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| Reverend Tyler |
How often to you get hypocrisy this rich?
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/...ll=7&thispage=1
An Oregon City woman who dated congressional candidate Mike Erickson seven years ago said she asked him directly whether he wanted to have a baby. He shook his head no, she said, and paid for her abortion.
In interviews with The Oregonian, the woman said she met Erickson in September 2000, and she had the abortion in January 2001. They saw each other afterward, she said, even going on a trip to Mexico in March, before the relationship ended. She spoke on the condition that only her first name, Tawnya, be used.
Her story is backed up by medical and other records, and the accounts of two friends, one of whom was with her at the abortion. Their story conflicts directly with Erickson's version.
He agrees that he gave Tawnya $300 for medical help, and a ride to a doctor's office near Lloyd Center, but said he didn't know she was pregnant or planned to get an abortion. He said he doesn't think he saw her again after that day.
Erickson, a Lake Oswego businessman, is the Republican candidate for the 5th Congressional District and is running on a "pro-life" platform. The charge that he provided money to Tawnya nearly derailed his campaign for the May 20 primary and could hobble his chances in the Nov. 4 general election against state Sen. Kurt Schrader, D-Canby.
Tawnya, now 34, recalled sitting with Erickson in his new Mercedes that January, parked across from the abortion clinic.
"I was bawling so hard I couldn't speak. He looked so sad. He looked like he cared," she said.
"I asked him, 'Are you sure you don't want a baby?' " she said. "He shook his head. I opened the door, got out bawling and crossed the street and walked up to the clinic."
Erickson, 45, said he dated Tawnya "for a couple of months." He told The Oregonian he didn't remember many details about their relationship, including where they met or when they dated. He said she betrayed no emotion during the car ride.
"Did I pay for an abortion? Absolutely not," Erickson said.
"She was having some financial troubles," he said. "She asked for some money to go have a doctor's appointment -- not knowing what that was -- and whatever happened, happened, I guess. I didn't even know she had an abortion."
Erickson has campaigned on a strict anti-abortion platform that favors abstinence education and adoption over abortion. His opponent in last month's primary, Kevin Mannix, spotlighted the abortion story in a mass mailing to voters a week before the election. Mannix did so without Tawnya's knowledge or consent.
Tawnya reluctantly agreed to talk after repeated requests from The Oregonian. She said she was motivated in part by seeing Erickson tell his version to television reporters before the primary election.
"I'm just sick to my stomach watching him be interviewed on the news completely lying about everything," she said.
She requested her medical records from the Bours Health Center in Northeast Portland. The record shows an abortion was performed Jan. 30, 2001. She paid $300.
The record also shows she was accompanied by Kristi Oetken, identified on the form as her best friend.
"Cried the entire time"
Tawnya was 26 years old when she met Erickson, then 37.
She was a single mom of a 3-year-old girl, earning $13.77 an hour at a Milwaukie warehouse and living in a small apartment. She let her ex-boyfriend move in to help care for their daughter.
Erickson prospered as president of AFMS, a fast-growing business that advises companies on ways to lower their shipping expenses.
They met at Mount Angel's Oktoberfest in September 2000, according to Tawnya and her friend Joy Johanson, who was there. Erickson handed her his business card. His title -- president -- impressed her. She called him.
They dated, Tawnya said, and spent time on his houseboat at Portland's Macadam Bay Club, cooking meals and playing hide-and-seek with her daughter.
She couldn't recall exactly when she learned she was pregnant, or when she told Erickson. But she did tell him, she said.
"I just remember him being fairly solemn about it. He didn't tell me I had to get an abortion. He didn't force me," Tawnya said.
But he also wasn't going to marry her, she said, and she didn't want to raise another child on her own.
She scheduled the appointment and said she asked Erickson to take her there. He stopped at an ATM to withdraw $300 to give her. During the drive, he told her that because of work he couldn't stay, she said.
Oetken held her hand during the procedure and drove her home afterward.
"She cried the entire time," said Oetken, 36, who is a recruiter for a Portland-area high-tech company. "I was just being a friend but lecturing her at the same time, 'You need to be rid of this guy, and I hope this is the last straw.' "
Oetken said she called Erickson later that day and left him a scathing voice mail.
Johanson, who worked with Tawnya at the time but hasn't stayed in touch, said she never spoke to Erickson about the abortion. But Johanson was relieved when Tawnya told her that Erickson would take her to the clinic and pay for the procedure.
"He took her and dropped her off, so she started freaking out," Johanson said. "It enraged Kristi that he just ditched her like that."
"It made me sick"
The abortion first cropped up two years ago when Erickson ran against Democrat Darlene Hooley.
Tawnya, a registered Republican, said she received a campaign flier with a photo of Erickson next to a baby, touting his endorsement by the anti-abortion group Oregon Right to Life.
The mailer made him out to be "some sort of safe haven for babies, and honestly, it made me sick," she said.
She called Oetken, who sent an e-mail to a handful of news outlets calling Erickson a hypocrite and offering to tell their story. The e-mail was copied to Erickson and Hooley.
Erickson denied the allegation in a statement to reporters who inquired about Oetken's e-mail.
No news stories appeared. Tawnya said she wasn't ready to talk about her abortion then.
Erickson's account
Erickson gives a far different account of events.
He said he thinks that a week or two before the appointment, Tawnya called asking for help with money to see a doctor. A day or two before the appointment, he said, she called to say she had car troubles and needed a ride.
He said he didn't ask her why she needed to see a doctor, saying he didn't want to pry.
"I knew her pretty well but not like -- it wasn't my girlfriend -- but it was somebody that I had a relationship with," Erickson said.
Erickson didn't wait around. "She said her friend was picking her up and they were going to do something at the mall, or something like that."
Erickson said that he does not remember seeing Tawnya again after she left his car.
"I think we talked on the phone once or twice (afterward), and none of this ever came up. (We) never dated again," Erickson said.
The relationship ended, he said, when he learned she was sharing her apartment with her ex-boyfriend.
Photos from a trip
But Tawnya and Johanson said Erickson accompanied them on a Mexican getaway in March 2001, a month after the abortion. She provided documentation and photos of the trip.
Erickson suggested they take a trip as a way to mend their relationship, Tawnya said. They were accompanied by Johanson and three of Erickson's male friends.
Erickson said he believes the Mexico trip took place before the medical appointment, although he couldn't provide a date.
"She flew down there with her girlfriend. I was there with three other friends. It happened to be we were down there around the same time. That's true," he said. "I forget if we were on the same plane or not, or different flights."
Johanson said she went at Erickson's invitation and that he subsidized some of their expenses. She and Tawnya flew to Mexico on the same flight as Erickson.
The women shared one room. The men were in another, she said.
Johanson said Erickson spent much of the trip with his friends, although she recalled Erickson and Tawnya spent at least one night together.
Johanson said it was clear to her the romance between Tawnya and Erickson was done.
"They were over by this trip. It wasn't like they were a couple."
On that point, Erickson agrees. "It wasn't like we were on a boyfriend-girlfriend trip," Erickson said. "We were friends, mostly."
Erickson said he's almost certain he did not spend an intimate evening with Tawnya in Mexico.
"I don't think I did," he said. "I don't believe I did." |
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| SaintJimmy |
| I support all republicans in their efforts to abort their seed. |
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| JTProcess |
when choosing which party to vote for in elections... I usually go for the one with high moral values... they tell me that's what makes America great... even though they don't actually practice the values, it's ok because I like people to tell me how to live and then do the opposite of that.
I'm quite comfortable with that type of situation... |
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| WillowGlen |
The clueless "I didnt know what the money was for" excuse. If the Reps were still in charge he could head up the Iraq financial cash distribution plan.
So the game is will the sheep
A. Ignore this thread entirely
or
B. Try to change the subject by pointing out what they claim a Democrat did at some point and time?
Place your bets |
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| zimmie |
| She sounds like a lying skank.......She has no proof of his knowledge of the abortion......just her "version" of it........she goes to Mexico with him as a friend?.......BWAAAAAAAA.......dismissed.... |
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| WillowGlen |
Damn How could I forget
C. Smear the source |
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| FUPA |
Quote: Originally posted by WillowGlen
Damn How could I forget
C. Smear the source |
or.....
D. Ignore the facts |
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| zimmie |
| still don't know what the problem is for you liberals....I thought murdering babies was between a woman and her doctor......he wasn't even there, what's he got to do with it? |
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| LickInfectedAss |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
She sounds like a lying skank.......She has no proof of his knowledge of the abortion......just her "version" of it........she goes to Mexico with him as a friend?.......BWAAAAAAAA.......dismissed.... |
Hey dumbass...NEWSFLASH:
During the primary, this story was trotted out by Mannix, the Republican opponent.
Republicans in the area, Republican VOTERS, do not dispute the story. They're arguing that he should BOW OUT before the election.
http://nwrepublican.blogspot.com/20...es-forward.html
So YOU look like a complete idiot...and uninformed, but what's new...keep gassin it up, gasbag. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
still don't know what the problem is for you liberals....I thought murdering babies was between a woman and her doctor......he wasn't even there, what's he got to do with it? |
You're acting stupid again, huh?
Or....maybe it's not an act? |
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| SaintJimmy |
Zimmie just got owned by a guy with 21 posts.
shocker. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
still don't know what the problem is for you liberals....I thought murdering babies was between a woman and her doctor......he wasn't even there, what's he got to do with it? |
Liberals don't believe abortion is murder, but pro-life Republicans like Mike Erickson do. So in other words, in erickson's own rationale...he gave $300 and pressured his gf into murdering his baby. |
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| zimmie |
| You guys have offered no proof of any of it.......Should he step aside....thats a decision for him and the Party.....Junior makes no point other than someone competing for the election is critical of his conduct......nice Blog Junior, you'll fit in here well, there are many infected asses for you to lick |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
You guys have offered no proof of any of it.......Should he step aside....thats a decision for him and the Party.....Junior makes no point other than someone competing for the election is critical of his conduct......nice Blog Junior, you'll fit in here well, there are many infected asses for you to lick |
he's a baby-killer, and you're an asshole. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
"Those who preach morality the loudest, often have the most dirt to hide."
-KVK
I know I've said it before but it rings true time-after-time. |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull
"Those who preach morality the loudest, often have the most dirt to hide."
-KVK
I know I've said it before but it rings true time-after-time. |
Yeah, your a regular genius.......dope... |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
You guys have offered no proof of any of it....... |
"Her story is backed up by medical and other records, and the accounts of two friends, one of whom was with her at the abortion." |
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| Marinolaw |
| zimmie, it was an abortion clinic, there were probably people picketing it, he was fucking her. Did you believe Monica Lewinsky? or Paula Jones? . Your blindness is frightening |
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| Tomofnnh |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
Zimmie just got owned by a guy with 21 posts.
shocker. |
:lol: |
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| WillowGlen |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
Zimmie just got owned by a guy with 21 posts.
shocker. |
The shocker is that it took that long. Zimmies easier to own than a TV from Aarons. |
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| acefree |
why do they stick up for this guy? they should want to trash him twice as hard, because it goes against everything they believe. the mindset of "i blindly follow and blindly defend republicans, because i am a republican" , is the reason why the party is so weak now.
in 09 when dems control all branches of gov, they can blame themselfs for it. |
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| MissingMentalPatient |
| At least he was hetero. |
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| Rush Has AIDS |
Quote: Originally posted by acefree
why do they stick up for this guy? they should want to trash him twice as hard, because it goes against everything they believe. the mindset of "i blindly follow and blindly defend republicans, because i am a republican" , is the reason why the party is so weak now.
in 09 when dems control all branches of gov, they can blame themselfs for it. |
Why is it a shock? This has been the mantra for the Republicans for years now.
Preach loudly, tell everyone else how to live their lives, adn then do the exact opposite. We've seen the President do it for his entire term. We've seen right wing media constantly shoot themselves in the foot this way.
It would surprise me more if the Republicans here, and elsewhere, would call for this man tos tep down. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by acefree
why do they stick up for this guy? |
Mostly because of #4, "Blindness To One’s Own Failings And To The Failings Of Authority Figures Whom They Respect".
The Congressman is a "daddy-figure" to these retarded right-wing authoritarian personalities like zimmietard. And "Daddy" can do no wrong. :hitler:
Fucking Cunts.
Significant Correlations Of RWAs (Right Wing Authoritarians):
Altemeyer discovered a wide range of correlations over the years, which can be organized into four general categories. (The Authoritarian Specter)
1: Faulty reasoning — RWAs are more likely to:
* Make many incorrect inferences from evidence.
* Hold contradictory ideas leading them to ‘speak out of both sides of their mouths.’
* Uncritically accept that many problems are ‘our most serious problem.’
* Uncritically accept insufficient evidence that supports their beliefs.
* Uncritically trust people who tell them what they want to hear.
* Use many double standards in their thinking and judgments.
2: Hostility Toward Outgroups — RWAs are more likely to:
* Weaken constitutional guarantees of liberty such as the Bill of Rights.
* Severely punish ‘common’ criminals in a role-playing situation.
* Admit they obtain personal pleasure from punishing such people.
* Be prejudiced against racial, ethnic, nationalistic, and linguistic minorities.
* Be hostile toward homosexuals.
* Volunteer to help the government persecute almost anyone.
* Be mean-spirited toward those who have made mistakes and suffered.
3: Profound Character Attributes — RWAs are more likely to:
* Be dogmatic.
* Be zealots.
* Be hypocrites.
* Be absolutists
* Be bullies when they have power over others.
* Help cause and inflame intergroup conflict.
* Seek dominance over others by being competitive and destructive in situations requiring cooperation.
4: Blindness To One’s Own Failings And To The Failings Of Authority Figures Whom They Respect— RWAs are more likely to:
* Believe they have no personal failings.
* Avoid learning about their personal failings.
* Be highly self-righteous.
* Use religion to erase guilt over their acts and to maintain their self-righteousness.
RWA is also correlated with political conservatism — not so much at the level of ordinary voters, but with increasing strength as one moves from voters to activists to office holders, and then from lower- to higher-level officeholders. (The Authoritarian Specter)
In one part of his summation, Altemeyer wrote that RWAs are more likely to be: "Conservative/Reform party (Canada) or Republican Party (United States) lawmakers who (1) have a conservative economic philosophy; (2) believe in social dominance; (3) are ethnocentric; (4) are highly nationalistic; (5) oppose abortion; (6) support capital punishment; (7) oppose gun-control legislation; (8) say they value freedom but actually want to undermine the Bill of Rights; (9) do not value equality very highly and oppose measures to increase it; (10) are not likely to rise in the Democratic party, but do so among Republicans." (The Authoritarian Specter) |
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| Fdubya247 |
"(8) say they value freedom but actually want to undermine the Bill of Rights;"
NCMike69 says what? |
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| JUST1COMMENT |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
still don't know what the problem is for you liberals....I thought murdering babies was between a woman and her doctor......he wasn't even there, what's he got to do with it? |
And what was Bob Barr's excuse?
The GOPers who are against gays are closet cases (Larry Craig, Patrick Henry)
The GOPers who claim family values, don't practice it in their own lives (Newt Gingrich)
The GOPers who claim to be for severe punishment for drug possession, usually partake (Rush Limbaugh)
The GOPers who preach about the evils of vices (like gambling) are usually addicts (Bill Bennett)
Add abortion.
HYPOCRITES. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by JUST1COMMENT
Add abortion.
HYPOCRITES. |
....hypocrisy is one of their "Profound Character Attributes". (#3)
Cunts. |
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| guayuque |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
Mostly because of #4, "Blindness To One’s Own Failings And To The Failings Of Authority Figures Whom They Respect".
The Congressman is a "daddy-figure" to these retarded right-wing authoritarian personalities like zimmietard. And "Daddy" can do no wrong. :hitler:
Fucking Cunts.
Significant Correlations Of RWAs (Right Wing Authoritarians):
Altemeyer discovered a wide range of correlations over the years, which can be organized into four general categories. (The Authoritarian Specter)
1: Faulty reasoning — RWAs are more likely to:
* Make many incorrect inferences from evidence.
* Hold contradictory ideas leading them to ‘speak out of both sides of their mouths.’
* Uncritically accept that many problems are ‘our most serious problem.’
* Uncritically accept insufficient evidence that supports their beliefs.
* Uncritically trust people who tell them what they want to hear.
* Use many double standards in their thinking and judgments.
2: Hostility Toward Outgroups — RWAs are more likely to:
* Weaken constitutional guarantees of liberty such as the Bill of Rights.
* Severely punish ‘common’ criminals in a role-playing situation.
* Admit they obtain personal pleasure from punishing such people.
* Be prejudiced against racial, ethnic, nationalistic, and linguistic minorities.
* Be hostile toward homosexuals.
* Volunteer to help the government persecute almost anyone.
* Be mean-spirited toward those who have made mistakes and suffered.
3: Profound Character Attributes — RWAs are more likely to:
* Be dogmatic.
* Be zealots.
* Be hypocrites.
* Be absolutists
* Be bullies when they have power over others.
* Help cause and inflame intergroup conflict.
* Seek dominance over others by being competitive and destructive in situations requiring cooperation.
4: Blindness To One’s Own Failings And To The Failings Of Authority Figures Whom They Respect— RWAs are more likely to:
* Believe they have no personal failings.
* Avoid learning about their personal failings.
* Be highly self-righteous.
* Use religion to erase guilt over their acts and to maintain their self-righteousness.
RWA is also correlated with political conservatism — not so much at the level of ordinary voters, but with increasing strength as one moves from voters to activists to office holders, and then from lower- to higher-level officeholders. (The Authoritarian Specter)
In one part of his summation, Altemeyer wrote that RWAs are more likely to be: "Conservative/Reform party (Canada) or Republican Party (United States) lawmakers who (1) have a conservative economic philosophy; (2) believe in social dominance; (3) are ethnocentric; (4) are highly nationalistic; (5) oppose abortion; (6) support capital punishment; (7) oppose gun-control legislation; (8) say they value freedom but actually want to undermine the Bill of Rights; (9) do not value equality very highly and oppose measures to increase it; (10) are not likely to rise in the Democratic party, but do so among Republicans." (The Authoritarian Specter) |
Interesting post. Nice. |
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| guayuque |
| I left the GOP this year after being a member for 27 years. Couldn't stomach the hypocrisy and scumbags any further. |
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| zimmie |
| I don't condone his behavior, all I'm saying is this is a he said, she said, story. She says he knew he was paying for an abortion, he says he didn't........she went with her gf, not him to the clinic...somebody is not being honest, but there's nothing in the story that proves anything....but then again, lynch mobs never seem to need any of that.... |
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| artechba |
| Hypocrisy will kill GOP. If this guy wasn't running on pro-life ideals there would be nothing wrong with him. I'm really not surprised that our resident republicans chose to attack this woman instead of trashing this hypocrite bastard. No wonder their brand is DEAD |
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| artechba |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
I don't condone his behavior, all I'm saying is this is a he said, she said, story. She says he knew he was paying for an abortion, he says he didn't........she went with her gf, not him to the clinic...somebody is not being honest, but there's nothing in the story that proves anything....but then again, lynch mobs never seem to need any of that.... |
if she asks you for that amount of money (average abortion price in US is just about around that number) and goes to a doctor, what do you think is going to happen?
BTW, I don't like abortion but that doesn't mean I should take another woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her body. |
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| notoka |
"How come when it's us it's an abortion and when it's a chicken it's an omelet? Are we so much better than chickens all of a sudden?"
RIP George
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
if she asks you for that amount of money (average abortion price in US is just about around that number) and goes to a doctor, what do you think is going to happen?
BTW, I don't like abortion but that doesn't mean I should take another woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her body. |
i don't know what abortions cost and nothing in the article indicates she told him thats why she was going to the doctor..... |
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| acefree |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
if she asks you for that amount of money (average abortion price in US is just about around that number) and goes to a doctor, what do you think is going to happen?
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this is my main reason for opposing an abortion ban.
because ppl like this congressman, and ppl like howard stern, will still be able to pay some private dr to get one.
but ppl like richard christy, and ppl like some ghetto black girl that already has 6 kids she cant afford, wont.
my 2nd main reason is that im for smaller fed gov, it should be a state issue.
wasnt that a conservative value? |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmietard
i don't know what abortions cost and nothing in the article indicates she told him thats why she was going to the doctor..... |
....ever the goose-stepping apologist.
Congrats. You are a worm. |
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