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| mrfrogdaddy |
Let me start by saying the reason I bought a sirius reciever was Stern. I could care less about all the commercial free music stations. Well i was very wrong. During the time that howard 100 is off the air I decided to check out some of the other content. this is amazing. The choices are nearly limitless. I am so pleased with my purchase that i will be giving out recievers as x-mas presents. this is way better than terrestrial(sp?) radio. I will be paying the $500.00 for a lifetime subscription this month. It is so worth it.
Long Live Howard |
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| LIFAN12 |
I bought my Sirius receiver last December, mainly so I wouldn't have to deal with the coming avalanche of new subscribers.
I also was motivated mostly by Howard, but the diverse new music on Sirius has changed my life. :p
I also have Dish Network and can easily listen to the Sirius music stations anywhere in my home. I just wish Howard could make sure he is heard wherever Sirius is available, including Dish Network (like DirecTV is doing with O&A) and Sirius online. :rolleyes: |
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| howardfan |
It says that the subscription is for the life of the radio? Does this mean you cant buy a new model without a new subscription?
There are no answers on their site |
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| The Butler |
Quote: Originally posted by howardfan
It says that the subscription is for the life of the radio? Does this mean you cant buy a new model without a new subscription?
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Yep, it's the life of the unit. |
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| SteelRat |
| I thought that you could transfer the subscription to another unit a certain amount of times. |
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| landrvr1 |
I was going to get this lifetime thing, but boy-o-boy is it a rip off. My Starmate Replay will be obsolete in a couple of years - if not earlier. New units will be out soon enough that will feature more replay time, the ability to store hours and hours worth of programming, downloading to PC, etc (the S50 is the beginning of this, but a sad beginning...). The advertising of the 'lifetime' subscription is misleading. Only when you read the fineprint do you see that it's for the radio only. Lifetime indeed, haha.
It's like buying a new standard definition TV, getting a lifetime cable subscription for THAT unit only; and then discovering that HDTV is out. You're stuck with your old TV. |
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| Kablemodem |
| You can transfer the lifetime sub to a new receiver for an additional fee - $75, I believe. I don't think the lifetime is the best option for most people, though. I go yearly. |
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| NWSternGirl |
First off, go to siriusbackstage.com for tons of info to your concerns/questions.
The Lifetime Sub can be switched to 3 diff radios for a $75. Regardless, use Mutt's promo code in this forum to get 10% off of your subscription fees by purchasing subscription gift cards! If you choose the Lifetime Sub, you'll save $50! If you choose any other payment plan, saving 10% still helps. |
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| workingStiff |
| I got Sirius mainly for Howard. I now find that I can't listen to 'old-fashioned' radio. It just, pretty much, sucks. |
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| landrvr1 |
$75 bucks!!!?? Whew! Bargain! Deal! Sign me up!
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| sbornia |
Howdy folks -
Just got my radio and have a question about subscription plans. I know the pre-paid annual plan saves a month's fee, but wasn't sure if there are any other benefits beyond that. Anyone have thoughts on the pros and cons of going month-to-month vs. annually?
Steven |
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| boombox |
Quote: Originally posted by sbornia
Howdy folks -
Just got my radio and have a question about subscription plans. I know the pre-paid annual plan saves a month's fee, but wasn't sure if there are any other benefits beyond that. Anyone have thoughts on the pros and cons of going month-to-month vs. annually?
Steven |
Until you're certain that you're keeping the radio that you bought, go month-to-month. For the first 30-90 days, it's worth it until you're convinced you're keeping the receiver you bought. |
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| Phatmeat |
I was considering purchasing the lifetime subscription for $500 but I was only willing to do it if I was certain there were no strings attached. After speaking to a Sirius representative I learned that there's a few important things you should know about this plan that they don't tell you.
Basically, the lifetime plan applies for the life of your receiver. If your receiver was to break for example and is no longer under warranty (and most things tend to break after the warranty period is up), you could have the plan tranferred to a new receiver but for a fee of $75 . Furthermore, you can only do this a maximum of 3 times . Meaning that after 3 times of transferring your plan to a new receiver you would lose your lifetime subscription plan.
Apparently the lifetime plan can be misleading and if you pay attention to the small text below the plan that says "Go on and on and on and on" it says "Subscribe for the lifetime of your radio!", not for your lifetime.
I was seriously considering purchasing the lifetime subscription as I figured that after a period of about 4 years or so this plan would start to pay off, although after learning about these new details I started to reconsider.
What's everybody else's take on this? |
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| iam72hrstv |
Purchase of a lifetime subscription for me was the easy choice:
(1) I got 1 player for each car I own. I got a new Toyota Camry XLE 2006 chosen new for the best gas milage for any Sirius ready car other then the Lexus Hybrid SUV Robin Quivers got. My 2nd car, a Honda CRV, will share a reciever with my home. I got a Sanyo package radio with home and car dock and boombox purchased at Sirius.com.
(2) The Car only radio I got in my Toyota will live the life of the car because I plan to only change radios when my car is salvaged. I have a small business and I write off Depreciation, Milage, and Interest on my taxes. I optomize fisical responsibility by using my cars until they no longer run (10-15 years). Then a new car will get the transfer of the lifetime plan.
(3) The lifetime plan will no longer be available after 12/30/05. Due to the forseeable price increases of Satelite Radio Subscriptions in future years, a lifetime subscription is an increasing asset. For example Cable and Satelite TV rases rates once a year and averages industry wide 6% per year. Sirius will cost in future years at this rate of apreciation:
2006: $13.75 per month $165 per year
2010: $16.50 per month $198 per year
2020: $29.50 per month $354 per year
(4) People who buy Sirius this year are Early Adopters of new technology. This type of consumer tends to buy the newest model of technology at more frequent rates than average consumers. I speculate people who subscribe to Sirius this year will own 2 recievers on average within the first five years of Sirius ownership. The second add on subscription will be the newest technology and is cheaper per month and cheaper to re-activate as buying new technologies accellerates in future years for these consumers.
(5) All you can eat service packages in the tellecommunications industry are rare or nonexsistant. There are no other tellecommunication or broadcast subscription services offering lifetime subscriptions. This is a rare event in having a lifetime sub option. Similar service plans include: Hotmail free lifetime email also see Yahoo, ICQ, and Google. |
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| Phatmeat |
| You know what's really strange? My Sirius receiver worked right out of the box and I don't even have a subscription or anything. I get all the stations (including Howard 100) and I haven't even paid a dime. What's going on? Is this just temporary or what? |
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| iam72hrstv |
Quote: Originally posted by Phatmeat
You know what's really strange? My Sirius receiver worked right out of the box and I don't even have a subscription or anything. I get all the stations (including Howard 100) and I haven't even paid a dime. What's going on? Is this just temporary or what? |
Here is my analysis of Technical programming specifications of a brodcast satelite service as it relates to Sirius equipment and subscriptions.
When I picked up my new Toyota Camry XLE, my service technician that installed my Sirius JVC system stated all Sirius radios are set to a default home state out of the box. This default state is common for many consumer electronics including tellevisions and Cable Boxes. For example, a Sony TV has a home default state including preprogramming for Antanna reception. Also, a cable box home state can be preset by the Cable System warehouse to recieve all services (called going out hot), basic channels, or no services. A Cable System has a tool (agent) set in the cable box controler at the head end to send a global ip flush normally set at 12:01 am EST to reset all cable boxes with updated programming each day. This glogal will remove the home default state and change the recieved subscription to Non-Pay status or Disco Status if a hot box is not purchasing cable services in the Cable Billing System. Also, a signal can be sent to instantly upsate services on a Cable Box (called a hit).
As with Cable boxes, a Sirius Reciever is set to Test Mode (per Toyota) as a default state, out of the box. The Sirius global flush changes the reciever the following evening (12:01 am) after the reciever is first plugged in, and this global hit makes the reciever tune to channel 184 (this is the carrier frequency for global refreshes and hits in which a Sirius reciever gets reprogrammed) and the readout on the screen will state ACTIVATE. I notice some channels have worked until I activated the unit like Howard 100, 184, etc. Also, I live in a nieghboorhood with tall trees and my Sirius Reciever gets reset to test (default) some evenings if my car lacks clear view of the southern sky. I have to call Sirius for a hit to reset my subscription. |
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| Phatmeat |
| OK, so my free listening experience finally ended tonight. The audio stopped playing and on the screen it said "Subscription Updated Press Any Key to Continue" and after hitting a key it said "Call 1-888-539-Sirius to Subscribe". Did this happen for anyone else? |
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| iam72hrstv |
| Your Sirius got reset after the first day. It went from test mode to disco/non pay status. Now you must subscribe to get servcice. |
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| winamq |
| I bought the lifetime also. I am sorta thinking it was a mistake. I guess, if I even keep my unit over 3 years it pays for itself. Also I believe you can transfer 3 times, so I guess this subscription should last a little while. |
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| Ozzy5150 |
So if you buy the Lifetime membership and your reciever lasts more than 3.5 years, it has paid for itself? Right?
What about additional units? If I got a lifetime for my first unit, and then bought another one down the road, would that second unit go for the full $13 a month or would it count as an addition to the main subscription and be $6.99 per month?  |
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| King Of All Chris's |
| I've had my lifetime for one year now. I got a nice home unit that sits in the same spot so I figure it will last a long time. |
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| winamq |
| maybe I should change my lifetime to an in home device and buy a seperate one for the road. |
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| iam72hrstv |
| It is smart to have one for home and the road. I miss programs if I am not in my car. I can stream at work but for home and at play (the Beach, Basketball, camping, etc.) I needed a second reciever. |
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| gunder |
| Anybody think that after they get more subscribers the monthly fee will actually go down?? |
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| tjenk1124 |
I went for the yearly plan... signed up earlier this month.
If this is anything like cable tv, fee can only go up. I bet in a year or two Sirius comes up with a premium tier of service, which of course H100 will be moved to. |
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| boombox |
Quote: Originally posted by gunder
Anybody think that after they get more subscribers the monthly fee will actually go down?? |
Absolutely not. They've already talked about rate hikes in the future. It's not a matter of "if", but a matter of "when". |
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| angrypirate |
| Thanks everyone. After reading everyones posts I decided to go with the lifetime membership. I ordered $500 worth of programming cards and paid $450 after the SFN discount. I'm looking foward to listening to Howard & commercial free music for years to come. Thanks again! |
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| gunder |
Quote: Originally posted by tjenk1124
If this is anything like cable tv, fee can only go up. I bet in a year or two Sirius comes up with a premium tier of service, which of course H100 will be moved to. |
Good points. |
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| iam72hrstv |
| I don't think he will be a premium tier but commercials will air all day. Not as many as Old Fashioned radio. |
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