Life Found On Mars, Time To Stop Going To Church Now.

Penn Jillette said reading the bible when he was a kid going to Sunday School made him an atheist. I'm not exactly an atheist (as he is) but I agree 100% that reading and studying the bible will make sure you reject the christian religion.

The story of Noah alone is enough to know that if the judeo-christian-islamic god is real, he is the most evil being humanity has ever interacted with.

I was raised in pretty religious household. I would compare my bible lessons to what I was watching on Star Trek. I remember asking the Sunday School teacher if Jesus could have been from outer space like a klingon or some shit. The minister came in to talk to us. I don't remember what he said. I also learned that most of these good people can't help it. They have a limit switch called faith. Sometimes they lose their faith, but not from anything you have to say to them.

Will scientists please figure out what planet the Republicans came from so that we can start shipping them back?

I'm with Penn. It was reading the Bible that started me toward atheism. There are so many contradictions and errors that is clear that it is a collection of sheepherders tales. Then studying the history of how books were voted in or out of the bible it became clear that religion is a construct of man not God. The final step was watching Carl Sagan's Cosmos where he clearly explained that not only is there no evidence for a god but that there is no need for one to explain the universe.

The universe and nature is spectacular enough that it seems a "sin" to invoke an imaginary god to take the credit (as well as the easy way out).

This woman is great

Tourette and weirdo are also great

We don't know that we don't matter. The human experience as we know it now suggests that matter can only be 2 things. organic or inorganic. That would suggest that organic matter, in what ever form, came out of the big bang along with the inorganic. Or that organic material can somehow be materialized. Fucking mind blowing.

Organic matter is essentially a collection of non-organic matter that made into a living organism. The composite atoms are the same. The big bang is thought to have created almost entirely hydrogen and some helium. All heavier matter was created inside stars. We are all truly star stuff.

I'm not a morning person, I'm a little more agnostic in the evening lol

We are 60% water (females funny enough are 55%) and science suggests water on Earth arrived from asteroids a loooong time ago. We are out of this world!

Can that be done, or is that a theory. I seriously don't know. I had it explained to me once that science has come up with a theory of how life spawned on our planet, but really no explanation of the source.

An Ignorant Atheist derives his view not from his own intellect but by criticizing what others can not explain and since nothing is perfect the Ignorant Atheist tends to belief that nothing is – including God and since no data or evidence is present it can be safely assumed that there is no perfection at all. In these terms God becomes a figure that the weak minds of the low IQ religious person conjures up for his own understanding and satisfaction. Such Theists can’t explain the entirety of the complex system and events around us and since God must know and control all – if he doesn’t that means God must be evil. Given that no one can think of an evil God (not the contemporary religions anyway) there is left only one conclusion that there is no God at all, because his said influence and power is seen un-ushered, un-revealed in the world around us.
So the Ignorant Atheist goes by an elimination method in terms of Hyper stance on everything, to him God should be only one thing, pure good or nothing at all and if God is not seen exercising his dominion and control than it is because of the simplest explanation that he does not exist.
I actually feel sorry for such people, not out of pity but because of the fact that the Ignorant Atheists faces objection not only from the theist but from the Hard Headed Atheist as well whose core belief rests in science. While the ignorance stance is usually the easiest to explain (as there is nothing to explain) the holders of this view often are keen to disapprove God by arguments such as,
1. The old testament is filled with violence, why did god let it happen, worse why did god commanded it?
2. If God is all loving than why human beings suffer with war, hunger, poverty and natural disasters?
3. Everything was created by God including evil, so God must be evil?
4. Where was your God when the last Tsunami hit us?
5. Why does God watch and stand as a bystander and let all the horrific crimes in the world happen?
6. God is lame since a lot of people are fed up from him, why doesn’t he rain fire from heaven and consume us?


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http://johnadavid.wordpress.com/201...heist-naive-approach-to-atheism-a-hypothesis/

If our cells eventually do nothing more than seed another distant planet a billion years from now, then that still matters a little.

Yes. Stars are a fusion reaction. Lighter elements combined to form heavier elements + energy, which is radiated away from the star. Once the hydrogen is used up the star starts to fuse heavier and heavier elements, until the reaction can no longer be sustained. If the star is large enough it finally explodes as a super-nova scattering the heavier elements thought space. Virtually every atom in your body was created in a stellar explosion. Very cool shit.

The study of how life began is called abiogenesis. There are several theories, but it's still an unknown (and the details may always be).

From a guy who was raised Catholic and went to Catholic prep school and participated in a ton of religious groups and events, I know Im not atheist, I cannot believe that the complexity of life and the way nature evolves is all just a chemical accident. However, The Bible is a bunch of horseshit. I believe in something, call it God if you want, but I do believe we were created by some sort of intelligent "being" or "force", call it whatever. But its not some old man in the sky who watches you, and he is good and the Devil is evil. I conceive it more as a neutral being, and we are all just a big science experiment to him/her/it.

He/she/it doesnt care about us, just cares about what happens to us in the sense of observing how a scientific experiment behaves, more out of curiosity than a feeling of love or caring.

Doesn't that create a logical paradox for you? How were those intelligent beings or forces created? By the same logic it couldn't be by accident.

It's easier not to have to think too hard. Not being a jerk to Artie, I like him. But people are afraid to take that chance of being wrong, and getting denied at the pearly gates.

Ronnie James.... Poor bastard had stomach cancer a while. Ready Tony Iommis book. He talks about his strange eating habits due to his chronic heartburn and indigestion..

The bible was just a way to get control of the masses, so it was easy to rule them. Pretty much similar to what Obama is doing to you sheep today...

Is a libertarian pretty much an athiest Republican? Or is it somebody that is so Conservative that they come full circle and they're liberal without even realizing it?

Howard's so liberal that he comes back around and has alot of republican ideology, not sure how aware he is of this though. It's all about being free as possible while keeping the machine running.

It's always the same sleight of hand tricks by the religious; they start to pepper you with questions and since you are not a world leading physicist, if you do not have an immediate answer, they got you, God created it. This is ofcourse illogical. All these deflection questions, where they slyly shift their burden of proof back onto you have been answered and can be found on google. For example, Big Bang never posited that there was nothing before, the thoery is about how our current universe was created. There are theories as to what was before, example a singularity with no dimension of time yet, etc. That is the religious sleight of hand type of question. You answer that one? You cannot prove God does not exist, therefore he exists. No, illogical, you cannot prove a negative. And on and on until they hit one you may not know the answe too, because that is all they have, deflection from their own theory which has zero evidence. You religious people need to present your evidence that god exists. A study, controlled experiment, peer reviewed, etc. You dont have any? What we all believe is irrelevant, your theory is rejected, come back when you can present some evidence.

I consider myself a libertarian, and I have often described my politics as being that I am so conservative that I am liberal. I am for personal freedom as most republicans claim, but that means that gays have the same rights that I do which is a liberal stance. I am for low taxation, which means we can't afford military bases all over the world so most should be closed. It goes on and on so I think your view is spot on.

Republicans would do themselves well to walk away from the religious stances that hold them back with many Americans.

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
Napoleon Bonaparte

This is basically the God of the Gaps argument. Whatever can't be explained by science must be god. Of course this is a self defeating argument as with each scientific advancement god becomes less and less powerful.