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| NoName |
| A MoveOn.org meeting/rally in Hoboken tonight. I will let you guys/gals know how it goes. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Have fun.
Congratulate them on that wonderful "General Betray Us" ad - they are a real patriotic bunch. |
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| NoName |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Have fun.
Congratulate them on that wonderful "General Betray Us" ad - they are a real patriotic bunch. |
You may not agree with them but that does not take away from their patriotic spirit. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Have fun.
Congratulate them on that wonderful "General Betray Us" ad - they are a real patriotic bunch. |
Only people who agree with you are patriots, huh?
I don't fuckin' think so! |
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| NoName |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Only people who agree with you are patriots, huh?
I don't fuckin' think so! |
Walking through life with blinders on. (That would be a great title of a book) |
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| jigzaw |
Of course at the time it was the Right wingers who opposed fighting the Nazi's and the Democrats who were interventionist. |
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| Anogram |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
Walking through life with blinders on. (That would be a great title of a book) |
It's like driving forward with the rear view mirror. As long as the road behind you is in line then you must be headed in the right direction. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
Walking through life with blinders on. (That would be a great title of a book) |
I think NCMORON06 has already sold that title to Random House. |
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| Fdubya247 |
jigzaw,
You stupid twat. Ike was the exact opposite of the puppet Petraeus.
Not comprehending the gist of the case against the puppet, and not understanding what made Ike so outstanding a citizen, is just further exposure of your own ignorance.
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| Billyfromsphily |
Ike warned us about the privitazation of WAR, but nobody remembers him!
Look what the BUSH Family has done in outsourcing .
It used to be by the lowest bidder, but now no bid is the standard.
Would you buy a house like that? |
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| salafibrigades |
| Tell George Soros to fuck off. |
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| lojopgh |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
A MoveOn.org meeting/rally in Hoboken tonight. I will let you guys/gals know how it goes. |
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| fastfingersfunk |
Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphily
Ike warned us about the privitazation of WAR, but nobody remembers him!
Look what the BUSH Family has done in outsourcing .
It used to be by the lowest bidder, but now no bid is the standard.
Would you buy a house like that? |
it seems obvious that you know nothing about government contracting. no-bid conracts have been around for much longer than bush, even the first one. no-bid contracts are given on different occasions which apperently skew peoples vision of a "no-bid" contract. if there is a custom product being made and it's deemed that only one manufacturer has the skills and knowhow to make it, it will be a no-bid. if there is a follow-on contract to something a company has been supplying and has a good track record, it will be a no-bid. if there is an instance where the job task is so big that only one company has enough tools and manpower to do the job, it will be a no-bid. there are many factors to a no-bid. and if you are a good salesman, you can find your way around a no-bid by finding the decision makers and trying to influence them.
and it's didn't always use to be the "lowest bidder" either. lowest bidding wars wound up many times in unsatisfactory performance and goods because obviously, the bidders would use the cheapest suppliers, which usually meant cheaper product. most contracts that have goods on them these days specifially say they take into account the price AND the quality of the product.
comparing buying a house to buying a fleet of armored humvees is not even on the same scale. |
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| NoName |
Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphily
I think NCMORON06 has already sold that title to Random House. |
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| its-just-a-ride |
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
it seems obvious that you know nothing about government contracting. no-bid conracts have been around for much longer than bush, even the first one. no-bid contracts are given on different occasions which apperently skew peoples vision of a "no-bid" contract. if there is a custom product being made and it's deemed that only one manufacturer has the skills and knowhow to make it, it will be a no-bid. if there is a follow-on contract to something a company has been supplying and has a good track record, it will be a no-bid. if there is an instance where the job task is so big that only one company has enough tools and manpower to do the job, it will be a no-bid. there are many factors to a no-bid. and if you are a good salesman, you can find your way around a no-bid by finding the decision makers and trying to influence them.
and it's didn't always use to be the "lowest bidder" either. lowest bidding wars wound up many times in unsatisfactory performance and goods because obviously, the bidders would use the cheapest suppliers, which usually meant cheaper product. most contracts that have goods on them these days specifially say they take into account the price AND the quality of the product.
comparing buying a house to buying a fleet of armored humvees is not even on the same scale. |
You're not defending all the stolen $$billions by these asshole war profiteers are you?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/7444083.stm |
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| fastfingersfunk |
not at all. but this has nothing to do with who wins contracts and who doesn't, open bid contracts or no-bid contracts. if a contractor abuses their position, they should be held accountable. 100%.
and you say "stolen". the "stealing" in this article is pertaining to money from the iraqi ministry, their own money, not US. it seems to me that you are comprehending this article to mean that 23 billion US dollars were picked up and stolen in iraq. that's not what it is saying, but it is trying to consfuse the reader into thinking that.
and anyone one making a profit is a profiteer. if you sold the DoD bulletproof vests, or helped in communications, or setting up CCTV around the green zones, in essence you are a war profiteer. but i think you are out of line calling them "assholes". |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
You may not agree with them but that does not take away from their patriotic spirit. |
They took an honorable, successful General and make him an object of ridicule - MoveOn.org is a disgrace and they are by no means patriots. If they were they would be rooting for our success, not questioning every fact that comes from General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
it seems obvious that you know nothing about government contracting. no-bid conracts have been around for much longer than bush, even the first one. no-bid contracts are given on different occasions which apperently skew peoples vision of a "no-bid" contract. if there is a custom product being made and it's deemed that only one manufacturer has the skills and knowhow to make it, it will be a no-bid. if there is a follow-on contract to something a company has been supplying and has a good track record, it will be a no-bid. if there is an instance where the job task is so big that only one company has enough tools and manpower to do the job, it will be a no-bid. there are many factors to a no-bid. and if you are a good salesman, you can find your way around a no-bid by finding the decision makers and trying to influence them.
and it's didn't always use to be the "lowest bidder" either. lowest bidding wars wound up many times in unsatisfactory performance and goods because obviously, the bidders would use the cheapest suppliers, which usually meant cheaper product. most contracts that have goods on them these days specifially say they take into account the price AND the quality of the product.
comparing buying a house to buying a fleet of armored humvees is not even on the same scale. |
Armored Humvees.......Thats a good one. 2 Years to get armor kits to Iraq. I guess there was no hurry to protect anyone in what was essentially a weapons carrier.
Did we send jeeps up against the Germans in WW2?
Do some more homework on NO Bids you are only touching on it!
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
They took an honorable, successful General and make him an object of ridicule - MoveOn.org is a disgrace and they are by no means patriots. If they were they would be rooting for our success, not questioning every fact that comes from General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker. |
Please. He is a proven political puppet of the Bush Cabal with admitted presidential aspirations.
But of course you know that....
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
Please. He is a proven political puppet of the Bush Cabal with admitted presidential aspirations.
But of course you know that....
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Have you ever attended a MoveOn rally or donated to this disgraceful organization?
...and don't lie. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Have you ever attended a MoveOn rally or donated to this disgraceful organization?
...and don't lie. |
I will answer you right after you admit you know Petraeus is just a puppet. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
I will answer you right after you admit you know Petraeus is just a puppet. |
General Petraeus is not a puppet and it is disgraceful to say as much. So I guess you won't answer - I'll take that as a yes.
Where's NoName? I suppose the closing ceremony (American flag burning) ran a bit long. |
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| Rush Has AIDS |
Quote: Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
it seems obvious that you know nothing about government contracting. no-bid conracts have been around for much longer than bush, even the first one. no-bid contracts are given on different occasions which apperently skew peoples vision of a "no-bid" contract. if there is a custom product being made and it's deemed that only one manufacturer has the skills and knowhow to make it, it will be a no-bid. if there is a follow-on contract to something a company has been supplying and has a good track record, it will be a no-bid. if there is an instance where the job task is so big that only one company has enough tools and manpower to do the job, it will be a no-bid. there are many factors to a no-bid. and if you are a good salesman, you can find your way around a no-bid by finding the decision makers and trying to influence them.
and it's didn't always use to be the "lowest bidder" either. lowest bidding wars wound up many times in unsatisfactory performance and goods because obviously, the bidders would use the cheapest suppliers, which usually meant cheaper product. most contracts that have goods on them these days specifially say they take into account the price AND the quality of the product.
comparing buying a house to buying a fleet of armored humvees is not even on the same scale. |
I guess that explains doing soldier's laundry for $100/bag, and giving tainted water to the troops because it's more cost effective than bringing in clean fresh water. Looks like we're not really taking price and quality into account at all.
Great way to Support the Troops.
Yes, there were no bid contracts in the past, but what you forget that only until recently, war profiteering was considered immoral and illegal. Luckily we have the Bush Administration to change all of that.
Who are the contractors loyal to? The safety and welfare of our troops, or the stockholders and the bottom line?
You only need to open your eyes to answer that question. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
General Petraeus is not a puppet |
:lol::lol::lol:
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| its-just-a-ride |
Quote: Originally posted by NoName
A MoveOn.org meeting/rally in Hoboken tonight. I will let you guys/gals know how it goes. |
Hope it went well mate. :D |
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