by a WARRIOR , it has a MILITARY CODE no other religion has. The MUSLIM TERRORIST are following THE KORAN !. Christian nitwits make up their own shit not in the Bible. :cool: |
Wrong.....LIAR
Small sample
Quote: Cruelty and Violence in the Bible
But Adonibezek fled; and they pursued after him, and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and his great toes.--Judges 1:6
Were we allowed to read the Bible as we do all other books, we would admire its beauties, treasure its worthy thoughts, and account for all its absurd, grotesque and cruel things, by saying that its authors lived in rude, barbaric times. -- Robert Ingersoll, Some Mistakes of Moses
Genesis
1. Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8
2. God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17
3. God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4
4. God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23
5. God sends a plague on the Pharaoh and his household because the Pharaoh believed Abram's lie. 12:17
6. God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10
7. Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6
8. "I will not destroy it for ten's sake."
I guess God couldn't find even ten good Sodomites because he decides to kill them all in Genesis 19. Too bad Abraham didn't ask God about the children. Why not save them? If Abraham could find 10 good children, toddlers, infants, or babies, would God spare the city? Apparently not. God doesn't give a damn about children. 18:32
9. Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Peter 2:7-8. 19:7-8
10. God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24
11. Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26
12. God threatens to kill Abimelech and his people for believing Abe's lie. 20:3-7
13. Sarai tells Abraham to "cast out this bondwoman and her son." God commands him to "hearken unto her voice." So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the wilderness to die. 21:10-14
14. God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13
15. Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only an evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10
16. Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31
17. "The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them." 35:5
18. "And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday. 38:7
19. After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10
20. After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she "played the harlot" and "is with child by whoredom." When Judah hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." 38:24
21. Joseph interprets the baker's dream. He says that the pharaoh will cut off the baker's head, and hang his headless body on a tree for the birds to eat. 40:19
Exodus
22. Moses murders an Egyptian after making sure that no one is looking. 2:11-12
23. God threatens to kill the Pharaoh's firstborn son. 4:23
24. God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26
25. God will make sure that Pharaoh does not listen to Moses, so that he can kill Egyptians with his armies. 7:4
26. "And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD." Who else could be so cruel and unjust? 7:5, 17
27. God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into blood. 7:17-24
28. The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:2-6
29. The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. 9:9-12
30. "For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth." Who else but the biblical god could be so cruel? 9:14
31. The seventh plague is hail. "And the hail smote throughout the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast." 9:22-25
32. These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. 11:4-6 (see 12:29-30)
33. God will kill the Egyptian children to show that he puts "a difference between the Egyptians and Israel." 11:7
34. God explains to Moses that he intends to "smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast. 12:12
35. After God has sufficiently hardened the Pharaoh's heart, he kills all the firstborn Egyptian children. When he was finished "there was not a house where there was not one dead." Finally, he runs out of little babies to kill, so he slaughters the firstborn cattle, too. 12:29
36. To commemorate the divine massacre of the Egyptian children, Moses instructs the Israelites to "sacrifice to the Lord all that openeth the matrix" -- all the males, that is. God has no use for dead, burnt female bodies. 13:2, 12, 15
37. After hardening Pharaoh's heart a few more times, God drowns Pharaoh's army in the sea 14:4-28
38. Moses and the people sing praises to their murderous god. 15:1-19
39. "The Lord is a man of war." Indeed, judging from his acts in the Old Testament, he is a vicious warlike monster. 15:3
40. God's right hand dashes people in pieces. 15:6
41. If you do what God says, he won't send his diseases on you (like he did to the Egyptians). But otherwise.... 15:26
42. Joshua, with God's approval, kills the Amalekites "with the edge of the sword." 17:13
43. "The Lord has sworn [God swears!] that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." 17:14-16
44. Any person or animal that touches Mt. Sinai shall be stoned to death or "shot through." 19:12-13
45. Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. 19:21
46. God gives instructions for killing and burning animals. He says that if we will make such "burnt offerings," he will bless us for it. What kind of mind would be pleased by the killing and burning of innocent animals? 20:24
47. A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed. 21:15, 17
48. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 21:24-25
49. If an ox gores someone, "then the ox shall surely be stoned." 21:28
50. If an ox gores someone due to the negligence of its owner, then "the ox shall be stoned, and his owner shall be put to death.". 21:29
51. If an ox gores a slave, the owner of the ox must pay the owner of the slave 30 shekels of silver, and "the ox shall be stoned." 21:32
52. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18
53. "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." Is it really necessary to kill such people? Couldn't we just send them to counseling or something? 22:19
54. "He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20
55. If you make God angry enough, he will kill you and your family with his own sword. 22:24
56. "The firstborn of thy sons thou shalt give unto me." (As a burnt offering?) 22:29
57. God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land. 23:27
58. Moses has some animals killed and their dead bodies burned for God. Then he sprinkles their blood on the altar and on the people. This makes God happy. 24:5-8
59. Get some animals, kill them, chop up their bodies, wave body parts in the air, burn the carcasses, and sprinkle the blood all around -- in precisely the way God tells you. It may well make you sick, but it makes God feel good. 29:11-37
60. Have your killed and offered your bullock for a sin offering today? How about the two lambs you are supposed to offer each day? 29:36-39
61. Wash up or die. 30:20-21
62. Moses burned the golden calf, ground it into powder, and then forced it down the throats of all the people. 32:20
63. Whoever puts holy oil on a stranger shall be "cut off from his people." 30:33
64. Those who break the Sabbath are to be executed. 31:14
65. God asks to be left alone so that his "wrath may wax hot" and he can "consume them. 32:10
66. God orders the sons of Levi (Moses, Aaron, and the other members of their tribe that were "on the Lord's side") to kill "every man his neighbor." "And there fell of the people that day about 3000 men." 32:27-28
67. But God wasn't satisfied with the slaughter of the 3000, so he killed some more people with a plague. 32:35
68. If you can't redeem him, then just "break his neck." Hey, it's all for the glory of God. 34:20
69. Whoever works, or even kindles a fire, on the Sabbath "shall be put to death." 35:2-3
Leviticus
70. God gives detailed instructions for performing ritualistic animal sacrifices. such bloody rituals must be important to God, judging from the number of times that he repeats their instructions. Indeed the entire first nine chapters of Leviticus can be summarized as follows: Get an animal, kill it, sprinkle the blood around, cut the dead animal into pieces, and burn it for a "sweet savor unto the Lord." Chapters 1 - 9
71. "Flay the burnt offering; cut it into pieces." 1:6
72. Burn the head, fat, and entrails for "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:8-9
73. "Kill it and sprinkle blood round about." 1:11, 3:2, 3:8, 3:13
74. "Cut it into pieces and burn it for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:12-13
75. "Wring off its head and burn it." 1:15
76. "For a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:17
77. "Part it in pieces... it is a meat offering." 2:6
78. "It is a thing most holy of the offerings of the LORD made by fire." 2:10
79. What to do with the fat, kidneys, and liver of your burnt offerings. 3:3-4, 3:9-10, 3:14-16
80. "Kill the bullock before the Lord and take of the bullock's blood." 4:4
81. "The priest shall dip his finger in the blood and sprinkle the blood seven times before the Lord." 4:6, 4:17
82. "Pour all the blood at the bottom of the altar." 4:7
83. What to do with the fat, kidneys, liver, skin, head, entrails, and dung from your burnt offerings. 4:8-11
84. "The bullock shall be killed before the Lord." 4:14
85. "Kill it and pour out the blood." 4:24-25
86. "Slay it for a sin offering, pour out the blood, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 4:29-31
87. Slay it for a sin offering, put the blood on your finger, and pour out the blood at the bottom of the altar. 4:33-34
88. Wringing off the heads of pigeons for God. 5:8-9
89. Kill the sin offering before the Lord. "It is most holy." 6:25
90. The holy law of trespass offering: Find an animal; kill it; sprinkle the blood around; offer God the fat, rump, kidneys, and caul; burn and eat it in the holy place, for "it is most holy." 7:1-6
91. The priest must sprinkle the blood of the peace offerings. 7:14
92. Be careful what you eat during these animal sacrifices. Don't eat fat or blood -- these are for God. (And he doesn't like to share!) 7:18-27
93. God gives instructions for "wave offerings" and "heave offerings." He says these offerings are to be made perpetually "by a statute for ever." Have you made your heave offering today? 7:30-36
94. Moses does it all for God. First he kills an animal; wipes the blood on Aaron's ears, thumbs, and big toes. Then he sprinkles blood round about and waves the guts before the Lord. Finally he burns the whole mess for "a sweet savour before the Lord." 8:14-32
95. More killing, sprinkling of blood, waiving animal parts, and burning carcasses "before the Lord." 9:2-21
96. Kill the calf, dip your finger in the blood, sprinkle the blood round about, burn the fat and entrails, and wave the breast for a wave offering before the Lord. 9:8-21
97. Two of the sons of Aaron "offered strange fire before the Lord" and "there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord." 10:1-3
98. If priests misbehave at the tabernacle by uncovering their heads, tearing their clothes, leaving with holy oil on them, or by drinking "wine or strong drink", then God will kill them and send his wrath on "all the people." 10:6-9
99. After a woman gives birth, a priest must kill a lamb, pigeon, or dove as a sin offering. This is because having children is sinful and God likes it when things are killed for him. 12:6-8
100. God's law for lepers: Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly off. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally kill a couple doves and offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 14:2-32
101. God "put the plague of leprosy" into the houses of the Canaanites. 14:34
102. God explains the use of scapegoats. It goes like this: Get two goats. Kill one. Wipe, smear, and sprinkle the blood around seven times. Then take the other goat, give it the sins of all the people, and send it off into the wilderness. 16:6-28
103. Sprinkle the blood and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the Lord. 17:6
104. If you upset God, he'll cause the land to vomit you out. 18:25
105. "Whosoever shall commit any of these abominations ... shall be cut off from among their people." 18:29, 19:8
106. Don't eat sacrifices on the third day or God will cut you off from among your people. 19:6-8
107. Kill anyone who "gives his seed" to Molech. If you refuse, God will cut you and your family off. 20:2-5
108. "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall surely be put to death." Couldn't we try spanking first? 20:9
109. Both parties in adultery shall be executed. 20:10
110. If a man has sex with his father's wife, kill them both. 20:11
111. If a man "lies" with his daughter-in-law, then both must be killed. 20:12
112. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
113. If you "lie" with your wife and your mother-in-law (now that sounds fun!), then all three of you must be burned to death. 20:14
114. If a man or woman "lie with a beast" both the person and the poor animal are to be killed. 20:15-16
115. People with "familiar spirits" (witches, fortune tellers, etc.) are to be stoned to death. 20:27
116. A priest's daughter who "plays the whore" is to be burned to death. 21:9
117. God gives us more instructions on killing and burning animals. I guess the first nine chapters of Leviticus wasn't enough. He says we must do this because he really likes the smell -- it is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 23:12-14, 18
118. Don't do any work on the day of atonement or God will destroy you. 23:29-30
119. A man curses and blasphemes while disputing with another man. Moses asks God what to do about it. God says that the whole community must stone him to death. "And the children of Israel did as the Lord and Moses commanded." 24:10-23
120. Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the entire community. 24:16
121. God tells the Israelites to make slaves out of their neighbors and their families. The "heathens" and "strangers" are to be their possessions forever. 25:44-46
122. God tells the Israelites to "chase" their enemies and make them "fall before you by the sword." He figures five of the Israelites will be able to "chase" a hundred of their enemies, and a hundred will be able to "put ten thousand to flight." 26:7-8
123. God describes the torments that he has planned for those who displease him. The usual stuff: plagues, burning fevers that will consume the eyes, etc. but he reserves the worst for the little children. He says "ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it," "I will send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children," and "ye shall eat the flesh of your sons and daughters." 26:16-39
124. All "devoted" things (both man and beast) "shall surely be put to death." 27:28-29
Numbers
125. God shows his hospitality with the admonition: "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 1:51, 3:10, 3:38
126. Two of Aaron's sons are killed by God for "offering strange fire before the Lord." 3:4
127. Don't touch or "go in to see when the holy things are covered." God kills people who touch or look at covered holy things. 4:15, 20
128. God tells the people to expel from camp "every leper, every one that hath an issue, and whoever is defiled by the dead." So by God's instructions, the sick are abandoned and left to suffer and die alone. 5:1-4
129. "And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it." (He had his hearing aid on.) He then burned the complainers alive. That'll teach them. 11:1
130. "And wile the flesh [of the quails] was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague. "The Bible isn't too clear about what these poor folks did to upset God so much; all it says is that they had "lusted." 11:33
131. Miriam and Aaron (Moses' brother and sister) criticize Moses for marrying an Ethiopian woman and thus breaking the law of God. But God makes it clear that his rules don't apply to his favorites, and he strikes Miriam with leprosy. Notice that only Miriam is punished, though both she and Aaron complained. 12:1, 9-10
132. More plagues and pestilence sent by God. God repeats one of his favorite promises: "your carcasses shall fall in this wilderness." 14:12, 29, 14:32-37
133. God punishes the children for the failings of their great-great grandfathers. 14:18
134. God killed those that murmured against him with a plague. 14:36-37
135. God gives more instructions for the ritualistic killing of animals. The smell of burning flesh is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 15:3, 13-14, 24
136. The Israelites find a man picking up sticks on the sabbath. God commands them to kill him by throwing rocks at him. 15:32-36
137. Because of a dispute between Korah and Moses, God has the ground open up and swallow Korah, Dathan, and Abiram "and their wives, and their sons, and their little children." Then, just for the hell of it, God has a fire burn to death 250 "men that offered incense." 16:20-35
138. After God killed Korah, his family, and 250 innocent bystanders, the people complained saying, "ye have killed the people of the Lord." So God, who doesn't take kindly to criticism, sends a plague on the people. And "they that died in the plague were 14,700." 16:41-50
139. God threatens to kill those who murmur. To which the people reply, "Behold, we die, we perish, we all perish .... Shall we be consumed with dying?" 17:12-13
140. Stay away from holy things and places -- like churches. God might have to kill you if you get too close.18:3, 22, 32
141. God shows us how to make new friends by saying : "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 18:7
142. God describes once again the procedure for ritualistic animal sacrifices. such rituals must be extremely important to God, since he makes their performance a "statute" and "covenant" forever. 18:17-19
143. The purification of the unclean. These absurd rituals, cruel sacrifices, and unjust punishments are vitally important to God. They are to be "a perpetual statute" for all humankind. 19:1-22
144. "And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities." This verse demonstrates the power of prayer: If you ask God, he will destroy entire cities for you. 21:3
145. God sends "fiery serpents" to bite his chosen people, and many of them die. 21:6 |
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Somebody don't know the difference between the new and old testement . :rolleyes: FUCKING NITWIT ! |
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| Why do the Christian bashers JUMP to defend Islam ? :rolleyes: |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Why do niwits try and still compare Christians to terrorist Muslims ? i mean what is there to gain ? FUCKING MORONS ! :rolleyes: |
OK, let's see who the nimwit is.
I wasn;t comparing christians and muslims. Please explain how i was actually comparing christians to muslims, i am all ears.
i was saying that the generalization of an entire group by the actions and ideals of a faction of that group is ridiculous.
I was comparing two examples of irrational generalizations. |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Somebody don't know the difference between the new and old testement . :rolleyes: FUCKING NITWIT ! |
Somebody needs to take their bible(s) and shove it up their ass ... Titsore |
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Quote: Originally posted by bskwizzle OK, let's see who the nimwit is.
I wasn;t comparing christians and muslims. Please explain how i was actually comparing christians to muslims, i am all ears.
i was saying that the generalization of an entire group by the actions and ideals of a faction of that group is ridiculous.
I was comparing two examples of irrational generalizations. |
If You think the KKK has as many people as Radical Islam you need to just go shoot yourself ASSHAT ! Also a religion with a Military Code can never be a religion of peace. |
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Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson Somebody needs to take their bible(s) and shove it up their ass ... Titsore |
i am not Christian, i am an Agnostic who finds it funny that lefties like you will Bash , twist , Mock ,Christians but run to the defense of the biggest threat in Human History , RADICAL EXTREMIST MUSLIMS! |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Somebody don't know the difference between the new and old testement . :rolleyes: FUCKING NITWIT ! |
Somebdy DON'T KNOW that the old testament BEGOT the new testament. Somebody also DON'T KNOW that christians ULTIMATELY worship and follow GOD, who did commit and condone every one of the acts listed.
If you are going to say that they worship Jesus, then you will also have to say that Jesus, according to christians, is the personification of God, therefor also committed and condoned those acts.
If you're going to believe in and follow what is taught in the Bible, please stop picking and choosing what you'd like to believe and take it as a whole like you are supposed to, FUCKING NITWIT!!!! |
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Quote: Originally posted by bskwizzle Somebdy DON'T KNOW that the old testament BEGOT the new testament. Somebody also DON'T KNOW that christians ULTIMATELY worship and follow GOD, who did commit and condone every one of the acts listed.
If you are going to say that they worship Jesus, then you will also have to say that Jesus, according to christians, is the personification of God, therefor also committed and condoned those acts.
If you're going to believe in and follow what is taught in the Bible, please stop picking and choosing what you'd like to believe and take it as a whole like you are supposed to, FUCKING NITWIT!!!! |
You're nothing but a Christian bigot , who for some reason wants to defend Radical Islam .Fuck Yourself and your worthless tramp mother who gave you life. :p :D :) :o |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor If You think the KKK has as many people as Radical Islam you need to just go shoot yourself ASSHAT ! Also a religion with a Military Code can never be a religion of peace. |
Hey, ballsucker. You are the only one actually comparing the KKK to radical islam or christianity to Islam. No one else was and you're dense if you actually think they were.
If you DO think that i was actually COMPARING the two, please quote me, dissect my quote and show me how i actually was.
I could have used anything else as an example of an unfair generalization too.
Let's see.
If two members of a high school football team raped a cheerleader, does that make every member of the football team a rapist?
Nope.
Am I comparing football players to members of the Islamic religion? No. Am I comparing the SITUATIONS WHERE AN ENTIRE GROUP IS BEING BLAMED FOR THE ACTS OF A PORTION???
FUCKING YES!!!!
Stop being dumb, please. |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Why do the Christian bashers JUMP to defend Islam ? :rolleyes: |
Post where I defended it .....all religion's bullshit, I guess the American Indian should consider white Christians terrorists since they invaded their land,stole their land, lied,beat,raped,murdered and tortured them and built churches praising the lord :rolleyes: |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor i am not Christian, i am an Agnostic who finds it funny that lefties like you will Bash , twist , Mock ,Christians but run to the defense of the biggest threat in Human History , RADICAL EXTREMIST MUSLIMS! |
Seeing how you wrote "radical and extremist" in front of the word "Muslim", it's hard to understand that YOU can't get that not ALL muslims are radical and extremist.
If you really believed that, you wouldn't use the modifiers, "Radical" and "Extremist". If they were all "Radical and "extremist", you would just use the term, "Muslim". |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor You're nothing but a Christian bigot , who for some reason wants to defend Radical Islam .Fuck Yourself and your worthless tramp mother who gave you life. :p :D :) :o |
Please quote me and show me where i have ever actually defended "RADICAL" Islam.
If you can do that, I swear on my life that i will send you $50.
If you show me defending Islam in general and not the "Radical" factions, you get nothing.
You can't do it. Because you are a lying pussy. |
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Quote: Originally posted by bskwizzle Seeing how you wrote "radical and extremist" in front of the word "Muslim", it's hard to understand that YOU can't get that not ALL muslims are radical and extremist.
If you really believed that, you wouldn't use the modifiers, "Radical" and "Extremist". If they were all "Radical and "extremist", you would just use the term, "Muslim". |
And before Bush invaded Iraq there were roughly 3000 of these " radicals " that Titsore feels has the power to decimate the entire population of earth :rolleyes: |
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Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson Post where I defended it .....all religion's bullshit, I guess the American Indian should consider white Christians terrorists since they invaded their land,stole their land, lied,beat,raped,murdered and tortured them and built churches praising the lord :rolleyes: |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by John Titor Let me explain this for the Blinded terrorist defenders who can't admit there are major Issues with islam . See Jesus never did teach hate , he spoke how every man was the son of God and equal, hence the fucking KKK has nothing to do with be Christians they are a retarded hate group that burns crosses. Now islam on the other hand was created by a WARRIOR , it has a MILITARY CODE no other religion has. The MUSLIM TERRORIST are following THE KORAN !. Christian nitwits make up their own shit not in the Bible. :cool: |
So, are you saying that Muslims who are NOT terrorists are not real Muslims? |
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Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson And before Bush invaded Iraq there were roughly 3000 of these " radicals " that Titsore feels has the power to decimate the entire population of earth :rolleyes: |
3000 o rly :rolleyes: |
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Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie So, are you saying that Muslims who are NOT terrorists are not real Muslims? |
I am trying to point out the FACT that a religion created by a known WARRIOR that has its own military code. just might be a religion that Extreme nut jobs might gravitate towards . Hence SS bombings and beheadings, EXCUSE ME FOR HAVING MY EYES OPEN ! |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor I am trying to point out the FACT that a religion created by a known WARRIOR that has its own military code. just might be a religion that Extreme nut jobs might gravitate towards . Hence SS bombings and beheadings, EXCUSE ME FOR HAVING MY EYES OPEN ! |
But what about a religion created by a known genocidal egomaniac? |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor I am trying to point out the FACT that a religion created by a known WARRIOR that has its own military code. just might be a religion that Extreme nut jobs might gravitate towards . Hence SS bombings and beheadings, EXCUSE ME FOR HAVING MY EYES OPEN ! |
If you see all Muslims as evil and following a religion of violence, do you support sending more and more billions of dollars to rebuild and help Iraq? Do you support trying to make them a stable country? Do you support Americans dying so that Muslims have a better country in Iraq? |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor I am trying to point out the FACT that a religion created by a known WARRIOR that has its own military code. just might be a religion that Extreme nut jobs might gravitate towards . Hence SS bombings and beheadings, EXCUSE ME FOR HAVING MY EYES OPEN ! |
And you ARE saying that all muslims are terrorists. that is what you are saying. plain and simple.
If you AREN'T saying that all muslims are terrorists, you are proving my point that we aren't at war with all of islam. You are also proving my point that you can't make a generalization of an entire group based on the actions of a FACTION of that group. |
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Quote: Originally posted by John Titor I am trying to point out the FACT that a religion created by a known WARRIOR that has its own military code. just might be a religion that Extreme nut jobs might gravitate towards . Hence SS bombings and beheadings, EXCUSE ME FOR HAVING MY EYES OPEN ! |
"Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war...."
Okay. Here's an example of a Christian hymn.
Christians, too, have commited extreme acts of violence in the name of Christ during different periods of history.
I see the point you're trying to make: Islamic teachings may allow nutjobs to interpret them to condone violence.
Is that an indictment of the teachings or the nutjobs?
I think you're placing too much blame on Islam and not enough on the nutjobs. |
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