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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Reverend Tyler, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. Reverend Tyler Full Member

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/trayvon-martin-911-audio-_n_1354909.html?ref=trayvon-martin

    The link has clips to all the 911 calls. You hear the murderer George Zimmerman say the kid looks suspicious. Then he chases after the kid. You hear another 911 call where you can hear Trayvon in the background screaming for help over and over again....Then a gunshot that killed him. The police apparently believe that running away and screaming for help is good enough to accept Zimmerman's claim that he acted in self defense. He chased after the kid, the kid is screaming for help...and somehow this compelled Zimmerman to think he was acting in self defense? This is a clear cut case of cold blooded murder, and Zimmerman walks a free man. Seriously, what the fuck???
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  2. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    Keep an eye on the story, I'm sure the guy will be charged.
  3. Reverend Tyler Full Member

    I sure hope so, but if they do it will be too public outrage pressure. It's scary that without media attention this guy would have no consequences for his actions. As of yet, he still hasn't been charged. The cops took his story at face value and also didn't do a tox screen for drugs or alcohol either.
  4. Timmy Full Member

    They guy basically hunted the kid down and killed him.

    THis happend in Feb and they just got around to releaseing the 911 calls??
  5. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    Someone is advocating for him, that is all it takes. If no one stands for you, you are alone, he has no voice anymore. If the 911 dispatcher told this guy they didn't want him chasing the kid and there was no mention of that in police reports, something is very wrong but we need the entire story. There is a very, very small existence of circumstance where you can chase someone down, shoot them dead and get away with it.
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  6. VacateTheWord Full Member

    If you really think this kind of stuff only happens in the "Deep South" then you are naive.
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  7. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    George Zimmerman’s father sent a letter to the Orlando Sentinel Thursday, saying his son did not instigate the conflict that left 17-year-old Trayvon Martin dead.

    “At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon,” the letter from Robert Zimmerman said, “everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media.”

    The conflict began after George Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person wearing a hoodie and walking slowly in the rain. George Zimmerman disobeyed law enforcement orders to stop following Martin and ultimately shot the unarmed teenager in the chest with a 9 mm handgun, killing him.

    Robert Zimmerman said his son is Hispanic and not racist. ”He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever …,” the letter to the Orlando Sentinel says. “The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth.”
  8. VacateTheWord Full Member

    Google "blue shield" - it is not a Southern thing. As for your other attacks on Americans in the South - that is just a Leftist stereotype.
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  9. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    Well the fact of the matter is whites are shot, raped and assaulted by blacks in far greater numbers than white on black crime.

    Are you kidding me with this stereo-type fucking bullshit?
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  10. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    Furthermore, this particular case involves a hispanic male and a black male.
  11. Timmy Full Member

    The case involes a teenager being shot to death in the street for no reason. And law enforcemnt is doing shit about it. Thats the story.

    Makes you think the lack of reaction by the locals is BECAUSE of the kids race.
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  12. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    That is your OPINION Timmy, not the facts. You don't know the facts because the police have not released the full details. Zimerman is hispanic, the teenager shot was black.
  13. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    Shocking that anything could have fooled such an intelligent and articulate asshole like yourself. :rolleyes:

    The South is also home to the majority of Black people in this country, so watch yo fucking mouth.
  14. Timmy Full Member

    Lets not forget about a little thing called history.

    Facts show some wanna be cop profiling a young black teen walking back from the store with some skiddles. He chases after the kid even though the 911 dispather tells him not to. You hear the kid screaming and then bang his dead in the street.
  15. NC-Stern-Mark Full Member

    Read the story, you are not quoting any FACTS.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...ing-zimmerman-letter-20120315,0,1716605.story
  16. Timmy Full Member

    O gee. A story about what the shooters dad says. Now thats a fact filled bonanza.
  17. Jellyfishlips Full Member

    Shocker. Who would have guessed.

    [IMG]
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  18. Reverend Tyler Full Member

    The dad is full of shit...he says right on the tape he is going after the kid. Also dont think that a hispanic person can't be racist against blacks. That being said, racist or not, he is a murderer.
  19. Jellyfishlips Full Member

    Listening to that boy call for help tore my heart out. Zimmerman sounded extremely paranoid. I feel like he was trying to justify his role as the community watch person, which he appointed himself to. Apparently the neighbors didn't want him in that position. They'd asked the homeowners association to remove him. My guess is that he was out hunting for a kill to look like a hero. The 911 call was just covering his ass for what he was about to do - premeditated murder.
  20. Luther Full Member

    It is a stereotype firmly based in truth. The level of violent crime and tolerance of violent crime in the South is higher than in the North.



    http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/712842.html

    The American South has long been more violent than the North. Colorful descriptions of duels, feuds, bushwhackings, and lynchings feature prominently in visitors’ accounts, newspaper articles, and autobiographies from the eighteenth century onward. Statistics bear out these impressions. For example, over the period 1865–1915, the homicide rate in the South was ten times the current rate for the whole United States, and twice the rate in our most violent cities. Modern homicide statistics tell the same story.
  21. Luther Full Member

    Nisbett and Cohen support their hypothesis with an impressive range of evidence. Let’s start with statistical patterns of violence. In the rural and small-town South, murder rates are elevated for arguments among friends and acquaintances, but not for killings committed in the course of other felonies. In other words, in the South men are more likely than Northerners to kill an acquaintance when an argument breaks out in a bar, but they are no more likely to kill the guy behind the counter when they knock off a liquor store. Thus, Southerners seem to be more violent than other Americans only in situations that involve personal honor. Competing hypotheses don’t do so well: neither white per-capita income nor hot climate nor history of slavery explain this variation in homicide.
    Differences in what people say about violence also support the “culture of honor” hypothesis. For example, Nisbett and Cohen asked people to read vignettes in which a man’s honor was challenged—sometimes trivially (for example, by insults to his wife), and in other cases seriously (for example, by stealing his wife). Southern respondents were more likely than Northerners to say that violent responses were justified in all cases, and that one would “not be much of a man” unless he responded violently to insults. In the case of more serious affronts, southern respondents were almost twice as likely to say that shooting the perpetrator was justified.
    Interestingly, this difference in behavior is not just talk; it can also be observed under the controlled conditions of the psychology laboratory. Working at the University of Michigan, Nisbett and Cohen recruited participants from northern and southern backgrounds, ostensibly to participate in an experiment on perception. As part of the procedure, an experimenter’s confederate bumped some participants and muttered “Asshole!” at them. This insult had very different effects on southern and northern participants, as revealed by the next part of the experiment. Sometime after being bumped, participants encountered another confederate walking toward them down the middle of a narrow hall, setting up a little game of chicken. This confederate, a six-foot, three-inch, 250-pound linebacker on the UM football squad, was much bigger and stronger than any participant, and had been instructed to keep walking until either the participant stepped aside and let him pass or a collision was immanent. Northerners stepped aside when the confederate was six feet away, whether or not they had been insulted. Southerners who had not been insulted stepped aside when they were nine feet away from the confederate, while previously insulted Southerners continued walking until they were just three feet away. Polite, but prepared to be violent, uninsulted Southerners take more care, presumably because they attribute a sense of honor to the football player and are careful not to test it. When their own honor is challenged, however, they are willing to challenge someone at considerable risk to their own safety. These behavioral differences have physiological correlates. In a similar confederate-insulter experiment, Nisbett and Cohen measured levels of two hormones, cortisol and testosterone, in participants before and after they had been insulted. Physiologists know that cortisol levels increase in response to stress, and testosterone levels rise in preparation for violence. Insulted Southerners showed much bigger jumps in cortisol and testosterone than insulted Northerners.

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