"Mushroom cloud is on the way!" -muslims in New York

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49865

Yeah, good one. Anyone who even LOOKS at WND deserves absolutely NO TIME.
Through nothing more simple than a 2 sentence post, you have revealed the absolute lack of intelligence in your mind.
You might as well just euthanize yourself and get it over with. This world isn't real, sleep young one, let the blood flow and soon you'll be up in the Holy Comet.
Hmar

I contemplated this post- and left it. I was kind of hoping that no one would post a response to it.

Since you did- well, I guess I will add my two cents-


WND is like the chicken little of the Internet.

I much more fear political corruption- corporate corruption (tends to wipe out the 401k ya know) and the problem with immigration.

Are there whack jobs who have taken Islam to an extreme- yes, but the VAST majority of Muslims here in this country do not want to live under a repressive regime either. That is why they are here.

We must though, as a society, assimilate, accept and integrate- else we give refuge to these niche groups which fester like mosquito's in standing water- regardless of their political / religious affiliation.

I've never heard of WND. This article was linked on Drudge.
Is it untrue, then?

If it is true then here's an example of a fringe that's marching around in N.Y. rather than in the mideast as expected.

You yourself have reveled in shining a light on the fringe kooks who support illegal immigration as a way of conquering part of the country (look at your avatar!!). We know that's not all Mexicans, and we know that the mushroom cloud freaks aren't all muslims.

You've revealed an awful lot more with your post, by the way. I won't sink so low.

You're right, sorry about that I truly despise WND because of what they do to help perpetuate and create sheeple, and they always illicit a reaction out of me. As far as Drudge goes, that's a guy you really have to take precautions with. He's an idealogue who isn't above spinning a bullshit story and calling it news, if it fits his agenda. The scary thing is alot of people look the the drudge report for their news, including news outlets. Fuckin scary

You edited after I responded.
Umm, by the way, you know nothing about the Av, buddy. Can ya read, boy? Take a closer look....

I've been around. I totally get the av, and know who you're referring to- a kook.

Who had more protestors, this group of nuts or the O. & A. Army douchbags?

The Bible has as many amazing little trivialities if we take it literally-

While you are correct in fearing corporate greed and cultural suicide of immigration, note that in Europe, France and the UK as examples that they have tried very hard to "integrate" their muslim immigrants. Some may have fully "integrated" but as the riots last fall in France, the riots in Austrailia in Dec, and the whole cartoon debate throughout the world would suggest that many muslims would like to impose their laws on us.

One must think about why all those muslim countries are repressive as they are. Why have these people lived like this for so long? I have stated several times that different people CREATE different types of societies. Yes some muslims can come here and integrate, but not all. Once they get to the point that they are in a large minority those that don't "integrate" will start trying to change our society to suit them. In Canada there have been several attempts to impose Sharia law in some largely muslim towns ( I will provide a link for this next time I see a news story about it). It has been shot down for now, but they will keep trying.

France will forever dealing with these problems and they will only get worse. If one group is living on the fringe of society one must ask why? ALL answers should be considered before jumping to conclusions.

"The chants were in Arabic and translated by the Investigative Project on Terrorism, headed by Steve Emerson, a former reporter for CNN. "

Despite the source, this guy is legit.

France's prime reason for their Muslim unrest was and is unemployment. When people are busy making money and enjoying life with their families- they are content- when they are unemployed and have no hope for ever enjoying the benefits of economic advance- they become hopeless and are prone to such actions.

The cartoon debacle was primarily at the urging of the Imams and was predominately an uneducated reaction by a mass- I don't see how they relate to American Muslims. Very much culturally opposite.

Yes it does, but its not encoded law as it is in the Muslim world. The Quran is treated as the literal word of God as opposed to a commentary like most of the Bible is. Thus, no room for interpretation or transition with the times. That's a big reason why the Middle East hasn't pulled itself out of the Stone Age yet.

I see the two as being related. While working people are happy, those that are not working are not fitting into society. They may simply not have the wits or the will to fit in.

The fact that the Imams were able to whip us such a frenzy, that this type of ignorance and hatred is widespread enough to get people in the streets in so many countries is telling.

When someone is a minority they feel the need to "fit in". Once their numbers increase enough then fitting in no longer is a necessity and those that can't "fit in" start to remake their home enviroment in their new place. We simply don't have enough Muslims here for that to happen yet. Judging by the reactions in France, Australia, the UK and others I don't want to get to that point.

This goes not just for muslims but everyone. Once people are in a "comfortable" minority they start to exert influence to change society in their making. Look at the Demographics of most large northern cities as they changes from mostly white to mostly black. The change from 1%-20% black may have taken decades, but once that magical number (20% seems to be a world wide accepted number) the change from 20%-80% takes just a few years. The whites leaving felt that the neighborhood was no longer one of their making. South central LA is the same now except blacks are leaving and hispanics are moving in. One group replacing another.

Multiculturalism is a failure everywhere it has been tried. Nobody bothers to ask: Where does culture come from? Are people merely a product of their culture or is a culture largely a product of its people?

Some further insight on the riots in Paris.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20060420-085559-9571r.htm

Europe's 'Muslim' hoods
TODAY'S COLUMNIST
By Lorenzo Vidino
April 21, 2006


In November, as hoodlums set ablaze the poorest suburbs of Paris and other French cities, government officials and commentators argued over the nature of the riots.
The fact that most of the rioters were Muslims led many to see the events as part of a jihad waged by European Islamists against their own continent, lumping them with the bombings in Madrid and London or the assassination of Theo van Gogh. Others observed that most of the rioters — looking like anything but Islamists — were merely voicing their complaints over unemployment and discrimination, and that therefore the events were caused by socioeconomic factors only, similar to more recent violent protests around French universities. So, was the wave of anti-establishment violence purely criminal or was it part of a religiously motivated confrontation?
The answer is neither and both. While segregation and economic deprivation did play a key role in inflaming the rioters, the fact that the cry of "Allahu akbar" accompanied the nightly throw of Molotov cocktails is symbolic. Europe today is witnessing the growth of a disturbing new subculture that mixes violent urban behaviors, nihilism and Islamic fundamentalism. Many young, often European-born, Muslims feel a disturbingly intense sense of detachment from, if not sheer hatred for, their host societies and embrace various antagonistic messages. While some turn to Salafism, others adopt an indefinite blend of countercultures, ranging from hip-hop to Islamic fundamentalism. As a French official recently told me, many youngsters from the Muslim-majority ghettoes of France "dress like rappers, smoke marijuana and drink alcohol, yet they watch jihadi videos and have pictures of [Osama] bin Laden on the display of their expensive cell phones." Any individual that attacks mainstream society becomes a hero, be it Abu Musab Zarqawi or the late American rapper Tupac Shakur.
While the phenomenon affects only a minority of European Muslims, its dimensions and repercussions are still more than noteworthy. The French witnessed another headline-making example of this violent hybrid subculture in February, when a gang of mostly Muslim youngsters kidnapped, tortured and killed a young Parisian Jew, Ilan Halimi. The perpetrators have been described by authorities as a ragtag gang of petty criminals with no involvement with Islamic fundamentalism. Yet, they enjoyed re-enacting on Mr. Halimi some of the barbarities they had seen in jihadi videos and recited Koranic verses in phone calls with Mr. Halimi's parents.
In London, city officials are worried about the growth of an extremely violent gang, commonly known as the Muslim Boys. Operating in the southern areas of the British capital, the gang is composed of several hundred members and is active in criminal activities ranging from robberies to drug trafficking. The members of the gang are mostly British-born black youngsters originally from the Caribbean or Africa who converted to Islam in British penitentiaries and use their newfound faith as a bonding element.
Their interpretation of Islam is completely perverted. The gang members do not respect the most basic tenets of Islam, and their appearance and slang more closely resemble that of American urban culture than that of practicing Muslims. Tellingly, a gang member admitted to a reporter from the Evening Standard: "I pray twice a day: before I do crime and after. I ask Allah for a blessing when I'm out on the streets. Afterwards, I apologize to Allah for what I done [sic]." The gang is also involved in "forced conversions," compelling young black youth at gunpoint to convert to Islam and join them. Two years ago they executed a 24-year-old, Adrian Marriott, for refusing to convert.
Mainstream British Muslim leaders have distanced themselves from the Muslim Boys, describing them as "criminals masquerading as Muslims." But "pure" Islamic fundamentalists would also challenge the motivations behind the religious character of the gang, as their conversion seems to be dictated more by the desire to work against mainstream society than the desire to express a sincere devotion to Islam.
Moreover, episodes of Muslim violence against native Europeans can be seen with an increasing frequency in most large cities throughout Europe. A recent Swedish study analyzed the reasons behind the surge in muggings of native Swedish teenagers perpetrated by their peers of immigrant descent in the cities of Malmo and Stockholm (another Swedish study revealed that nine out of 10 muggings are perpetrated by Muslims). Most of the interviewees admitted that their attacks were generally not motivated by money, but rather, by their desire to humiliate Swedes. One teenager tellingly said, "When we are in the city and robbing we are waging a war, waging a war against the Swedes."
Given this level of disaffection with mainstream society affecting large numbers of European Muslims, it should surprise no one that the strongly anti-Western message of radical Islam finds fertile ground with this group. Very few European Muslims embrace Islamist ideology completely and even fewer take the further step of becoming terrorists. Yet, a larger number express a discomforting sympathy for its message, creating a serious challenge to the social cohesion of the continent.

Lorenzo Vidino is a senior terrorism analyst at the Investigative Project and author of "Al Qaeda in Europe: The New BattlegroundofInternational Jihad."

This is not a problem which was created overnight, nor will it be solved overnight. This is something which has been brewing for the better part of 2 centuries. European colonialism and Western involvement in the politics of the region didn't help either.
The modern day incarnation of this ongoing process is manifested through a severe lack of "belonging" among most Muslims in Europe.
Here in the United States and Canada, it is a completely different story. While it's true that some Muslim communities want to institute a form of Sharia law to deal with their own affairs, it's also true that the Candian Laws superceed any conflicting Shaira decision. Thus, a civil dispute like divorce would be handled by a Muslim magistrate as opposed to the Candian Family Courts, or a lawsuit among Muslims would be handled by a Sharia court as opposed to a Civil court, etc. This is no different than Mormons handling their own affairs, yet in today's culture, of course Muslims are different, they want to take over, etc.
Meanwhile, while some alarmists would have you believing this rubbish, very few have taken note that we are in fact ebing invaded, not by some guy in a turban, but rather a guy in a sweaty bandanna, who thinks that a little less than half of the US and a chunk of Canada is his ancestral home.
Another government has declared war on the US, although not s single shot has been fired. Many sympathizers live among us who will work hard to keep this invasion secret from the public, but make no mistake, it's happening. Just ask Vicente Fox, if you get him drunk enough one night, he'll tell you about a Mexican's birthright.

Correct thats the inherent problem with islam... the words in it are immutable... not allowed to change or reinterpreted... the only way changes occur is with subjects that are not in the Quran... such as the internet or AIDS and birth control for protection for example...

I won't lie and say that no Islamoterrorist wants to to do that, because there are a few that do. However, while a hypothetical attack is well and good to think about, let's not forget the outright attack on oil soil and land that's occuring right now.

CRAZYTREE, you have never once answered a single question directed at you. I think by now you should be ashamed enough, since you've shown yourself to be weak and gutless. Apparently your motivations are too sinister to post here.
Even though the government of Mexico passively advocates emigration into America, and believes that the SW US belongs to MEXICO, you still see no evidence. That's good, shill, keep on throwing up smoke.
At least Arabs tell you they want to destroy you. Mexicans are already on their way to doing it but you don't want anyone to see it, do you?

How did you know I work out, by the way?

No. The onus is on you to prove me wrong. It's been cited before many times in this forum. Why don't you try to rebut me with something more than a sentence or 2 about some fictitious accusation against me, traitor?

Typical lazy mexican