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| Ferraz |
Online streaming is important to me as a listener because I travel alot and I always have my laptop with me so the best way to listen to Sirius, or trestrial radio for that matter, is to stream online. I acknowledge that the streaming allows for piracy and piracy is not right, but lets be honest the piracy is there either way. However if I am allowed to stream then I will buy a Sirius subscription immediately. So in my mind Sirius is losing money from people like me and forcing at least some to consider seeking piracy. To me this is just one side of this complex issue.
What are the thoughts about this?
I have many other thoughts on this issue and hope that others do as well. |
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| Tom from T.O. |
Quote: Originally posted by Ferraz
Online streaming is important to me as a listener because I travel alot and I always have my laptop with me so the best way to listen to Sirius, or trestrial radio for that matter, is to stream online. I acknowledge that the streaming allows for piracy and piracy is not right, but lets be honest the piracy is there either way. However if I am allowed to stream then I will buy a Sirius subscription immediately. So in my mind Sirius is losing money from people like me and forcing at least some to consider seeking piracy. To me this is just one side of this complex issue.
What are the thoughts about this?
I have many other thoughts on this issue and hope that others do as well. |
How do you measure streaming? If Howard could get accuarte figures or trust someone's assesment about this.....one aspect of streaming, and I assume you are talking about paying a fee for it, would be world wide expsoure...this could open the door to the first worldwide radio show, a few Howard scandals and who knows where people start demanding The Show, Sirius signals can be sent anywhwere in the world... |
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| SidekickChuck |
This subject has been discussed somewhat before.
I also agree, that if youre paying for a subscriptoin, and the online streams are available, the stern channel should use it to be able to supply their show to paying customers to give them the absolute best in talk radio anywhere they are. This option would probably greatly increase the subscription rate as well.
The piracy thing will always be an issue like you said. Even without an online stream, someone can easily rip the bradcast from their Sirius radio onto their computer and openly distribute it. But as a paying clustomer, I wouldnt be willing to share shows to non-paying people because I paid my hard earned money to to receive it, and so should they.
Opening an online stream for the channel would be the best thing for Howard100 to do...it would increase their client base everywhere and would allow current subscribers to listen where they may not be able to take their radios. |
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| Ferraz |
| What about podcasting Stern related shows? Has this been discussed? |
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| artiefan711 |
| many people will rely on an internet stream to hear the show, not allowing for an internet stream will be a major achilles heal to the whole move to sirius. i understand the aprehension of doing it online in a stream..priacy, sharing passwords, etc....if sirius can tighten up their security on the streams, it will eliminate some of the potential problems, but seriously, an online stream, in my mind, is essential. |
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| Bart H |
Streaming makes sense as a way to get more people to move to Sirius. I could see lots of people who didn't have Sirius wanting to check out the new Howard unconstrained by the FCC. If the show was streamed, these people could sign up for a free 3 day pass and hear the show. I'm sure a large percentage of them would be impressed and sign up for a subscription.
Without streaming, a huge population of potential subscribers would be lost. |
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| Big Hairy Ball |
Quote: Originally posted by artiefan711
many people will rely on an internet stream to hear the show |
That is because the show has been taken off a number of markets. Everyone can get a radio. There is no excuse, other then the show not being in your market, to say you have to stream.
Now, Sirius doesn’t have that issue. So, there is no reason you need to stream. (You are streaming with a Sirius receiver, but that’s beside the point)
Opening an internet stream is pointless. Let’s face it…. If you are going to do something illegal to get Sirius you would do it whether Sirius allowed an internet stream or not. Maybe you would pay for it, but you would be in the minority. If you want proof just look at P2P file sharing versus programs like iTunes. |
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| JRSweets |
Quote: Originally posted by Big Hairy Ball
Now, Sirius doesn’t have that issue. So, there is no reason you need to stream. (You are streaming with a Sirius receiver, but that’s beside the point) |
What about the people who cannot get reception at work, but have access to the internet. I can currently listen to Howard on FM radio at work, but I can't get sirius reception. |
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| Big Hairy Ball |
Quote: Originally posted by JRSweets
What about the people who cannot get reception at work, but have access to the internet. I can currently listen to Howard on FM radio at work, but I can't get sirius reception. |
Eh, good point. |
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| mikeq1023 |
| i'm with "JRSweets" my office is in the basement of an office building and i can't get any radio down there. i was looking foward to getting sirius on the computer so i could hear howard at work. i have still bought my sirius receiver and it would be nice if i could also hear him at work. |
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| JRSweets |
People talk about the password sharing issue, I for one would not give out my password. The first reason is I am paying for it, and two its the same password for your Account Management Login...
Also the stream could easily be locked down to only allow one login to the streams per username and password. |
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| MrJeff2000 |
One stream per username and password would suck.
If you leave your computer "on" at home, then go to work, you'd be locked out of SIRIUS because that info is "taken" by someone else. |
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| Ferraz |
| Without streaming many listeners will be shut out of Sirius. For me it is the best option. I am sure others feel the same. |
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| Ferraz |
| Has Howard talked about streaming at all? |
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| LIFAN12 |
Quote: Originally posted by Ferraz
Has Howard talked about streaming at all? |
Not really. He plead ignorance the few times callers have asked.
He likewise pleads ignorance for Dish Network ever carrying Howard 100, even though DirectTV just agreed to carry XM with Dopie and Anthony.
There is no contractual reason why Dish or the Internet cannot carry Sirius originated programming.
I wish Howard cared more about this issue!!!  |
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| jqlynch |
Quote: Originally posted by LIFAN12
There is no contractual reason why Dish or the Internet cannot carry Sirius originated programming.
I wish Howard cared more about this issue!!! |
Howard has said in the recent past that rather than listening to the collective voice of the sponsors, on Sirius he'll be depending on listener (read: subscriber) support and input. I think he's expecting and will most likely receive a more thoughtful and insightful response from Sirius subscribers -- after all, we're paying to hear what he's got to say now, so the amount of "ahaha-Stern-you-suck!!" callers should be nearly non-existent.
I think that starting in January, Howard will be more receptive to suggestions like this, when the terrestrial show is out of the picture and he doesn't have to talk around the Sirius programming at all. I'd like to think that after getting some breathing room, he would be considerably more magnanimous towards those who followed him from FM, and would have time to listen to and address ideas and questions. |
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| mrkrispy |
| I signed up for a 3 day pass to see what the shows were like, rebroadcasts, etc.. but the pass isn't valid for anything but music. Sorry Sirius, not the best way to go to get people to jump over.... |
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| j3ff |
Quote: Originally posted by mrkrispy
I signed up for a 3 day pass to see what the shows were like, rebroadcasts, etc.. but the pass isn't valid for anything but music. Sorry Sirius, not the best way to go to get people to jump over.... |
I love people who are stupid like you, come out with a statement like that, which is totally false.
You can hear the howard 100 news on the streamer, its on the "Left" channels.
There is also comedy and other talk radio on the 3 day free trial. |
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| mrkrispy |
nice response ass clown.
From the Sirius FAQ:
19. Is the content you are streaming the same as what I will hear when I subscribe?
Our 100% commercial-free music are available online and are the same as what SIRIUS listeners hear in their vehicles or homes. The SIRIUS news, sports and entertainment channels are not available online – but you may preview samples of their content on the pages themselves.
If I take your enlightening, extremely helpful reply to the SIRIUS site the so-called available comedy channels are just ads for the channels themselves.
if I go to the LEFT section, nothing will load.
Do they not re-air the H100 news? |
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| drkodos |
Quote: Originally posted by LIFAN12
There is no contractual reason why Dish or the Internet cannot carry Sirius originated programming.
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This is true. Seems obvious to me there is another issue behind it and that issue must be money related.
Streaming would be my #1 preferred way to listen to the show. |
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| Dr. Bombay |
| Sooner or later, Sirius and/or Howard will have to allow streaming and, I might add, podcasting. Like the Sirius channels and the In Demand VOD pipeline, streaming and podcasts would allow Howard additional avenues to his reach audience...and additional revenue. Audio is ridiculously easy to pirate. If Howard doesn't stay in control of the distribution of his material across all media platforms, some cyber-pirate will do it for him. |
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| Oh So Much |
| I haven't been able to hear the stream for the past two days. Is it just me? This is killing me! |
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| LIFAN12 |
I can't believe that Howard thinks its the Canadian government that is keeping his channels off the air there, unless there is some technical reason (e.g., they need to add the channels later with an update).
While I am sure that politics plays a big role in getting Sirius up and running in Canada, what with all of the "Canadian content "rules they must endure and such, its Mel Karmazin's call when and if Howard's channels are available in Canada. |
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| frankgrimes |
| All these issues will be resovled in time. Relax boys. Besides once the "walkman" is released it will be easier to listen to Howard (Sirius) on the go. And with the show being repeated again its a second chance to hear or record the show no? |
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| JohnnyLongBone |
the best part of hearing Howard is the fact that it is LIVE. Real time thoughts from Howard are why i'm listening, He's a genius.
i get what i pay for, i got 2 years of Sirius. i also was turned onto Howard by a kid from jersey who used to visit on occations and ALWAYS brought crummy casette tapes he made with a mic in front of his clock radio. some of the best times we had sitting arround the tape player laughing our asses off. that was in 1988.
finally Howard came to maine and i havent missed a show since. Streaming is a great idea, and i'm sure the security is out there to broadcast to potential new Sirius subscribers thru paying customers, say, over the walls of office cubicals, wondering why "jimmy from payroll" is always laughing like a fool in his grind of a job. moral sucks at work without a good dose of Howard's wit and slant on life. i say stream away for us poor schlubbs who all need a lift in mood to survive modern life. my password is mine, but i want all i can get from my subscription. i think being able to stream onto a laptop will only expose more ignorant people to Howards great mind, driving sales.
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| Ferraz |
| I hope that Howard 100 or Howard picks up on this topic. The only way for me to listen to Howard is on my computer at work or while traveling. It also would allow for those with financial troubles to simply buy a subscription and not have to buy the equipment. |
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| Ferraz |
| I think that this is an important issue for many people. Has any caller ever asked Howard about streaming on Sirius or has he made any sort of comment. I know that he didn't like it on FM because of the fact that there was no payment involved with streaming. However if he does not stream with Sirius it will, in my opinion, keep many people from joining Sirius and it also will greatly encourage piracy online where as if the stream is available true fans will pay and listen that way. Otherwise many might be forced to seek piracy as a last resort. |
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