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| LennyD23 |
Singleton and Kay brought up a good point today during the Yankee game, why weren't the Red Sox dubbed to be the final opponent to play the Yankees in the stadium for this final series?
I would think you guys would want something like this as much as Yankee fans would, the ultimate closure of the stadium that your team was almost as much a part of as the home team itself. There is no doubt that the Red Sox were part of the history more than any other club and it would have made for a more dramatic, entertaining, and emotional final series.
Forget about swapping out the Baltimore series with the Sox, letting the O's play the Jay's, why not just change the previous Yanks/Sox series to Fenway and the final series of the season btween the Yanks/Sox to Yankee Stadium?
It was just a minor mistake by the powers that be, imo, that would have made it all the better.
Oh yea, the opening of the new stadium won't be the Sox, either. It'll be the Cleveland Indians. Go figure. |
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| mobsmith |
| I am guessing that the people who made the schedule expected the Yankees to make the playoffs. |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by mobsmith
I am guessing that the people who made the schedule expected the Yankees to make the playoffs. |
That's a foolish assumption to expect two teams to make the playoffs and meet each other in the ALCS. |
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| Apoc13 |
| we all talked about that the day the schedules came out....retarded....even if the games meant nothing it should have been sox/yanks....and if fenway ever closes it should be the same |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
we all talked about that the day the schedules came out....retarded....even if the games meant nothing it should have been sox/yanks....and if fenway ever closes it should be the same |
Word. :cool:
How retarded is this shit opening up with CLE? |
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| Apoc13 |
| even if it wasn't the last days of yankee stadium, the sox and yanks should end the season with each other....it's just more fun that way |
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| Apoc13 |
| you wonder if boss jr just hates the sox so much he doesn't want them part of all the hoopla either at the end of this season or the start of next |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
you wonder if boss jr just hates the sox so much he doesn't want them part of all the hoopla either at the end of this season or the start of next |
That's defnly possible.
I don't know what execs would think that something like this (ending the old and starting the new w/ the Sox) would be too much for fans to handle, as if our heads would explode or something.
Think about it from a marketing perspective. Sure, it's money without the Sox, but Sox included, end of the season, last game, last hurrah, the national audience would be bigger no doubt, the ad dollars would cost more, the full drama of the season unfolded/ing...
From a fans perspective, maybe a Red Sox player hits the last HR, maybe they win the last game... maybe they win the first game and hit the first HR, effectively reversing the curse... maybe they split various honors as the saga continues...
That's what people on both sides want. |
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| lisaslisas |
| I can't even imagine the cost of the additional security needed for a Yanks/Sox Stadium closer. Emotions would be running high. I think bad things would happen. :( Can't imagine the drama that would ensue if the Sox won the last game ever in the Stadium. :dontknow: Not just inside, but outside as well. |
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| mobsmith |
Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
That's a foolish assumption to expect two teams to make the playoffs and meet each other in the ALCS. |
Never said they would meet the sox in the ALCS, but if they made the playoffs the Yankees would play a team better than the Orioles. |
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| nuge67 |
| It's total BS, it should be the Sox and it should be on the final day of the season. |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by mobsmith
Never said they would meet the sox in the ALCS, but if they made the playoffs the Yankees would play a team better than the Orioles. |
What if it was the Orioles that had made the playoffs and won the division this season? I bet that you didn't think that the Rays were gonna be in first place on Sept 21st and clinch a playoff birth with a win on this day before the season started.
It's not about playing a "better" team, it's about playing a preferred team, and that team is the Boston Red Sox. |
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| sppinach |
MLB really screwed this up.
1.) It should be next weekend.
2.) It should be a rival.
3.) It shouldn't be a night game. Why? So the rest of the eastern time zone coast can see the end. |
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| WhatRUSaying |
The only reason I could see MLB not putting this game on the last day of the season was they want to promote the playoff races that might come down to the wire.
This is a tough spot for this game to go against a Cowboys/Packers matchup.
The Yankee/Oriole game will get some ratings, but the NFL just does better in the US.
I am with most people here in that it should have been NY and Boston at Yankee Stadium on the last day of the regular season. |
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| sppinach |
| The final game for Tiger Stadium was on a 1:00 game on a Monday. Now it wasn't the last game of the season, but it really worked out well. Everyone was able to watch the ceremonies at the end. |
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| PJB22 |
| They didn't schedule the Red Sox to play the final game in Yankee Stadium because because MLB wants the Yankees to win the final game there. |
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| DestroVega |
Quote: Originally posted by PJB22
They didn't schedule the Red Sox to play the final game in Yankee Stadium because because MLB wants the Yankees to win the final game there. |
Damn you are hilarious...
maybe a Letterman appearance in your future... :rolleyes:
MLB has done some weird things with schedules every year, so I'm not surprised. |
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| PJB22 |
Quote: Originally posted by DestroVega
Damn you are hilarious...
maybe a Letterman appearance in your future... :rolleyes:
MLB has done some weird things with schedules every year, so I'm not surprised. |
Wasn't trying to be funny. Makes sense though. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by sppinach
The final game for Tiger Stadium was on a 1:00 game on a Monday. Now it wasn't the last game of the season, but it really worked out well. Everyone was able to watch the ceremonies at the end. |
Who would even give a fuck about that? |
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| Case a Beer |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Who would even give a fuck about that? |
Maybe some of the same kind of people around this website who are getting all emotional about a building in the Bronx closing. |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by PJB22
Wasn't trying to be funny. Makes sense though. |
Not really, as the MLB doesn't give a fuck if the Yankees win their last game in the stadium.
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It's baseball, anybody can win on any day. There is no setting it up just right to guarantee a win. |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by Case a Beer
Maybe some of the same kind of people around this website who are getting all emotional about a building Bronx closing. |
I gave a fuck about Tiger stadium, some classic games played there. |
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| PJB22 |
| When are they going to tear down the old Stadium? Are they keeping it open for tours for a few months? I only got see one game there in 2003 when the Sox won 11-0. I would like to get one more look at this legendary sports mecca before its gone. |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by PJB22
When are they going to tear down the old Stadium? Are they keeping it open for tours for a few months? I only got see one game there in 2003 when the Sox won 11-0. I would like to get one more look at this legendary sports mecca before its gone. |
I believe they are for a little while. |
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| LennyD23 |
I'm feeling a little better about the final game being w/ the Orioles.
Reasons being the Yankees were the Baltimore Orioles before they were the NY Highlanders before they were the NY Yankees.
Another, one of the great moments at the stadium was against the Orioles back when they played after Munson's death. The O's will be remembered as being a big part of the stadium's history in that respect. There's also the Jeffrey Maier thing. :gb:
It can be deemed that the O's are somewhat apropos for the final game, it just woulda been better if it were the Sox. |
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| Apoc13 |
Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
I'm feeling a little better about the final game being w/ the Orioles.
Reasons being the Yankees were the Baltimore Orioles before they were the NY Highlanders before they were the NY Yankees. |
i actually knew that...but it's still not a good reason |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
i actually knew that...but it's still not a good reason |
I knew it, too, but I was having trouble using it to justify playing them in the last game when I started the thread.
I'm in a more forgiving mood tonight. |
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| Apoc13 |
| i'm guessing the average fan doesn't know that and probably doesn't care....i'm sticking with baby steinbrenner just doesn't want the sox involved |
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| LennyD23 |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
i'm guessing the average fan doesn't know that and probably doesn't care....i'm sticking with baby steinbrenner just doesn't want the sox involved |
I'll broker you a deal, lose the rest of your games including the ones in Fenway vs. the Yanks and have the playoff in the Stadium for all the beans. :D |
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| StumpMerrill |
Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
Singleton and Kay brought up a good point today during the Yankee game, why weren't the Red Sox dubbed to be the final opponent to play the Yankees in the stadium for this final series?
I would think you guys would want something like this as much as Yankee fans would, the ultimate closure of the stadium that your team was almost as much a part of as the home team itself. There is no doubt that the Red Sox were part of the history more than any other club and it would have made for a more dramatic, entertaining, and emotional final series.
Forget about swapping out the Baltimore series with the Sox, letting the O's play the Jay's, why not just change the previous Yanks/Sox series to Fenway and the final series of the season btween the Yanks/Sox to Yankee Stadium?
It was just a minor mistake by the powers that be, imo, that would have made it all the better.
Oh yea, the opening of the new stadium won't be the Sox, either. It'll be the Cleveland Indians. Go figure. |
MLB always caters to the Sox. it's why we never got to host them in a home opener after winning 4 WS from '96-'00 but as soon as the Sox won one they hosted us on their home opening day so they could throw their rings in our faces. We also ended '05 ,'96, '92 and '86 at fenway, when is the last time Boston ended a season at Yankee Stadium? 1982. |
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| MLaw |
Quote: Originally posted by mobsmith
I am guessing that the people who made the schedule expected the Yankees to make the playoffs. |
even if that were the case, the SOX and Yanks didn't meet last year, so it's never a given. I can't believe they didn't at minimum finish the season there.
It really was the most idiotic scheduling ever. |
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| Pussah2 |
| Even though the odds are basically zero, I hope the red sox series means something this weekend. Would take a mets sized choke by the red sox for that to happen though |
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| MikeyJJ |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Even though the odds are basically zero, I hope the red sox series means something this weekend. Would take a mets sized choke by the red sox for that to happen though |
Go Tribe!!! |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Even though the odds are basically zero, I hope the red sox series means something this weekend. Would take a mets sized choke by the red sox for that to happen though |
You mean a 2004 Yankee sized choke, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight? :p |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You mean a 2004 Yankee sized choke, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight? :p |
No I mean a mets sized choke like last year and again this year. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
No I mean a mets sized choke like last year and again this year. |
But the Yankees did it in the playoffs...That is the biggest of chokes. Especially with the last 2 games at home :p |
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| Case a Beer |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
But the Yankees did it in the playoffs...That is the biggest of chokes. Especially with the last 2 games at home :p |
But it's not like they had a 3 games to lead or anything. ;) |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
But the Yankees did it in the playoffs...That is the biggest of chokes. Especially with the last 2 games at home :p |
You are doing it again this year. And I was talking a regualr season collapse. We have mentioned this 100 times already. The Mets and/or Yankees are number 1 and number 2 for biggest chokes in baseball history. |
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| steve7968 |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
you wonder if boss jr just hates the sox so much he doesn't want them part of all the hoopla either at the end of this season or the start of next |
boss jr. is a retard |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
You are doing it again this year. And I was talking a regualr season collapse. We have mentioned this 100 times already. The Mets and/or Yankees are number 1 and number 2 for biggest chokes in baseball history. |
Well I was talking post season. :hw: |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Well I was talking post season. :hw: |
i was talking regular season for a miracle to happen for the yankees vs red sox series to mean something |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
i was talking regular season for a miracle to happen for the yankees vs red sox series to mean something |
I would rather have the regular season choke record then the playoff choke record. Especially up 3-0 with the last 2 games at home. |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I would rather have the regular season choke record then the playoff choke record. Especially up 3-0 with the last 2 games at home. |
Losing to the team that ended up winning 8 straight is much worse than what the mets did last year, choking away first place and a playoff spot. :rolleyes: if you do it again this year, the mets get sole position of first |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
Losing to the team that ended up winning 8 straight is much worse than what the mets did last year, choking away first place and a playoff spot. :rolleyes: if you do it again this year, the mets get sole position of first |
Wrong again. Mets can choke away 10 straight years. Still wont touch that October '04 :hw: |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Wrong again. Mets can choke away 10 straight years. Still wont touch that October '04 :hw: |
yeah and the mets still cant touch those octs of 96..98..99.. and 2000..get real dude..the team has to be good enough to have choked..the mets are still the doormats in ny :D |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
yeah and the mets still cant touch those octs of 96..98..99.. and 2000..get real dude..the team has to be good enough to have choked..the mets are still the doormats in ny :D |
You are right. I only dream we could have had the biggest choke in baseball history. Arguably sports history :rolleyes: |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You are right. I only dream we could have had the biggest choke in baseball history. Arguably sports history :rolleyes: |
I agree. Its much better to choke away first place 2 years in a row and to potentially choke away the wild card 2 years in a row than lose the alcs 4 games in a row. The braves and nationals are much better than the red sox. |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
You are right. I only dream we could have had the biggest choke in baseball history. Arguably sports history :rolleyes: |
you only wish your team was ever in the position for anyone to care if they choked or not.. :D |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
I agree. Its much better to choke away first place 2 years in a row and to potentially choke away the wild card 2 years in a row than lose the alcs 4 games in a row. The braves and nationals are much better than the red sox. |
not to mention that they havent won a WS since 86 ( which was a gift from buckner)..meanwhile koaw's will still tell himself that the mets are better then the Yankees :p |
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| MLaw |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
You are doing it again this year. And I was talking a regualr season collapse. We have mentioned this 100 times already. The Mets and/or Yankees are number 1 and number 2 for biggest chokes in baseball history. |
Red Sox 1978 :cheer: |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
you only wish your team was ever in the position for anyone to care if they choked or not.. :D |
Petey cares |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by MLaw
Red Sox 1978 :cheer: |
so the yankees, mets and red sox have the 3 worst collapses in baseball history. Thanks for your honesty |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
meanwhile koaw's will still tell himself that the mets are better then the Yankees :p |
Well considering the Yankees did not beat the Mets head to head, or have a better record then them. I do not think it takes a brain surgeon to put 2 and 2 together. |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by MLaw
Red Sox 1978 :cheer: |
I am pretty sure the angels were up 2 games to none against the brewers in either 82 or 83 in the ALDS and got swept out |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Well considering the Yankees did not beat the Mets head to head, or have a better record then them. I do not think it takes a brain surgeon to put 2 and 2 together. |
wow tell me did the mets beat the Yankees head to head ever before this season..oh and being ahead by 1 game is pretty impressive..especially in that division..keep reaching little guy..maybe someday you can actually sit at the big kids table with Yankees and red sox fans..until then your team is just a never-was :cool: |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
so the yankees, mets and red sox have the 3 worst collapses in baseball history. Thanks for your honesty |
didnt the phillies have a major collapse one year..like in 64 or something?? |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
wow tell me did the mets beat the Yankees head to head ever before this season |
Yes they have. Check your facts, then open mouth :hw: |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
| Only a yankee fan can ignore the present and just talk about the past...Sad!! :rolleyes: |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Only a yankee fan can ignore the present and just talk about the past...Sad!! :rolleyes: |
well mets fans have no real past to cling too..just a couple WS victories in over 40 years..oh and I am not thinking of the past..I am thinking of the 80 million freed up from the payroll this off-season and how could certain players are gonna look in pinstripes next year..meanwhile same old..same old in queens :D |
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| Pussah2 |
ok lets talk the present. You just blew a 3 game lead and if the brewers werent beyond horrible, might lose the wild card as well.
If they dont make the playoffs this year, does Manuel get fired? |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
ok lets talk the present. You just blew a 3 game lead and if the brewers werent beyond horrible, might lose the wild card as well.
If they dont make the playoffs this year, does Manuel get fired? |
you would have to think so..but my question is if the mets dont make the playoffs does omar have some questions to answer..I mean met fans can talk about pavano and his 40 mil over 4 years all they want..but they would have to agree by now that pedros 50+million over 4 years has been a complete disaster also |
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| HappyGoodman |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
not to mention that they havent won a WS since 86 ( which was a gift from buckner)..meanwhile koaw's will still tell himself that the mets are better then the Yankees :p |
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...285560243429315
Funny stuff. |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
you would have to think so..but my question is if the mets dont make the playoffs does omar have some questions to answer..I mean met fans can talk about pavano and his 40 mil over 4 years all they want..but they would have to agree by now that pedros 50+million over 4 years has been a complete disaster also |
omar should be fired if they miss the playoffs. at least cashman made the playoffs every year |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
well mets fans have no real past to cling too..just a couple WS victories in over 40 years..oh and I am not thinking of the past..I am thinking of the 80 million freed up from the payroll this off-season and how could certain players are gonna look in pinstripes next year..meanwhile same old..same old in queens :D |
Yeah spend that $80,000,000 on the best free agents available! I want to continue to see all stars at every position in the bronx!
Why not give CC 8 years and $25,000,000 per?? Sounds like a smart contract to me! :jj: |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
omar should be fired if they miss the playoffs. at least cashman made the playoffs every year |
Cashman has spent BILLIONS since his last ring. Stop talking about GM's being fired.
Worry about your own horrible GM's in Cashman and Tannanbaum. |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Yeah spend that $80,000,000 on the best free agents available! I want to continue to see all stars at every position in the bronx!
Why not give CC 8 years and $25,000,000 per?? Sounds like a smart contract to me! :jj: |
yeah tell us all some more how the pedro 50+ million over 4 years was a great contract.. :p |
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| TruckdriverRick |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Cashman has spent BILLIONS since his last ring. Stop talking about GM's being fired.
Worry about your own horrible GM's in Cashman and Tannanbaum. |
and of course the Yankees have MADE Billions also :D |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by TruckdriverRick
and of course the Yankees have MADE Billions also :D |
actually YES has made the billions! :D |
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