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Nearly Half Of Americans Don't Pay Income Taxes

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VacateTheWord, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. VacateTheWord Full Member

    While the Left in this country wants everyone fixated on the top tax bracket and why they should pay their "fair share," what is not being discussed is the abhorrent reality that almost half of Americans do not pay any income taxes at all.

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    http://blog.heritage.org/2012/02/19...-half-of-all-americans-dont-pay-income-taxes/

    So let's drop the 99% garbage and let's start focusing on the 49.5% of the parasites in this country and figure out how they can, in Obama's words, have some "skin in the game."
  2. walygatr Full Member

    Walmart would like to thank the Federal Gov for the EIC tax credit. Sales of flat screen tv's are through the roof!
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  3. mr wrong Full Member

    100% of my daughter's first grade class doesn't either. What's your point?
    R.U. Stupid and NoName like this.
  4. Tomofnnh Full Member

  5. BillyfrSPhilly Full Member

    Life is unfair . Look how you were only given half a brain !
    R.U. Stupid and tamboozie like this.
  6. zimmie Full Member

    freeloaders
  7. blargy

    blargy SFN Gold Supporter

    2 years ago it was 47% (looking at 2007 numbers).


    In before "heritage printed it so if I say that my lack of introducing a counterpoint won't be noticed by others on the left"
  8. TorontoAtHome

    TorontoAtHome
    SFN Staff

    All those unemployed freeloaders!

    Isn't the poverty line about 15% or 16% right now? Where is the "under employed" line?...Vacate really has a broken view to include all these people in the stats.

    Here's the numbers I found....

    Under the Poverty Line: 46.2 million in 2010 - 15.1%

    The "Near Poor" combined with the above brings the total to about 100 million people at or slightly above poverty.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/u...in-poverty-but-struggling.html?pagewanted=all

    "All told, that places 100 million people — one in three Americans — either in poverty or in the fretful zone just above it."

    SO...1 in 3 people in the US is on the verge of poverty or in poverty. Lazy fuckers should get off their asses and pay some fucking tax! Right Vacate?
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  9. blargy

    blargy SFN Gold Supporter

    Bringing up the poverty line is actually moving the goalposts. Citizens in this country don't have any control over how much a person at the poverty line works, how hard they work, if they elect to get a 2nd job etc.
    Citizens also don't determine how a person at the poverty line chooses to spend their money, nor should we.

    By ignoring the responsibility that so many have to pay some percentage of their income towards taxes, we acknowledge that they have no responsibility toward contributing to a society we all live in. Additionally we acknowledge that they are unable to change their situation through their actions, which I can't believe anyone agrees with.
  10. NickNuke Full Member

    Yes, when these so called poor have cars, electronics, new clothes, cell phones and everything else that traditionally "poor"people didn't have, including tribes of illegitimate children. Enough is enough. It's economically unsustainable, and even a retard can see this. Just look at Europe for our future if we don't stop this entitlement madness.
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  11. TorontoAtHome

    TorontoAtHome
    SFN Staff

    Your argument is that every one of these people have big screen TV's?...bullshit.
  12. VacateTheWord Full Member

    So going by your logic, in the late '60s first graders were working full time after school.

    Good grief.
  13. VacateTheWord Full Member

    Yes.

    And I'm not talking about a big amount. Michele Bachmann spoke about this all the time and I wish one of the remaining GOP candidates would pick up the torch. My point is this - we are almost to a point in this country where the minority is shouldering the vast majority of the tax burden and that just isn't right. So let's have everyone pay something - even if it's a measly $100 for the year. Just as Obama says, everyone should have "skin in the game." Half of the people in this country should not be subsidizing the other half.
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  14. VacateTheWord Full Member

    Well said.

    And Obama will be running for a second term with all sorts of promises of "free" stuff for that 49.5% who do not contribute to our society - he'll just need to figure out how to peel off another 1% and he'll win.
  15. zimmie Full Member

    poor choices make poor people...this would apply to 75% of those people living in poverty......last time I looked, you're provided a free education through high school, they'll even feed you two meals a day while attending, the gubment will loan you money to go to college, you're given opportunities to raise yourself up from poverty, if you choose not to take advantage of them, you deserve to live in squalor....

    Maryland couldn't balance its budget last year, so the state tried to close the shortfall by fleecing the wealthy. Politicians in Annapolis created a millionaire tax bracket, raising the top marginal income-tax rate to 6.25%. And because cities such as Baltimore and Bethesda also impose income taxes, the state-local tax rate can go as high as 9.45%. Governor Martin O'Malley, a dedicated class warrior, declared that these richest 0.3% of filers were "willing and able to pay their fair share." The Baltimore Sun predicted the rich would "grin and bear it."
    One year later, nobody's grinning. One-third of the millionaires have disappeared from Maryland tax rolls. In 2008 roughly 3,000 million-dollar income tax returns were filed by the end of April. This year there were 2,000, which the state comptroller's office concedes is a "substantial decline." On those missing returns, the government collects 6.25% of nothing. Instead of the state coffers gaining the extra $106 million the politicians predicted, millionaires paid $100 million less in taxes than they did last year -- even at higher rates.
  16. TorontoAtHome

    TorontoAtHome
    SFN Staff

    They did pay taxes. Every single thing they bought had taxes in it. They did support the government by paying those taxes. How many states have no tax?...For every person that even has a measly job they still pay income tax.

    The issue I have with your argument is that it is not 50% of your population that needs to participate. It is only about 20% that lives above poverty. Do you really think that someone who can barley afford food has an extra$100 to give to the government? even though they have been paying tax on the food they COULD buy? The gas they need to get to the shitty job?

    To say that these people have paid no tax is false and misleading. Make your argument with actual facts and data and then people might be more inclined to having a discussion on what to do to solve the problem.Throwing around falsehoods just makes you look ignorant and incompetent.
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  17. NickNuke Full Member

    That's not what I said. Do you actually fucking think people "starve" in the United States? In any other country, poor people are hungry, live in squalor. Go to Mexico City and you'll see what I mean. That's poor. The majority of our so called "poor" would be considered quite well off in many third world nations. As a matter of fact, most poor people today lived much better than I did growing up. We had no car, one TV, I lived in a tiny shithole apt with 5 people that had no heat most of the winter, no A/C, and my old man worked 12 hours a day at a shitty job. We had no family here. I'm so fucking tired of the complaining.
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  18. NickNuke Full Member

    Gas to get to the job.... Take the bus. Take the train. A car? That's for people with disposable income, not poor people.
  19. TorontoAtHome

    TorontoAtHome
    SFN Staff

    Stop complaining then. Go to a shelter and volunteer. See what the reality of the situation is.

    I agree that people in Africa that live in mud huts and are starving would look at these people and envy them...What do you think we should do then to help THOSE people?
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  20. zimmie Full Member

    no sales tax in Delaware...they should move there..that $100 could come in handy at Best Buy....
  21. TorontoAtHome

    TorontoAtHome
    SFN Staff

    I was watching the TV show "Undercover Boss" last night. I saw a clip where some manager was getting schooled by the CEO of Checkers/Rallys and it made me want to see the rest of the story.

    One of the women that was working there was making $7 an hour after working there for 7 years. She is trying to do all the right things you are talking about but in order to get to the secure job she has she needs to drive. Her car is about to die. If it does she will have to take a bus that will take her hours to get back and forth to work everyday. If that happens she needs to pay someone to look after her kids...so now what is she supposed to do? She can't afford to pay for someone to look after her kids with the $7 an hour she makes...?...This is the same story for millions of people now in the US...

    What's the answer?
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  22. BillyfrSPhilly Full Member


    Nor does anyone have control over the weather you bumbling imbecile ! Sorry but you will never have control over society unless you have a dictatorship. You know how well that works !
  23. BillyfrSPhilly Full Member

    But you live in Virginia !


    Howling at the moon again !
  24. walygatr Full Member

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
  25. blargy

    blargy SFN Gold Supporter

    Then how is it that many who work for minimum wage can support children and still send remittances to their families in countries like Mexico? This is really the fatal flaw in the 'poverty line' argument. (which you never really addressed in my post above).

    I am not responsible for what brought her to that point in her life. I don't know what she is spending money on vs. what she could further do to make more money. I can't suggest what she should do without actually walking in her shoes; but I can tell you that I would never make the choices she made to have gotten there in the first place.

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