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| im_highonhash |
by the 4th of july. And no matter what people say, I put all of the blame on GW bush. He has ties in the oil business, including stocks along with dick cheney owning haliburton, which is in charge of the oil fields in iraq(btw, where the fuck is that oil, if we are in control of those fields?) and the last report I saw on yahoo news, all of the major oil companies have made over 50 billion in profits, just in the 1st quarter of the year(jan, feb, mar.) with exxon making about 13 billion itself, meaning by 2009 they should have made around 60 billion dollars just in profit. It really makes me sick, because living in the bay area, we pay top prices for everything. I mean it costs 4 dollars just to cross a fucking bridge, on top of sales, and state taxes.
And to top it off, bush could have been out of office in 2004, but as usual the american public are some of the dumbest people on the planet. |
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| fastfingersfunk |
| i could point out out about 4 or 5 myths in that post but i'll refrain because i'm sure it will be responded to with more myths. |
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| im_highonhash |
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
i could point out out about 4 or 5 myths in that post but i'll refrain because i'm sure it will be responded to with more myths. |
you really should take W'S cock out of your mouth, it has been proven he has fucked up everything he has touched, no matter what you want to believe.
He went to war with a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, because he said they had nuclear weapons, which they never had.
We still have not found Osama bin laden, with bush even trying to throw out that" we don't need osama anymore", and as usual, idiots like you buy into this shit.
We manage to go to war in iraq, a war that should have taken 6 months tops, and made it stretch out 4+ years.
keep defending bush, it just makes you look dumber and dumber by the minute. |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
i could point out out about 4 or 5 myths in that post but i'll refrain because i'm sure it will be responded to with more myths. |
4 or 5 ?.......you're being kind |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmietard
4 or 5 ?.......you're being kind |
4 or 5 dollars? You're probably right....
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| thoroldjames |
it's $5 a gallon here now :)
If I don't smile I'm gonna stab myself in the eye with a pencil |
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| Colin Bowell |
| it's $3.79 - 3.87 here... no way it's hitting $5 a gallon here by next Friday. |
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| VacateTheWord |
The answer to soaring gas prices is very simple -
Drill here.
Drill now.
Pay less. |
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| jigzaw |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
The answer to soaring gas prices is very simple -
Drill here.
Drill now.
Pay less. |
I'm not opposed to this drilling, but isn't it more accurate to say-
Drill here.
Drill now.
Pay less 10 years from now.
Not a drop of new oil would be seen for several years, so how would this lower prices? |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Colin Bowell
it's $3.79 - 3.87 here... no way it's hitting $5 a gallon here by next Friday. |
Where's "here" dipshit? |
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| Mynd4life |
| I think that moronic assfuck GW Bush WANTS Gas to be around 8 bucks a gallon when he leaves office. His approval rating is at a laughable 26 percent right now, it HAS to be among th lowest Presidential approval ratings of all time. And with all the talk and worry of what may or may not happen to Obama with a attempt on his life, its hard to belive NO ONE has taken a crack at GW with the way things have spiraled so far out of control under his watch. |
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| Zoomies |
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
i could point out out about 4 or 5 myths in that post but i'll refrain because i'm sure it will be responded to with more myths. |
Agreed, seems to have left out the "we are going to lower the price of gas campaign promise" from the equaly useless democrats. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Anyone who thinks more drilling will drop prices is a fucking retard.
More drilling means more profits. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Look at the Middlemen, look at the middlemen, look at the middlemen!
Its where the costs are being driven. Wall Street is the culprit!
Drilling off shore ius just an attempt at locking up rights at a cheaper price now than when it comes time do do. The companies have enough leases onshore that they could drill for years before they would need to go off shore.
Its WALL STREET that is causing the day to day price SURGE! |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
The answer to soaring gas prices is very simple -
Drill here.
Drill now.
Pay less. |
That may help a few cents in about a decade.
Great plan. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| IN LOS ANGELES GAS IS 4.78 PER GALLON |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
Anyone who thinks more drilling will drop prices is a fucking retard.
More drilling means more profits. |
Conversely, using your logic, less drilling (lowering the supply) should not raise the prices then. Would you agree with that? |
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| Colin Bowell |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
Where's "here" dipshit? |
I don't want you in town, so I'm passing on giving out that info. |
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| Stickman |
| I thought the problem was that environmentalists haven't allowed any gasoline refineries? How is drilling going to solve that problem? |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Conversely, using your logic, less drilling (lowering the supply) should not raise the prices then. Would you agree with that? |
No.
Drilling is not the problem.
It's refining capacity, and the lack of viable alternatives. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| AND DON'T FORGET DESIGNER GASOLINE ..MOST STATES HAVE DIFF STANDARDS SO THEY ALL NEED DIFF GRADES |
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| zimmie |
| our refining capacity has not declined in the last year and consumption has declined as prices have risen. Why have prices continued to rise?.....look at the price per barrel.... |
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| sternowitz |
People mention that there hasn't been a new refinery in 25 or 30 years, but no one mentions that dozens of refineries have closed their doors.
The thing about drilling now is not what it seems. The US govt already leases a huge fucken chunk of the coastline to oil companies to drill. The oil companies don't drill this area to capacity, they are not even at 50% of capacity, but they want the other leases to the coastline. Not so they can drill now, but because to make more money down the road. As I always said, this is not a supply or demand problem. The saudis can increase oil, but he ones who own the contracts- the big banks are pushing up the price. Fuck off vacant you don't know shit. |
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| Greengoblin |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
our refining capacity has not declined in the last year and consumption has declined as prices have risen. Why have prices continued to rise?.....look at the price per barrel.... |
SPECULATORS MAYBE??? |
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| Billyfromsphily |
| ITS WALL STREET! The offshore issue is just a smoke screen to keep you from the reality of the increase. |
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| NoName |
| It should be $10 a gallon! The Europeans have been paying big money at the pump for over 20 years. Saudi Arabia is going to start producing more so I'm sure the price will...... :jj: ..........lower.....isn't that what you right-wing yahoos thought a week ago...... :jj: :jj: :jj: ....I'm sorry I can't keep a straight face. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
our refining capacity has not declined in the last year and consumption has declined as prices have risen. Why have prices continued to rise?.....look at the price per barrel.... |
:jj: uh, yeah. isn't that interesting :jj: |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
It should be $10 a gallon! The Europeans have been paying big money at the pump for over 20 years. Saudi Arabia is going to start producing more so I'm sure the price will...... :jj: ..........lower.....isn't that what you right-wing yahoos thought a week ago...... :jj: :jj: :jj: ....I'm sorry I can't keep a straight face. |
The price of gas in Europe is high due to the taxes on it.
Taxes that pay for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. |
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| NoName |
Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphily
The price of gas in Europe is high due to the taxes on it.
Taxes that pay for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. |
I have no problem with that but my point is that people assume that by SA producing more oil, the price will come down, which is untrue. |
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| zimmie |
| Will prices go up if they produce less? |
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| NoName |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Will prices go up if they produce less? |
The only way that oil prices drop is when alternative sources of energy become more available. The more options, the cheaper the price. I'm not that smart but sometimes I feel like a genius on this site. |
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| im_highonhash |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
No.
Drilling is not the problem.
It's refining capacity, and the lack of viable alternatives. |
never was a problem before. |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Conversely, using your logic, less drilling (lowering the supply) should not raise the prices then. Would you agree with that? |
Here's a great story about your supply and demand , market sets the price, little over a year ago the water company that supplies the water in my area ask consumers to conserve water, and they did, that same company said this year even with new hook ups they didn't sell enough water because residents conserved it....
guess what they did ?
Raised the fucking rates ....you can take your unregulated free market and shove it up your ass |
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| Geisheesh |
Here's what's not being done about gas prices;
Every day now, our news programs remind us of the rising price of gas and each
new plateau it reaches. Mixed in with these reports, you'll usually find interviews
with people at gas stations, on the street, in their cars.
The most common thing you hear includes the word "they" i.e. when are "they"
going to do something about it. When are "they" going to start drilling in Alaska. When are
"they" (the oil companies) going to stop what they are doing to us.
Why are we wasting our time waiting for "them" to do something when we the
people can do something right now.
Conserve.
Bush isn't going on TV telling us all to do that. Nobody is.
So, "we" need to do something about it.
Lowering the demand for gas will lower the price.
We should all slow down, drive without our A/C whenever possible. Make sure our
trunks aren't filled with crap. Make sure your tires are properly inflated.
The slowing down part is a no brainer. Back in the 70's when we had our gas
crisis, the speed limit was 55. It's a proven fact that a car get's it's ideal gas milage
when it's going between 55 and 65. But take a trip on the GSP or the turnpike (roads in NJ) any day, and
everybody is averaging around 80 mph. No signs of slowing down, and no PD to enforce it
either.
Secondly, we need to stop building SUV's. People aren't buying them these days
either. We can complain all we want about gas prices, but we also need to look at our own
habits and accept part of the blame for our addiction to SUV's.
Thirdly, America should be making cars to compete with the Honda Civic Hybrid,
which gets a whopping 45 miles per gallon. This shouldn't happen in 5 years, or 10
years...it should start as quickly as possible. What are we waiting for? America can
reclaim many of it's manufacturing jobs if we really make a push to conserve and produce low
milage cars right here at home.
Finally, when was the last time you saw a commercial on TV for a bicycle? The
60's. Maybe the 70's. I truly believe this country needs to make the bicycle cool and hip
again, and promote it's use for those short, less then a mile trips to the store for things
like milk or a DVD from Blockbuster. Too many of us hop in our cars to do things that could
just as easily be done on a bicycle. That's what I do. It's good for the world, and it's
good for you.
So, i'd encourage everybody to make a stand and stop waiting for "them" to do
something. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
I have no problem with that but my point is that people assume that by SA producing more oil, the price will come down, which is untrue. |
I agree. People do not realize how much a hand that Wall Street and the brokers have in this. |
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| Fdubya247 |
From The "Crisis of Confidence" Speech
Jimmy Carter delivered this televised speech on July 15, 1979.
....We ourselves are the same Americans who just ten years ago put a man on the Moon. We are the generation that dedicated our society to the pursuit of human rights and equality. And we are the generation that will win the war on the energy problem and in that process rebuild the unity and confidence of America.
We are at a turning point in our history. There are two paths to choose. One is a path I've warned about tonight, the path that leads to fragmentation and self-interest. Down that road lies a mistaken idea of freedom, the right to grasp for ourselves some advantage over others. That path would be one of constant conflict between narrow interests ending in chaos and immobility. It is a certain route to failure.
All the traditions of our past, all the lessons of our heritage, all the promises of our future point to another path, the path of common purpose and the restoration of American values. That path leads to true freedom for our nation and ourselves. We can take the first steps down that path as we begin to solve our energy problem.
Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation, and it can also be the standard around which we rally. On the battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and we can seize control again of our common destiny.
In little more than two decades we've gone from a position of energy independence to one in which almost half the oil we use comes from foreign countries, at prices that are going through the roof. Our excessive dependence on OPEC has already taken a tremendous toll on our economy and our people. This is the direct cause of the long lines which have made millions of you spend aggravating hours waiting for gasoline. It's a cause of the increased inflation and unemployment that we now face. This intolerable dependence on foreign oil threatens our economic independence and the very security of our nation. The energy crisis is real. It is worldwide. It is a clear and present danger to our nation. These are facts and we simply must face them.
What I have to say to you now about energy is simple and vitally important.
Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation. The generation-long growth in our dependence on foreign oil will be stopped dead in its tracks right now and then reversed as we move through the 1980s, for I am tonight setting the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day.
Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow. These quotas will ensure a reduction in imports even below the ambitious levels we set at the recent Tokyo summit.
Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from unconventional gas, from the sun.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter.../ps_crisis.html
So was Carter a prophet, or just an honest man of intelligence and integrity, trying to serve his country....? Wake up, Fucktards.
You are all just reich-wing DUPED SUCKERS. |
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| Geisheesh |
| Conservatives and Evangelicals are the death of America |
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| mr wrong |
To idiots like zimmie, the energy crisis was Carters fault.
Could you imagine were we'd be today energy-wise if we took his lead? |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by mr wrong
To idiots like zimmie, the energy crisis was Carters fault. |
....they are mindless thralls who believe what they are told to. |
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| zimmie |
you were shitting your pants and saying sketty when Carter was president....you weren't waiting 3 hrs for a tank of gas or staying home from work because you had no gas to go anywhere...how about 18-21% mortgages...thanks Peanut Boy
no wonder that dipshit is your hero......... |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmietard
you were shitting your pants and saying sketty when Carter was president....you weren't waiting 3 hrs for a tank of gas or staying home from work because you had no gas to go anywhere... |
What did Carter have to do with it? Did he start the Iran/Iraq war? No.
But Dumbya started an Iraq "war"....and look what we have now....
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Quote: Originally posted by zimmietard
no wonder that dipshit is your hero......... |
:bigcry:
"WAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAHHH....!!! My retarded world-view is debunked everyday....!!!! WAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAHHH....!!!"
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| artechba |
| I miss those days when main headlines were about our president getting a BJ. I think gas was $0.99 |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
The only way that oil prices drop is when alternative sources of energy become more available. The more options, the cheaper the price. I'm not that smart but sometimes I feel like a genius on this site. |
a genius would have at least answered the question asked...post #31 |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmietard
you were shitting your pants and saying sketty when Carter was president....you weren't waiting 3 hrs for a tank of gas or staying home from work because you had no gas to go anywhere... |
What did Carter have to do with it? Did he start the Iran/Iraq war? No.
But Dumbya started an Iraq "war"....and look what we have now....
:opps:
Quote: Originally posted by zimmietard
no wonder that dipshit is your hero......... |
:bigcry:
"WAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAHHH....!!! My retarded world-view is debunked everyday....!!!! WAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAHHH....!!!"
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Irrelevant Member
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
I miss those days when main headlines were about our president getting a BJ. I think gas was $0.99 |
Do you mean the 1990s - when Al Qaeda attacked US interests at will because the President was too preoccupied with getting a bj? |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
If only "liberals" had been running this country for the past 30 years....instead of this conservative/corporate abomination.
:mad: [/B] |
Yes, good old days -
Jackass. |
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| artechba |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Do you mean the 1990s - when Al Qaeda attacked US interests at will because the President was too preoccupied with getting a bj? |
I'm sorry. How many Americans died in those attacks? 3000? What about soldiers? 4000?
Yes, I'll repeat, I miss those days when our citizens and soldiers didn't die because of incompetency at the highest levels |
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| zimmie |
| ignoring terrorism for 8 years led to 9-11 |
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| Fdubya247 |
Hey Vacunt and zimmiecunt....are your pea-brains able to pick out the common denominator to spikes in oil???
Carter had nothing to do with the oil crisis, but he wanted to ensure it never happened again.
Bush and the GOP on the other hand, have almost everything to do with our current crisis, and they want to make it worse!
Fucking DUPED SUCKERS!!!!
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmieTARD
ignoring terrorism for 8 years led to 9-11 |
Wrong. The Bush Cabal ignoring what the previous administration said, not to mention their own PDB's is well documented.
LIAR. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheTurd
Jackass. |
SUV's were big in the '70's...?!?!?!
You can't even make a retaaaaaded debunked point without exposing that you are dumb as shit.
Idiot. |
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| mr wrong |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Yes, good old days -
Jackass. |
Since your retarded cousin zimmie can't answer, maybe you can:
How was Carter responsible for the gas crisis? |
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| acefree |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
AND DO'T FORGET DESIGNER GASOLINE ..MOST STATES HAVE DIFF STANDARDS SO THEY ALL NEED DIFF GRADES |
my man makes yet another excellent point.
if there were less blends, it would be cheaper. |
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| mr wrong |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
you were shitting your pants and saying sketty when Carter was president....you weren't waiting 3 hrs for a tank of gas or staying home from work because you had no gas to go anywhere...how about 18-21% mortgages...thanks Peanut Boy
no wonder that dipshit is your hero......... |
How was ANY of this Carters fault? Does that mean that today's gas prices are Bush's (your dipshit hero) fault? I'd love to see you make the distinction between the two.
Since when did any president set mortgage interest rates? Does that mean we can blame Bush for today's mortgage woes, and foreclosures?
You can't have it both ways, stupid. |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Do you mean the 1990s - when Al Qaeda attacked US interests at will because the President was too preoccupied with getting a bj? |
:lol: So we weren't attacked at will on 9/11 when your hero was on vacation in Crawford fucking Texas ? |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Yes, good old days -
Jackass. |
Is this supposed to be a picture from the 70's?
It has cars from the 90's in it you dope! |
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| mr wrong |
| So, zimmie, can't back up your bullshit? |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by mr wrong
So, zimmie, can't back up your bullshit? |
Why start now? |
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| zimmie |
| Look it up yourself, there are over a million hits to "Carter's gas crisis" |
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| Fdubya247 |
:lol:
DEBUNKED faggot!
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| mr wrong |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Look it up yourself, there are over a million hits to "Carter's gas crisis" |
So in other words, you've got nothing.
Shocking.
How many hits do you think Bush's failed policies received? By your standard, I guess it makes all those true too, right? |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
you were shitting your pants and saying sketty when Carter was president....you weren't waiting 3 hrs for a tank of gas or staying home from work because you had no gas to go anywhere...how about 18-21% mortgages...thanks Peanut Boy
no wonder that dipshit is your hero......... |
You seem to forget the hand that the previous REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION had in the
gas crisis.
Henry Kissinger and Grumman Aviation wanted to sell F-14 Tomcats to the Shaw of Iran so as to lessen the cost per copy of the plane to the US Navy. Iran had the money and wanted the prestige of the lastest and best fighter in the world. They also were right on the border of, REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL EVIL EMPIRE; THE SOVIET UNION?
One of the by products was Kissingers agreement with the Shaw that America paid TOO LOW A PRICE FOR OIL! The Republicans looked the othe rway as OPEC squeeezed prices up in the aftermath of the deal. We got a first rate plane at a cheaper price per copy and a deterent on the border of the Soviet Union and the Iranians got more money for their crude oil and that lessened the price for the planes for them.
Now do you understand the cause of the gas crisis in the 70's??????
It started before CARTER GOT into Office and was handed the shitty deal that NIXON and KISSENGER had made in the intersts of BIG BUSINESS!
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