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Obama healthcare law could sharply worsen deficits: study

Discussion in 'Politics' started by blargy, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. jtheweirdo Full Member

    Never said it was something hard to understand, idiot. I was simply pointing out that the thing you were bitching about medicare for is the industry norm. How many people are enrolled in medicare verse any private insurance company? Larger groups pay even less than smaller ones. Tough concept, I know.
  2. blargy

    blargy SFN Gold Supporter

    No, you still don't get it I see. Insurance groups can negotiate with doctors/hospitals/providers. Medicare pays a fixed amount which congress needs to intervene and raise every year. Even after intervention, only a limited amount of providers accept a limited amount of patients which then need to be cut in with other insured or uninsured persons to make up for paltry sums that medicare pays.
    On their own, these providers would never agree to these fees if everyone paid the same as medicare because there wouldn't be any way to get the subsidization back, so everyone's fees would go up.

    Do you get it now?
  3. jtheweirdo Full Member

    Yes, I get that you want to apply certain principles on one side here but ignore them on the other side.
  4. blargy

    blargy SFN Gold Supporter

    Just basic economics that the government distorts...

    Don't go away mad, just go away...
  5. jtheweirdo Full Member

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  6. 1vegasgirl Full Member

    Less care, more money. Care will be rationed in years to come if this is not overturned. Talk to your doctor. Visit a Veteran's Affairs office or hospital to see how government care works and the waiting these people have.
  7. jtheweirdo Full Member

    Thanks for stopping by to share today's right-wing talking point.
  8. zimmie Full Member

    I thought I read somewhere that fines for not buying insurance could be as low as $90 up to a maximum of $950...sounds like a good deal...we're hiring all those IRS agents to investigate whether someone owes a few hundred dollars?...sure doesn't sound cost effective to me
  9. blargy

    blargy SFN Gold Supporter

    So then someone who didn't want to spend $4000 on a single plan could just pay $90 and get emergency care? Wow, just wow. Obamacare is well thought out.
  10. dogcow Full Member

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  11. walygatr Full Member

    I hear they're going to give away a free audit with every $90 citation.
  12. blargy

    blargy SFN Gold Supporter

    Really? Because I heard it was a $90 visa check card.
  13. 1vegasgirl Full Member

    Are you the registered Republican as you said a while ago??? Another lie.
  14. jtheweirdo Full Member

    Not a lie at all. Why would I need to lie to people I don't know and will never meet? How pathetic can you get?

    I registered republican when I first registered to vote at 18 and have never changed it. I still believe in the ideals that lead me to register republican, unfortunately the party does not.
  15. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    I was a democrat from a long line of democrats. I went republican when democrats went anti-gun and pro-NAFTA.

    It was Bubba. Now that was a love/hate deal but the hate won. I still love that he had monica on her knees and blew a big load all over her, he'll always be my hero for that. :sneaky:
  16. Chrisfromvegas Full Member

    Me too. But I changed my party affiliation about 2005 (I think) It was the Grover Norquist takeover that did it. Any party without the freedom to do the right thing because of a stupid pledge doesn't deserve my vote. This country was founded on freedom, not pledges.
  17. BillyfrSPhilly Full Member


    Yeah well only a whore like you would care !
  18. R.U. Stupid Full Member

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