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| ArivacaCharlie |
:rolleyes:
Another example of insignificant and useless posting from the Retarded Right. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| national polls are meaningless. State polls are the only indicator of anything. |
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| Spinboy |
I'm still amazed that we have an unpopular war, a slow economy and an ostracized republican President and McCain is still holding on.
It just shows you how out of touch with America that the far has become. If they would have nominated even a slightly moderate, qualified candidate, this election would've been a landslide. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Spinboy
I'm still amazed that we have an unpopular war, a slow economy and an ostracized republican President and McCain is still holding on.
It just shows you how out of touch with America that the far has become. If they would have nominated even a slightly moderate, qualified candidate, this election would've been a landslide. |
Obama is more moderate than you guys would like everybody to believe.
But, he brings a certain "complexion" to the race that, admit it or not, scares a lot of people.
Otherwise, the race would most certainly already be over.
That's okay, though.
The more the Nation gets to compare, the further ahead Senator Obama will get. |
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| bruce9432 |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
national polls are meaningless. State polls are the only indicator of anything. |
That is code for "only polls that I agree with have any meaning" |
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| bruce9432 |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Obama is more moderate than you guys would like everybody to believe.
But, he brings a certain "complexion" to the race that, admit it or not, scares a lot of people.
Otherwise, the race would most certainly already be over.
That's okay, though.
The more the Nation gets to compare, the further ahead Senator Obama will get. |
He is dead even and giving ground daily, 110 more days and Obama will be voting for McCain |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by bruce9432
That is code for "only polls that I agree with have any meaning" |
So we don't elect people based on the Electoral College? We go by popular vote nationwide? |
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| A mysterius man |
What's amazing is that any McCain snaffoo is gone from the mind of the media completely in about two days. The same is not true for Obama. How long was everyone crying about the Wright incident?
God damn America, a country full of whiny crybabies that are imagining 'things.' |
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| im_highonhash |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Obama is more moderate than you guys would like everybody to believe.
But, he brings a certain "complexion" to the race that, admit it or not, scares a lot of people.
Otherwise, the race would most certainly already be over.
That's okay, though.
The more the Nation gets to compare, the further ahead Senator Obama will get. |
it's not his views, its his skin color. |
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| bruce9432 |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
So we don't elect people based on the Electoral College? We go by popular vote nationwide? |
Well if you want to go that route Obama couldn't win any of the primary states needed to win the presidency to wit; California, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Michigan, Florida. Gee, they all voted for someone other than Obama. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by bruce9432
Well if you want to go that route Obama couldn't win any of the primary states needed to win the presidency to wit; California, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Michigan, Florida. Gee, they all voted for someone other than Obama. |
That was primary results, jackass, not state polls. You think Obama won't win California or New York? Keep dreaming. Obama is leading in every Kerry state and several Bush states. |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
So we don't elect people based on the Electoral College? We go by popular vote nationwide? |
ask Al Gore whiners..... |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by im_highonhash
it's not his views, its his skin color. |
I am absolutely convinced of that.
Obama has been a near perfect candidate. The only thing standing in the way is generations full of the inacurate idea of white superiority that has been ingrained in so many Americans.
We may be about to turn the corner and it will be a great historic moment for all of us. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
ask Al Gore whiners..... |
For the record, I supported Bush's win that year although I certainly did not vote for him. The electoral college only went against the popular vote twice in history. All in all, not a bad record.
Would a popular vote be better?
Probably.
Will it happen?
Probably not. |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
national polls are meaningless. State polls are the only indicator of anything. |
Until you post/cheer about a national poll which shows Barack Hussein Obama with a supposed huge lead...like the newsweek nonsense from a few weeks ago...
Fucking hypocrite....just like your Messiah..Barack Hussein Obama. |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by A mysterius man
What's amazing is that any McCain snaffoo is gone from the mind of the media completely in about two days. The same is not true for Obama. How long was everyone crying about the Wright incident?
God damn America, a country full of whiny crybabies that are imagining 'things.' |
I think its a bit more than a 'snafu' to attend a church which teaches a Marxist based theology, and have the preacher of that church, and your mentor (in your own words), preach in screaming anti AMerican rants, have your kids taught in that church, and be married in that church... FOR 20 YEARS. Thats WAY beyond a 'snafu'
Not to mention your supposed inability to throw your mentor under the bus (like disowning his own family...) ...up and until you throw him under the bus because it will benefit you politically...
CHange we can believe in. |
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| artechba |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
I think its a bit more than a 'snafu' to attend a church which teaches a Marxist based theology, and have the preacher of that church, and your mentor (in your own words), preach in screaming anti AMerican rants, have your kids taught in that church, and be married in that church... FOR 20 YEARS. Thats WAY beyond a 'snafu'
Not to mention your supposed inability to throw your mentor under the bus (like disowning his own family...) ...up and until you throw him under the bus because it will benefit you politically...
CHange we can believe in. |
Cut Obama some slack - Obama was never in attendance when Wright went off on one of his diatribes, never read the church newsletters that contained an op-ed from a leader of Hamas as well as racist essays written by Wright. Obama said that he was shocked when he saw the You Tube clips of Wright's hate-laced rants and, ultimately, he didn't know Wright as well as he thought he did. ;) |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
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| artechba |
| Go on brush your shoulders off Barack :) |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Cut Obama some slack - Obama was never in attendance when Wright went off on one of his diatribes, never read the church newsletters that contained an op-ed from a leader of Hamas as well as racist essays written by Wright. Obama said that he was shocked when he saw the You Tube clips of Wright's hate-laced rants and, ultimately, he didn't know Wright as well as he thought he did. ;) |
You're right....with that all in mind, we must also forget that the reason Wright didn't speak at or attend the announcement of Barack Hussein Obama's presidential campaign was that 'His sermons can get a little rough'.... I guess his memory is quite selective, and based on political expediency....
Change we can believe in... |
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| uhohhotdog |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
You're right....with that all in mind, we must also forget that the reason Wright didn't speak at or attend the announcement of Barack Hussein Obama's presidential campaign was that 'His sermons can get a little rough'.... I guess his memory is quite selective, and based on political expediency....
Change we can believe in... |
You're a MORON. What about Hagee? Where's your answer to that?
You suck. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by bruce9432
He is dead even and giving ground daily, 110 more days and Obama will be voting for McCain |
who are you planning to vote for? |
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| Jon Pop |
| I like John but the only thing keeping him in this race is anti black racism. If obama was white this would all ready be over. He would not have as much black support(but he would still get most of it) but the racist white vote's would be more than enough to offset that. |
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| A mysterius man |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
I think its a bit more than a 'snafu' to attend a church which teaches a Marxist based theology, and have the preacher of that church, and your mentor (in your own words), preach in screaming anti AMerican rants, have your kids taught in that church, and be married in that church... FOR 20 YEARS. Thats WAY beyond a 'snafu'
Not to mention your supposed inability to throw your mentor under the bus (like disowning his own family...) ...up and until you throw him under the bus because it will benefit you politically...
CHange we can believe in. |
Perhaps snafu (thanks for the correct spelling, hah!) was a poor choice of word, but for every such incident on Obama's side, there is an equal incident on McCain's side. Hagee being one example to offset Wright.
For the record, while I'll most likely vote for Obama in this election, it's the election game that interests me most. This shit is chess, not checkers! Though both candidates seem to think they're playing Chutes and Ladders at times. Political strategy is the fun part. I just find it interesting that nobody makes a stink for more than two days over McCain Camp's gaffs. Perhaps it is more a long bleeding process that may do him in. You've got to admit that ObamaCampaign does seem to shrug much of this off with little overall effect. You just have to kind of wait and watch for the next big blow up. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
He's going to be ahead until it's over. McCain POTUS
WHITEMAN!1!!!!! |
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| A mysterius man |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
He's going to be ahead until it's over. McCain POTUS
WHITEMAN!1!!!!! |
White men can't jump (that far ahead) |
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| sixsixsix666 |
| No but we all know the outcome of this election McCain by .... |
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| Da Truth |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
No but we all know the outcome of this election McCain by .... |
:spit: i hope you're still posting under one of your mults when november comes -- just don't be a little bitch and go hide when Obama wins by one of the biggest landslides in American history. :bl: |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by suxsixdix666
No but we all know the outcome of this election McCain by .... |
What's the smaller two-digit number suxsixdix, your IQ or your cock length in millimeters? |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by A mysterius man
Perhaps snafu (thanks for the correct spelling, hah!) was a poor choice of word, but for every such incident on Obama's side, there is an equal incident on McCain's side. Hagee being one example to offset Wright.
For the record, while I'll most likely vote for Obama in this election, it's the election game that interests me most. This shit is chess, not checkers! Though both candidates seem to think they're playing Chutes and Ladders at times. Political strategy is the fun part. I just find it interesting that nobody makes a stink for more than two days over McCain Camp's gaffs. Perhaps it is more a long bleeding process that may do him in. You've got to admit that ObamaCampaign does seem to shrug much of this off with little overall effect. You just have to kind of wait and watch for the next big blow up. |
Hagee does not offset Wright in any way, shape or form. Wright was Barack Hussein Obama's mentor, his pastor, he attended his church for 20 years, was married by him, and allowed his kids to be taught by him. None of that can be said of McCain and Hagee.
THey are both horrible candidates. I support no one in the race, but I will vote against Barack Hussein Obama because he is a marxist. McCain will hopefully only be a 1 term president, and we can get someone much better in 2012. |
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| A mysterius man |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
THey are both horrible candidates. I support no one in the race, but I will vote against Barack Hussein Obama because he is a marxist. McCain will hopefully only be a 1 term president, and we can get someone much better in 2012. |
Simply going by what I've seen you post on this forum, I doubt that any Democratic candidate will be more to your liking. Or are you saying McCain will choose to serve only one term? |
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| Spinboy |
I agree and in the 3 July polls, Obama is up by an average of 2.66%, which is well within the margin of error.
Its amazing that Newsweek can go from a tie in May to Obama +15% in June to Obama +3% in July. That's one poll that should be discounted. |
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| Da Truth |
Quote: Originally posted by Spinboy
I agree and in the 3 July polls, Obama is up by an average of 2.66%, which is well within the margin of error.
Its amazing that Newsweek can go from a tie in May to Obama +15% in June to Obama +3% in July. That's one poll that should be discounted. |
I think being ahead in every single poll greatly diminishes any perception of margin of error. :hw: |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by Spinboy
I agree and in the 3 July polls, Obama is up by an average of 2.66%, which is well within the margin of error.
Its amazing that Newsweek can go from a tie in May to Obama +15% in June to Obama +3% in July. That's one poll that should be discounted. |
CNN 06/26 - 06/29 906 RV 50 45 Obama +5.0
McLaughlin (R) 06/26 - 06/29 1000 LV 46 38 Obama +8.0 |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by A mysterius man
Simply going by what I've seen you post on this forum, I doubt that any Democratic candidate will be more to your liking. Or are you saying McCain will choose to serve only one term? |
I would HOPE he only serves 1 term. If he would make that pledge, it would help him greatly. Especially if he picked a woman as his running mate (Sarah Palin :) ) All those disgruntled Hillary voters would come over without question. |
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| artechba |
In one country, which Newsweek polled in June, the electorate is split R26/D38/I36. In the other country, which Newsweek polled a few weeks later, that country's electorate is split R32/D32/I36.
In one country, polled in June, 84% of the electorate is white. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, 88% of the electorate is white.
In one country, polled in June, 19% of the registered voters are under 40, 39% are between 40 and 59, and 42% are 60 or older. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, only 17% of the registered voters are under 40, 38% are between 40 and 59, and 45% are 60 or older.
In the younger, slightly more racially diverse and much more Democratic country, Barack Obama was supposedly leading by 15 points. In the country that is somewhat older, is somewhat whiter, and is evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, Barack Obama is supposedly leading McCain by only 3 points.
According to Newsweek, comparing these results shows "what a difference a few weeks can make." A more valid conclusion is that it shows what a difference polling two very different countries can make.
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