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| bigcat07 |
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The latest hit to the economy could come from state houses and city halls as state and local governments across the nation find themselves in their worst budget crisis in years due to the economic slowdown.
With revenue from sales and income taxes falling and property tax declines looming on the horizon, states, cities and towns have already laid off tens of thousands of government employees and many expect more job cuts ahead.
The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, a public employees union, says about 45,000 government layoffs have been announced this year and far more are likely in the months ahead as public officials struggle with trying to balance their budgets.
All but four states are set to begin their new fiscal years on July 1, which means that tough decisions will have to be made soon. Economists say that cutbacks in jobs and spending by local governments could be a major drag on the overall economy in the last half of this year.
"This isn't a wrecking ball to a healthy economy, but it could be the straw that broke the camel's back," said Bob Brusca, economist with FAO Economics in New York.
There are 29 states, including California, Florida and Ohio, facing a combined budget shortfall of at least $48 billion in the fiscal year that starts July 1, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP), a liberal think tank.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/23/new...sion=2008062304 |
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| WillowGlen |
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| zimmie |
| looks like they'll be raising taxes on the poor too, just as Obama will if elected........ |
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| WillowGlen |
| Zimmie right there with the heat reversal deflection. How many times are they going to bluff with that losing hand before they stop trying to play it. |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by WillowGlen
Zimmie right there with the heat reversal deflection. How many times are they going to bluff with that losing hand before they stop trying to play it. |
how else are they going to provide services?
the same way they did it last time...raise everyone's taxes.....watch and learn |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by bigcat07
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The latest hit to the economy could come from state houses and city halls as state and local governments across the nation find themselves in their worst budget crisis in years due to the economic slowdown.
With revenue from sales and income taxes falling and property tax declines looming on the horizon, states, cities and towns have already laid off tens of thousands of government employees and many expect more job cuts ahead.
The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, a public employees union, says about 45,000 government layoffs have been announced this year and far more are likely in the months ahead as public officials struggle with trying to balance their budgets.
All but four states are set to begin their new fiscal years on July 1, which means that tough decisions will have to be made soon. Economists say that cutbacks in jobs and spending by local governments could be a major drag on the overall economy in the last half of this year.
"This isn't a wrecking ball to a healthy economy, but it could be the straw that broke the camel's back," said Bob Brusca, economist with FAO Economics in New York.
There are 29 states, including California, Florida and Ohio, facing a combined budget shortfall of at least $48 billion in the fiscal year that starts July 1, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP), a liberal think tank.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/23/new...sion=2008062304 |
You mean bloated and leviathan government entities might have to get smaller and maybe a little more efficient??? *******NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*****
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What is this world coming too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| zimmie |
| I thought liberals loved smaller government? |
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| bigcat07 |
| i agree the fed is a huge bloated turd thanks to bush, the wingers, rethugs, thumpers, and his bastard cronies cooking up shit agencies like homeland security. WTF? locally, those gov jobs help people pay the bills, put food on the table, and maintain a civilized society. the first cuts are stuff like social services, mental health, CPS (i.e. the things that keep bad shit from going down) |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| its not beecause of teh econ states are having trouble..it comes from over employing your offices expensive computers..using apples and not dell. they spend like crazy how didthey think it would last unfortunatly their stupidity will affect americans who really need services. |
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| im_highonhash |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
its not beecause of teh econ states are having trouble..it comes from over employing your offices expensive computers..using apples and not dell. they spend like crazy how didthey think it would last unfortunatly their stupidity will affect americans who really need services. |
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| betabryan |
| They should have spread the pain. Don't lay off anyone. Just rollback salaries 10% for everyone. Not that's public employee union solidarity! |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Quote: Originally posted by betabryan
They should have spread the pain. Don't lay off anyone. Just rollback salaries 10% for everyone. Not that's public employee union solidarity! |
That's already happening in the federal government -- some law enforcement agencies under HOMELAND SECURITY took a 10 percent decrease in pay because all of the money is going to "the war efforts in Iraq" (read, to line the already stuffed pockets of Bush/Cheney cronies and their no-bid contracts).
The Republican Culture of Corruption hurts America, never again.
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| BuddyChrist |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
You mean bloated and leviathan government entities might have to get smaller and maybe a little more efficient??? |
This should be a winner. Explain to me how paying someone federal unemployment insurance is more efficient for the US economy than their working in a local government position?
Exactly how much smaller do you think local governments should be? Should we cut the fire department first, or the water treatment system? |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull
That's already happening in the federal government -- some law enforcement agencies under HOMELAND SECURITY took a 10 percent decrease in pay because all of the money is going to "the war efforts in Iraq" (read, to line the already stuffed pockets of Bush/Cheney cronies and their no-bid contracts).
The Republican Culture of Corruption hurts America, never again.
:rolleyes: |
you have a link to those law enforcement agencies taking a 10% decrease in pay? |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
you have a link to those law enforcement agencies taking a 10% decrease in pay? |
Sure, here ya go stupid:
FROM: GOVERNMENT EXECUTIVE MAGAZINE
"Agency to eliminate millions in retention allowances"
By Jonathan Marino
jmarino@govexec.com
November 29, 2006
The Homeland Security Department's Federal Protective Service recently announced that it plans to end a retention allowance program that benefits hundreds of police and investigators, as it continues to fight a funding shortfall.
Officials with FPS and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, of which FPS is a part, informed regional directors, inspectors and police officers over the holiday weekend that group retention allowances will be discontinued for law enforcement personnel at the GS-4 through GS-12 levels.
The change will take effect on Jan. 6, 2007, ICE Deputy Assistant Secretary for Management Theresa Bertucci and FPS Acting Director Dean Hunter said in a memorandum.
"As you know," the memo stated, "efforts have been under way to identify strategies for FPS to operate within the revenue it collects for mission-essential services provided."
The move sparked outrage at one FPS union office. Ronald Greenhill, regional vice president of the American Federation of Government Employees National Homeland Security Local 918, told union members in a memorandum that the retention allowance cut represents an "insult" and an "attack" on FPS officers and investigators.
"I have a wife, kids and payments; the loss of the retention pay will greatly affect how I am able to maintain my current way of life," Greenhill wrote. He encouraged "every single one of" the union members to begin a campaign of daily calls to ICE and DHS leadership and to their elected representatives, to try to reverse the decision.
The retention allowances were first offered in 2002 in an effort to keep FPS police and investigators from taking other jobs or leaving the agency, and have been included in eligible employees' paychecks for the last five years. They are bonuses equivalent to between 5 and 10 percent of FPS workers' pay, an ICE spokesman said.
The retention allowances currently cost the agency about $3 million per fiscal year, according Dean Boyd, the spokesman. The decision to eliminate them will affect about 700 police officers and investigators, Boyd said.
Multiple sources said the FPS budget shortfall has grown to $60 million. The agency is responsible for helping secure thousands of federal facilities nationwide, using both federal guards and contractors. Agencies must reimburse FPS for the services, and problems collecting payments have contributed to the shortfall.
The agency was supposed to have delivered by Nov. 1 a memorandum to congressional appropriations committees detailing how its budget problems developed, and how officials plan to resolve them. But multiple Capitol Hill sources confirmed the report has yet to arrive. Boyd said the report is complete, but is undergoing various stages of clearance at multiple agencies.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1106/112906j1.htm |
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| gazill |
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull
That's already happening in the federal government -- some law enforcement agencies under HOMELAND SECURITY took a 10 percent decrease in pay because all of the money is going to "the war efforts in Iraq" (read, to line the already stuffed pockets of Bush/Cheney cronies and their no-bid contracts).
The Republican Culture of Corruption hurts America, never again.
:rolleyes: |
Is this Republican? I'd say Democrats fit this bill as well....
Report: Many managers added to S.F. city staff
Cecilia M. Vega, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 24, 2008
San Francisco has added hundreds of highly paid government managers to the payroll since Mayor Gavin Newsom took office four years ago, a new city report has found - a revelation that frustrates labor union leaders as they brace for scores of low-level city workers to be laid off in coming months as officials struggle to balance a massive budget deficit.
Figures released by the controller's office and debated Monday during a Board of Supervisors budget committee hearing found that the number of city managers has increased by more than 24 percent, or 212 positions, since the 2004-05 fiscal year, the first budget Newsom balanced as mayor.
The increase reflects the growth in members of the San Francisco Municipal Executives' Association, the union that represents city government managers and department heads, most of whom earn more than $100,000 annually.
<< Look up San Francisco's over-$100,000 earners >>
"The mayor's office ... has completely fattened up the top-level positions to the detriment of the folks who are providing services, the folks who are the line workers," said Supervisor Chris Daly, a member of the budget committee. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Quote: Originally posted by gazill
Is this Republican? I'd say Democrats fit this bill as well....
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I dunno anything about SF? Is SF cutting services while throwing billions of dollars at cronies-no-bid contracts to support an unnecessary war that was drummed-up by using lies?
Yeah, it appears that there's a HUGE difference.
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
You mean bloated and leviathan government entities might have to get smaller and maybe a little more efficient??? *******NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*****
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What is this world coming too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
EXACTLY!!! |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by NickNuke
EXACTLY!!! |
All of this cheering coming from the section that elected the creator of the Department Of Homeland Security, a multi-million dollar piece of pork-barrel shit that dwarfs anything that has preceded it.
exactly. |
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| NickNuke |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
You mean bloated and leviathan government entities might have to get smaller and maybe a little more efficient??? *******NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*****
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What is this world coming too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I have a better one for you.
How about abolishing any form of affirmative action where most federal government offices are full of people who CAN'T DO SHIT, and therefore, they need to hire 3 UNQUALIFIED people to deliver the work that one qualified person can do, all in the name of racial diversity.
Give me a fucking break!! |
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| gazill |
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull
I dunno anything about SF? Is SF cutting services while throwing billions of dollars at cronies-no-bid contracts to support an unnecessary war that was drummed-up by using lies?
Yeah, it appears that there's a HUGE difference.
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you are tiresome.... |
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| zimmie |
| There are millions of square footage of government buildings in DC filled with people sitting around on their asses doing nothing as I type. Thats not a Republican or Democrat thing.....thats the federal government.......it will never "change"..... |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
All of this cheering coming from the section that elected the creator of the Department Of Homeland Security, a multi-million dollar piece of pork-barrel shit that dwarfs anything that has preceded it.
exactly. |
Here's your Department of Homeland Security.......tell us which of the agencies you'd like to cut Jimmy
Department Components
The Directorate for National Protection and Programs works to advance the Department's risk-reduction mission. Reducing risk requires an integrated approach that encompasses both physical and virtual threats and their associated human elements.
The Directorate for Science and Technology is the primary research and development arm of the Department. It provides federal, state and local officials with the technology and capabilities to protect the homeland.
The Directorate for Management is responsible for Department budgets and appropriations, expenditure of funds, accounting and finance, procurement; human resources, information technology systems, facilities and equipment, and the identification and tracking of performance measurements.
The Office of Policy is the primary policy formulation and coordination component for the Department of Homeland Security. It provides a centralized, coordinated focus to the development of Department-wide, long-range planning to protect the United States.
The Office of Health Affairs coordinates all medical activities of the Department of Homeland Security to ensure appropriate preparation for and response to incidents having medical significance.
The Office of Intelligence and Analysis is responsible for using information and intelligence from multiple sources to identify and assess current and future threats to the United States.
The Office of Operations Coordination is responsible for monitoring the security of the United States on a daily basis and coordinating activities within the Department and with governors, Homeland Security Advisors, law enforcement partners, and critical infrastructure operators in all 50 states and more than 50 major urban areas nationwide.
The Federal Law Enforcement Training Center provides career-long training to law enforcement professionals to help them fulfill their responsibilities safely and proficiently.
The Domestic Nuclear Detection Office works to enhance the nuclear detection efforts of federal, state, territorial, tribal, and local governments, and the private sector and to ensure a coordinated response to such threats.
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) protects the nation's transportation systems to ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce.
United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is responsible for protecting our nation’s borders in order to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States, while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel.
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services is responsible for the administration of immigration and naturalization adjudication functions and establishing immigration services policies and priorities.
United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE ), the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security, is responsible for identifying and shutting down vulnerabilities in the nation’s border, economic, transportation and infrastructure security.
The United States Coast Guard protects the public, the environment, and U.S. economic interests—in the nation’s ports and waterways, along the coast, on international waters, or in any maritime region as required to support national security.
The Federal Emergency Management (FEMA) prepares the nation for hazards, manages Federal response and recovery efforts following any national incident, and administers the National Flood Insurance Program.
The United States Secret Service protects the President and other high-level officials and investigates counterfeiting and other financial crimes, including financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation’s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure. |
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| CrackHead_Fan |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
I thought liberals loved smaller government? |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Here's your Department of Homeland Security.......tell us which of the agencies you'd like to cut Jimmy
Department Components
The Directorate for National Protection and Programs works to advance the Department's risk-reduction mission. Reducing risk requires an integrated approach that encompasses both physical and virtual threats and their associated human elements.
The Directorate for Science and Technology is the primary research and development arm of the Department. It provides federal, state and local officials with the technology and capabilities to protect the homeland.
The Directorate for Management is responsible for Department budgets and appropriations, expenditure of funds, accounting and finance, procurement; human resources, information technology systems, facilities and equipment, and the identification and tracking of performance measurements.
The Office of Policy is the primary policy formulation and coordination component for the Department of Homeland Security. It provides a centralized, coordinated focus to the development of Department-wide, long-range planning to protect the United States.
The Office of Health Affairs coordinates all medical activities of the Department of Homeland Security to ensure appropriate preparation for and response to incidents having medical significance.
The Office of Intelligence and Analysis is responsible for using information and intelligence from multiple sources to identify and assess current and future threats to the United States.
The Office of Operations Coordination is responsible for monitoring the security of the United States on a daily basis and coordinating activities within the Department and with governors, Homeland Security Advisors, law enforcement partners, and critical infrastructure operators in all 50 states and more than 50 major urban areas nationwide.
The Federal Law Enforcement Training Center provides career-long training to law enforcement professionals to help them fulfill their responsibilities safely and proficiently.
The Domestic Nuclear Detection Office works to enhance the nuclear detection efforts of federal, state, territorial, tribal, and local governments, and the private sector and to ensure a coordinated response to such threats.
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) protects the nation's transportation systems to ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce.
United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is responsible for protecting our nation’s borders in order to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States, while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel.
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services is responsible for the administration of immigration and naturalization adjudication functions and establishing immigration services policies and priorities.
United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE ), the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security, is responsible for identifying and shutting down vulnerabilities in the nation’s border, economic, transportation and infrastructure security.
The United States Coast Guard protects the public, the environment, and U.S. economic interests—in the nation’s ports and waterways, along the coast, on international waters, or in any maritime region as required to support national security.
The Federal Emergency Management (FEMA) prepares the nation for hazards, manages Federal response and recovery efforts following any national incident, and administers the National Flood Insurance Program.
The United States Secret Service protects the President and other high-level officials and investigates counterfeiting and other financial crimes, including financial institution fraud, identity theft, computer fraud; and computer-based attacks on our nation’s financial, banking, and telecommunications infrastructure. |
I would tell every single one of those fucking leeches to get off my tit and get a real job.
Every single one of them. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Quote: Originally posted by gazill
you are tiresome.... |
So is watching my fellow countrymen who seem to enjoy taking it in the ass from the bush administration and not have the balls to fight back.
Faggots.
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